THANK you this was helpful and true to today's political climate. BUT check your FACTS a little better cause SOCIALISM wasn't invented by KARL MARX. IT BEGAN IN 13TH CENTURY IRISH MONASTERIES. And is completely different to today. NOT BECAUSE OF ADVANCMENT The idea of socialism has been diluted and corrupted by authoritarianism and hippies.
I think the Scandinavian countries are democratic socialist , which are a bit different than the pure socialist, this is great info that I never had in school and I like how he explains without bias the difference between Socialism and Communism. People own private property and the means of production, democraticlly elected leaders and Communism there's no property ownership the gov owns and controls everything , gives out food, transportation, housing ,etc basically a classless society, it's different from socialism. The only thing is if a corrupt leader gets in power , it would be hell but as he mentioned there has not been a real communist country ever as they wouldn't fit under the list .
@@melaniel.s8990 No, they're social democracies. It allows for private enterprises and regulated capitalist economics. It has socialist elements, but that does not make it socialism. A better example would be Rojava in Syria, where the community owns the factories and shares the wealth among themselves, the downside here is that individuals can't start their own companies without approval of their own communities.
I noticed he specifically named the communist countries AND he specifically said the Scandinavian countries are not socialist...but he didn't name ANY socialist countries. Does that mean there is no such thing as a socialist country?
All communists are socialists but not all socialists are communists. Socialism - when the means of production distribution and exchange are owned by the community as a whole rather than by private individuals Communism - moneyless, classless, and stateless society abiding by each according to his ability to each according to his need.
I mean, I hate communism as much as the next guy, but I also appreciate correct definitions. What you described as communism is more akin to anarchism, communism both supports and requires a strong state/national government in order to run.
@@zanderhandler129 Communism is actually exactly as the original commenter defined it. Socialism is the transitional period of a workers’ state before achieving communism, anarchism is simply cutting to the chase and eliminating the state in entirety. Here’s a short excerpt from the Encylopaedia Britannica and the link for further reading. “[The second stage of socialism] would be fully realized communism-a society without class divisions or government” www.britannica.com/topic/communism
@@Infamous1892 I accept that Marx said that socialism was an economic transition before communism. But he also said that about capitalism. So using the capitalist argument that that makes all socialists communists. Anyone who supports capitalism is also a secret communist as Marx said capitalism is part of the transition towards communism. I am not a communist. I am not a communist. I believe in the best of socialism and capitalism. A mixed economic system in a democratic society.. I support equality, tolerance and peace. Lenin was a communist. He does not define socialism for everyone. Just as Marx does not define capitalism for everyone.
Humanity has achieved communism before. Hunter gatherers did not have a state or currency. That fits the definintion of a classless,stateless,moneyless society.Thats why marxists call it primitive-communism.
@@Dextroverse_princess The Incan empire had 12 million citizens and had no currency. They also had a standing army and were able to provide for their citizens while also constructing roads and other massive structures. No other society has implemented Communism to this level
@@kurtcondoleon1521 You can't really base communism off of a bronze age civilization, Communism is an industrial ideology, so you cant truly base it off of communism.
The only thing I would like to add is that, when you're talking about government in the Communist part, it's not really a government in the way we see it today, but more like an assembly of people. Like the soviets in Russia were planned to be but fell short
@Jay Money this isn't a novel idea. All government and socioeconomic systems end the same way...communism. It is the human condition greed, equality of outcome, power and legacy. Tribes, Feudal Systems, Monarchy, Empire, Revolution, Republics, Democracy, Direct Democracy, Representative Democracy, Socialism, Communism and then collapse. All civilizations have followed this pattern. Socialism is the beginning of the end for any sustainable economy, government or social structure. What matters is what we are willing to fight for.
@Jay Money You see, the reason they assemble is to get stuff done... and they say their needs and what needs to get done. That is why the assemble. They wouldn't do it if it was useless. The thing about the soviets was that they represented the workers of a specific industry and city, like steel workers of Moscow or builders of Leningrad. the soviet would decide on various things in policy along with other branches of the government. This is an example of assembly in a socialist system that has happened before.
