Fairy Godmother - Shrek's Perfect Antagonist: Beauty, Happiness and Attractiveness (Shrek 2)
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Looking at Fairy Godmother in Shrek 2, and the ideas of beauty, happiness, and attractiveness.
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Lacassagne, A., Nieguth, T., & Dépelteau, F. (Eds.). (2011). Investigating Shrek: Power, Identity, and Ideology. Palgrave Macmillan.
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Thompson, J. K. (2005). Shrek, Attractivism, and Appearance Stereotypes: A Make-Ogre Fairy Tale, or Happily Ever After Redux? PsycCRITIQUES, 50(3), 20-.
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Bro you needa do more Naruto story's & philosophy that shit smacked 👌
How did you comment 3 days before this video came out
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Maybe you can do a video on Prince Charming and the delusion of a happily ever after next? Not right away, but I'm willing to watch it. And wait.
Even when Shrek turned human, she still treated him like an Ogre.
I dont remember who did it but i watched a video comparing fairy godmother to a terf and hoooo boy is the comparison apt
@@motorcitymangababe Nobody needs your wokeness here.
@@spyrofrost9158 nobody asked you terf
@@motorcitymangababe I'd love to watch it. If you remember, please share
@@joanabarreto4189 i searched for it and i think this is the video
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Fairy Godmother sung the best version of I Need a Hero during one of the greatest film climaxes ever. That’s definitely worthy of respect.
Facts.
True
She was lowkey fine tho
@@y.o.s6000 im not arguing against that bro🤣😂
“Her workers don’t even have dental” that’s pure evil!
That’s all the more horrific in this day and age.
@@nate742 actually it’s worse back then
It’s a fairly tale
She’s a appearance changer and no matter what the beauty standards were or are healthy teeth is a main stay
Hearing that line made me wheezed
Even Shrek who doesn’t use dental himself is disgusted.
shrek's head is massive. but he is beautiful
Yes
His hands are what's massive! He could probably crush a human head with one hand!
He's gotta big brain ok
@@spikeyferret8613 And a big heart
his love is stored in his skull 🥺
I like how she tries to make "happy endings" and stuff like that but she couldn't control shreks in the end and harold caring for his daughter.
She couldn't control true love at the end of the day.
Love isn't to be controlled.
The best part is that she needed pawns like Harold and her immense workforce to Try, and fail to get her and her sons "Happily Ever After". That is assuming that she really cared about Prince Charming. We don't really have an indication on how she truly viewed her son or where his dad is, although it is possible that she used magic to make him instead of conceiving him like normal.
"Beauty isn't decided by the character. It is designed by Fairy Godmother." *- Sages Rain*
Dang how can I ever trust Sages Rain again.
Literally shaking right now
This movie to me even more so is more heartwarming and sad than the first. Shrek while befriending the fairytale creatures still is looked dowm upon by humans. He is still viewed as being an ugly monster as undeserving of love despite compared to the Fairy Godmother and Prince Charming who have ugly souls. All the while Shrek's new father in law does not respect him despite he himself basically having been in the same situation as Shrek by not being human and using magic for love
I'm from Mexico, but have some relatives that have moved to the USA, and now they are hardcore Republicans that hate immigrants (specially Mexicans).
(I think their idea is now that they are accepted by that society they have to adapt to such society and that involves being hateful toward immigrants)
(also I had a friend from Philadelphia who has Vietnamese parents, but his parents didn't thought him any Vietnamese so people (his environment) wouldn't mock him because of accent or such)
So I think it's not at all far fetched that Fiona's dad even though is the same as Shrek now hates the idea, because of society standards.
@@briankennedy5885 But it still feels hypocritical that he would treat Shrek so horribly because of his appearance even though he was once like that as a frog.
Think about it, Harold possible felt insecure of his appearance and maybe people looked down on him cause he was ugly and despite knowing the hurtful feeling of what it's like to be treated like outcast for his looks, he still does the same thing to Shrek. It makes no sense for someone to treat someone so badly even though they themselves went through the exact same issues that they went through.
