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- Star Trek · The Next Generation · s04e10 · The Loss
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Star Trek · The Next Generation · s04e10 · The Loss
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Troi is also being effected because like the creatures she is also 2 dimensional.
Not in her jumpsuits. 90 pounds of beans in a 40 pound sack.
😆
But she has the two most important dimensions.
@@computernoise2209 That's indeed basically why she was in this show. Haha. Seven of Nine before the day.
Affected, even
I love that they understand nuclear mechanics like it’s a grade school subject but something that is two dimensional has to be illustrated
Let me try and demonstrate with this sheet of paper...
They put that in there so that the stupid viewers could understand.
@@wolfshanze5980 If you can come up with more of those, you should write for Kimmel. That was hilarious.
I suspect this has more to do with treating their audience as though we do not have any functioning brain cells.
Oh dear, how many otherwise excellent sci-fi romps have been ruined because the producers think they are the only ones with any intelligence.
Dumbed down exposition for the 2d audience. ;)
Troi: I can't do my job!
Dr Crusher: Well, when has that stopped you before?
LMAO!!!
This
😜😂😂 You're so wrong😁😉
HOLLA!!!
LOL
Troi should go and talk with Ship's Councilor Guinan
I mentioned that in the last video, hoping she didn't do so later in the episode and make me look stupid :P
@@fubaralakbar6800 I think there was another episode where she did exactly that when she lost her powers then
@@fubaralakbar6800 I hate to break it to you, but she does…
@@leopold7562 Yeah I saw that later on. Face palm moment :P
Such an underrated observation.
Troi - "How do you people live like this?"
Beverly - "What do you mean, you people?"
What do YOU mean you people?
@@yaosio What do you mean what do YOU mean you people?
she doesn't like being exposed as incapable without a cheat code
Me: there is no happy endings just endings.
@@John-PaulHunt-wy7lf true
I sense Troi is upset.
I should be the next Counsellor on the Enterprise.
You are already overqualified. You just have to sense _something_
Odd, I'm getting a sense of sarcasm from somebody.
LOL! You making fun of poor Troi. :-)
@@thefurrybastard1964 Extra points for sensing that something that is neither a feeling or emotion lol nailed it
I'm sensing a disturbance in the force.... too many beans💨
"It's a shame that we can't tell if they're sentient"
"What do you mean by that?"
"I mean even if you had the full scope of your empathic abilities you wouldn't be able to tell us anything other than 'I sense something', also wow, you're gonna try playing the Ableism card on the blind guy?"
This.
Diana is a scam hack. Her ability doesn't even work on other betazoids. Only with her mother, and only for communication.
@@RobeonMew it's not her fault, it's a really similar issue to the Worf Effect. They gave her abilities that, on paper, are way too strong. If she could universally know exactly how a person is feeling and exactly what their intentions are 100% of the time, she would be able to resolve every conflict on the show - which would make for a super boring show. So they had to keep having her powers just... not work, without explaining why, and all the episodes where she has a big role generally fall along the lines of "Troi gets the shit kicked out of her for 44 minutes", "Troi acts like kind of a dick and solves nothing for 44 minutes", or like... one or two times, "Troi's unique ability and insight save the day." They should have reworked the nature of her abilities and given her more screentime - instead, they made her OP and then spent the rest of the series Nerfing her to the point of being kind of a joke.
It's not really about Troi's inadequacies and personal bias, but our own.
@@kamalalsb7292 Cant recall if it was ever mentioned outright in the show, but id imagine, based on her mother/others of her species, she may be well trained in dealing with mental health, but as for her species actual empathic abilities, she is still an "adolescent" in that regard and they still have not fully developed to the point of her essentially being a broken character with what she should be able to accomplish with them. Plus, isnt she half human? I could see that as a simple write-off plot element to explain why her abilities are often hindered or outright suck.
“Inconclusive, what does that mean?”
