Is Fascism Left or Right? Debate Is Fascism a left-wing or right-wing ideology? Fascism Explained
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- Fascism is a very popular political ideology. But is it a left wing or a right wing ideology? In this video I’ll provide 5 arguments for both sides and let you decide whether you think Fascism leans more to the left or right.
Arguments for Fascism as a Left-Wing Ideology:
1- First is Economic Intervention. Some argue that fascist governments historically have intervened heavily in the economy, blurring the lines between public and private sectors, a characteristic often associated with left-wing economic policies.
2 - Next is the Social Welfare Programs. In certain instances, fascist regimes implemented social welfare programs to gain support from the working class, resembling left-wing efforts to address social inequality.
3- Third is Corporate-State Collaboration: Critics argue that fascism involves collaboration between the state and corporations, challenging the notion of a purely free-market economy often associated with right-wing ideologies.
4- Fourth is Populism and Mass Mobilization: Fascist movements often appealed to the masses, utilizing populist rhetoric and mass mobilization strategies, traits that some associate with left-wing movements.
5- Lastly, is Collectivism: While fascist regimes maintain hierarchy, they also emphasize collective identity and the subordination of individual interests to the state, aligning with left-wing notions of collectivism.
Arguments for Fascism as a Right-Wing Ideology:
1 - First is Authoritarianism and Order. Fascist regimes advocate for strong central authority, order, and control, aligning with traditional right-wing values emphasizing law and order.
2- Next is Nationalism and Traditionalism. Fascism often promotes extreme nationalism, emphasizing cultural and historical traditions. This connection to national identity and heritage is a hallmark of right-wing ideologies.
3- Third is Anti-Communism: Historically, fascists boldly opposed communism, reflecting a shared stance with the political right against socialist and Marxist ideologies.
4- Fourth is Conservative Social Values. Fascism tends to uphold conservative social values, including traditional gender roles and opposition to liberal or progressive social changes.
5- And lastly, is Military Emphasis. Right-wing ideologies, including fascism, often emphasize a strong military and national defense, portraying strength and dominance on the global stage.
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It completely depends on how left/right is defined. Fascism itself was a socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism, adapted from Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism. It also cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State. As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
What are you on? The nazis privatized as much as they could, killed communists and gave away property to the rich
@@Prororo _"The nazis privatized as much as they could"_
Wrong. They privatized absolutely nothing. It was never a thing in Nazi Germany. On the contrary, they nationalized most if not all of the German industry and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party. They called this nationalization as "Gleichschaltung", a system of totalitarian control and coordination over all aspects of German society and societies occupied by Nazi Germany from the economy and trade associations to the media, culture and education.
@@Prororo _"killed communists "_
And? Both Lenin and Stalin did the same thing after the October Revolution. Your point being?
@@Prororo _"and gave away property to the rich"_
Wrong. Property was controlled by the government and NSDAP members.
Original right wingers were supporters of absolute monarchy. Right wing is not about free markets or democracy. It is about traditionalism.
thanks bro its very helpful and educative too
Regardless of right or left the USA is NOT fascist & never will be as long as we are able to live under our amazing constitution - what we MUST END as Americans is dividing as citizens - there is no perfect liberal way nor conservative way. When America works both balance each other & we citizens never promote division those who do need to leave. Freedom is the balance of both left & right. PERIOD
African Americans and Native Americans definitely lived under the pointy end of this amazing constitution that you talk about. Whether you would object to the way these groups were treated as being an example of fascism is a matter of how you define the term but even if it wasn't fascism in the strictest sense, it sure got close to it.
The constitution does not guarantee a balance between right and left. And the constitution did not explicitly curb the powers of the federal government enough. Thank god for the bill of rights, but the constitution is not perfect in any means.
The United States are an Anocracy, officially.
