I think some people ought to have special dispensation from suffering any sort of unhappiness,and this gent is one of them. How much love he spreads around! My favourite teacher took me to listen to him decades ago,and I'm so grateful she did.
DId you ever wonder how much/little Andras Schiff uses (damper)pedal in Bach? at 00:54 and forward you can see the whole line of dampers and they go up (pedal) when there is a beautiful chord to hold in a legato-language. This is what makes this rendering of Partita 1 so beautiful. -- I have played it so and so (not admiring myself) and finding it beautiful to use the pedal where you otherwise would need to play staccato or short-tenuto.
Каждый день благодарю БОГА , что ОН подарил нам это ЧУДО постижения Прекрасного, Гармонии Мирозданья!! Гений Андраша Шиффа и Его Уникальные Мастерство и Дух приближают нас на мгновение к Вечности, к Божественной Красоте Мира!! Благодарю за СОВЕРШЕНСТВО МАСТЕРА!!!❤🎉
Sublime, unsurpassed. These partita recordings are treasures bringing so much happiness and joy into this world. Here also in the most beautiful surroundings. Thank you, Andras Schiff!
IMO impossible and unfair to even try to rank any of the acknowledged great Bach interpreters. We are all privileged to have heard and seen them all.@@TheSoteriologist
@@rsjmd I am just making sure he hasn't missed those. It was him who fabricated an apparently objective assessment out of his personal preferences, not me.
I love the venue, the beautiful paintings on the wooden walls, the flowers, the black and white floor, the big windows (probably from Bach's time) behind the performer and outside, the best work of art ever created: nature ... And of course, the composer (the greatest of all) and the masterful performance... (the Gigue.. that was something really special...) 🌹
This is one of the greatest keyboard pieces ever created. Every note is perfect and the counterpoint is mind blowing. I first heard this in a Dinu Lipatti recording from 1950 and have loved it ever since. This is great music on a level so high that no composer since has been able to match its contrapuntal genius. The Gigue at the end always blows me away, especially the second half with those amazing harmonic changes.
I think Schiff's interpretation is much better than Lipatti, sacrilegious as that will seem. Lipatti's tempo is rather too fast, almost dismissive, and whilst I have not heard it for many years, does he play all the repeats? I think Schiff loves the music more.
Nice to see him using pedal. He once said " When performing Bach, Schiff avoids using the sustain pedal, following the advice of renowned harpsichordist George Malcolm (1917-1997). “He told me not to play Bach with the pedal, but to play it with your hands and not with your feet.”
Like Horowitz, Sir Andras has perfect control of his hands - a blessing of a lifetime of playing the piano. Another beauty in his phrasing is the delicate nuances between the volume of each note in a line, instead of the terrible hammering that many pianists indulge in.
@@marksmith3947In which respect ? I cannot see any superiority in Horowitz, nor technically nor mentally. His repertoire was far too small, maybe because of his mental problems sometimes and the dull ambiente at home.
@@felixsinniger280 if you can't hear that Schiff is not a proficient pianist you should have your ears tuned. In his specialities he offers something worthwhile, but the lack of technical brilliance and varied sound palette puts him far from elite level. I personally find Schiff dull but inoffensive ;that other people appreciate his playing is normal variation of tastes. But to compare Schiff with any real virtuoso is too big a stretch.
@@marksmith3947 Here in Europe Andras Schiff is considered maestro number one on J.S Bach, and this for decades. He has studied the music of Bach every day for nearly 60 years. Who is able to perform the 6 Partitas or the 6 French Suites in one concert ? Most of the pianists don't have the capacities of memory as Andras Schiff. Of course you might see him the way you like. Most people who like the music of Bach prefer him to any other pianist.
Diese Interpretation kommt der legendären Wiedergabe durch Dinu Lipatti im vorigen Jahrhundert zumindest sehr nahe. Sie hat mich ein Leben lang begleitet. Leider war die Aufnahmetechnik damals noch unzureichend. Aber man hatte den Eindruck, die Musik komme aus dem Jenseits. Für dieses Jahrhundert ist Andras Schiffs Interpretation gültig.
