【DDR A20 PLUS】 Jucunda Memoria [SINGLE EXPERT] 譜面確認＋クラップ
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- Lv 17
BPM 48.3?-290
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1:29 I think about these three arrows a lot
This yuisin comment section did not disappoint lmao
very good intro song to the world of janky 18s. i feel like these charts that split the difficulty between two numbers are actually pretty useful in that regard
This chart isnt really that bad. Everyone is acting like this is degrs pt.2. it flows pretty well and is kinda fun to play
@@iiTsFaded_ this lol. How is this not an 18?
@@voltroomddr4830 I dont think its that this chart should be an 18; its more like ngo csp should be a 17
@@wwpl8371 So this chart should be an 17 also?
@@Sognik I do. Do you think this is harder than PTF? CTT? the KAC megamix?
it's a 17. There are a lot of other 17s that I can't get a closer score to jucunda. The whole songs flows well, and don't get tired at all
the song feels exactly like DJ TECHNORCH but doesn’t at the same time
and also I actually really like this chart, it’s a polished NGO which I know doesn’t sound good but it looks fun to play
edit: 30th “17.” I felt my soul leave my body at that last section
Banger song, banger chart, unpopular opinion but I deadass it's one of the best new additions to the game
Those weird stepjumps may seem excessive, but I think this chart is overall fine. In fact, I've been warming up to it. Compared to NGO CSP (what I see many comparing this to), it's way better synced and most of its patterns have much better flow overall. This chart also has a lot more personality and really challenges the norm, making it a breath of fresh air within the A20+ folder. Honestly, I will take this chart over many of the very barebones charts we've been getting in A20+ lately; we need more charts like this.
Still waiting for this to get a Challenge chart. Maybe it'll be an actual milquetoast 19, who knows.
This chart screams Supernova Era boss songs.
The song is amazing tho.
I know right? This is like what Arrabbiata could have been
out of all the 19s, this is definitely the most milquetoast of them
(actual serious take on this chart: idk im too out of shape to play it but the song rules)
23 years of charting and we still get shit like this
Lol!!
Chart looks awesome, seems to have very fun and interesting patterns all around to make for a nice breath of fresh air from the other charts we've been getting. Looking forward to playing this! Milquetoast 19.
yeah this is a milquetoast 19
Ah yes, my favorite song... Jucunda Matata
Damn when Konami released good lookin they must have been talking about this chart
Okay jokes aside I don’t mind this chart lol, it’s not so cut and dry, and I feel like it has more personality than a lot of Konami charts as of late, it flows pretty well, just does its own thing, and I dig that!
Uh I mean, milquetoast 19
"Personality" is the perfect word for this and charts such as DEGRS, Pluto the First, NGO etc. I never thought about it, but although I shit on these kinds of charts on the surface, I secretly do like watching the trainwrecks. It just makes DDR so unique and lovable for me when it embraces jank... just as long as they don't do it all the time lol (SN2, looking at you).
I highly regret scarring the comment section with my initial thoughts on this chart. Sorry if I offended you or anyone in this comments section. I only claimed it as a 'milquetoast 19' because I was outright frustrated with how the chart was made and the rating it received. After diving into it a bit more, some of the crossovers feel rather awkward, but they do resolve. The big challenge for me is figuring out which parts to double-step and which parts to cross over, but I think I found an approach that I'm comfortable with. It's kind of like how I reacted to when I first saw Norepinephrine ESP last summer.
@@BoldNBrash fun fact, apparently Aaron (the person who made the doubles chart) started making this one, then some other random guy “finished” it for him, wonder what it would’ve been like
@@baby-lon8501 LOL dw about it, it’s just CZcams comments, no hard feelings. We kinda memed your comment a little too hard and i hope we didn’t go too far.
@@Cardmaster12 As of now, it didn't (especially how it went highly noticed on Twitter). Though, this comments section will probably go down as one of the most meme-induced comments section of Yuisin's channel. LOL
殺意に満ち溢れている
Everyone here talks about NGO CSP, but tbh this also gives me PARANOiA ~HADES~ CSP vibes.
if this is a 17 then NGO is a 17
According to many players, NGO is arguably THE EASIEST 18 out of all the 18s.
You know what, you’re right! Make NGO CSP a 17, Konami. What’s taking you so long?
@@lpcrossover5424 This is the only correct take.