Properly understood, neither. The leaders of true Fascist regimes writ large claimed to represent a Third Position that scrutinizes the old Left and Right framework while often bringing in dissident segments of both sides. It can be articulated in different ways, but leads to very similar results. Sometimes as a rejection of a conventional understanding of politics in those terms, a synthesis of fundamental elements from both sides of the coin or an all-encompassing pragmatic philosophy that takes from any part of the spectrum as it pleases. As is reflected in the words of some of the biggest Third Position leaders:
"For me all these names of Left and Right, of Conservative, Aristocracy and Democracy are so many empty academic terms. They serve occasionally to distinguish, but more often to confuse." - Benito Mussolini
“National Socialism derives from each of the two camps the pure idea that characterizes it, national resolution from bourgeois tradition; vital, creative socialism from the teaching of Marxism.” -Adolf Hitler
"Fascism was born to inspire a faith not of the Right (which at bottom aspires to conserve everything, even injustice) or of the Left (which at bottom aspires to destroy everything, even goodness), but a collective, integral, national faith.“ -Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera
“Our third position is not a centrist position. It is an ideological position that is on the center, on the right and on the left according to particular circumstances.” -Juan Peron
“The Right seeks stability, but denies the power of adaption which makes stability an active force. The Left seeks progress, but rejects all effective instruments and robs authority of the power to make decisions.” -Oswald Mosley
These videos are really informative, keep up the good work 👍
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It’s where far-right and far-left collide. One could come to it from both sides of political circus
Can you make a video about comparison between absolute monarchy, constitutional monarchy and elective monarchy
Another great video. I've always liked how you explain different topics in a simple, understanding, and unbiased way. We need more people like you in today's media and politics. Keep up the good work.
Indeed!!!
The one major flaw is your argument that authoritarianism is right wing. While this has been a popular notion among some schools of academia for decades, empirical analysis shows this is false...as does historical regimes like the USSR, Cuba, North Korea, China, etc. As is also the case about militarism...the USSR, China and North Korea being completely obsessed with military dominance over the world. After 70 years of communist rule, everything in the USSR was inferior to the west technologically, and civilly...with one exception: machines of war. They were obsessed with it.
According to Mussolini and Gentile in the Doctrine of Fascism, Marxism was opposed not because of the aims of a communist utopia, but rather on the grounds that said collectivist utopia couldn't be achieved without total control. As F.A. Hayek pointed out in the Road to Serfdom, the reason we see both left wing and right wing authoritarianism become so indistinguishable, is because the aim of total control is necessary for central planning. If even a single individual chooses what they want to eat, that choice cannot be predicted by the central planners, and as such, makes it impossible to centrally plan. Mussolini recognized this and, unlike Hayek, who suggested that this alone shows liberalism as the answer, Mussolini suggested the total control and suppression. He fractured the Italian Socialist party in order to split it into them and the Fascist party:
Mussolini didn't disagree with Marxism or socialism at all...at least in terms of the end goal of a collectivist utopia. Rather, he simply disagreed with the methods to achieve it...and recognized that such total control required a national identity that was a population, not of individuals, but one.
"Grouped according to their several interests,
individuals form classes; they form trade-unions
when organized according to their several economic
activities; but first and foremost they form the State,
which is no mere matter of numbers, the suns of the
individuals forming the majority. Fascism is
therefore opposed to that form of democracy
which equates a nation to the majority, lowering it to
the level of the largest number; but it is the purest form
of democracy if the nation be considered as it should
be from the point of view of quality rather than
quantity, as an idea, the mightiest because the
most ethical, the most coherent, the truest,
expressing itself in a people as the conscience
and will of the few, if not, indeed, of one, and
ending to express itself in the conscience and the
will of the mass, of the whole group ethnically
molded by natural and historical conditions into a
nation, advancing, as one conscience and one will,
along the self same line of development and spiritual
formation. Not a race, nor a geographically
defined region, but a people, historically
perpetuating itself; a multitude unified by an
idea and imbued with the will to live, the will to
power, self-consciousness, personality.
A nation, as expressed in the State, is a living,
ethical entity only in so far as it is progressive.
Therefore it
has chosen as its emblem the Lictor’s rods, the
symbol of unity, strength, and justice.
Reformism, revolutionism, centrism, the very
echo of that terminology is dead, while in the great
river of Fascism one can trace currents which had
their source in Sorel, Peguy, Lagardelle of the
Movement Socialists, and in the cohort of Italian
syndicalist who from 1904 to 1914 brought a new note into the Italian socialist environment -
previously emasculated and chloroformed by
fornicating with Giolitti’s party - a note sounded in
Olivetti’s Pagine Libere, Orano’s Lupa, Enrico
Leone’s Divenirs Socials.