“It means no conclusion can be made.”
“Inconclusive what does that mean?”
“Do you know what conclusive means?”
“Yes”
“Well it’s the opposite of that”
It amazes me that we never saw sarcasm on any level on this show. I mean, you'd think that this crew, who've spent a considerable amount of time together to the point that they became as close as family there would be some ball busting.
Peter David gave Troi a line of dialogue in his book that still makes me smile.
“I learned that without my empath abilities, I’m a real shrew.”
So, like Neelix on the Intrepid, learn to adjust. Once they had moved so far away from the point of origin where they had picked up Neelix, he felt he was of no longer ant use to Captain Janeway.
"It's a shame we can't tell if they're sentient."
"It's a shame you can't maintain the warp reactor so we don't risk blowing up every week."
Saucer of milk for a catfight for two. (Austin Powers)
I laughed out loud, good show
@@makita3680 Awkward!
@@paulleckner8235 Not you. CommentorX.
Marina Sirtis actually nailed these scenes pretty well, but boy does it do the character a disservice. Even when she gets her ability back, her credibility as a counselor is shot. She's an emotional wreck with no coping mechanisms who lashes out at everyone who cares about her.
Considering her mother is a narcissist, she does pretty well.
Well, it kind of shows an irony where a lot of mental health professionals are great at what they do, but are quite neurotic.
@@AngelaRyanXX Seems to be a common thing for Betazoids.
Not much unlike the actress. 😉
Agreed. Marina nailed the performance but her character in this episode is badly written.
"How can you know what its like to lose something you never had."
I dont know _Counselor_ how can you counsel people on lived experiences you've never had. You do that exact thing on the daily. You expect them to remain calm and trust you but wont extend that courtesy to someone else.
Lol exactly what I thought
How can you lose something you never had? Diana's "telepathy" goes as far as being able to send sentences to her Mother's head only. Everything else is a lie.
"... You'd be treating me? Well, Deanna, maybe if you stopped SCREAMING at me for a few seconds maybe we could find something on scans or in lab tests that'd explain this.
But no. I've *never* experienced this even as I stood by and watch people die, or lose limbs, or brain function, or be maimed and/or die in ways we can't currently prevent even with our science. But please continue to scream at me like a child in the middle of MY sickbay."
A good counselor does not expect a patient to remain calm at all times, certainly not this soon after such a momentous loss. If she were seeing this on someone else it would make perfect sense to her. The grieving process doesn't change just because you're a mental-health professional
@@stars9084 exactly what I was thinking and have learnt in my training.
People need to get some perspective and freaking empathy on why Troi's reaction is so strong, loud and emotional instead of just criticizing her.
It's quite similar to some mental health situations I've had to work with. It takes a lot of patience, empathy and cool head to deal with effectively. NOT judgement
This episode should be called "Troi Loses her shit and makes everyone mad"
at least the woman who lost her husband had the decency to cry alone in her room, diana goes crying all over the third and second dimension
You mean, Tro turns into Marina Sirtis.
at least she didn t get impregnated this time.
Loses her beans
@@manoflemancha2407 seriously why is Troy always getting possessed or impregnated or something? Her bodily autonomy just violated left and right on the show
I read somewhere that they got a lot of letters after this episode from fans who had suffered life changing disabilities, thanking them for this episode, and that what Troi was going through was more accurate than what people realize.
Yep. Everyone in the comments complaining about her character here are obviously people that aren't disabled or never had to deal with anyone who is, closely.
they heard "you people" and thought "she did the thing she's bad you can't triple stamp a double stamp"
That is a horrible thing to contemplate
@@JamesR624well, the episode DID get a lot of negative reviews... Not to put down people w those issues, but I think bc the writers didn't do her character any favors on screen.
@@JamesR624 You either don't know anyone who is disabled, or are disabled yourself and have a MASSIVE chip on your shoulder
He hair has a wicked bounce when she angry-walks
Their costumes were designed to hold everything in place and have no movement during motion- but you can't control that hair.
