Mechanical Broadfork & Electric Power Harrow | Tools You've Never Seen Before
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- Check out these cool new tools from Curley's Ag (Paperpot Planter USA). Brent Heironimus brought them to my farm to let me try them out.
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My 16" broadfork really brings the heavy clay up, and does really tear up the bed. What I notice most is it doesn't kill the earthworms like my tiller does. For me I can do a 50ft row in 25 minutes, but 4 rows a day is plenty if I want to be able to get out of bed the next day. This machine doesn't go as deep but you can go all day if you want. Also, my broadfork doesn't need fuel and parks itself in a much smaller footprint in my shed. I'm a huge broadfork fan, but for me a machine is not needed unless you do multiple farms. Great looking tools, both of them. Thanks for the video!
Good to see other guy's take on an older view on how things are done.
The power broard fork is a must for new ground I think. As time goes on its usefulness is diminished HOWEVER if I had a need in the start up then I could hire it out after the fact. I might use it a second or third time only if it was 'pushing' an air space rather than, as it seems to do, also pull up deep down debris! This IS a good bit of kit. I might consider it if I were in a start up Co op. Then, through ties with others either sell the unit on or rent it out.
Thank you.
@@curlysag I get it now. It's a mean beast with a soft heart lol.
I did wonder. I remember it being said that it was adjustable.
I'm in the UK. Nothing like that here at all. I think I could see a new business getting one to start a season ahead of the game with deep rooting plants.
I discussed this very situation on the Charles Dowding Facebook page and I stipulated that although one COULD just cover new ground with card and compost, wait a season and plant, getting poor to good results with deep rooters like carrots and parsnips, one could bypass the first few batches with a broad fork.
Thanks for the idea! It took me 2 weeks on AutoCad to figure out how to build one for my BCS, two weeks to jet/machine the parts and buid it and another month to re-fab and make it work properly. if only you could have taken the cover off for a bit... I should have bought one! What a great idea!
Frm Bangalore India. Inspired and started farming in our lands thanks to ur videos..... Info u ppl provide..
Nice to see some different tool options!
You're comment about farming on a slope made me want to look for a vid on that as well.
Two Pros with expert honest advice.
Really cool you're demo'ing new tools and giving back solid information and recommendations. It's also great that there is now a competitor in the market, though I'd hoped it would drive costs down, not up LOL. The EcoHarrow looks awesome and with a couple of slight improvements could easily make it's way into my tool shed.
@@curlysag I totally get that, again, I'm happy to see the competition in the market. You that broadfork attachment is awesome, I can see huge benefit in it's use, esp if coop's bought them for rental to multiple farmers.
The Ecoharrow seems a lot nicer than the tilther. I actually use a old school push mower to remove dense greens.
These tools are pretty darn cool. I love my meadow creature broadfork too much to let a machine do it for me though during regular bed maintenance, however the power fork would be great for breaking new ground. The harrow could be good improvement on the tilther, seems more powerful and the blade depth being adjustable is nice.
I just found your channel. I love it. I am starting my market farm this year and I am already on my way. I wasn’t going to do eggs but you have talked me into it. Instead of a duck I think I am going to get a pair of peacocks.
One thing I wanted to mention that I am also about to order is Bees. We all love Honey here in Alabama for sure but they will also help the garden. I am thinking they will be for sure worth the investment. I will be doing markets as well as restaurants so I am also incorporating just a few cut flowers. I saw on a channel the benefits of the flowers and bees and them both bringing in some income. Anyway, I know this was a little off subject of the video, sorry about that. I love the channel! Thanks for all the content! :)
we are on our first year in the UK too
If you aren't right next to others you might want to get some guineas to keep down the tick population! They make a lot of noise though and unless you endear them to you some may leave. But you can't beat them for flea and tick control.
If perhaps a local coop owns these and their members could rent them for occasional use, it could be more affordable for all involved.