@@queenrose2009 Donkey took note of that when he said “Man, and he gave you a hard time.”
@@queenrose2009 it does when you take into account that people often project and despise their biggest insecurities
@@briankennedy5885 would my hatred of fat people count in that regard since I have issues with obesity for years and I plan on losing a lot of weight and devote my time to getting stronger and I plan on starting after new years
One thing I love about Shrek and King Harold's dinner scene is that Shrek doesn't seem to care or engage with the insults to himself, but is very angry and makes pointed remarks about how the King and Queen treated Fiona. He doesn't care about what the King thinks of him, it's obvious anyway, he's angry about how they treated the woman he loves, and how they arent happy about how Fiona has loved and accepted her true form.
Man I always say,the best villains isn't the ones who can give the protagonist a beating of their lives. Is the smart ones. Intelligence will always be the strongest and most dangerous of all weapons out there
BuT cAn InTElliGenCe BeAT GoKu tHo?!!!!?!!?!?!?!?!
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@@your_dad_on_vacation someone with high enough intelligence can develop a way to break goku’s mind without throwing a punch
I love the complete irony in shrek with having the fairy Godmother instead of using actual magic and making dreams come true is instead using chemicals and stuff to make the love potion.
I like a hint of passion and like a gallon of "lust" instead of fairy magic.
SO GOOD. I also love how publicly, the Fairy is beloved like a celebrity even though she’s rotten inside. Very similar to real life.
“Magic is just misinterpretations for advance technology” Author C. Cluck
Is this a serious comment? How do you think she bottled abstract concepts like passion and lust if not with fairy magic?
The Fairy Godmother is the Dolores Umbrage of the Shrek-universe; the more "sweet" and "nice" she acts, the more I hate and despise her.
I'd kill to see this guy do work on Harry Potter, come to think of it. I think he would give Luna the love she deserved and never really got from Rowling.
@@SomeGuy-gc8zs Its T2 days before executing the ritual.
It’s funny that Far Far away is based off Hollywood L.A, and how it fits in with the theme of the story considering it’s societal standards as well.
But it also pokes fun at fairy tales for the whole “Once Upon a Time in a Kingdom Far Far Away….”.
I thought it was Beverly Hills but basically the same thing
I was happy that Fairy Godmother turned Pinocchio into a real boy.
*15 Seconds Later...*
Donkey was the first person to break down Shrek's walls. In the first part when he escaped Lord Farquhad's judgment, he always saw Shrek as a friend. (just my point). But can we talk about Prince Charming looking a little too beautiful? XD
It's like Charming got a spell or two as well.... Hmmmm
A little too beautiful ? Hell nah he looks ugly imo😭.
Fiona would never have been more than a delivery if not for Donkey.
On the same note about the Fairy godmother and body image. Has anyone noticed how the kingdom of Far Far Away looks like Hollywood. I.e. the plastic surgery Capitol of the US and seller of "what is beauty and love." 🤔
I always notice that when I rewatch it, it's such a neat detail!
It makes perfect sense!
Yes exactly still the very same today. Lots of influencers or celebrities on social media showcasing how their bodies are on point = happiness.
Another thing that makes this film so incredible.
Quasimodo from the Hunchback of Notre Dame could relate to Shrek. They were both seen as monsters by society, but managed to pull through and get accepted by everyone in the end.
Except Quasimodo didn't need to find a true love to be happy and accepted (I mean he does find love in the sequel, but I don't consider it canon), which is another great message, in addition to not having to look conventionally attractive, sometimes you just your friends and a little confidence to be truly happy, not to say finding "the one" is bad, but it can easily take a turn for the worst if one devotes too much of themselves to it.
@@Delta_Aves Well, actually, in the sequel to the Disney version, Quasimodo DID find a love interest.
The fact her workers don’t even have dental shows how truly evil Fairy Godmother is
Shrek was always good at reversing the typical fairytale tropes. An ogre who'd normally be an evil monster in the tales is a good guy, a fairy godmother who'd usually help people forces people who don't love each other into relationships and wants to take over Far Far Away, Prince Charming, unlike the heroic princes is a narcissist who loves himself and a spoiled mama's boy, princesses would normally be damsels but Fiona can actually fight.
