Mark Fisher on why Modern Life causes Depression ITA sub
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- čas přidán 17. 04. 2019
- Mark Fisher talks about bureocracy, depression and hints on why modern life causes depression.
He mentioned Franco Berardi in the end which the original video didn't get correctly.
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“There will be a break down”
Horrific statement considering everything that has happened to consider worse is still ahead
indeed. but he seems that no matter whay, we us a society are not able to hold accountable whose should be accountable for the disaster we're heading to.
This man is spot on glad I found his work.
Mark, quanto vorrei ci fossi ancora. Non finirò mai di dirti grazie.
real philosopher. real power. beautiful.
Watched this so many times . Very good
It has been 11 years since this talk, and things have only gotten much worse, as one could have expected. Society has continued its celebrity worship, ongoing individualism, consumerism, and escapism into the digital world, just to name a few trends. As of 2024, we are unable to have honest and meaningful conversations with each other, and friendships and relationships have become meaningless and temporary. The prospect of having a stable family life and raising children has disappeared, with people focusing mainly on chasing the next high of temporary happiness or fulfillment. The only thing that seems to matter to people nowadays are APPEARANCE and MONEY. We don't even know what it means to be human anymore!
We are closer to nuclear war than we have ever been (literally 90 seconds to midnight), and armies around the world are gearing up, increasing their size, and practicing for all kinds of adverse scenarios instead of disarming and maintaining peace. If war doesn't kill us, the climate catastrophe likely coming within the next 5 years (since the goal of +1.5 degrees Celsius was basically already surpassed in 2023) will change our lives in ways that still seem incomprehensible to us. Society is in full denial mode, as the prospect of having to change our behavior now instead of later is something many deem unacceptable.
All kinds of new technologies are being sold to us as solutions to these global problems. AI bots, electric cars, "green" energy, hydrogen, and other so-called "solutions" are not going to save us. All people in positions of authority, be they teachers, judges, police officers, CEOs, bureaucrats, etc., are also too busy maintaining their own standards of living and entrenching themselves in their positions rather than using their power to bring about actual change in society. We, as young people, have been scammed and lied to by a education and university system that teaches subservience and silence rather than critical thinking and ways to enact societal change. We are the ones that should be solving the current issues and building a better world, but this is simply not possible while drowning in debt and having been deprived of meaningful connections and access to power. The coming years are most likely going to be much worse than anything we have ever seen before, so buckle up your seatbelts because it's going to be one heck of a ride...
@@Niitewing I sadly must agree on everything. But to quote Franco Berardi himself, we cannot account for the unpredictable, and that could be something that could happen that could change everything again. For the better or the worse we don't know but in the meantime is in our power to brace together. Thank you for your message, I feel your pain and frustration and it's the same many of us suffer.
Yep, Mark Fisher also ends his book Capitalist Realism on that same note: "The tiniest event can tear a hole in the grey curtain of reaction which has marked the horizons of possibility under capitalist realism. From a situation in which nothing can happen, suddenly anything is possible again." Of course we cannot know for certain if this event will be positive or not and if the change it brings about will be desirable or not. Capitalist Realism may end, but the apocalypse may begin immediately afterwards...
I just feel that it is pointless to sit and wait for some kind of miracle to happen, so let's focus on the facts and data we already have. It is clear what needs to be done, but no serious action is being taken. If we take an unbiased look at the facts and data, the 'event' that will wake people up from Capitalist Realism will most likely be a huge disaster as a result of global warming. This event will make the whole concept of owning capital meaningless, but by then it will be much too late. We have to face this reality and act as if the disaster already has taken place. This will be the only way to survive the Anthropocene!
fisher ❤
i wonder what viktor frankl would say. anyway, i love Mark Fisher.
sante parole
What's the alternative that produces happiness, creativity, fulfillment and security?
Moving forward? That's the question, innit?