I really hate it when people say *Can communism ever work?* Like what do you mean by work? Communism is a philosophical, social, political and economic ideology and movement. For communists, a communist society, in which there is “common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money and the state” is an ideal state: that is, no existing system actually reaches that ideal. There has never been a communist country and never will be one because we are humans with biases just like there can never be a truly capitalist country either. Although communist ideas existed before Karl Marx wrote the ‘Communist manifesto’ in 1848, that document has come to represent the core ideas of modern communist ideology and movements. Marx later wrote ‘Capital’, a more detailed analysis of how the existing ‘capitalist’ system worked. His writings inspired many movements, including the 1917 Russian revolution. As a result, ‘communism’, which is an ideology, is commonly confused with the political and economic system that developed in the Soviet Union after the Russian revolution. Marx suggested that on the path towards ‘common ownership’ there would need to be a transition phase involving state ownership. In the Soviet Union, the government nationalised private property, but state ownership itself is not ‘communism’. Nonetheless, the Soviet system has become the commonly used meaning of ‘communism’. Your question probably refers to ‘communism’ in that sense. The Soviet Union’s ‘communist’ system imposed central government ownership and control (a system also imposed on other countries in the ‘Soviet bloc’ in Eastern Europe), rejected elections on the grounds that the ‘communist’ party represented the people, and used a repressive system to suppress dissenters. Its economy stagnated and it became increasingly unpopular until its collapse in 1989-90. So the Soviet system (which had gone through various stages) lasted just over 70 years, but clearly, in the end, did not ‘work’. Why did Soviet communism not work? That is another complicated question, but it boils down to an over-centralised, oppressive, bureaucratic and rigid economic and political system. The failure of the Soviet system has been widely hailed as proof that ‘communism’ does not work, but this idea is based on the mistaken idea that communism means the Soviet Union’s system. In some cases when communists have gained power, economic and social outcomes have been relatively positive. In the state of Kerala in India, where the communist party is strong and influential (often winning elections), it has helped to build a relatively strong economy, educational system and social safety net. In terms of economic performance, China, where the Communist Party rules with no other legal parties, has been outstanding in recent decades; while in Cuba, also with a one-party community party-ruled government, economic performance has been weak but social indicators (life expectancy, educational level) have been remarkably good. These three cases are examples of very different systems ruled by communists. That is, ‘communism’ is not a single political and economic system. However, the communist ideology, which argues that the current ‘capitalist’ system is unfair and that it is possible to challenge it, has therefore ‘worked’ in the sense that it has inspired people to push for social change: communists have therefore been among trade unionists using political and industrial pressure to secure fairer working conditions, and campaigners for health services, equal opportunities, and a fairer global economic system.
Easy to understand yet packed full of information, this video was truly well made, I can't wait to learn more from your channel. Keep up the great work!
@@eddyrodriguez3865 Bullshit, Giovanni Gentileza (the guy that invented fascism) was a socialist. Nevertheless, Mussolini started his career at the socialist Italian party and even said that Marx was “the best of the best”
A very enjoyable, and I believe accurate, overview of Socialism and Communism. I also appreciate there is no bias in this video regarding the efficacy of these political ideologies.
@@avalonjustin Its a lay. Socialism is economical sistem where ppl are not payed equaly, but payed value of their labor, not beeing exploitet by ownership of means of production. Communism is philosophy of life. Read some books
How many times do I have to say that a Social Democracy is NOT the same as Democratic Socialism. 1)Sweden is a SOCIAL DEMOCRACY; a fundamentally CAPITALIST system with a large welfare state. Democratic Socialism is when then means of production are owned by (realistically) the state but the people/workers have a say in how businesses are run. 2)Communism does NOT require revolution neither is socialism achieved through democratic means. Socialism is described as a post-capitalist and pre-communist state that can be seen as the transitionary state form Capitalism to Communism. Prominent examples of Socialism are the socioeconomic state of the USSR (pre glasnost/perestroika), the PRC under Mao and possibly, a more gentle version, Tito's Yugoslavia. 3) When most people today talk about "communist" countries their referring to Socialist nations run by a Communist Party. Nobody is ever referring to "theory communism" just like when people say "capitalist" they're referring to mixed economies with a prominent private sector, like the USA and not "theory capitalism". Both the theoretical versions of communism and capitalism have never been implemented and will, probably, never be. To sum up, -Social Democracy=Capitalism + Welfare -Socialism=State-owned means of production -Democratic Socialism=State-owned m.o.p. + will of the people -Communism=Moneyless, Classless, Stateless -When people talk about communist countries they're referring to ones like the USSR and when talking about capitalist countries they're referring to ones like the USA. Both terms are wrongly used but it is convenient so it's very acceptable to use them in that manner.