And then did the same formula again.
And again.
And again.
And again.
At this point a traditional fairytale would be a breath of fresh air, since it's been deconstructed to the point of just being cynical and hateful.
@@cursedcancersurvivor Shrek did it the best tho. Others just try to copy the formula.
@@cursedcancersurvivor actually a more traditional fairytale is a reverse of modern trends
I just wanna throw this out there, but Shrek also reverses another trope, specifically in this movie; how genders percieve beauty. If Shrek was actually in the real world, near regardless of time, Fiona should be the one worrying about her appearance, not Shrek. But here, that gender role is reversed, with Fiona already seeing herself as beautiful and Shrek being the one worrying about his own appearance. How the Fairy Godmother interacts with both characters displays this. For anyone saying that the reason why Shrek is insecure about his appearance is due to Fiona's parents, I ask you to first look at the line Shrek says where he says Fiona might not be exactly happy, most likely due to how he looks. I then ask you to go back to the first Shrek movie and ask themselves, why is Shrek so closed off to others? His appreance is definitely a big reason
The creation of Shrek as a whole is suppose to bash against Disney, since DreamWorks was made to be a rival of Disney.
Schaffrillas is SCREAMING right now.
I like how seriously and monotone this guy talks about Shrek.
Wow I've never expected a video like this from Sage's rain and this proves again of why Shrek 2 is the greatest movie sequel of all time.
Tbh, I like Shrek 1 more.
@@superstarultra28 IMO, sequels are usually not as good as the first movie. But at least this one was actually still pretty good. ;-)
Shrek is timeless.
Fairy Godmother's employees don't even have dental.
Me: 😂😂
I was laughing when Fiona threw Ariel towards the sharks. 🦈🦈
I seriously hope Disney didn’t sue the crew for that.
But also, the scene is a reference to From Here To Eternity.
Imagine if Fairy Godmother convinced Shrek to file for a divorce.
I don’t see why fairy godmother is so wrapped up about beauty considering she’s the one that cursed Fiona to begin with
Good point. But I think she does so, so that the man that saved her doesn't care about her appearance
my theory is that she did it so that no one would 'love' her until her son arrived. She assumed it would work because Charming had the advantage of knowing that he just needed to arrive and kiss her during the daytime, and Fiona's esteem would be in such shambles from the experience that she'd stay with him.
So like a very calculated attempt at stripping away Fiona's independence from other's expectations and Fairy Godmother's vision of beauty to such a degree that she'd be unable to say no, and play it off as a beautiful fairytale romance.
@@Theresa-uj4le i think your arguments makes alot of sense.
It makes sense. She locked her away with that curse so that her son could rescue her and she would marry him. Fiona's father traded this curse for the spell that allowed him to become human instead of a frog.
Plus, it reinforced this idea of physical beauty. Do you remember in the first film how desperate Fiona was to lift her curse? She demanded Shrek remove his helmet so she could kiss him (until she realised he was an ogre). She demanded setting up camp so that she would not be seen as an ogre by Shrek and Donkey. She insisted on getting married to Farquaad the same day that she met him. If Charming had rescued her, her desperation to lift the curse would have been enough for her to marry him. It was very calculated from Fairy Godmother and very consistent with her own ideals of beauty.
But obviously, things went very wrong when Shrek rescued Fiona.
I heard somewhere someone theorized it was basically like an arranged marriage in a sense the fairy godmother curses Fiona her parents lock her in a tower n eventually a prince(aka her son) would rescue basically she was playing the waiting game for a perfect moment to give her son a beautiful royal wife practically gift wrapped, of course shrek interrupted that unknowingly
"Ogres don't live happily ever after!" *- Fairy Godmother*
They do now
“Evil witch! You are you are wrong! Good-hearted hero ogres like Shrek and Fiona do live happily ever after! Villains of pure evil like you are the real ones who don’t live happily ever after!” -
This movie is a masterpiece. Too bad some people dont take it seriously enough. Since it is a kid's movie
Which is funny becuause it's a family movie, for everyone.