If the bourgeoisie - I then said - believe that they
have found in us their lightening-conductors, they
are mistaken. We must go towards the people.... We wish the working classes to accustom themselves to the responsibilities of management so that
they may realize that it is no easy matter to run a business..." -The Doctrine of Fascims, Benito Mussolini and Giovani Gentile.
The notion that fascism is right wing stems from Mussolini himself, in which he described it as such, a return to state control like feudalism, from the liberal enlightenment.
Whether fascism is right wing or left wing is simply the wrong topic...and a distraction from what the real divide is: Liberals and collectivists/authoritarians.
Can you make a video about the comparison between federation and unitary state
This alone tells me to walk away from your channel. This is unacceptable ignorance. There is no debate about the far right wing nature of fascism. Anyone who both-sides something like this has no clue WTF he's talking about.
I know what side I think fascism belongs to, but in my videos I don’t tell people what to think. This is a simply bringing two arguments together and letting the viewer decide or do their own research.
@@IllustratetoEducatewhere do you think fascism belongs?
Can you make a video about the comparison between federation and confederation
How can it be in favor of welfare and anti free market but also be ani socialist
Does it in different ways.
Hitler was big on social programs but did it for causes that benefitted his beliefs. For example, he wanted a strong and well populated Germany so he offered money for every child born in a family and for each child that money would increase in amount so to encourage growing the population.
He paid for youth centres famously known as the ‘Hitler Youth’, you could send your children to youth centres to learn skills and to grow to be strong adults, so you could have free time and also have time to work, however they would learn skills that Hitler approved of, learn traditional values, and learn to support the regime.
Socialism doesn’t just mean welfare programs. Full socialism makes the entire economy public property. What the facists would do is allow the free market to do its job, assisting it by giving sectors of it money to promote the parts it wants, and then tax it so it can afford social programs. This is essentially how the majority of western countries are now run. Mainly because financially it works. This in itself does not make a country facist, it’s just something countries have adopted. The libertarians disagree with it on moral and philosophical grounds, not on utility of it.
There are no fully socialist countries, nor are there really any fully capitalist countries. Even Communist China adopted more capitalist aspects to its system because the fully communist version was killing people.
Libertarianism is often considered right wing but this is only true in the most simplistic sense. If you draw one line down the centre and that’s it.
Really, true right and left wingers both dislike libertarians, and libertarians dislike left and right wingers. The left and right want an outcome and to differing degrees of intensity are willing to use the government to coerce their way to that end. Libertarians may agree with either side’s end goal, but say that the end does not justify the means and it must get there naturally. That’s not a position natural to human beings, as has been quite clear from the last 10 thousand or so years, humans are naturally quite divisive, and so a ‘no do it my way or else’ attitude is adopted on both sides, and it’s why both sides often lead to the death of millions at the extremes.
Because socialists want to build an egalitarian society that eliminates hierarchy and makes everyone more equal. Fascists are anti-egalitarian and want to build a hierarchical society of leaders and followers that's based in social Darwinism and elitism. Supporting welfare and economic intervention alone doesn't make one a socialist....
@@bradley4706wow well put together. I'm libertarian at heart.
@@noway12510 I was a hardcore libertarian, however over time I’ve learned some of the criticism of it that I agree with.
My political philosophy standpoint now is the same as people should have with their stocks and shares portfolios. Diversification.
If you have one leg to stand in and it fails, you fall, if you have many smaller legs to stand on, if one fails then you stay upright.
Federalism, separation of powers does this. So I think a heavily libertarian standpoint is best with some socialistic policies and some conservative policies here and there to try and balance things, with restrictions on how far these things can go.
It is a form of socialism, it's just anti-Marxist socialism.
could you do a video on the difference between authoritarianism and totalitariansim
I could definitely work that in very soon. Next month or two.
@@IllustratetoEducate thanks, earned yourself a new sub
Can you make a video about what is stalinism
Can you make a video about what is soviet democracy
How are you defining Left or Right? Are you using a definition arising from European politics or the adaptation to American politics? Neither of those are rational spectrums; they would actually be arbitrary in assignment of values if the assignment hadn't been originated in political agenda to begin with.