@@TrevJ91 Exactly. That's what he runs as anyway. I'd probably wager that his beliefs are closer to actual Democratic Socialism, but it'd be political suicide to admit that. Same for AOC
The problem is that there isn't one universal definition of socialism. Self-described socialists will argue about what socialism is all the time and you'll inevitably get the comment along the lines of "that's not real socialism"
@@gemmahudack6182 oh it’s totally fine. I appreciate the feedback. I acknowledge my videos do not contain 100% accurate information. It would take months to make a single video. Plus there’s always differing viewpoints, sources, etc and I acknowledge that I won’t make everyone happy with all my videos. All I ask is that people are respectful in the feedback which you totally were.
Pure socialism and pure capitalism both don’t work, I think history has proven that plenty of times. The trick now is finding the right blend of the two.
I believe you got social democracy and democratic socialist a bit mixed up, especially when you were talking about Norway and Sweden and the other Nordic countries
@@IllustratetoEducate Democratic Socialism is a Socialist ideology, considered a branch of marxism, where the state is a socialist sate NOT capitalist state. A social democracy is also considered a branch of Revisionist Marxism (though there is debate here). A Social Democracy is a Capitalist Society, but with social policies and welfare, and a focus on the redistribution of wealth.
So what they're pushing for here in the US is social democracy? Taking those Nordic countries as examples, I don't think it's that bad as Republicans say so. I'm a new voter as a naturalized American and I wanted to understand which party has better policies for all.
@Yahir Hernandez thank you for your simplified explanation. I married a Cuban American who was a strong Republican and I can see now why but I think it's all because of lack of knowledge and understanding the difference between social democracy and communism in Cuba.
@@IllustratetoEducate Yeah; this video was a really fabulous evaluation of the distinctions between socialism and communism, as well as comparing that to the real world of today; I subscribed as well.
I have a deep understanding of communism. Especially from the Russia (Soviet) point of view. From 1984-1986 I served an LDS mission in New York City as a Russian speaking missionary. I spent my two years working with Russians, all who had immigrated from the Soviet Union. I had many older Russian friends who were in concentration camps and had lived their lives in the Soviet system (the perfect communistic system experiment). I could write a book on the terrible strife these people lived in. But my real learning on communism was living in the Soviet Union (Leningrad) the summer of 1990. This was the summer the Berlin Wall came down, and one year before the Soviet Union dissolved. I lived the life of a Soviet Russian for the summer. It was super exciting for me. But I can't even begin to paint the picture of life under Soviet rule. The young ones of today would not believe me. You are right, Dan. Socialism is the gateway to communism. When I see the democrats pushing socialism I just can't even believe it. They have absolutely NO IDEA what they are messing with. It is scary, scary, scary. Thank you for such a powerful video.
Do you mind sharing exacting some the terrible strife those people lived in. I'm trying to understand the difference between libertarianism, socialism and communism. I want to get an understanding of what society would look like if they each of these 3.Also, if socialism is the next step to communism, where does libertarianism stand? For a while i thought i was apolitical but im slowly changing and thinking i may be close to libertarian but there are still a lot of things i dont agree with that party.
@@icreatehobbies8025 libertarianism: That which governs best, governs least. socialism: That which governs best, governs most communism: That which governs best, governs ALL. The three belief systems. I am a "least" guy myself, so perhaps my view is biased.
@@bigsmoke5494 I do not know who you are replying to, but yes, socialism and communism have murdered many more people than WWII. Mao's Great Leap Forward itself cause 50 million deaths by some estimates. Add Gulags, Pol Pot, etc. "Capitalism kills tens of milions per year (wars,hunger,climate change)" No. capitalism is an economic system. Wars, Hunger, climate change, etc. have nothing to do with "capitalism". NSA and CIA and Guantanamo also have nothing to do with "capitalism". They are "government". Gulags are indeed the same as "some" nazi camps. There were 2 types of camps. Work camps and death camps. The original Nazi "work" camps were a copy of the original soviet gulag work camps. "Death" camps, after 42 became different. The actual numbers of those that perished in the german and soviet camps will never be determined, but most believe that more died in the Gulags. Democrats may indeed believe they want "social democracy'. But the economies of Denmark, Norway and Sweden are not "socialist democracy". They are absolutely capitalist economies, considered to be freer economies than the US according to economists. "achievements of USSR". The achievements include gulags, which you attempt to justify. OK, lets ignore human misery and collapse and government against the will of the people. Compare the "achievements" to capitalist western Europe.