I must be a Betazoid because I can sense that Deanna is very agitated right now...
You're only half Betazoid, dear.
Amazing
Deanna Troi suddenly realizes that she has no other talents.
Like an ageing OnlyFans girl
Riker would beg to differ
Other talents? She never had any talents. She is the most annoying character from all versions of Star Trek.
The most useless character in the history of television. "Hey lets give this character such OP abilities that if she ever actually used them fully every conflict we could conceive of would be instantly solved so that we have to 'dumb down' her abilities to that of any human with an IQ above 70". Great choice there, show writers and creators... "I can sense he's angry about this", yeah no shit Deanna, he's literally shouting.
more than Kesley?
@@artistjoh
Picard: Councilor, do you sense anything?
Troi: (lookong around nervously) uh... yeah. I sense... a presence. An emotion, if you can call it that. Like nothing I've ever sensed before. But definitely something.
"We happen to be flying through a population of two dimensional beings who are at the exact same planar orientation that is coincidental to every one of our sensors because they're all at the exact same high on our ship and we don't have any visual sensors above or below the exact middle of the ship."
They don’t even need sensors, you just have to look out a window
"And the chance that we approached them at the exact angle is statistically zero. I am also concerned that the image of our surroundings our sensors provides to us has a resolution that mathematically approaches zero on one axis. There might be a whole armada of Romulans just above us right now."
The difference between fiction writers and science fiction writers is frustrating sometimes. But it still was good and enjoyable TV, you just have to check yourself to not be an asshole about it :D
Those things might have height after all, but be lacking either width or length. 😉
@@RoonMian What you call an asshat, i call critical.
My biggest problem with the majority of scifi, is that its designed for an audience that has no concept of the world beyond their daily routine. Who cant see physics in motion, or cant appreciate the scale & variety of things in this wonderful universe.
And they have to severely, *severely* dumb down their content so such people can _maybe_ understand it.
I wish more what i call "hard scifi" would be made by someone.
Scifi meant for people who have more in-depth understandings of physics, and the world around them.
@@davecrupel2817I think you have aspergers
“I can’t do my job” troi the entire series
Throughout the show, she was a lousy councillor. Her best feature was helping Picard determine if someone was lying or not to give him a tactical advantage.
@@Aerojet01 and she didn't even do that very well! She's always, "Captain, I sense the guy on the viewscreen is hiding something."
If I were Picard, there would be a lot of "Oh really, counselor? Thanks, I couldn't figure out why the dude is sweating, stuttering and has a flimsy alibi that doesn't check out! But thanks for letting me know something's amiss!"
@@Aerojet01 She did more effective counselling in those two Voyager episodes she guested in, than her entire stint on the Enterprise.
@@Twister6424 Evidently Stewart, in a bad mood, broke character and said "Really! You useless cow! Thank you SO MUCH for stating th obvous." and later caught hell from Marina for doing so. Perhaps the "we all loved each other" line was not as honest as they would have us believe.
@@canalesworks1247 Knowing how successful the series would eventually be, I would love to have been there to see that. Thanks for that, I spit out my coffee laughing out loud while imaging Stewart doing that.
Troi is absolutely losing her beans here.
@artman2oo3 -- It Geordies fault. His statement pushed her over the age.
As someone who was once crippled in an accident (temporarily - Thank God), I think it's perfectly understandable that she would.
"Coping" is not a straight progression. Nor does it stick to a schedule. (and emotional pitfalls & outbursts are reasonably common)
@@sharkdentures3247 -- I hear you if I suddenly went blind or became crippled I know I would lose it quickly.
Losing her beans
Lots of beans
Lots of beans
So many beans lost
And Troi has just demonstrated why people "walk on eggshells", as she so eloquently put it, in situations like this.