In this video, you claim authoritarianism is Right, but you clearly consider Communism to be Left, since opposition to Communism also is Right, according to you. But Communism IS authoritarian, in fact Totalitarian. Where would you put Libertarians on your scale, Right or Left? The problem with the terms you're using is that Left and Right as commonly used try to put multiple variables all on a single linear spectrum. Communism may be egalitarian but it is also Totalitarian.
I find the best usage of Left and Right is actually the Authority-Liberty Spectrum. It tracks a single variable and coincidentally lines up with American politics fairly well. Extreme Left is Totalitarianism, Far Left Authoritarianism, and Left Statism (centralized authority). Extreme Right is anarchy (total liberty), Far Right minarchism/libertarianism, and Right Constitutionalism/limited governments. It's worth noting that even modern American Conservatives largely fall under the Left category.
Communism is not authoritarian
@@edgierthanthou It's Totalitarian
@@RexFuturi no? How is radical democracy totalitarian?
Libertarians and anarchists are movements which both have left and right wing factions. The right wing is perfectly willing to restrict your freedom if something more important to them is at stake, and there are many things that are more important to the right-wing, at least the right wing of the USA, than freedom. And to them, these things rarely feel like freedoms are being taken to begin with, as the name conservative suggests, most live in such a way that they are unlikely to be affected. Even if they notice, compartmentalization of conflicting concepts is human thing, neither a left nor right wing, unless you let pundits rot your mind so thoroughly that you appear to think the other is a different species. And none of this addresses the sorts of calculations or mental gymnastics where taking one sort of freedom away is argued to promote another.
This is less to be le even handed, horseshoe centrist and more to say that for your own sake, do not make such sweeping statements about these people when you attempt to define them. They will gladly attack you from the margins that you distract yourself from in order to paint this pretty picture.
@waltmarcum7098 you're looking at parties, not ideologies. Social conservativism is not the same as political conservativism. Social Conservatives, the religious fundamentalists you reference, are politically authoritarian. You're using loaded terminology instead of actual political/philosophical theory.
I also did say that most self-proclaimed conservatives are on the authoritarian Left.
Can you make a video about what is Leninism
The only part I think is questionable is the central authority being tied to the right. It seems apparent that in the U.S. a primary concern of the right is reinforcing the 10th amendment and sending power back to the states that has largely been usurped by the federal government. Alternatively, the left seems to want top down rule with their social and economic policies applied across all states.
Of course it's a bit gray, with both parties having certain issues that lead them to want more central authority, but as a whole it seems that is part of the left wing ideology.
This is because the terms Left and Right are politicized in themselves, and the Left has largely been in charge of the definitions and assignments of which ideologies are on which side. The generic usage of Left and Right should be avoided as much as possible.
I prefer the Authority-Liberty Spectrum for Left and Right. One clear variable, minimized politics, and it still seems mostly applicaple to modern politics.
How is it questionable? Right and left wing were born in the French revolution. Monarchists were right wing and revolutionaries left wing.
Tenth amendment? What does the document written by slave raping racists have to do with anything? The US is not the world.
@@RexFuturi But how will that work? most people, including in both parties, think their way is the default, n any1 who disagrees, is the authoritarian aggressor who infringes on liberty.
if marriage is 1 man 1 woman, then the L G B T n their supporters are the authoritarian aggressors. if opposite gender should be removed from the list of requirements for a marriage requirement, then the Republican Conservatives are authoritarian. if Government should have 0 role in marriage, then all who disagree are probably all non libertarians who are the authoritarian aggressors.
what you're saying begs the question on what quantity N QUALITY of laws, n enforcement of them, is the correct amount n type. If Democrat liberals want more Gov in economics, but less on social issues, but Republican Conservatives want it the other way around, then by your definition, they're both authoritarian n liberty based at the same time!
the only way around begging the question here, is likely finding whatever the supreme being's supreme moral code is AKA God given morals n law.
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@airplayrule Unfortunately for everyone on the Left and most on the Right, ideology does not come into existence from nowhere. Liberty has meaning; the theory of rights comes from something. People can think whatever they want, but most people are wrong, especially about modern political theory. Very few people screeching about rights even know what rights are.