@@bigsmoke5494 OK. So you have no response and even though I prove everything you say is incorrect, you cannot refute any of that. I believe in CIA propaganda. The CIA has just recently helped overthrow a democratic election with propaganda. This propaganda is easy to identify, because the CIA admits they wrote it. The propaganda is also very easy to prove false. If CIA propaganda interests you, here is it best example: www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000 This is your CIA at work!!!!! This is "CIA backed propaganda media." So it does exist and does overthrow governments.
One thing to note is that Marx never wrote about "equality" as he thought that term was utopian in nature. Marxist thought is material in nature and accepts that pure equality is not feasible or even desirable.
Yes, it's important to frame communism and socialism as simply as possible, so it's easier to convince people. Once you get into the minutia of these philosophies, they fall apart and are easily destroyed in debate. By giving a very sanitized and dumbed down version of communism and socialism, it will seem reasonable to unsophisticated thinkers who've never heard any political arguments before. We've seen these systems play out, and it has always been a blood bath and complete economic failure.
While socialism meets the inherently social needs of humans, what about competition? Capitalism fulfills it, but without it, I fear that people will find a way to be cruel or exploitative to one another in some other way, like through further division between political ideologies or sports rivalries. How can this be combatted? How can our competitive sides be satisfied?
The idea is not to completely remove capitalism. There will still be rewards for achievement. It's just that with socialistic policies that would negate abuse of workers. If people had their needs met (food, housing, healthcare, leisure time, etc), then they wouldn't be ripe for exploitation as they are in the US. If you don't have to be a wage slave simply to stay alive then cooperations would have to pay you what you deserve or they wouldn't get the workers.
Socialism and Communisms suffer from the same weakness that Capitalism does. Humans are naturally competitive. They prioritize themselves and their immediate loved ones over a stranger. All three systems are inherently flawed because those who would exploit the systems always find ways to do so and rise to prominence.
I want Usa to have free health care,education,and a small retirement fund as a baseline but if you want more you have to pay more taxes or go to the private sector for better quality.
@proletarian guard can you provide some evidence for this claim (virus in UK waste of march 2019) ? I am interested in reading about that. Preferably not a bias platform or blog...
@@rodrigopaiva8911 does it matter where it came from? the fact that it started in china and the us has over 100x the cases just backs up proletarian guard's point further.
@Illustrate to Educate Actually, and sorry to nitpick, but when you say "Democratic Socialism", I think you're actually referring to "Social Democracy". The two terms are infuriatingly similar, and I've only recently learnt the differences between them myself. Democratic Socialism is a form of more moderate socialism that was labelled as such by it's advocates to differentiate itself from other forms of Socialism, like the USSR, Cuba, North Korea, that they saw as undemocratic and that they wished to distance themselves from. Social Democracy is the softer form of Capitalism, where the economic system is maintained, with the Bourgeoisie owning the "capital", but that aims to lessen wealth inequality and increase public ownership. This is what the Nordic countries support, along with politicians like Bernie Sanders. Aside from that, great video. It really helped me get a grasp of the differences between the two systems.
Wow! I was finding a good video about communism a while ago and I am grateful that I discovered this. Now I finallt understand it. I was confused with the idea of communism because I did not know there is a country that is like that but then you cleared all the confusion and questions that is on my mind by saying that there is no country that has a pure communism. Thank you! It was such an educational video❤️
@@IllustratetoEducate We talked in another thread about this,and i think u understand what socialism is. So thats nice. I also like the animations on show. Of course,i do not completely agree with this video,being a marxist, but there is definitely a kind of audience for u out there. So keep posting!! My comment was not against your channel but rather this singular vid. No hate towards you of course!!