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The subtle rubato is one of A.S.'s master touches. Along with bringing out the different threads beautifully, masterful dynamics and naughty but nice use of the pedal. Though I am surprised at just how MUCH pedal he uses in the Praeludium. He almost makes the whole movement legato...The Corrente is brilliant. The speed he plays it at is insane! But perfectly balanced. So fluent and masterful, I could barely believe it when he actually dropped a note (but who cares?).
Obviously Andras Schiff uses much more the sustaining pedal than he did for many decades, but he uses it very softly. I think, he still uses it much less than the majority of the pianists with the compositions of Johann Sebastian Bach. His good taste will not leave him !
@@janbonsema5888It seems that Steinway is an apropriate piano even for the compositions of Bach. For classical and romantic music Andras Schiff normally prefers Bösendorfer.
@@felixsinniger280 the other day I viewed Elenea Nefedova interpret on a Boesendoerfer half grand with this exquisite cristaline sound and after that I won't criticize the Boesendoerffer any more. Thanks your reply on e mail
But when this music was written they didn't even have ringtones and the piano wasn't yet a thing..... therefore the sublime alchemical uplift of this performance is somehow invalid?? For you maybe but most people just love the music. (To whomever may feel that way, irked harpsichordists etc)
Ich kenne die Aufuehrunegn von Gieseking und Lipatti ; Ich glaube Sie spielten von eine Partitur von anderem Drueck mit u.a. weniger Verbindungs trillos im Sarabande
Such nice playing. If instead you want a sparkling performance with original insights, try Sokolov playing the same piece, or to be blown away, there is of course Gould. (I know I won't make friends here by saying this, but please do compare this to other recordings and others.)
There needs to be a substantial moment of silence after the last note is played. There is a good reason. It has to do with the vibrations in the air that remain after the music stops. The music is still radiating outward, outward and it needs a space of silence to move into. The cacophonous beating of hands, the rowdy applause, beats it back and obliterates the afterglow that is absolutely necessary for the FULLEST enjoyment of the music. The music needs to be surrounded by silence. That way, it can be heard better. It's like clearing the palate between courses at dinner. At the end of a piece, the audience should hold back their enthusiasm for a few seconds. Let the music melt away
Schiff is a master of his craft and probably the best Bach interpreter alive. Though I have to say, Sokolov plays those pieces better. All movements are better executed by Sokolov, sound clear and more precise.
Everyone has his preferences. To my mind, great interpreters of J.S.Bach are Andras Schiff, Murray Perahia, Angela Hewitt, Sokolov and some more gifted pianists who I don't know yet.
It must be just as exciting when Mr. Schiff starts playing Chopin and Debussy on musical instruments for which the compositions were never intended: on the harpsichord, for example. And therefore, as in this case too, will sound just as bizarre.
Very well played but I disagree with him when he says Bach was the greatest composer. For me, if the music doesn't make you cry, then it's not the greatest and nothing by Bach does that to me. Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin and even Schubert however, are in a different class.
What an asinine remark. Thankfully, making one cry isn't the criteria that truly educated music listeners & scholars use to assign value and merit to composition.
00:01 Praeludium
01:53 Allemande
05:08 Corrente
07:57 Sarabande
12:17 Menuet
14:55 Giga
How about mentioning the first movement?
@@remomazzetti8757 done
😊i
Last gigue truly is gigantic
@@remomazzetti8757absolutely no need lol
Maestro! No bobbing around and gurning to the angels. Meister Schiff just sits there and plays. Superbly.
he does duck face tho
In that regard reminiscent of Artur R.
@@rochelimit55555Your remark has the level of your capacity of expression.
@@felixsinniger280 your remark has the level of capacity of your smugness
@@rochelimit55555 Thank you for your generosity !
God put JS Bach on this earth to write this heavinly music. Then he put Andres Schiff on this earth to interpet it. Incredible. So amazing.
