OK, who took away all the grip from practice? | RF2 LFM BTCC at Knockhill
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That’s not a monsoon, that’s a standard Autumnal Scottish day !
And Welsh. At least here on the West coast. What idiot put the Irish Sea there?
That’s what we refer to in the country in the states as “a cow peeing on a flat rock”.
Loving the RF2 content. Keep it coming!
"ah look, ruining it for everybody, you absolute pillock". I'd cut in front of a Brit just to hear the insults lol.
Great race. Love the mix of your video box, audio levels (we can hear the car, track and Jim) and your commentary. Not nonstop talking, but a comment when one is needed. Very good.
Your content is only seconded by your opening clips, which are god tier!
That´s the charm of a very wet track, suffering with joy. Extremely clean race for such bad weather, great job all.
I'm by no means a setup expert, but for wet setups I pull the brake bias as far towards the back as I can before the car is too unstable (this part is really crucial in FWD cars), reduce the camber, flatten the rake and soften the anti-roll bars. If those tweaks don't quite cut it, I soften the springs and add more downforce. In this particular race, I think some diff tweaks were needed, too. I don't have this particular DLC (here's to hoping it will be on sale on Black Friday) so I don't know what exact adjustments are available, but it sounds like you need less lock on coast to reduce off-throttle understeer. Diff power seemed fine, 'cause I generally would never use 1st gear in the rain in a touring car and taking the last corner in 2nd gear gave you OK traction on exit.
Three things I hate in cars: drum brakes, automatic transmissions and front wheel drive.
I believe the theory for wet racing setups is to back off the anti-roll bars a ways and bring the spring rates down some, too, in order to avoid "chatter." You won't have as much grip, so high stiffness and ultimate weight transfer become liabilities, not assets. Some fooling with tire pressures might give good results, as well. The water on the track will tend to keep the tires from retaining a lot of heat, so slightly higher pressures should help the tires to maintain equal contact across the contact patch. And if you've got aero, max it the hell out, especially on a twisty track without long straights. But you probably already knew all that.
Yes Mister Cameron, a Front driven Car with a good diff likes a little bit of throttle in the corner. Also in iRacing.
Looked a lot of fun that Dave, great drive that, a very difficult mix indeed, I'm really loving Rfactor2 again, I love the historic element to it more than anything though, another highly underrated sim this like RBR... can't beat a bit of touring car though hehe...
Managed to pull off a last-to-first at wet Knockhill in the Corolla earlier this week. Did a few dry races as well, great mod, up to S397 standards really, which says a lot considering how brilliant S397 tracks are.
Thank you, I took way too long releasing it so I'm glad people are enjoying it
Thank you mate. It's incredible 👍
@Donat Prodan hu mate can I ask where do I find the licence serve for Rf2 LFM. For the life of me I can't find the server I need to join to do my licence and get into rookie? I've asked so many but no one has replied. Lol
@@Simlife101 if you mean like on ACC to get a license, you don't have to. As soon as you sign up, you're a rookie and you can start racing in any session that allows rookies. You do 10 races, gain enough SR and ELO and you're out of rookie.
Great race Dave! the immersion is fantastic what a race!!! i think in the rain front wheel drive is easier to keep on the road the problem is that the wheels spin up to 3rd gear and that makes you lose a lot of time not easy!
Looked like torture, but this video has just convinced me to pick up rFactor 2. AND they're putting in Croft Circuit which is my local and I would imagine your local track. I'm really excited to drive croft. I need to get triple screens on my rig!
tough but fun. Thanks!
Nothing better than a good online rain race!
I gotta give this sim another try. Went for some practice seat time last weekend and everything is super counter intuitive. Could not even set up a virtual mirror.
It can be PITA sometimes, but the driving and racing experience is really worth the initial trouble
yeah I uninstalled the game before I even got to drive at all, whenever I decided to give rF2 a try some years ago. It seems to be designed specifically to make everything as obnoxious as possible, in an effort to keep simracers from enjoying it
I was laughing so much. Thx Dave. I was defo on WETS and just drove the dry set up I use and the dry line. Nothing special. Tbh I would have been worse than you in a FWD car though. RWD in the wet is so much more natural
Hahaha, thank god for that 😂
I was thinking "don't think I've ever driven around Knockhill" but then I recognised the chicane. Yeah, I did, on AC ages ago. I know of only one circuit that has a more awkward chicane than that, the completely blind chicane at Anglesey Circuit.
is that chicane on a historical layout? I don't see any chicane on the images google shows me
Hi Dave, notice your pit window going a bit crazy at the start of the race. I had this issue also and it’s due to crew chief, it has a setting that auto resets your pit request to all off I believe so you can set it during the race. I found it very distracting it flickering away at the race start but even worse is when you pit thinking it’s set and all they do is add fuel!
Oh Dave I can imagine all the carnage that is going to take place when/if rain ever comes to iRacing!
All through that race I was thinking you should probably been a little more careful on the throttle and doing a lot more short shifting to higher gears on corner exit to try to keep the traction.
You lose traction on FWD as the weight goes to the rear away from the drive wheels.
It was enjoyable to watch nonetheless so well done on the P5 finish. 👍
It’s a real challenge to keep the rears up to temp and overdriving the fronts. You were gaining on 1-3 until the tyres started falling away. Dang enjoy the channel 🤙
Actually there is no need to keep rears up to temp, they do pretty much nothing. Focus on the fronts.