I appreciate this video didn't justifying term but also talked about their similarities and differences this helped me to understand it more, thank you
NOT KNOCKING YOU OR JUDGING YOU but there's actually some key things wrong with this. Asking "what's the difference between a communist and a socialist" is like asking "what's the difference between a pitbull and a dog", first of all. Second, "communist state" is an oxymoron as a communist society would be stateless. There are other things but I'll suggest Paul Morrin's Socialism 101 series on youtube.
Im a socialist but not a communist. Communism would have to be entirely without corruption, theft, envy, hate or jealousy and I dont see that happening happening with the way we humans are now. Socialism however is possible and if both properly democratic yet rigid enough it would be a better system than capitalism. I dare say it would be more free, except if you wanted to be like Jeff Bezos, at which point you'd deserve those limits. Capitalism has been good at innovation and technology, so to not compensate our exceptional people for their capabilities is a bad idea, but there just has to be a limit. Also I dont believe in nationalism, I believe in self determination between cultures, but borders are absurd
Thank you for this simple, informative video. Well done with no bias. My only suggestion would be to have it at half speed to make the information easier to assimilate.
He forgot to mention they are other types of socialism beyond centralized socialism.You got market socialism,decentralized socialism,non-monetary socialism and other socialist economic theories but generally got the main definition of what socialism is.Libertarian socialism exists anyways.I give this video a pass however.
Those countries are social democratic, not democratic socialist. Democratic socialism in its purest form is actually having the people seize the means of production but the political system is just democratic.
@@badwolf9956 No matter what you call it, No one can deny that this is a working system that helps daily citizens without having actual socialism or that would cause an economic catastrophe.
@@lilithchaotc I said that, what people mean by free is when it comes to Universal Healthcare, its free at the point of when you use it, weather it be an ambulance and a hospital bed and yes this will be payed through tax payer money.
@@lilithchaotc If you mean in the context of the United States, it would be a tax cut. Public taxes would raise, but whats effectively private tax (copays, premiums, deductibles) would be eliminated, the difference being that Americans would save money on healthcare.
It is really impressive how this man draws and explains the difference between socialism and communism. He makes it easy to understand. He is a very good teacher.
I like to have opportunity and be self sufficient. I don't want a government to feed me or own the roof over my head. I don't want to support people who do not want to contribute.
I can’t say that’s not true. But for an average person who has no idea what the terms even mean at all, they don’t need an in depth explanation that dives into the original writings. Just my opinion.
In Capital, Marx begins his analysis with an already existing capitalist economy. Marx can't explain how the capitalist economy came into existence because such an economy couldn't come into existence according to Marx's peculiar analysis of the capitalist economy where surplus-value created capital must first exist, but since surplus-value doesn't exist yet, there can be no capital to begin the capitalist economy. To overcome this inherent contradiction in Marx's "investigation", he begins Capital where we find an already existing capitalist economy: “The wealth of those societies in which the capitalist mode of production prevails, presents itself as “an immense accumulation of commodities," its unit being a single commodity. Our investigation must therefore begin with the analysis of a commodity.” The "investigation" needs to begin with how the commodities came into existence, that is how the capitalist economy came into existence, an oversight necessitated by a fraud. Let's see if we can commence the Capitalist economy using the following Marxist tautology, "Hitherto we have investigated how surplus-value emanates from capital; we have now to see how capital arises from surplus-value.":* (1) What do we need to initiate the Capitalist economy? Capital, of course. (2) So let's get some capital...where is this capital, according to Marx? (3) We get capital from surplus value, Marx tells us, "capital arises from surplus-value." (4) Okay, so let's get some surplus value to get capital. Where can we find surplus value, according to Marx? (5) "Surplus value emanates from capital", Marx's tautologically informs us! ------------------------- * Capital, Chapter 24, first sentence (1867)
2:44 "...with the central government controlling ALL means of production." It doesn't matter what is tried, as long as the government has this much autonomy, it will fail
There is no state in communism, per Marx state is just a tool of the minority class to keep the majority from taking their stuff, thus in a classless society it would be irrelevant. The government doesnt determine what you want under communism, you decide your need.
Yet those that obtain high positions in the Socialist or Communist parties are wealthy while the majority are in poverty. Regardless of system, there will always be the rich and the poor.