I agree with Josh about how much deeper it does work bring up clay, etc. It might take a lot of tweaking, fine tuning to get it adjusted to your liking and needs. As is, possibly only use this machinery 1-2 times a year for deep aeration. These gadgets do more twisting and churning soil disturbance to the soil than a manual broad fork or thilther. They would take you a little farther away from no-till.
Great information for us first timers starting out this year!
Just take a Gramegna reciprocating spader and replace the spades with cut off broad fork tines(with holes drilled in each tine that match the spade holes)... You can either use the steel tracks Joel sells at Earthtools or the dual 19 inch steel wheels to try and lower the ground speed. After a couple passes you could put on longer blades and go deeper... you may be even able to get down to double dug-- who knows. Lowering the PTO speed to a "human pace"(1/4 RPM?) would help too... Just need to adapt a PTO extension to a gear reducer box that is rated at the max HP of the PTO... not impossible. If this was shared by a cooperative of growers it would be worth the mods(and the holy crap $2500 for the spader) for use by each grower every other year or so.
That harrow is nice! Like butta!
Love this vid 👍 love the over view of the tools from 🇳🇿🇳🇿🇳🇿
Thx for your videos... learning a lot from them... Currently looking for land/home to start a homestead near my parents north of Greensboro North Carolina... trying to learn as much as possible before we get started...
Richard Benfield hey Richard, I’m not far from you. I’m just south of Burlington area, bout 20 miles from Greensboro. I’m farming on 20 acres right now and am in my 3rd year. There are some really good farms in this area to learn from. Your welcome to come visit me sometime also and I’ll help ya anyway I can
@@1982MCI That would be great! I may just take you up on that! Hoping to be moved over there about April.. right now my family is living just south of Nashville, TN. You can email me if you want. first name dot last name dot 72 at gmail... let me know once you get the email and I will edit it out of the comment.
As always- great interview and demo!
So bring in bunnys in a long run cage first
TIP
Double frame side of cage
So u can slide up sides to extend run use pins or bolt
Weld wire to nut and bolt so can not lose it
Than use the machine
The power broadfork seems to be more akin to a "gentler" power spader than a real broadfork. Perhaps the adjustments he mentioned can be used to tame it a bit and leave the clay subsoil where it belongs?
Cool tool
Those are some awesome tools
I can see that combining the harrow with a follow up of chicken tractor would be very useful.
Good video 👍🏻
Use your greens harvester and remove the crop first so your removing it prior to tillage n cleaning the trash after will be easier, feed the trash to chickens
Yeah, we actually talked about doing that before the harrow, but Brent wanted to see how it would do without that step.
Does using a Broad fork. Really that much difference in crop yields and building soil
Over other legacy ways?
Is it really worth it to do it?
I want an 8 row broadfork for my corn and soybeans! :-)
Cool tools....id like to see that fork in some real hard ground.
Yes, we have lots of ROCKS...all sizes...all over our land. Would love to see that big machine broad forking compact clay soil with rocks.
this is awesome
5:27 gotta have one
no offense to them but mechanical broadfork isn't really necessary - they sell a ripper/subsoiler for the BCS.
I am a newbie, what is BCS? Thanks.
@@mandiegarrett1706a tractor brand
Clever,
that Harrow!!!!!
sounds like this would realy do a number on rocky/gravely type of soil then? break it up so you could sift the rock an gravel out and mix in manure/compost,,cool i gotta check this out
Why isn’t this In stores, this should be a real product for garden use
Don't you compact the soil when its wet when using the mechanical broadfork?
Nice video...
may I imitate your garden example? I am from Indonesia
Not dirt, but soil my Texan friends 🤙🏽
I don’t see that drill powered harrows anywhere
Do a video with bear creek out of mi
Can you use your chickens to eat up the left over baby greens?
You don't want to let your chickens into the garden because of food safety reasons. You can remove the greens and feed them to the chickens though.
This is exactly why I love my tractor, my 3pt tiller, and other attachments. Time is money josh and I can cover much more ground per hour than any of the no till guys can cover by day.