I'm detecting a great deal of anger and frustration ... feelings of ... helplessness and desperation.
What Troi is forgetting to realize here is that Beverly has been dealing with a handicap for along time. That handicap is Wesley.
🤣🤣🤣👍
They kind of did troi dirty here. Presumably she went to the academy and has all sorts of training to fall back on. There must be some alien professors at the academy that don't even care about tits right? She might fall to pieces, but not aggressively like this. IDK. They made her a real buffoon in this episode
You should feel embarrassed by that terrible attempt at a joke.
@@feanedhell so bad 80 other people liked it. Come on bro no one is really Pro Wesley. 🤣🤣
@@GameAGuy i can assure you it would take me less than a minute to find 80 people with a bad sense of humour on the internet. It's not exactly hard.
The pressure of being the most useless crew member on the bridge finally got to poor Deanna.
I think at this point in the episode she had only lost her ability to sense emotions a few hours ago and she already lashing out at a guy who's been blind since childhood.
Explains complex astrophysical concepts like they're nothing.
Takes it slow and illustrates in excruciating detail a simple concept of perspective.
I loved how everyone in the room watched this incredibly slow and obvious demonstration with complete sincerity
"Mr Data, this is the bit the audience needs to understand, so take it nice and easy for the kids at the back of the class."
"Don't worry Deanna - the show writers forget about your telepathic powers most of the time anyways."
They were too preoccupied trying to figure out a way they could write her taking off her top and getting out the oil
As a medical professional, Dr. Crusher actually does have some training (both academic and practical) in being empathetic and understanding towards people experiencing trauma and loss. And it actually shows a bit in the clip because she doesn't get defensive when Troi lashes out. It's a thing that happens. I do wish they gave Troi some scripts that made better use of that acting talent, though. Like in The Wounded, all she gets is one scene where she glances at Obrien- obviously knowing he's going through something hard. And yet the script has her (the ship's dedicated mental health professional) do absolutely nothing about it.
As somebody outside the fandom (some documentary or interview or sth probably shed light on it), I often find myself wondering what the heck happened to her scripts, you know? It isn't like Sirtis couldn't carry an episode. She's as talented an actor as just about anybody on the cast.
Troi is the priestess / mental care expert of the ship. There are ways to make this character work, but it needs a higher authority, she would have to be a political leader of sorts. But Enterprise is already headed by Picard who is a father figure and able to give encouragement on his own. All that's left for her to do is counsel when asked by the Captain. It kind of takes away her forte.
If I remember correctly,isn't this the episode where we find out that Counselor Troi apparently never went to any counselor training?
No.They point out later that she's a trained therapist and that she should rely on that training to do her job.
@@benblanco6944 That's much worse! Ha HAA!!!
I mean, I think we all kinda knew…
When the counselor needs a counselor
Honestly, I get it. Imagine being surrounded by at least a thousand other emotions every day and suddenly that falls away. It's more than just loosing a bodily sense, her awareness could stretch for hundreds or thousands of kilometers.
Sadly, Marina Sirtis was given scripts and stories that gave an absolute disservice to her acting ability. When she was given a meaty script, she was really good. It's a shame that there are episodes like this that made her character cold, bitchy and narcissistic. "How can you people like like this?" Really? And kicking off in front Geordi, who is blind and whose visor causes him pain.
In interviews, Marina does talk about the bad scripts she was given!
Let's play "Guess the writer's least favorite character after Wesley."
@@michaelmerritt7406 Well, Wesley was at least *one* writer's favourite character. If you wanna know whose look up Gene Roddenberry's middle name >_>
I have sympathy to this day with Wil Wheaton for the shit he had to go through because of how dumb his role often was.
@Binty McFrazzles the sad thing is that this character was even created.
@@RoonMian even more sympathy knowing what kind of dicks his parents were.
Season 1
Troi loses her powers:
"Oh no, ive gone from a 2 dimensional character to one dimension!"