Great video. One thing that was missing at the end was that the existing (declared) communist countries also fail to provide properly for their people and that the people have practically no say in what the government does.
They are no communist countries, just socialist ones. But the second point is just too true, half of socialists dont even consider them socialist because of this problem.
@MadGod Артур I agree, that's why I put "(declared)" in there. I should have said "alleged", to be more precise. However, I do agree with your point. One of the best example are Scandinavian countries, first and foremost Sweden. Imo
@Evan Scammell I think I can put into words to me it says "agree with us or die" ultimatums go against freedom and freedom being America's foundation has no place for a mentality like that lest we become what the colonists rebelled against
@@thedude3065 I understand the sentiment, especially having been right wing in a previous life myself, but to leftists, the raised fist simply means the throwing-off of oppressive forces. These forces oppress people of all ideologies, like the Wall Street suits or the lobbyists in the halls of congress, and the fist is the symbol of the people willing to stand up and fight against them.
@@thedude3065 I could ask the same about the current system. Millions of people die every year because of the current organization of the economy, and Americans suffer everyday because of the way our government works. The system itself says “Agree with us or die,” the system itself commits violence against the people, so who are we to stop people from raising their fists in protest, especially peacefully? To prevent people from raising their fists goes against the very idea of freedom that you claim to support.
Socialism = You don't own your business. Communism = You don't own anything. One is a bad idea that sounds great on paper to people who never owned a successful business, the other is what actually happens when that bad idea is attempted.
wow this is just the most wrong I have ever seen someone be about communism. how can people be so bold yet so wrong, what kind of delusional personality makes such wrong generalized statements when in the state of such ignorance.
This channel is very unbiased, however this video just destroyed many arguments of the far-right. Theories such as "Socialism is Communism" or "Bernie is a Communist"
Well... I don’t think communist protesters and activists in Mindanao and some islands in the Visayan region would agree. As a Filipino, most communist protesters can be found in Mindanao.
Thank you so much for this video! I have looked and looked on CZcams for someone to define Socialism for me, and while some videos have come close to clarifying it for me, your video was the easiest for me to understand by far! Thank you!
The thing is, I'm not sure you got the definitions and differences right... But I don't blame you since I feel like even in leftist circles there is confusion
Yeah that’s the thing. There’s so many different definitions out there. I tried sticking to the most “text-book” definition, which even then, doesn’t really exist.
\o/ national-socialism (the Nazi economic model) was socialism and yet doesn't fit in your definition. Why? Because both socialism and communism are umbrella terms that has VARIATIONS and, at best, you exposed one of such variations of each case.
I want to say, I think you defined socialism/communism so much better in this video than your last. I still have some issues, I think you’re defining socialism/communism as Marxism-Leninism and you didn’t mention that there’s a difference between private property and personal property. But we can’t all be perfect. Overall great video though!
In pure communism who is the boss in the central government? If no boss, who will set the schedule to do anything? If there is a boss, how are all people equal?
Communism is just good in idea . But not Inpractice because some human beings are lazy selfish and corrupt. Some human beings are born leaders some are followers. it’s hard to live without a leader if everyone thinks differently because we have intelligence and free will
Great video! North Korea follows extreme Communism which is essentially Totalitarianism. Socialism seems like a gateway to Capitalism, because there are bound to be dissatisfied individuals who are more efficient and work harder than others. Communism seems like a gateway to Totalitarianism, for obvious reasons.
@@loturzelrestaurant Ofcourse its opposes Capitalism, but that doesn't mean it cannot potentially give rise to Capitalism due to dissatisfied individuals
The problem is allowing the government control. It's that simple. In America, we have the US constitution that allows us to tell the government to eff off if we seem it is needed.
I appreciate that this is not biased but it is also not correct. In the description of Communism, everything was right until the claim that the State controls all property. This is not what Communism is. The first part of the explanation is right, Communism is a classless society where productive property and assets are held in common by all of society, by function Communism is also a post scarce society (meaning commodities for use-value, goods which satisfy human needs and wants, are in such abundance that profit isn't necessary). There is no state at all in Communism. 'Communist states' of the 20th century, and including China, Cuba, Vietnam and Laos today, all claim to be Communist states in that they are controlled by a Communist party under Marxist-Leninist ideology. Marxist Leninism states underdeveloped countries that are not sufficiently developed for socialism or communism to evolve must be controlled by a strong vanguard Communist Party which is made up of workers and intelligentsia (theorists, thinkers) to guide economic development so that when conditions are right, a peaceful transition to Socialist and Communist society can be achieved. Communist Parties are meant to ensure a safe transition to further stages of development, but those states like the USSR, are not Communist societies and nor do/did they claim to be.