@@lpcrossover5424 yea i mean it's even faster and loaded with those nasty jumps and a much higher note count. i can't see NGO being harder than this, if not in the same level. The only thing NGO has for it its shitty sync issues
@@lpcrossover5424 I remember when the new rating system came out and being surprised at how many older boss songs were re-rated to 18s. That was especially true with NGO as it seemed way too easy in comparison to things like DEGRS, Pluto Relinquish and Paranoia Hades to be put in the same league (albeit not overwhelmingly easier). It's almost like they slapped a whole bunch of them into the same rating just to say "this song is quite hard, so beware". To be fair though, there weren't as many true 18s to form enough of a comparison at the time, but NGO could definitely get a re-rate based on how many more harder songs have come out since then, case-in-point with this new one.
If NGO is a 18 then this is a 18
.yeah
ok i get that its funny for the comments section to think every chart is a misrating but they might be onto something this time
(or its a 17.8)
Its a millquetoast negative 26
ただ足18って程でもないというだけで実際死ぬほど理不尽な配置
Why do 90% of the comments about the chart rating always come from people who have probably never even played the fucking song on pad lmao. It's a harder 17, but it's fine as a 17
Yeah. Agree with it being a hard 17
Should be a 16 tbh
Should be a 15 tbh
looks kinda like a 13 hmmm could use a few more streams
@@2DKAPS slap some more green notes into that bad boy
Okay a few things
1. I fucking hate this chart. For me, personally. It's just really awkward to play, my body isn't accustomed to the movements so for me it's painful and its full of things I'm bad at, plus the sound quality isn't great in game.
2. That said, I think charts like this are very good for the game and I think a lot of the comments here are really silly. We need more charts like this to push skillset meta and it's been a while since we got something NGO-like, this chart is basically that but not broken and I appreciate that.
3. If anything, this chart just highlights the fact that NGO is actually a 17. This isn't any harder than Chaos terror tech or PTF.
4. I do like the fact that, as someone else pointed out, you literally can play this whole thing without double stepping if you know it well enough. Plus, it's the kind of chart where any turn mod is meta.
Tldr I don't like it but some of you, mainly jackhammer nosepicker and groin kicker, need to chill out a bit. Prey CSP as an example was really abysmal for the game, simply because it has a high chance of hurting someone and it's dependent on pad condition, on top of it being kinda uninspired jumpfest charting, but this is fine.
Then again: an milquetoast 19
This is exactly how I feel too, all of it
譜面知らなかったからBPMだけ見て解禁目的でやったら膝が死んだ
Yknow, just had a thought. This is chart is literally just if NGO and Fascination Eternal Love Mix had a baby. Which is terrifying as all hell. Brb while I never unlock this chart so I don’t need it for Life4 requirements :p
ハデス鬼の逆鱗も見えてしまう
Imagine the challenge chart
This kinda falls under the same category as steampunk maiden ddr edition where the ESP is borderline 18 but the EDPs are solid 17s.
If you know what you're doing, there should be zero double stepping involved. I really like the liberties this chart takes to make you move. Unpopular opinion, but DDR needs more stepjump charts.
itg all over again
The fact that it took a decade and a half for DDR to catch up to ITG just speaks to ITG's quality. In fact, I still don't think DDR has caught up to ITG.
@@BizerkPixel I hold the same opinion. This is basically Tell.
This isn't bad TBH. Sure there's ambiguous foot movement on some part like on 0:16 where you should use right foot to resolve everything ahead, not-so-obvious footswitching in 0:25, and kinda weird footswitching moment in slowdown at 0:45. But everything other than that flows well and fun to nail.
People compares this to DEGRS like what? This is miles better than DEGRS and NGO. Rating-wise I think this is harder than NGO CSP because crossovers, stepjumps, and 20BPM faster than NGO, but I can see why KONAMI rates this as 17.
I just hope KONAMI didn't add a CSP18 for this song. I can sense Prey CSP trainwreck if that were to happen.
The length of the song coupled with the large number of jumps and large streams should guarantee this as an 18. This is no way a 17. Also evil of Konami to put it at the end of a really easy Course Trial.
No, it’s actually nice that the course has easier songs in the beginning, so players have more energy to tackle this at the end. Also anyone selecting this course shouldn’t be surprised since all the information about the songs’ ratings and bpm are right there lol
107 comments holy crap you guys went sicko mode here
beast
Konami’s thinking…”hmmmm…PSMO is a 16 with 290 BPM chalk-full of crossovers and some jumps near the end…let’s make that but drug it and slap a 17 on THAT BIZ! 🤪”
Honestly tho, THANK GOD! I really miss seeing charts and scroll speeds like this since Splash Gold.