I always chuckle when Geordi explains what 2 dimensions are in an age where kindergarteners are doing advanced calculus.
Whoever wrote this episode went out of their way to make Troi as unlikeable as possible. I get what they intended here. If we lost our sight or hearing, we’d be terrified and feel like we couldn’t function. But Troi lashing out at others, inferring things that weren’t implied, or accusing others of not helping her when she needed it? Way to make sure the viewer has no sympathy.
Seriously, they didn't have to go that far to make Troi unlikeable.
Well, you'd have more than sympathy if you could empathize with her. If you get what they intended here, then how are you failing to empathize with her.
_If we lost our sight or hearing, we’d be terrified and feel like we couldn’t function._ Yeah. If you lost your legs, and had start getting used to love ones wiping your ass, and changing every day. You try to get in your chair, slip and fall and are tired of being picked up off the ground. You might snap at people around you. Even they're people who love you, they're the only ones there that even care. We tend to do these things and it's only the best of us that can claim otherwise. It's part of the journey. I never found much use for sympathy, when empathy is just as readily available.
@@Vespyr_ spot on.
@@thefurrybastard1964 If you honestly think that, then you've completely missed the whole point of the episode. This is a comment on the whole issue of disability. Image if you woke up one morning and you couldn't either walk or see? How do you think you'd react? I guarantee you that you'd probably end up reacting in pretty much a similar way to the way Troi does here.
@@Vespyr_
Except she isn't disabled inasmuch as she's lost her superpowers. Just about every comic book hero has had at least one story where they temporarily lost their powers and much of the time, they handled it way more maturely than Troi is acting here.
She isn't deaf or blind and doesn't have any missing limbs. She just can't read people's feelings. Whoopie. Even in the Trek universe most counselors can't read thoughts or feelings, but that doesn't necessarily make them unable to do their job.
Ouch, Beverly did not deserve to have Troi lash out at her like that. It's ironic, perhaps, that the one character on the show with empathic abilities has so little empathy here, and engenders so little empathy in the audience.
That's not her fault, that's ours. People lash out when they are suddenly vulnerable. You think I haven't seen this from someone who had just recently lost a leg, or arm, or is disabled? The elderly do this as well. It's not pleasant, and it isn't positive character trait. But when you just lost something and nobody seems to really be capable of understanding you even if they care about you, their very presence can seem almost like, you're flexing how able you are. It's a sickening feeling. To know inside and out that they are just trying to help, but hating yourself so much, and needing others to understand you so badly, you'd rather they hate you too, because you love them.... and believe they deserve better than what you've become. That's the pain behind Deanna here. The pain of not being able to provide what she can for those she loves. If we can't empathize with that, is that really her failing?
@@Vespyr_
I don't empathize with narcissistic bitches, having been in a relationship with such a person before realizing how manipulative she was.
Exactly. You know all that teen drama crap that high school girls whine and complain about all the time? She comes across more like that in this episode.
@@redpillfreedom6692 Good. Treasure your health man. I wish we could reach everyone about em but most wont get it till its too late. Glad you're free of that.
...so she is empathic, but not sympathetic.
These clips absolutely freak me out. They always come to me, right when I’ve had a moment in my life that relates to them.
Are you a wizard?
I harness the magic of the beans 😜🪄
No, but he does go on chat sites telling people he put on his wizard robe and hat, lol.
Same. Tho the more I've investigated this phenomenon the more I've realized that there's an absolute uncanniness in the messages being sent by the universe when I am open to receiving them.
@@blogtrek5571 Synchronicity.
@@blogtrek5571 Yes. Very good. Don't let that slip...
Its true. It has to be, right?
Its really too bad she lost her abilities. I mean, how is the crew suppose to interact with a new life form if Troi can't tell them, "I feel a thing." "What is it?" "I don't know."