I’m not gonna try and change anyone’s minds cause these no till groups are cult like but farming in my family goes back to the mid 1800’s and it’s a proven formula. Sure, I kill more worms than no till guys but they still kill them also and my thoughts are killing is killing and if we are so worried about killing worms then none of us should ever stick anything in the ground!! If you prepare your soil correctly, add organic materials back into your soil on a continuous basis, you are going to have plenty of worms. There are always worm eggs in the soil that will not be harmed and will hatch. Many worms that get cut in half actually will heal and continue on with a happy worm life.
In farming, time is money my friend. If im farming 10-20 acres, I don’t have time to spend hand dressing 600’ rows all day. If I did then I’m to worn out to plant the seed and harvest or whatever else I needed to do that day.
I’m sorry I disagree with you guys but in my opinion, this whole market has been developed and driven to promote overpriced tools and equipment for the smaller farmer. I believe much of it is propaganda that is government driven and those guys are pros at getting a large percentage of folks to buy in to their hype.
Besides having a family farm that goes back to the mid 1800’s, my wife’s uncle just retired a few years ago from auburn university in Alabama. He was a professor there for 45 years and this along with catfish farming were the two areas he spent his entire career researching and studying year after year after year. His opinion is much of what mine above is built on. If you give back to nature what you take from her then we will continue to be able to do this a million years from now with no loss of species at all barring the complete destruction of earth from our other stupid activities.
We keep promoting new small farm production. But how do we expect new farmers and young farmers to keep this culture alive when we say you have to use these tools and we make them triple the cost at least of what a 1950 Ford 8n with a tiller, cultivator, planter, etc will cost and can be done so much more efficiently in other proven ways.
Like I said in the beginning josh, I’m not trying to change anyone’s methods or opinions. They have already set their minds on what they believe for whatever reason and so be it. But just because I don’t agree with your ground prep methods, we still are accomplishing the same thing in the end. Good, quality food that we can not get at the grocery anymore and we all need to continue to work towards that goal more than anything but I’ve got to keep costs down as much as possible cause no matter how good that lettuce is, folks just aren’t gonna pay $5 at the farm if they can get it a mile down the road at food lion for $.89. Folks don’t understand how much better it is when they dump 20 other items on it then drown it with thousand island dressing, lol. But take them out in the field, cut several different greens and stick it straight in your mouth and the difference is night and day!!!! I often walk thru the field and pick and eat because the flavors are so incredibly different than anything we’ve been brainwashed into thinking is good for us from the grocery.
Anyways, I’ll jump off my soapbox now. I still love your videos brother and love what you bring to us and I learn something from everyone of them in one form or another so don’t change, keep them coming please. Planting season is almost here Brother, only a few more cold snaps to go and we will all be back out in the dirt!!
Stay safe man!
You not only kill more earthworms, as you say, but I'd bet a lot of your topsoil is washed away, and you have a lot less permeability. Sure your way is the cat's meow, but traditional farming also turns the soil into a lifeless catalyst for petroleum ferts and nutes. IOW, you are part of the problem. Try telling Gabe Brown and Joel Salatin that your method is better.
I have seen a huge surge of new ideas promoting expensive specialized equipment and techniques flooding the internet over the last 10 years. All this is aimed at a select generation of passionate, well meaning, and very hard working people. I also have witnessed that some of these ideas are meant only to sell in order to fill/ sell tickets at conferences, sell new equipment, and sell political verbiage. In 10 years or so much of this will change to something else. A whole new group of people will buy the ideas and scorn our current thinking. Sad but true. Some of the new stuff is excellent and has solid basis for immediate use. Others not so much.