@@rakoczyn Really easy to overheat fronts IRL. Hard to tell in sim. I’ll agree it’s more important to keep fronts in an optimal temp though as they do all the braking turning and accelerating
There were no pedal input indicators, so it was difficult to see if you tried this, Dave: how about trying to gently slide the car into corners? I'm not simracing, so I haven't been testing it myself, and I'm not quite sure if this is something that works in race cars, but in FWD rally cars the drivers would normally persuade cars into corners on slippery surfaces by turning the wheel and then pressing the brake while holding the throttle. This works basically like a very gentle handbrake-turn effect: the car should start rotating quite easily. You adjust the angle of the rotation by the right balaning act on the pedals. There's no real threat of spinning, because whenever you feel the car is overrotating, you just step of the brake and quickly add plenty of throttle -- this should straighten the car up immediately.
Again, just an idea to test.
I love the entrance haha
how good is the BTCC RF2 just love it
Slippery one Dave😝👍
No way Webb was on mediums, anything more wet than damp and you're loosing time on slicks.
Tips in driving in the rain in RF2:
Max wing, you want those tires being pushed down in to the road as hard as possible. Also, as you can't push the front wheels in to the tarmac as hard under braking, you want to set your brake bias back quite bit.
Re: title - To quote the great Mac Evad “Thats what she said”😂
So this is what the UK looks like. It's even more rain than they said lol
Best sim for TCC?
When will we see more tense oval iracing Dave? Think you could fly the flag for Blitey
Hey marra. There's an E. Marra 😁
Jim needs a Support group
Hi Dave! Do you mind sharing your ffb settings for rf2?
I was in this race and it was my least fun race I've ever done in any sim!
Couldn't touch the power in the Infiniti without losing it
Yes! Why the grip gone for this rookie map and car? lol.
As someone who lives 20 minutes from Knockhill, I can confirm that this mod isn't very accurate. No way does it rain that lightly at the track! ;-)
Great video as always, Dave. Might check this mod out as it looks really good.
Driving in the wet in this game is like driving on ice
yes, just like in real life
In America being a "pole sitter" is literally the last position
I got to put some time into RFactor2, this looks amazing fun 👍🏻
If you take an hour to set things up, it's definitely worth it 👍
@@davecamm fancy doing a vid of your setup Dave? and how to get sorted on LFM?
Use p2p on the straights or uphills after you got traction.
how good does rf2 look in the rain?
While racing in the wet, take the outside line, it might seem less fast but it is actually faster because you have most grip there if you are not on wet tires. When I race in the wet I up the traction control by a bunch and really make use of trailbraking. I go slower in the beginning because i'm more cautious and finding the limits of track and car without spinning the wheels on every corner, in the end you'll really get a move on
@Dave Cam Dave is it possible you van check if LFM is down. Went to try it for the first time just and the site seems to be down.
Nope, working for me 👍
@@davecamm owe there it is lol thank you mate.
I can’t tell Dave we’re you using push to pass?
I'm almost buying rf2 because of you 😂
yeah i'm just hoping for a black friday sale
these cars are difficult and rain is even more difficult
PCing down 😂
So how does this looks like with RF2, if I get it, are there enough online races going on I can join?
I’m Raceroom currently but the numbers just keep droping, its depressing.
Yes it's super popular right now although there are currently no servers setup for the morning in the UK. But, pretty much all afternoon and evening 👍
The rain drops went away before the wiper hits the rain drops.....
It's that Scottish rain. 😁
lol, tbf I have seen this happen in Assetto Corsa once as well
was Webb driving the whole race on mediums as told by your crew chief in the beginning?
if so that's pretty bad wet simulation, daves car looked realistic but if he had mediums then that's broken
@@WhippyWhipGaming thats why i m asking... i think i will drive a race tonight at knoxville and would be interesting to know if he stayed on mediums and drove to the podium... but than it would be broken... i too think dave´s wet driving was realistic and it would be a shame if Webb was on Mediums ;-)
I'm pretty sure he must have changed them again
nah, he's in the comments here saying he was laughing his ass off watching this cause he was on wets (sounds like he loaded his dry setup and then changed to wets)
Soften everything up lol
Where were you, David? I was worried about you!
Sunny Spain 😁
2nd 😁
First Comment Love the videos!!!!
imagine how slippery iracing will be in rain 🤣 especially the grass, rf2 new content does look impressive, shame about the way you have to buy everything thats used in a race to be able to join instead of just one car, it's about time they modernised the hud too, looks like a 90's game hud, tbf to the leader the relative doesn't say who's ahead on track so he wouldn't have known you 2 were battling or not
I didn't see you use push to pass? You've 10 seconds each lap. Need a button mapped (edit, ahh you mention it later in the vid)
Yeah the info window is hidden behind my webcam 👍
I dunno if it's the track, the car, the game, or the way you have it set up but it's weird ONLY being able to hear your engine; not the other cars, no suspension noises, no kerb noises, no rain, not even much in the way of tyre noise. It's very odd
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wow, you really need to brake later and turn in later too. but entertaining content
Easier said than done 😁
Why is everyone playing rFactor2 all of a sudden. Didn’t they just stop supporting this title?
Disaster 😅😅😅 no FF again please. AWD next time please DC