I thought it was Zeus
Whatever Zeus… I could, potentially, agree with you. But what on earth are we here, on this earth, for?
Probably to listen to Bach!
I think some people ought to have special dispensation from suffering any sort of unhappiness,and this gent is one of them.
How much love he spreads around!
My favourite teacher took me to listen to him decades ago,and I'm so grateful she did.
DId you ever wonder how much/little Andras Schiff uses (damper)pedal in Bach? at 00:54 and forward you can see the whole line of dampers and they go up (pedal) when there is a beautiful chord to hold in a legato-language.
This is what makes this rendering of Partita 1 so beautiful. -- I have played it so and so (not admiring myself) and finding it beautiful to use the pedal where you otherwise would need to play staccato or short-tenuto.
Only Bach, and not Bach warped by the pianist. A contemplative experience.
Not warped. But interpreted, yes.
Lol. This was written for harpsichord. The use of legato is an insult
?? Harpsichords can be played with legato or non legato
Каждый день благодарю БОГА , что ОН подарил нам это ЧУДО постижения
Прекрасного, Гармонии Мирозданья!! Гений Андраша Шиффа и Его Уникальные Мастерство и Дух приближают нас на мгновение к Вечности, к Божественной Красоте Мира!!
Благодарю за СОВЕРШЕНСТВО МАСТЕРА!!!❤🎉
Sublime, unsurpassed. These partita recordings are treasures bringing so much happiness and joy into this world. Here also in the most beautiful surroundings. Thank you, Andras Schiff!
Beautiful !!!!! Thank you Maestro Schiff !! We love you ....
Bach, and Bach only. Heavenly. András Schiff’s Bach interpretations bring more joy and beauty than any other performances of Bach today.
Perahia, Sokolov, for instance.
IMO impossible and unfair to even try to rank any of the acknowledged great Bach interpreters. We are all privileged to have heard and seen them all.@@TheSoteriologist
@@rsjmd I am just making sure he hasn't missed those. It was him who fabricated an apparently objective assessment out of his personal preferences, not me.
Yes, I suspected that was your intention. Personally I feel all 3 are beyond criticism of any sort...thanks for the reply@@TheSoteriologist
@@rsjmd It‘s a tragedy that Janina Fialkowska didn‘t play more Bach !
I love the venue, the beautiful paintings on the wooden walls, the flowers, the black and white floor, the big windows (probably from Bach's time) behind the performer and outside, the best work of art ever created: nature ... And of course, the composer (the greatest of all) and the masterful performance... (the Gigue.. that was something really special...) 🌹
It‘s a portrait of QE I, called the rainbow portrait, and it‘s a little older than Bach.
He is a great Alchemist of the piano embodying the musical aesthetics of Bach
This is one of the greatest keyboard pieces ever created. Every note is perfect and the counterpoint is mind blowing. I first heard this in a Dinu Lipatti recording from 1950 and have loved it ever since. This is great music on a level so high that no composer since has been able to match its contrapuntal genius. The Gigue at the end always blows me away, especially the second half with those amazing harmonic changes.
I think Schiff's interpretation is much better than Lipatti, sacrilegious as that will seem. Lipatti's tempo is rather too fast, almost dismissive, and whilst I have not heard it for many years, does he play all the repeats? I think Schiff loves the music more.
@@jeremyd1021 Maybe the Italians play too fast?
@@stephenjablonsky1941 `Lipatti was Rumanian.
@@jeremyd1021 I probably knew that 70 years ago, but thanks for the reminder.
Vrhunski tumač Bachovih dela!
My favorite keyboard partita. I love the precise music-box delight that is the gigue, as well as the prelude, etc.
My favourite interpretation.
Simply stunning!!! Bravo!!! Thanks for sharing this gem!!
atemberaubend, kann es immer wieder hören!
Nice to see him using pedal. He once said " When performing Bach, Schiff avoids using the sustain pedal, following the advice of renowned harpsichordist George Malcolm (1917-1997). “He told me not to play Bach with the pedal, but to play it with your hands and not with your feet.”