Troi - Beverly, you have to help me. Until now, people only suspected I was useless. Now they KNOW!! They really KNOW I'm completely useless!!
Beverly - Just try to act like a professional .....
Troi - So scream at everyone and act like a hysterical w(b)itch?? Got it.
Ah, the obligatory bash Troi comment. I'm sure yours won't be the last.
@@aggressiveattitudeera887 I think you'd make a better counselor on the Enterprise. Lol
😂😂😂
So the Counselor viewed all her colleagues as inferior to her. In the land of the blinds, the one with an eye is the king. Now she is just like everybody else, no special abilities to make herself distinguishable.
Whats so funny is that its Geordi who set off this little breakdown of hers. Yknow, the blind guy.
never liked Troi, she was a spoiled little princess.
Counselor Troi is having what on Betazed is called a hissy fit. What's more, everyone can sense it...
Yeah but if she took her top off and got out the oil nobody would have cared. Stupid writers for not thinking of it.
"If our positions were reversed, what would you tell me?"
"If our positions were reversed, I wouldn't have been here stuffing my face with beans while you were passed out on your office floor!"
Memory Alpha doesn't say if the animation was computer or hand drawn, but if CG, that's damn good for syndicated TV circa 1990.
Look at the training video for Project Genesis in ST2. That was the 1st cgi used in a movie.
@@nb2008nc As I recall The Last Starfighter featured the first CGI.
@@ExVeritateLibertas That was 2 years later.
"Yes thank you Mr. LaForge, I am familiar with the concept of two dimensional space"
I can't figure why more people didn't tell her to get over herself in this episode. Riker sort of did, but they walked it back in a don't you dare ever say it again moment in the end.
I loved when he put her in her place and made her see the reality she didn't want to while lacking empathy.
1:48 Troi went from 0 to 100 real quick.
1:24 Spock, sometime later: “There’s an almost Vulcan quality to the man.”
She finally realizes shes been using a crutch for too long and her skill set needs improvement she should have used worfs exercise program instead of going off on Beverly
Conselor Troy's powers are so underwhelming. Imagine if she has telepathy, but she can only use it after navigating past people's mental defenses. The stronger the emotional discipline, the tougher the defenses are. Making Vulcans nearly immune, Picard extremely difficult to read, and Romulans very hard to read. That would have made her pivotal in lots of tense situations.
Its still usefull they allready have Data as the overskilled crew member. Sinds Romulans were the common enemy on TNG it helped keep up the tension.
i wouldn't exactly call her powers underwhelming, but the writing for her definitely was. repeatedly so. which plays a huge part in why this episode misses the mark.
and i generally agree with your suggestion.
@@fariesz6786 When did her empathic ability every make the difference when it mattered? I can't recall a single instance. The writers took the time to establish that she was especially useless as a half-Betazoid. The other Betazoids we meet (Lwaxanna, Tam Elbrun) were actual telepaths, the latter being ridiculously powerful. She just gets vague emotional senses that were usually obvious to everyone in the room.
They also undercut one of the core parts of Marina Sirtis' performance. She chose to affect a pseudo-Israeli accent, which sounded a bit odd, but somewhat exotic, emphasizing her alien heritage. Then every other Betazoid speaks like an American, including her own mother.
Riker on the other hand would like sensing a fog horn.
@@percussion44 Yeah Riker is as open with his emotions as a Klingon. Like holy crap. His expressions seem to emphasize important moments in each episode.
Ill never get over how her alien ability is to just explain feelings to the audience.
And badly, as we can clearly see most of it through the acting.
No one has a hissy fit quite like an aristocrat.
Counselor Troi needs to have a session with Counselor Troi.
No she needs a session with a proper councilor
The one thing every space themed show forgets space is not linear a 180 flip on the y axes and not only it Troy outside of the wake but so are the engines.