Authoritarianism also has a definite meaning. And it isn't "someone disagrees with me."
@@airplayrule In your example of marriage. Marriage is actually not a right. In the US, marriage HAD a meaning and officially recognized purpose. There were court rulings on it going quite far back. Marriage in the US is merely a state-sponsored civil union. It has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with economics and social prosperity. Nor is marriage about love. It's not about how anyone sees marriage; it's about what marriage legally was in the US. The courts overthrew all that to signal something entirely unrelated to the civil union of marriage.
Interesting video, but I think populism is found in both left as well as the right. MAGA and Trump are a huge example of populism in the right today.
The military is a big part of the left as well. Especially the 20th century socialist examples.
I think his 5th example in both slides was his weakest.
Populism is a force that was unleashed by the Left but has come to be channeled by the Right.
How is trump or maga, populism?
@@Raspberries9372populism is not a party or a movement, it’s a strategy.
Populism like so many other terms have been completely redefined.. And I do think populism is a better characterization than nationalism because of the original definition and socialistic ties nationalism inherently brings. But the original definition of populism was really a strategy of politics focusing on the people over, for example, doing what’s best for the elite
every political movement is fascist. the nature of fascism is collective action and a belief in the social, which is rooted in the idea that individual power is not sufficient to protect individuals or advance their interests. so ya, the people you think are fascist are fascist, and probably so are you
Actual word soup bro just cus JP did it doesn't mean you can too none of what you just said made any sort of sense on god i had a stroke reading with my degree in political sciences
Bottom line is when you split into two different camps.
One is a reaction against the other.
A good example is the
Spanish Civil war.
Yeah , fascism is more like the old European right-wing that hadn't yet embraced liberal economics ( they preferred interventionist economic systems like Corporatism ) and democracy , than the "new right conservatism" of Reagan and Thatcher ( which is economically liberal and socially authoritarian ) that's popular on the right-wing today ( Martin Blinkhorn wrote a good book on this titled "Fascist and Conservatives" ). Authoritarian right-wing conservatives at that time in Europe like Francisco Franco are difficult to distinguish from authentic fascists like Mussolini and Hitler.
It's also important to remember that collectivism isn't necessarily left-wing. Fascism was formed from a type of collectivist right-wing nationalism ( like that of Charles Maurras ) and a syndicalism based in Sorellian revisionism that moved to the right-wing in response to "The crisis in Marxism" ( see Sternhell's "The Birth of Fascist Ideology" ). As Stanley Payne notes , fascism was born from two types of collectivism: right-wing nationalism and revisionist syndicalism. The modern right-wing is economically individualistic ( maybe just social Darwinist ) and anti-individualistic socially and culturally ( they don't tolerate individualism in things like gender expression , sexual orientation , people that don't assimilate into the dominant culture , etc. ).
But overall , fascism was collectivist but also social Darwinist , hierarchical , patriarchal , nationalist , socially conservative , elitist and anti-leftist , so it's basically right-wing populist ultra-nationalism.
American politics. Left=more govt right=less govt.
Fascism is Third Position. Elements of the right and left but not strictly on either side.
I always viewed Fascism as economically and socially more left-wing or centrist, due to the implementation of socialist welfare programs, state capitalism, and the idea of collectivism for the good of the state, while both being ideologically and politically far-right for favoring extreme nationalism, the ethnic majority, militarism, and disregarding the ethnic minority. You also bring into account the social programs only favoring the ethnic majority. Nazism is the more extreme of Fascism, where the ethnic minority is eliminated. Authoritarianism and Totalitarianism also play a role in Fascism, however they also play a role in extremist authoritarian left ideologies, like Stalinism. We also have National Bolshevism, which isn’t that popular, but employs the ideologies of Fascism/Nazism within an economically Communist system. All in all, garbage ideology.
If we are American asking is fascism would be on the american left or american right then fascism is clearly left wing. It has to be. The right in USA is about individuality, small government, libertarianism, religion to some extent. The usa was originally very individualistic and very un governed. Conservatism is dependent on where you are from. To conserve what. In the usa its to conserve individuality, small governments, property rights etc.
Fascists value none of these things. They are anti freedom, they take rights away. They are anti property ownership. The left pretends they're not saying they have private owners but those owners have to work for the state. Thats not private ownership, thats socialism/communism with a workaround.