Like Horowitz, Sir Andras has perfect control of his hands - a blessing of a lifetime of playing the piano. Another beauty in his phrasing is the delicate nuances between the volume of each note in a line, instead of the terrible hammering that many pianists indulge in.
Two great pianists !
Maybe the greatest difference : Andras Schiff's repertoire is much much broader.
@@felixsinniger280another difference :Horowitz could play much better
@@marksmith3947In which respect ?
I cannot see any superiority in Horowitz, nor technically nor mentally.
His repertoire was far too small, maybe because of his mental problems sometimes and the dull ambiente at home.
@@felixsinniger280 if you can't hear that Schiff is not a proficient pianist you should have your ears tuned. In his specialities he offers something worthwhile, but the lack of technical brilliance and varied sound palette puts him far from elite level. I personally find Schiff dull but inoffensive ;that other people appreciate his playing is normal variation of tastes. But to compare Schiff with any real virtuoso is too big a stretch.
@@marksmith3947 Here in Europe Andras Schiff is considered maestro number one on J.S Bach, and this for decades.
He has studied the music of Bach every day for nearly 60 years.
Who is able to perform the 6 Partitas or the 6 French Suites in one concert ?
Most of the pianists don't have the capacities of memory as Andras Schiff.
Of course you might see him the way you like.
Most people who like the music of Bach prefer him to any other pianist.
Breath taking.
Uno de los mayores pianistas y músicos de su generación.
Diese Interpretation kommt der legendären Wiedergabe durch Dinu Lipatti im vorigen Jahrhundert zumindest sehr nahe. Sie hat mich ein Leben lang begleitet. Leider war die Aufnahmetechnik damals noch unzureichend. Aber man hatte den Eindruck, die Musik komme aus dem Jenseits. Für dieses Jahrhundert ist Andras Schiffs Interpretation gültig.
user-jF6. Your words... THE TRUTH !!!!!!! YOU have a Great mind and a beautifull soul too !!!!!! THANK YOU !!!!
An authority on Bach.
THE authority on J.S.Bach, to my mind !
so accurate and so calm at the same time
juste splendide merci
Ingenious performance
Wonderful. Thank you.
So beautiful!
Kees Torn stuurde me hier. Bedankt Kees! ❤
Schiff holds an unchallenged position as an interpreter of Bach
This performance is unrivaled by any other performances
Sokolov. Please do not decide for others which performance is better or worse.
@Wasnovak
Thankyou
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@Wasnovak and yet you're calling people who disagree with you uneducated.
I fully agree !
@@felixsinniger280
Thankyou
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The subtle rubato is one of A.S.'s master touches. Along with bringing out the different threads beautifully, masterful dynamics and naughty but nice use of the pedal. Though I am surprised at just how MUCH pedal he uses in the Praeludium. He almost makes the whole movement legato...The Corrente is brilliant. The speed he plays it at is insane! But perfectly balanced. So fluent and masterful, I could barely believe it when he actually dropped a note (but who cares?).
I doubt if he uses so much pedal in the Praeludium.
His technical capacities allow him using not much of the sustaining pedal
So the video of the dampers regularly going up and down from about 1:27 to the end are just my imagination? @@felixsinniger280
The fluency and naturalness are two of the great attributes of his playing.
Obviously Andras Schiff uses much more the sustaining pedal than he did for many decades, but he uses it very softly.
I think, he still uses it much less than the majority of the pianists with the compositions of Johann Sebastian Bach.
His good taste will not leave him !
True. I like his use here.
Always a pleasure and a joy.
Really making the piano sing.
Bless Schiff!
Quelle merveille !
Very nice Maestro, thank you! 🥰🤩😘
Perfect!
LINDO!! DIVINO!!
THE MESSANGER is in YOU MASTER !!!
Hatfield House, Herefordshire, England
Hertfordshire
Hatfield indeed! I visited that place a very long time ago (1999) 🤗❤
Bravooooooooooo!!!!!