I’m just upset we got this instead of Tribal Trial lol
Some parts of the chart kinda reminded me to truare esp, with almost 100 bpm faster this time
You can thank Akhuta for making both songs
My honest opinion on this chart is that it’s a really rough 17.85. The thing about this chart is that it’s learnable and can be tamed. NGO is harder in the sense that the jumps are way more tedious than these. It’s all in how you handle the chart.
Yeah. NGO is so hard because it's janky, and although this is a better version of NGO, it loses difficulty along with the jank lol
I do think this chart is harder to clear than NGO CSP, because this song is faster and is a lot more packed towards the end. NGO can be BS passed pretty easily, by dropping the single note in the middle in many of the "jump sandwiches". That said, this chart may be easier to combo than NGO because the jumps aren't sandwiched. Still curious as to why NGO is rated higher, though.
Good to see you’re still around anytime a controversial chart gets released lol.
NGO has a much tighter squeeze of step jumps with 8th notes in between and a longer stream of those step jumps than this chart, this chart has more emphasis on longer 8th note streams rather than step jumps. Also NGO has "jump into 8th note into jump(followed by another one) and many more jumps before that which for a short burst makes it an 18 (barely) and Jucunda memoria doesn't have those specific patterns but the ones they share are a little more spread out compared to NGO. Even though this is way more enduring cause of the overall length of the song, stream/stamina isn't considered into rating, I mean just look at the charts they've been putting out recently. Night of knights (Ryu Remix) ESP, Max 360 DSP, Bang Pad ESP, even oldies like Spanish snowy dance were pushing stamina and yet are seemingly underleveled due to technicalities of what determines a level (it's voltage).
@@SomberShroud Stamina requirements not being incorporated into a chart's level of difficulty is more often than not an anomaly. MAX 360 DSP being a 15 is simply wrong if you ask me. If your assertion was true, all of Elemental Creation's charts are overrated, MAX 360 ESP and CSP are overrated, and Luckgakist CSP would have no business being a 16, either.
@hnkul702 hmm, I don't think you interpreted my assertion correctly if you think that those would be "overrated". I think those songs are properly rated (at least in the eyes of konami) because drills aren't weighted as heavily as simple patterns or crossovers or even sometimes triplets, also the amount of breaks (8th notes breaking up the 16th notes) also effects the voltage so things like Elemental Creation gets by inching at that borderline of each level rating. This ends up making some songs way more stamina intensive than ones at a higher level cause of the way they rate songs. Look at drop out(nonstop megamix) that has a spike of 16th notes at the end unlike most 13 footers but that's a 12 since 1. Its short enough to be considered 2 measures of 1 difficulty higher steps (3 measures would put it 1 level higher [reference: The legend of Max ESP]) 2. It's a drill pattern, if it were a simple pattern like max 300 DSP then it would be a 13(A song like Horatio ESP if it were converted to simple patterns would be higher level). I think there are enough songs out there like this to say that this is how konami rates the charts even if they are anomlies. I think songs like Qipchaq ESP and EDP(songs that are near identical in stepcharts) are even more of an anomly than these though.
@@SomberShroud Your assertion was that stamina is not accounted for in difficulty ratings. You seem to agree that that assertion is not true.
For me that is really a 18.
17? Those jacks and those cross jump eighth notes at 290? I doubt it. 🥴😩😓
This gives me vibes of Max 300 with that speed of 290 bpm.
I think this is a solid 17, can be 18 if the BPM is higher
Hey it's NGO CSP if it wasn't stupid. Long as you warm up first oh, it seems like this chart will be fine
Also this song would fit in the Gauntlet games 🤣
鬼19
Good song AND good chart! Definitely a 17.
基本BPM２９０の曲ってこれまで鯖MAX以外無さそうな気がして何か知らんがスゲ〜久しぶりって感じがするな。
何気に珍しいすよね
Konami messed up with rating this a 17. This is either a broken 18 or an milquetoast 19 at best. This chart's just atrocious in every way, probably the worst one in all of A20+. Streams this broken alongside tremendous amounts of jump-stepping and ridiculously fast double-stepping where your feet and legs wander around aimlessly at an uncomfortable BPM put Dead End "Groove Radar" Special to shame in regards to quality. Unfortunately, we'll have to wait several more years until Konami realizes their mistakes and re-rates it to a higher difficulty (or at least just fix the chart so it's playable).