And the shear stupidity of the coincidence here that the ship just happened to be exactly aligned with them in 3 dimensional space is moronic. There are sadly lots of similar examples with this series where had the writers put even the tiniest bit of thought into their proposed story ideas they would have realised the damage stuff like this was doing to the show. But they didn't. Because that would have required them to actually use their brains to come up with stories that were credible.
i love how in some trek episodes your right there with the crew like "wtf is that shit? and why is it in my galaxy?"
I love how riker was already sensing some was wrong when he was staring at her in the ready room
"Oh I'm so sorry that you have been reduced to one of us lower life forms, counselor!"
If I remember correctly, this is the episode where her real life husband asked when she stopped being Deanna and started acting like Marina.
She nailed the “petulant child” behavior.
2:55 - Enter Karen.
She was as useless a character as Pheobe in Friends.
“The Klingons are very angry, captain.”
Shaddap and enjoy the eye candy you dolt! 😅 she is aesthetically very pleasing 😍😊
@@XXXXXX-su4zb phoebe? She hasn't aged well at all 🤨
@@patrickasplund And you have?
@@XXXXXX-su4zb Troi was supposed to be eye candy? I mean yeah, she's pretty, but I never really saw her as that. Just annoying and useless - which is a super brave position to have, isn't it?
"Captain, The Romulans are hiding something."
Poor Troi, she can't understand two dimensional beings, because she is a one dimensional character.
Oooh, you better offer her some water to pour on that burn.
Marina Sirtis told a story, that one day Patrick Stewart was having some kind of off-screen trouble and he was a little...stressed.
Here they are shooting a scene where Troi says something like "Captain...I sense deception!" and Picard looks her in the face and says "Everyone knows that, you STUPID COW!"
-things that never make it onto the blooper reels!
If Troi can't do her job, then she might think about a transport ship. There's a lot less pressure there.
She's by far the most annoying person on the ship. Sell her to the Orions.
@@DavidLS1 She got better once she started wearing a uniform.
@@USS_Sentinel Perhaps, but can you name a more annoying member of the crew?
@@DavidLS1 I never found her to be that annoying. But you're talking to someone that likes Neelix.
@@USS_Sentinel Neelix, the Jar Jar Binks of the Star Trek universe.
Calm down Deanna. Have some beans, that'll sort you out.
She lost her beans.
If she had just had her eyes gouged out, commenters here would be comparing her to Geordi never complaining about being blind.
Tha look on Riker's face, LOL
It's a shame how the writers dumped on Troi all the time. Marina is a fantastic person, funny, witty and immense fun. Just watch any convention where she has the stage, she's an absolute riot. I have to say though, her storming off strops somehow seems to accentuate her figure to ridiculously hot levels.
I guess in the future, we go back to 4:3 tv screens.
My, my, aren't we touchy today.
I think this is the first time Ive ever seen this actress acting
Capt: Data you said there are historical records found that could explain Counselor Troi's condition.
Data: Yes Captain, it is called "Karenitis" The prevailing treatment during that time period made reference to " slap the crap..." which I am unable to comprehend the meaning.
😆
I always think that last shot of Troi walking into her quarters with the glass table in the foreground is a nod to the other episode where K'Ehleyr is also mad, walks into her quarters and smashes the same glass table.
If you see a glass table from an interesting angle in someone's quarters.. it's about to be broken..
It’s almost like they’re deliberately drawing attention to it or something 🤪
2:13
Rikers face just says "god damit le'forge!"
Troi comes unglued. Crusher should confine her to sick bay & administer Kentucky straight bourbon 94 proof, 3 units oral; 1-3 units additional as needed. Starfleet protocol mandates Makers Mark #46 administered in semi-recumbent orientation, with continuous monitoring.
Tell me, that you are American, without telling me. Talisker, Laphroaig, Glenfiddich, Glenmorangie would be the better choice. 🥃Cheers. Picard would have recommended Earl Grey.
Any time she had any adversity she crumbled.