Fascists want to censor speech (left)
Fascists want to control people (left)
Fascists think in terms of groups not individuals(left)
Fascists want redistribution of wealth(left)
All authorianism is left wing. If were looking at things through a right and left lense.
If america never had a fascist leader, never came from fascist values. And the right are conservative. How could any amount of conserving original american values lead to fascism. It cant. The extreme right ideologically is almost anarchy in the form of extrene libertarianism. An extreme form of you do you. The wildest wild west.
First thing said on the right side was a miss representation. The idea that the right values law and order is not related to authoritarianism. It depends on what laws exist. If the law exists to protect peoples freedoms and rights being stoked on law and order doesn'tq make you a fascist.
Look up a thing called 'horseshoe theory'. Both extremes of left and right end up being fascist. That is why extremists hate moderates accusing them of being a RINO or DINO. I am a moderate myself and often end up being the target of both the right and left.
_"Both extremes of left and right end up being fascist. "_
No. Both extremes end up in Anarchy.
Call it what you want Anarchy, fascism, or being authoritarian, they are all pretty much the same thing... THE END OF OUR SOCIETY AS WE KNOW IT. And we are in the bleeding kansas phase now!
Civil War is Anarchy.@@_Historia_Magistra_Vitae
Egalitarianism and hierarchy are not *both* fascist
I disagree. You have to be moderate and neutral to see it!! If your own POV is not in the middle, your own bias will not allow you to acknoledge that Fascism exists on the LEFT and RIGHT! Mussolini began his political career as a distinguished Italian socialist. Fascism’s most direct ideological inspiration came from Italy’s most radical Marxists ‘subversives’. @@Gluonz
So economically left but socially right???
Doubt it, they would have competing interests. Left wing economics requires huge amounts of govt power and being socially right would demand less govt intereference in individual and familial rights and lives.
@@greattribulation1388 less goverment intervention is not inherently right. That is only in the USA
fascism is when a movment uses violence to achieve its goals
socialism: total/majority collective/public control of the means of production (economy)
capitalism: total/majority individual/private control of the means of production (economy)
in fascism, does the State control the majority of the economy?
Mussolini: "Everything in the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State."
(the State is a collective)
I would argue with this but the fact that you defined socialism almost entirely correctly means I won’t; good job
He was a student of Giovanni Gentile was he not,a well known late 1800's socialist fascist.
He skipped over a lot of the right-wing economic policies of fascists. I recommend reading “Blackshirts and Reds” by Michael Parenti.
_"He skipped over a lot of the right-wing economic policies of fascists. "_
Such policies do not exist. Fascism was and is antithetical to right wing. It was a far-left, socialist 3rd position movement.
How are national socialist economics helping people pursue individual goals? Isn’t it all about the goals of the state?
Hell yeah brother✊
Great book on the topic!
Am I crazy for simply seeing it’s both?…
People confuse fascism with Nazism fascism is right wing whereas Nazism is more central
Not according to the doctrines of fascism, Hitler defined his fascism with 5 doctrines of socialism, 2 communist, 1 centrist and the nationalist doctrine which needs 3 of the socilist doctrines to enforce it
Spelling Correction: Fascism
Both Fascism and National Socialism were far-left, socialist 3rd position ideologies.
Emphasizing law and order when it’s convenient, and calling it a witch hunt when it’s inconvenient.
Good video but its so crazy that being proud of your country and patriotic about it is considered a "right wing" issue.
But as the way the democratic party is going you named 5 for 5 on the current government for fascism is left wing. So its an ideology thats being utilized by the left right now.
The right sounds normal to me
Fascism can be both left and right.
Law and order is not dependent on a central authority.
Corporate/State collaboration.
Look at the military industrial complex in the US.
Maybe, it’s a combination of both.
True. I think a lot of people confuse left and right wing economics and left and right wing political ideology. Most facists have been very right wing in terms of social ideology and have used left wing economic policy to gain more power and convince the population to give them total control. It ends up not being a good representation of said economic system in action.
Yes.