Thanks for the posting-immaculate as usual from AS...where was the performance filmed please?
AMO O SOM DO PIANO!!
Steinway & Sons, New York, NY
@@janbonsema5888It seems that Steinway is an apropriate piano even for the compositions of Bach.
For classical and romantic music Andras Schiff normally prefers Bösendorfer.
@@felixsinniger280 the other day I viewed Elenea Nefedova interpret on a Boesendoerfer half grand with this exquisite cristaline sound and after that I won't criticize the Boesendoerffer any more. Thanks your reply on e mail
2. 1:55
3. 5:08
4. 7:57
5. 12:17
L9😂😂😂😂😂
LINDO,LINDO!!
Dos gigantes frente a frente.
Duelo de titanes
❤️💕💕💕
❤❤❤❤❤❤
save from brazill
Ate
❤
Grazie
But when this music was written they didn't even have ringtones and the piano wasn't yet a thing..... therefore the sublime alchemical uplift of this performance is somehow invalid?? For you maybe but most people just love the music.
(To whomever may feel that way, irked harpsichordists etc)
So good lolllllll
Where & when was this recital given?
Hatfield House. When?
It's in the description, May 2021.
Ich kenne die Aufuehrunegn von Gieseking und Lipatti ; Ich glaube Sie spielten von eine Partitur von anderem Drueck mit u.a. weniger Verbindungs trillos im Sarabande
looks like Bach 😅
デビュー時と何も変わってないな。
Can we get this recording on Apple Music please?
Such nice playing. If instead you want a sparkling performance with original insights, try Sokolov playing the same piece, or to be blown away, there is of course Gould. (I know I won't make friends here by saying this, but please do compare this to other recordings and others.)
Andras Schiff plays the music of J.S.Bach.
Gould played Gould : experiments in the cold studios.
17:09 there always has to be an applause moaner spoiling reflection doesn't there...applause in general is gross and weird.
There needs to be a substantial moment of silence after the last note is played. There is a good reason.
It has to do with the vibrations in the air that remain after the music stops. The music is still radiating outward, outward and it needs a space of silence to move into.
The cacophonous beating of hands, the rowdy applause, beats it back and obliterates the afterglow that is absolutely necessary for the FULLEST enjoyment of the music.
The music needs to be surrounded by silence. That way, it can be heard better. It's like clearing the palate between courses at dinner. At the end of a piece, the audience should hold back their enthusiasm for a few seconds. Let the music melt away
5:47
He skipped Menuet II??
I think he included I and II under "Menuet".
Transition at 13:35 ?
@@TheSoteriologist not sure how I missed that. Silly me.
What the Actual rizzler is this like this fanum tax
Schiff is a master of his craft and probably the best Bach interpreter alive. Though I have to say, Sokolov plays those pieces better. All movements are better executed by Sokolov, sound clear and more precise.
Perahia, Sokolov ...
No.
Everyone has his preferences.
To my mind, great interpreters of J.S.Bach are Andras Schiff, Murray Perahia, Angela Hewitt, Sokolov and some more gifted pianists who I don't know yet.
It must be just as exciting when Mr. Schiff starts playing Chopin and Debussy on musical instruments for which the compositions were never intended: on the harpsichord, for example. And therefore, as in this case too, will sound just as bizarre.
Bach didn’t know modern pianos….but I think Debussy did know how harpsichord sounded-can you see the difference?
Very well played but I disagree with him when he says Bach was the greatest composer. For me, if the music doesn't make you cry, then it's not the greatest and nothing by Bach does that to me. Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin and even Schubert however, are in a different class.
Then the problem lies with you, for if you aren’t moved to tears by Bach, you have no soul.
Crying is very overrated.
What an asinine remark. Thankfully, making one cry isn't the criteria that truly educated music listeners & scholars use to assign value and merit to composition.
ridiculous comparison - centuries apart. Like comparing Dixieland to Bebop (if you know what that is…)
The Vienese Classic has its origin from J.S.Bach : Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Schumann ...
Andras Schiff knows too much !
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