I still love the movie but didnt know it had a hidden message lol i just flowed or vibed with it but i did some how know what the moral of the story is without knowing or any idea what it was about lol
@Sofia Dominguez What's your problem?
It's not a kid's movie, it's a family movie.
well said @@NoriMori1992
Shrek is love.
SHREK IS LIFE
She can do everything but not having your employes don't have dental that's monstrous
Shrek 2 will always be a great movie to watch as an adult, because of all the decent jokes I didn't get as a kid obv. Also goddamn, did not expect this man to do a great analysis of it
2000's Dreamwork was just special man
Yes yes yes!!! Shrek Two was Amazing and the Fairy Godmother was the Perfect villain for Shrek! She has such charisma and power while also having this warped way of thinking.
She was a Villain that truly viewed herself as the hero that would torment or slay those that didn't see the world how she's it🔥🔥
The Fairy Godmother is one of the best DreamWorks and animated villains of all time,I hope and pray that in the future this channel makes a analysis of Ramsey from Prince of Egypt,Rumplestiltskin from Shrek Forever After,and Titan/Tighten from Megamind,also Kai from Kung Fu Panda wouldn't hurt.
I hope he talks about The Lion King, the original version that is.
@@dhivaansalig6398 Agree Lion King and Lion King 2 are the best in the franchise with the sequel being my favorite,although Lion Guard was the worst thing that ever happened to the franchise like the live action abomination.
Kai was the weakest Kung fu panda villain.
@@featherguardian6023 I agree! I _hate_ Lion guard so much.
@@redpanda6497 Well Kai at least was funny,J.K. Simmons voiced him,and he did show how dangerous his,but yeah in a way he's the one of weakest villains of the franchise and it did feel rush and yeah Lion Guard was awful,terrible,and insulting to Lion King lore.
Shrek 2 is one of the greatest sequels of all time imo. It gets better with time and it's a shame that it doesn't get the credit it deserves as a great sequel because it's considered a kids comedy.
I rather have Cosmo and Wanda as my Fairy Godparents.
Fairy godmother is the most Karen character in the DreamWorks universe
At least she’s a Karen with great music taste.
Word literally has no meaning nowadays, that is not even the right definition
That word lost all meaning once it became a slur against white women.
@@lordofthered1257 okay Karen
@@OhNoTheFace wdym. She throws a tantrum when her "sweat little boy" does not get the girl and she does everything in her power in order to make sure he gets with fiona.
One thing I really like about the Fairy Godmother is the fact that the film heavily implies but never outright confirms that she is the witch that cursed Fiona.
Shrek 3 was so close to being an amazing movie as well. The main plot with prince Arthur is what really brought it down. If they just focused more on the villain uprising and the struggles and insecurities of becoming a parent it could have been just as engaging and thoughtful as the first or second movie.
Thank god shrek 4 is better than that movie
I liked Arthur’s story
What did Dragon look like when Donkey turned into a Stallion?
Probably a Pegasus.
Good questio?😵
Nothing.
She didn't take the potion.
@@cursedcancersurvivor But the potion effects both the drinker and their true love and Dragon is Donkey’s true love!
there will never ever be any force strong enough to stop me from watching and genuinely enjoying every single video that analyses the unironic greatness of shrek
"In order to be happy you have to look a certain way" that unfortunately bleeds a lot into real life. A lot of real people are willing to sell their soul to be beautiful.
Blame the media they brain wash people from a very young that that if you arent skinny, beautiful, or have valuable riches society sees you as worthless. They say that if you attain all this stuff youll be happy. But thats just THEIR own idea of what happiness is and they push that narrative onto others making it seem like we asked for this. No YOU made us ask for this by telling us that were ugly, undesirable, shaming us for not having idealistic lifestyle. We were made to feel like this was an obligation.
I'm stuck in bed with food poisoning and have been just marathoning your videos. Not only is your voice great to listen to and not make my headache worse, but the content of your videos are just so well written and expand how I think of movies be it the characters, themes, etc.