2:16 seems irrelevant. Progressive societal change, like takes on homosexuality were denied in Marxist, Fascist, Monarchist and Democratic societies alike.
there is literally no debate here fascism is just about the furthest right you can get, any argument that it’s even remotely left is genuinely absurd
Wrong. Fascism had nothing to do with right wing of any kind whatsoever. On the contrary, it was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
Based on what exactly? Based on the fact we for some ridiculous reason spent the last few generations calling it right wing with no real explanation as to why?
This video itself highlights there are valid arguments for it being left wing as well.
In practice, Fascism is an ideology which can be adopted on either side within certain contexts, however, looking at it objectively, especially if you have a strong understanding of modern ideologies on the right, fascism is more compatible with left wing ideology.
It is however more reasonable to argue it's neither right nor left, just inherently wrong and something all people should aim to keep out of our own societies.
It's as far right as you can get
You are among the only sensible men in the comments box, bro.🤝
_"It's as far right as you can get"_
Wrong. That would be Anarcho-Capitalism. Fascism was a far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology.
No problem@@SB_2000
did you just assume everyone's gender?! @@SB_2000
Wrong.
It’s on the right.
No. Fascism was on the far-left.
Thank you for removing bias as much as possible.
Fascism isn't the real issue. It's authoritarianism. We should spend more time talking about Freedom vs Tyranny than Left vs Right.
Your definitions are completely messed up.
All you are doing is muddling what Fascism is, buy pointing out it is authoritarian and how some Communist countries were also authoritarian. You are leaving out the main complaints against Fascism.
2:24 You meant to say "sex"
No, they meant gender
Both... neither.
It all depends on how you are defining the left-right spectrum, which is subjective. There isn't an objective political spectrum that you can't point to as political ideologies are too complex for that.
it depends. Left wings ideologies basically wants a central and big government role while the right wing ideology prefers that the government has reduce role in society.
@@maximilianogarciachirinos3663 to some extent. Right wing ideologies are generally very militaristic and enforce religion, hierarchy and racist policies, even though they may be in favor of deregulation of markets.
@@majorisker That is a fallacy. Right wing ideologies cannot enact racist policies as well have a hierarchy because their premie is individual rights not collectivism or utilitarian policies like left wings policies.
@@majoriskerRacism is not left x right, it is about race. And the most militaristic societies are communist (soviet and china) or fascist. And calling the right racist is a strawman and makes zero sense at all
I love your impartialness
Didnt know law and order was only for the right?
These days it's both, it became a term for authoritarianism in general
Thats only so fascists can try make it an insult instead of a red flag. Fascists like Putin and Trump are nothing like authoritarian socialist leaders like chavez or Castro. Both are terrible but how they trick the masses are different.
@@anfinsons Correction: Chavez
Excellent explanation and well argumented. However, I will argue that all of the arguments but anti communism can be also attributed to Soviet era communism/socialism. Most likely Fascism have its roots in left wings policies. With regards the argument of corporativism is basically cronyism and doesn't have anything as you well explain with free market economy and fair competition.
free palestiane means same like anarchy and rule of the mob
I’d say that wanting a strong central authority is a left wing idealogy, not a right wing one. Nationalism is also a purely leftist thing. And fascism is not anti-communism. That’s what the man who made is Mussolini was very close with Hitler.
So most of the things you associate the right wing with are actually left wing in my opinion.
you don't have much political bias compared to others
i respect the videos you make because it is very helpful to help determine which is propaganda and which is true
He is pretty liberal so he is biased to the right but at least it’s not straight up praising genocides
@@Prororo I think you meant to say he's biased AGAINST the right, not TO the right.
Nothing is more interesting to me than see facism being on both parties. It really makes you think that if someone has some key ideologies from facism, is that a bad thing? Thank you for the learning process. 😊
Is that a bad? Read some history book. Spoiler Alert: it's BAD
@eileennovak1656 Well yeah, I know it's bad, but what I mean is it's interesting to see there are some similarities with what we have now compared to facism. Especially the fact that it's on both sides
fascism isn't on both parties, there might be traits that make it seem fascistic but those would just individual traits. (Example being authoritarianism)
@@Pioneer_DEI was just saying it's cool to think about. Cool you jets man. It's not like I'm saying it's a good thing 😂
I didn't claim you said it was a good thing lol, I just said what you describe as "fascism on both parties" are just common traits (of authoritarianism, which isn't exclusive to fascism, just because something is wet doesn't mean its water)@@BB-fv1jd
Wow
I think you missed the mark on several pints with this one. Central control, censorship and intolerance of thought are all left qualities.