Acres U.S.A. magazine is an interesting read if you're seen it. It kind of splits the difference between the conventional farmer like my grandfather was and the little 3 acre organic market gardener I try to be. One thing I've learned is there is way more ways to skin a cat then only one way. Some might be quicker, some might more efficient. Two people arguing can at times both be right, just stubborn. Trying different things is the best way to make progress. I learn just as much from failure as I do from success. You can do the same thing 10 different ways and all 10 can have a successful outcome. Some people will argue that, but it's how we learn and make progress.
proven formula since 1800's yeah using same tractors huh?
What would be the difference or benefit of a broad fork over a rototiller?
It's for no till applications. Many people don't like to kill all their earthworms and destroy the soil structure with a tiller.
benifits of no till:
improved soil biology = improved nutrition generation for plants
improved soil biology = more organic matter = increased water holding capacity of soils
When you till you are bringing up weed seeds with each turn. Every year new weeds. Plus you cause carbon to leave the soil and enter the air causing more harm than cow farts. Leave the carbon in the soil where it should be. Also, you bring up pathogens, disease, with each turn. Your best bet is to put several inches of wood based compost, rake it, and put a couple of inches of nutritious compost (worm castings-which you can buy by the ton if you need to or a manure based compost that is well done). Rake it, and if direct seeding, roll it to make a compact bed to seed or plant directly in without rolling. Adding compost this way will keep the weed seeds underground along with pathogens. Use wood chips between the beds and as high as the beds are. The wood chips help with mycorrhizae developement and keep your rows dry and clean.
@Templar Educate yourself rather than make a blanket statement like that. Then come back and explain yourself. You are being lazy.
These aren’t available anymore??
but you still have the weight of the machine compacting the soil on the edges
Bcs should have wheel extensions so you can sraddle the bed imo
Might compress it some but i realllly doubt it would be compacted in the real sense of the word- impenetrable to roots.
Should be fine just dont do it in rainy season
I only have one ??? How long does a battery like yours last?
Where can I buy the Electric Power Harrow ?
Where can these tools be purchased?
I wish that there were more tools that were true no dig low disturbance. I dryland farm. The best thing you can do is water in new compost, leaf mold, leaves, and cardboard. Other than that it doesn't seem much water. You can not disturbance anything just trill into it and keep soil structure as a whole as possible. you farm up not down. do everything in your power to keep your sponge alive. "no-till" .. and actually no-till are two different worlds. I remember getting really excited about seeing no-till tools. Then you realize it's shallow min tiller.
i will say this. if it's year 1 and you got 1 year to go down into the ground even in a dryland farming. Cos the first year is sorta rocky aways. That Broadford could be really good.
I like the EcoHarrow, but where do you find it to buy?
paperpotplanter.com/product/eco-harrow/
Luke Combs selling tools now?
HAHAHA Damn underrated comment!
Could the small tool be used in raised beds?
I don't see why not.
Kind of inappropriate No Till hat you got haha
The noise needs to be improved . It's annoying.
you cant beat my 2 troy bult tiller, there rear tines, the tines are thin. and spin reallly fast, turning soil into flour, the best composting machine ever made, i have the 8hp one since march 1987 and the 11hp one since 1993, they chop standing corn stocks into tiny little peaces as well as any other material you want. you cant even see the remains best composting machine going, i have the attachment for making rased bed, hilling potatos, hilling corn cuks, . all my hilling is done in 30 min. and get over 2000Lb of potatos a year
There are several problems with that kind of tilling:
1) It destroys soil structure that harbors bacterial and fungal life that converts minerals to plant-usable form and even brings these to the plants
2) Tilled soil ("flour" as you call it) compacts quickly just from natural rain and other watering, whereas soil with good structure maintains spaces for air and water.
There's more, but these are the main reasons for "no-till" farming and gardening.
PS Know how Troy-builts work. Had some of the old ones. The new ones are a poor imitation of the original.
Inge Anderson Truth
Don't get your foot under that broadfork Boy.
Doing that to my soil is what I am trying to avoid. Earthworms are valuable. They do a lot of irreplaceable work for free. Treat your worms better.
great tool, wrong channel to advertise on.
What happens to earthworms 🪱???