Thanks for having such great content, so glad I subscribed to you
so nice to see it whenever people like this and schaffrillas talk about shrek is actually a super deep movie that's proudly misunderstood like the character himself
This man can make anything poetic
It is also suggested by the Fairytale that Fairy Godmother is the Witch who cursed Fiona in the first place.
So the Godmother created the standard, breaks the standard, and then resets the standard, at a price.
I love your videos. I feel like I'm becoming a better writer through them.
Another excellent video, Sage. And coincidentally, as I wanted to hear it too. On Sunday it occurred to me that Fairy Godmother might just be the one who cursed Fiona in the first place so as to play the long game in her schemes for the throne and I couldn't stop thinking about how cunning she was and how I went years without realising it. This video arrived at the right time for me!
When I first watch the shrek 2 movie I hate the fact that shrek and fiona want to be ogre. Especially since fiona is very beautiful as a human but after watching it as a teen it make more sense to me why and make me love the movie even more.
While watching this video essay, I couldn't tear my eyes off the fabric in these movies. Like Fiona's dress at 3:13 or Fairy Godmother's dress when she's in the light at 0:44 till 0:54 or at 2:41 for a closer look. They are so detailed, simple yet pretty. Seriously, a lot of effort went into the designs here and it's not lost on me.
I like the unique theme the Shrek Universe presents. Many of our stereotypical Fairy Tale Protagonists are shown in a realistic Villainous Light where they are just a bunch of scummy opportunists. While our many stereotypical Fairy Tale Antagonists are show in a Human yet relatable light where they are just a bunch of people trying to fit in the world they’re in. I’m a fan of stories where the Demon is the Hero, while the Angel the Villain.
I do like any other normal human being. I see "Sage's Rain" and I click 👌🏾😎
Love your videos so much... such a unique aesthetic
I think that the biggest aspect of how great a villain she is, which you neglected to mention, is that the movie heavily implies that it was her who put the curse on Fiona to begin with. Possibly something she had decided on ever since she gave Harold his chance at a happily ever after. So she was planning and manipulating Fiona's life path before she was even born
@Sofia Dominguez Well yeah. Shrek is a fairy tale spoof so of course it subverts that
This is beautifully made. I also see similarities between the fairy godmother and joy from inside out
Shrek confirmed best anime movie series.
if u ignore the third, it is
man im black and i didn't even notice that even DONKEY turned white until you pointed it out!
I always thought as a bit of a headcanon this fairy godmother was always like the ambitious younger sister of the fairy godmother from Cinderella considering that Fairy Godmother just gave Cinderella that little push to be herself
I think so too.
I could see Fairy godmother as being the sort of antagonist Doug Walker would be fond of as someone insidious who does so with authentic one-sided intent, control and (for now at least) doesn't have those elements diminished b/c of a backstory or prequel which paints them as being motivated out of being misunderstood in their life (Walker's opinion of the live action versions of Maleficent and the recent take on Cruella, to an extent)
Seeing how far far away is supposed to be Los Angeles. There is definitely a meta commentary on plastic surgeons and superficial looks dominating the masses.
I hope you also do shrek forever, cuz i think it shows a different side of fiona, not as a princess but as a martial artist and revolutionary
Love the video bro! It's amazing that a film we loved as kids, still has taglines & narratives that are prevalent in every day life. Thanks again, and I can't stop watching the video on Red Hood!
Omg!! You used one of my favorite musical pieces as the background music!!! Yesssss😄
I love Shrek series. It really has great lessons. Shrek will always be my favorite dreamwork movie.
Honestly? I love how a husky Fiona tosses a slim Ariel (the outliner between human and fictonal beast) into the ocean. She's saying, "go find your own Prince this one is mine". Don't get me wrong, I love all those stories as much as I love shrek. To me? Fiona and Ariel are both beautiful woman. Just like most of Disney and DreamWorks movies are amazing.
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i love how in the emotionless sea of words in this video, sage sounded so genuinely hurt and offended that the workers didnt get dental
Even remembering that the workers don't even have dental another great video by someone who clearly loves the series. Thank you sages rain.