The 2nd point at 3:28, ignores anarchism, and to some extent market socialism. There is little to no need for a state in those versions because most businesses would be worker cooperatives, where each worker has a democratic say in how their workplace is run.
What does it mean to have something like education "owned by the community" under socialism? How would that work practically? Vs. owned by the government...
This is a must learn course for Americans since they have been browbeaten to reject everything except American Capitalism, which, as we have seen during this pandemic, is a failure.
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Thank you. This was helpful
THANK you this was helpful and true to today's political climate.
BUT check your FACTS a little better cause SOCIALISM wasn't invented by KARL MARX.
IT BEGAN IN 13TH CENTURY IRISH MONASTERIES. And is completely different to today. NOT BECAUSE OF ADVANCMENT
The idea of socialism has been diluted and corrupted by authoritarianism and hippies.
Respectfully, your understanding of Socialism is incorrect.
Oh boy I can’t wait for this very peaceful comment section.
I keep seeing this type of comment but I have yet to see anything but peaceful
It’s a peaceful protest
Helps also when people stop fucking about with language lol
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Finally! Unbiased video clearly explaining what socialism and communism are. I like how you clarified Scandinavian countries are not socialist.
I think the Scandinavian countries are democratic socialist , which are a bit different than the pure socialist, this is great info that I never had in school and I like how he explains without bias the difference between Socialism and Communism. People own private property and the means of production, democraticlly elected leaders and Communism there's no property ownership the gov owns and controls everything , gives out food, transportation, housing ,etc basically a classless society, it's different from socialism. The only thing is if a corrupt leader gets in power , it would be hell but as he mentioned there has not been a real communist country ever as they wouldn't fit under the list .
@@melaniel.s8990 No, they're social democracies. It allows for private enterprises and regulated capitalist economics. It has socialist elements, but that does not make it socialism. A better example would be Rojava in Syria, where the community owns the factories and shares the wealth among themselves, the downside here is that individuals can't start their own companies without approval of their own communities.
I noticed he specifically named the communist countries AND he specifically said the Scandinavian countries are not socialist...but he didn't name ANY socialist countries. Does that mean there is no such thing as a socialist country?
@@seancanova7396 The communist societies are socialist. They are run by communist parties. Thetr is no communist countries.
The tax rate in Scandinavian countries is around 80% of a person’s income in order to provide health insurance, etc.
All communists are socialists but not all socialists are communists.
Socialism - when the means of production distribution and exchange are owned by the community as a whole rather than by private individuals
Communism - moneyless, classless, and stateless society abiding by each according to his ability to each according to his need.
The Goal of Socialism is Communism- Vladimir Lenin.
I mean, I hate communism as much as the next guy, but I also appreciate correct definitions. What you described as communism is more akin to anarchism, communism both supports and requires a strong state/national government in order to run.
@@zanderhandler129 Communism is actually exactly as the original commenter defined it. Socialism is the transitional period of a workers’ state before achieving communism, anarchism is simply cutting to the chase and eliminating the state in entirety.
Here’s a short excerpt from the Encylopaedia Britannica and the link for further reading.
“[The second stage of socialism] would be fully realized communism-a society without class divisions or government”
www.britannica.com/topic/communism
@@Infamous1892 I accept that Marx said that socialism was an economic transition before communism. But he also said that about capitalism. So using the capitalist argument that that makes all socialists communists. Anyone who supports capitalism is also a secret communist as Marx said capitalism is part of the transition towards communism.
I am not a communist.
I am not a communist. I believe in the best of socialism and capitalism. A mixed economic system in a democratic society.. I support equality, tolerance and peace.
Lenin was a communist. He does not define socialism for everyone. Just as Marx does not define capitalism for everyone.
Pretty accurate I will say but they both suck
Is no one going to talk about how satisfying watching the ink go onto the board is??? 🤤🤤🤤
Thank you for saying the quiet part out loud, lol! And I appreciate that the videos are very informative and unbiased.