Looking backward? "The West" obliterated alternatives that challenged its plurality. Indigenous peoples were doing just fine for much longer than the US Dollar has been around
We can gain inspiration from political efforts from the great depression and the gilded age. Often socialist policies were the solution to the problem.
Actually, Deceleration. Productivity and ambition are so ingrained in our psyche that if we are not doing anything productive we start feeling guilty, or being called out. Boredom and leisure are frowned upon if you can’t afford to take the time to chill. It’s harder to have fun without having to pay a fucking fee.
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I cannot find the original talk. I'm sure I've watched it before, but cannot find it again. Can anyone help?
Thanks to the Mark Fisher Cyberfield channel there is an archived version of his talk on the Cyberspace-time crisis: czcams.com/video/zOQgCg73sfQ/video.html
WHY WAS THE ORIGINAL VIDEO TAKEN DOWN
i have no clue and it deeply saddens me.Capitalism wins in life and in death :(
Thanks to the Mark Fisher Cyberfield channel there is an archived version of his talk on the Cyberspace-time crisis: czcams.com/video/zOQgCg73sfQ/video.html
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Please give us the original source...full lecture?
that is sadly not available to me anymore. some of his content has been taken down or made private pretty constantly :(
@@palicaoo Do you know why?
@@ripper2045 capitalism baby
@@ripper2045 I suppose after his death his intellectual property was claimed. in particular this lecture was made available online by the university he visited for this conference, it makes no sense the took it down :(
@@palicaoo Do you happen to know when the original talk took place? I'm hoping to find it online somewhere.
The original video is private, do you have another link or something
sadly nope :(
Thanks to the Mark Fisher Cyberfield channel there is an archived version of his talk on the Cyberspace-time crisis: czcams.com/video/zOQgCg73sfQ/video.html
@@Niitewing this fills me with joy
Drake diss?
yes indeed
Relatably, Fisher quoted Drake as the epigraph for his book, Ghosts of My Life - "Lately I've been feeling like Guy Pearce in Memento"
Why are you styled like My Generation and Demography and Culture and How we grew up ?
Fvcking Creepy ?
Congratulations this comment aged like whisky
Why is it 'Modern Life' not Capitalism?
the two are interconnected, now more than ever. the structure of modern life is intimately tied to capitalism and the other way around i suppose. but the focus here is on life itself and what i means under capitalsim rather then the contrary
At least some of what young people are being deprived of are the traditions, structures and continuity that could be assumed by their ancestors. They lived harder lives materially but were bonded in tight communities with established roles and norms. These institutions and related culture provided and reinforced collectivity and predictability. They are the very things that conflict theorists and schools (Marxists, neo-Marxists and Feminists) of various guises have sought to deconstruct and undermine for generations.
HoGent represent
thank you! Ithought it was Antwerp and I was able to find the original video!
The managerial bureaucracy he describes comes first and foremost from the State itself or from mandates of the State imposed on private businesses and corporations. Free enterprise and capitalism has nothing to benefit from purely procedural and symbolic practices that you find dealing with HR in universities or with any pencil pusher in a public office. Capital seeks to dissolve procedural thinking and not to reinforce it.
He's not talking about hr departments and ineffective bureaucrats lol.
This has definitely not been my experience. It assumes businesses and their managers are always going to be logical agents but they simply are not
@@danielblank9917It is not about being a rational agent or not. It is an optimization process that is at stake. Businesses and organizations that are managed and the responsibility is not shared among a multitude but to a CEO that is held responsible by a board sooner or later dissolve appearances for effective decision making as this is essentially to continue profit seeking, or at least that happens to those businesses that survive and have longevity in the market. Keeping the appearances of something happening all the time (this something never seems to unfold in the end and that's why it's procedural and not realized) is the work of a state bureaucrat and nowadays the universities are in abundance of those persons filling up HR departments while the number of actual researchers and academicians keeps decreasing.
Stupid right-winged take. Corporations are no different than the state with their hierarchies, bylaws and policy. They are one of the same.