I love the score in the end of this
@3:09 holy shit Troi o.O Calm yourself down! GO EAT SOME CHOCOLATE!
For Troi it’s like losing your sight or legs
Can you imagine how expensive that CGI model on Data's screen was back then?
Did Data actually have to explain to the flagship bridge crew the difference between 2D and 3D? I learned that in like 1st grade.
They say how someone reacts to a crisis, especially a personal one reveals their true nature. If that's true, the verdict isn't good for Counsellor Troi.
No. That's bullshit
@@jadapinkett1656 The amount of likes my comment has would say otherwise.
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“Diana, I sense you’re under a great deal of stress”
Uno reverse the f out of her
"Apparently we're being dragged down by beings that are oblivious and lack dimension"
Troi: "What's THAT supposed to mean??"
"What do you mean "you people"?"
Troi: “How do you people live like this?!”
Me: What do YOU mean by that?
imagine if worf had walked in right then and just went "what do you mean, you people?" omg im dying lol
Ah, so that's where Orville got the idea!
so think of it this way, your a long distance runner for, an athlete basically for a living. you've fallen down the stairs and lost the use of your legs. then someone who can walk fine says to you "ohhh youll be fine, you can always get a wheelcair". for her people, it must be the same thing.
Picard: Geordi, do you do that with the Quake keys? LaForge: No, you use the mouse for look-around. Picard: Ah.
If it wasn't for her "powers" Troi would be formidable. Every time they let her shine she uses her professional skills to defeat her opponents and solve problems. She gets to show strategy and courage like a role model. Her telepathy makes her vague and indecisive.
Yeah, but without her ability she probably wouldn't be able to win another game of 3D chess against Data
@@michaelschweigart3517 Nobody should be able to beat Data at chess except Riker and only because that look Riker gets on his face when he wins.
@@emersonmacintosh7673 okay
Good lord, sprinkle some more of those beans upon me.
Deanna has a Karen moment, it's been a tough day.
All right, folks, what would a useful Troi be like?
More lie detection would be nice. Ditto with actual counseling. And more specificity.
Make her able to sense and identify life forms and their positions at a distance.
Another on this thread suggested telepathy except on the mentally disciplined. I second the motion.
IIRC Betazoids are normally telepathic but since she's only half-Betazoid she's an empath instead. But there still was much more they could have done with her; if they'd gotten real therapists to consult on writing Deanna in-session maybe they could have brainstormed some usable "wouldn't it be nice to help my patients if I could do X" ideas. Not to mention the cool stuff you brought up; she should have beaten everyone but Data at poker. Even Ferengi, whom she couldn't read, should still have shown up on her "radar," but I don't remember them ever addressing that possibility.
The only bit I can remember that showed how she could have been interesting as Deanna Troi the half-Betazoid empath was when Jellico replaced Picard for a few episodes, and he was rubbing everyone the wrong way, and Riker said something like "He's awfully sure of himself" and Deanna was just "No, he's not." But she and Jellico didn't get much more development than that.
Her character improved greatly after she took the bridge officer's exam and a got a proper uniform. At this point I think she's still a civilian 'contractor' aboard the ship. Eventually she returns with a blue science division uniform, a commission, and increased competency.
She _really_ must have used her empathic ability as a crutch if she feels so sorry for herself despite being in the same room as the guy who needs a fancied-up hair clip just to enjoy the technicolor mess generously called "sight."
This reminds me of the IT Crowd episode where Jen becomes the PMS Monster.
"Psychiatrist, heal thyself!"
in riginal ST, kirks crew came upon similiar problem on surface of moon. A minor substrate change by the landing craft, disturbed the 2 mm thick top and the 2 mm thick middle and the 2 mm thick botton laters the top and bottom layers were peaceful cutures of life.. and they discharged NRG to combat that which disturbed them the shuttle craft feet & those who walked . one died in this exchange
Star Trek TNG: Classic and Iconic.