The King didn't care about Shrek. He cared about not being turned back to a frog
“DON’T YOU POINT THOSE… *DIRTY* GREEN SAUSAGES AT ME!”
Anyone notice that the Fairy Godmother treats Fiona like a human, but treats Shrek like a monster?
Yeah, and it’s because she wants Fiona to break up with Shrek and marry Charming so he can be king and share the kingdom ruling power with her.
Sage rain; makes videos about emotional anime moments and dc animated shows
Also sage rain: S H R E K
Shreck has a insane deep meaning
It is a surprisingly well written show given it's goofiness
Well it makes perfect sense,Shrek is best anime hands down,so good in fact it took the moniker of number one anime from Cory in the house
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It's my favorite from you with how it still kept the tone and atmosphere... and irony because you bring up security after all that talk of insecurity.
thanks for your amazing videos, every time i am in a melancholy state i return to one of my favorite youtube videos ever "To Fear Love". Thank you very much
Recently took my GRE. Wouldn’t have gotten through essay writing without the hours of listening to Sage and his videos
And having the film set in a parody mirror image of Hollywood adds to this a lot. Given how the industry has long had a history of being and acting like Fairy Godmother
I'm glad you're getting sponsors. For the effort and thought you clearly put into your videos, you deserve to get paid.
As for FGM and Shrek as a villain and a hero and as counterparts, the appeal for me is much simpler. Shrek, externally, is kind of a jerk. He's rude, he's crass, rough about the edges and maybe a little too straightforward and honest for his own good, aside from his appearance, but on the inside, he's still fundamentally a good person who, for all his griping, wasn't willing to actually remove the fairytale critters from his swamp in the first film, went out of his way and sacrificed his own happiness for someone else's in the second, and did everything in his power to save the kingdom in the third.
FGM, on the other hand, has impeccable manners and pretends to want to help you. She'll flatter you, and even her criticism comes oh so politely, but underneath that thin veneer of civility and good will is a woman who just plain doesn't give a fuck about anyone, not even her own son. The jerk with a heart of gold and a polished turd, respectively.
Fun fact! I Need a Hero is layered with the Shrek original music track played when Dragon is chasing everyone! So it’s not just a cover, they put more work in it!
I love the contrast between your calm voice and the rain and then the fact that you’re talking. About *Shrek.*
This makes me appreciate Shrek 2 so much. Thanks man :) appreciate you and your videos!
Work can wait, sage just uploaded
This video really deserves much more views.
💗Beautifully done. Great job!💗
You can’t let the world or others define beauty for you
Your videos are a gem!
apparently for shreks design they took inspiration from a bulldog in order to make him ugly but still appealing to the eye
Your videos make my life so much deeper. Thanks
The Sir Justin poster still gets me. 😆
My God. I love this channel
Shrek 2 is my favorite shrek movie in the whole franchise
This is the best Chanel everrrrr!
Great video. On top of all that you said, the Fairy Godmother was arguably the main antagonist of the entire Shrek series. Everything she did affected the series as a whole, and made many of the plots and subplots possible in the first place. Also, it helped that Jennifer Saunders absolutely nailed it with her voice acting.
I literally JUST watched this movie yesterday!
Can your next villain analysis be of Ramses in The Prince of Egypt?
Awesome video. You know, I had always figured, that Fairy Godmother pointed out that ogres never lived happily ever after, in original stories.
Fairy Godmother is a nice twist, while you think she will be a nice fairy like in the fairy tales... instead we get a beautiful surprise that she's a manipulative, ruthless and evil person. And that's really cool, and i really like how she sang "I need a hero" plus in that red dress, damn they did a good job with this one.
Note how she never acknowledges Beauty and The Beast, since that would go against her whole agenda.
love it :) your chanel is gold
This is in my top 10 movies of all time. I love Fairy Godmother top 3 dreamworks antagonist ever
this video made me tear up
I really don't remember Shrek 2, (kinda decided that I like the simplicity of the 1st) but after this, I'll watch it again.
Its really neat how subversive this is, as usually it is female characters who have to learn to love themselves despite what they look like, but Fiona seems to have learned this before Shrek.