Fascism is a right-wing ideology. I don't know why more recently more people started saying its left-wing, for example, collectivism isn't inherently leftist because it can tie into the nation and culture. I wouldn't call populism left wing or right wing, unless its stated to whom and what the populist appeals to. (If it was ONLY/MAINLY the working class then it it could be considered strictly left wing, but Fascists often appeal to various different groups of the population.)
_"Fascism is a right-wing ideology. "_
Wrong. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from Georges Sorel. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
_"I don't know why more recently more people started saying its left-wing,"_
They have always said it. It is a historical fact and a very well known fact before and during the WW2. It was the USSR during and after the war, which spread the propaganda that not only is Fascism the same thing as National Socialism, but also that they were supposedly on the right... while neither are.
_" for example, collectivism isn't inherently leftist because it can tie into the nation and culture. "_
Wrong. Collectivism is specifically and inherently leftist. People on the right advocate for individualism and believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount and the role - and especially the power - of the government is minimized.
_"but Fasc ists often ap peal to various different groups of the popul ation."_
Fasc ists were strictly stat ists, and advocated for class collaboration. As said by Muss olini himself;
_“The Sta te exis ts for all the people, but is also above the people, and, if necessary, against the people. It is against them whenever they attempt to place their particular interests above the general interests of the Natio. It is the purpose of Fasc ism to unify the Nati on through the sovereign St ate, the State which is above all and can be against all, because it represents the moral continuity of the Nation. Without State there is no Nation."_
"They have always said it." No they haven't The far left hates fascism for a reason. Fascism hates the far left for a reason, because Fascism is far right. You're in denial@@_Historia_Magistra_Vitae
I like how we debate if fascism is left-wing or right-wing, but one of the points is that it is anti-left-wing (communist). LMAO
because left wing is only communism? left vs right in economic sense is collectivism vs free market, then fascism is 100% left wing. Best way to explain it to the toddler will be fascism as socialism for the national, while communism to be socialism for international
_"but one of the points is that it is anti-left-wing (communist). "_
Being anti-communist is not the same thing as being anti-left. Fascism wasn't anti-left, it was a socialist ideology.
@@_Historia_Magistra_Vitaefascists were completely anti left though, they hated communists anarchists, socialists, trade unionists, and liberals
@@chandelier6811 No. They were against Marxism and against anti-statist ideologies. They were not anti left in general, and they had no problems with trade unions when nationalized.
There both left
This was very stupid...
Nazi literally means national socialist. Both rejected private ownership of the means of production. Fascism grew out of revolutionary socialism. Hitler, Mussolini, and other key figures in the fascist movement were all former socialist. The nationalism which distinguishes fascism was in large part due to the perceived failures of global socialism. The political Right today advocates for classical liberalism and those on the Left, despite bandying the word about for anyone who believes in common sense, aims overwhelmingly closer to fascism.
You meant to write "were all former socialists"
The Nazis in no way governed as socialists. It was more in line with state capitalism. Hitler hated the communists and saw them as a threat.
@@goldenvulture6818 : No. They were former Marxists, and always remained as socialists.
@@majorisker _"The Nazis in no way governed as socialists."_
Wrong. They had a centralized government with a centralized and planned economy similar to the USSR under Stalin.
@@majorisker _"It was more in line with state capitalism. "_
Wrong. Such as thing doesn't exist and is an oxymoron. It was just textbook socialism.
You can do this with a Bayonet or a Smiley face and “three strikes & your demonetized.”
Undeniably right wing
no, its neither
Fascism had nothing to do with right wing of any kind. It was a far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology.
Historically, yes. However, the new orthodoxy is using the American government and business to curtail the rights of Conservatives. What do they call it when business and the government act in concert to get their way? I just can't remember. Allow yourself to think outside of what Professor Twila tells you to believe. I know that this is not fair. I shouldn't insult you like this. I just really want people like you to think critically.
@@UmZeNinguem-eq8brundeniably right wing
@@A_C_E_R... why, the burden of proof is on you