*UPDATE / EDIT (8/6/21):* Okay, so after reading the replies and discovering that I created a viral comments section about my opinions with this chart, I might as well clarify a few things. This doesn't even look like it should be a 19. The only reason I labeled it as a 'milquetoast 19' was because I was extremely frustrated at the time of writing this with how this chart was written out and practiced stepping to it. I still stand by what I said though about Konami re-rating this as an 18, though. To me, this really doesn't play out like a 17 (yet Konami claims NGO is an 18) because of how I observed this chart. After studying it a bit more, the crossovers it offers feel awkward, but they eventually resolve themselves if you approach them right. I apologize if I aggravated anyone in the comments section with my behavior and reaction to the chart.
You’re insane if you think this is even close to being a 19.
There isnt any double stepping in the chart. All the turns transition into each other smoothly. The only thing that's kinda hard is the stepjumps but even then it's not really anything ridiculous
wut. i don't see this being an 18 at all. Just a hard 17 (double step everything and you'll notice it will be easier)
hun if u can't clear it just admit to it u don't have to write a whole ass essay
Baby-Lon forgot his headphones
memes aside, this is the hardest 17 (tohoku is a close second). the only thing halting me from my clear lamp is this dumpster fire
Take so bad it could be a social experiment
y'all stop saying you have to doublestep the crossovers. they all flow (although the run after 0:33 is kinda jank, need to remember to crossover the gallops)
although yeah I woulnd't complain if they changed this to be rated 18
Not have to, but at 145 16th's, most skilled players are gonna double a lot of those patterns.
@@veeetox Honestly, what are you talking about?. I play dance games since 2003 and i've been doing almost every single song with crossovers until 2014 ish. That's when I realized that if I want to up my game there are occasions were not doing crossovers is better than not doing them. Check the top tier Pump and DDR players. You are going to be surprised how much they double step. Ni aqui, en Australia, ni en Peru o en America se sigue jugando todo cruzando.
@@lapre That's an embarrassment then
@@mariyannuism So, are you saying that it's an embarrassment that top tier players in DDR and pump are embarrasing players because they do not do just crossovers - meaning they mix crossovers with double step and other techniques? That's how dance games is played nowadays
17.55
1:31
最後にこれがあるので、コーストライアルは激を選ぶのをやめましょう
あれれ? 「BEMANI Sound Team "Akhuta"」じゃなかったっけ?
この曲はミライダガッキからの輸入で、当時はBSTの概念が無かったのでそのままAkhuta表記です
これに限らず、輸入曲は原則当時のままのアーティスト名表記ですね
Air heroes seems easier therefore making this a ...... Nevermind
this sounds more like a model dd song ehehe
Played it once and i won't play it again
This chart is pain lol...
I’m trash at step jumps. :(
ngoがなんで18なの？って譜面
Basically Prey challenge if it was drunk
I fucking love this
This is a very strange chart. The first half in my opinion. Also the song is... interesting to say the least. 😒
I'm able to pass Pluto The First CSP but not this lol
When the composer falls asleep on the keyboard.
If I can pass this, this is not a 19
ダガッキからの移植らしいけどこんな曲があったのは知らなかった
てか全然ダガッキに合わない曲だ
Too easy for 18, is just a hard 17
19 milquetoast
18 or 17.9
KONAMI pls re-rank this right now!
こんな爆弾を隠し持ってたミライダガッキをもっとdigれ
guys just play on mirror
Like duh
これが17ならNGOも17
17でやっていい発狂じゃない
PSMO onc= crack
I seriously love to meet the person who made this chart and kick them square in the nuts without saying hello. Terrible stepchart with broken patterns with an overabundance of jumps make me confuse this with an XX chart on shrooms. LOL
I say worse than Pluto the First challenge at minimum.
I love to hear what the “maximum” is to you.
@@lpcrossover5424 When it comes to chart design, probably Uh La La La. On the bright side, at least this chart doesn't feature three arrows on the same step.
(Now that I said that, the chart's starting to make a bit more sense)
there needs to be a copypasta subreddit dedicated strictly to Yuisin comments
17.9999999999999
:(
Huh
DDR A20+ upcoming songs became more disappointing in my opinion. DDR without Naoki Maeda felt different than 20 years ago.
Move on. Things change. U1 has worked on DDR for over 20 years and his musical direction isn't even the same as 20 years ago.
I really hate the phrase, but...
ok boomer
あさき臭のする曲
JKD is Bad
18
Agreed, this is really an 18.
No
Yes
Not a fan of the music at all. The steps are challenging and not that fun. It’s diet NGO CSP.
Chart is unique, song is absolute garbage. Hard 17/Easy 18.