Fun fact: The Incan empire is the closest thing to true communism humanity has achieved
Interesting. Thanks for sharing!
Humanity has achieved communism before. Hunter gatherers did not have a state or currency. That fits the definintion of a classless,stateless,moneyless society.Thats why marxists call it primitive-communism.
@@Dextroverse_princess I wrote the same thing lol
@@Dextroverse_princess The Incan empire had 12 million citizens and had no currency. They also had a standing army and were able to provide for their citizens while also constructing roads and other massive structures. No other society has implemented Communism to this level
@@kurtcondoleon1521 You can't really base communism off of a bronze age civilization, Communism is an industrial ideology, so you cant truly base it off of communism.
0:44 damn dude, Marx lookin' fire
yea
He looks like he's straight outta a dairy of a wrimpy kid book
ikr
LMAO
Thats minecraft steve
The only thing I would like to add is that, when you're talking about government in the Communist part, it's not really a government in the way we see it today, but more like an assembly of people. Like the soviets in Russia were planned to be but fell short
Thanks for pointing that out!
Someone there definitely failed to recognize that psychopaths and greedy idiots exist
@Jay Money this isn't a novel idea. All government and socioeconomic systems end the same way...communism.
It is the human condition greed, equality of outcome, power and legacy.
Tribes, Feudal Systems, Monarchy, Empire, Revolution, Republics, Democracy, Direct Democracy, Representative Democracy, Socialism, Communism and then collapse.
All civilizations have followed this pattern. Socialism is the beginning of the end for any sustainable economy, government or social structure.
What matters is what we are willing to fight for.
@@soapbox187 next up for the US, socialism 😒
@Jay Money You see, the reason they assemble is to get stuff done... and they say their needs and what needs to get done. That is why the assemble. They wouldn't do it if it was useless. The thing about the soviets was that they represented the workers of a specific industry and city, like steel workers of Moscow or builders of Leningrad. the soviet would decide on various things in policy along with other branches of the government. This is an example of assembly in a socialist system that has happened before.
Those countries are Social Democracy countries.
Not democratic socialist
Great point. There is a big difference.
Social democracy is just other name for Welfare Capitalism
I'm social democrat 🌹 btw
@@diazkohen2149 more like socialism
@@diazkohen2149 sorry
I really hate it when people say *Can communism ever work?* Like what do you mean by work? Communism is a philosophical, social, political and economic ideology and movement. For communists, a communist society, in which there is “common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money and the state” is an ideal state: that is, no existing system actually reaches that ideal. There has never been a communist country and never will be one because we are humans with biases just like there can never be a truly capitalist country either.
Although communist ideas existed before Karl Marx wrote the ‘Communist manifesto’ in 1848, that document has come to represent the core ideas of modern communist ideology and movements. Marx later wrote ‘Capital’, a more detailed analysis of how the existing ‘capitalist’ system worked. His writings inspired many movements, including the 1917 Russian revolution. As a result, ‘communism’, which is an ideology, is commonly confused with the political and economic system that developed in the Soviet Union after the Russian revolution.
Marx suggested that on the path towards ‘common ownership’ there would need to be a transition phase involving state ownership. In the Soviet Union, the government nationalised private property, but state ownership itself is not ‘communism’. Nonetheless, the Soviet system has become the commonly used meaning of ‘communism’.
Your question probably refers to ‘communism’ in that sense. The Soviet Union’s ‘communist’ system imposed central government ownership and control (a system also imposed on other countries in the ‘Soviet bloc’ in Eastern Europe), rejected elections on the grounds that the ‘communist’ party represented the people, and used a repressive system to suppress dissenters. Its economy stagnated and it became increasingly unpopular until its collapse in 1989-90.
So the Soviet system (which had gone through various stages) lasted just over 70 years, but clearly, in the end, did not ‘work’.
Why did Soviet communism not work? That is another complicated question, but it boils down to an over-centralised, oppressive, bureaucratic and rigid economic and political system.
The failure of the Soviet system has been widely hailed as proof that ‘communism’ does not work, but this idea is based on the mistaken idea that communism means the Soviet Union’s system.
In some cases when communists have gained power, economic and social outcomes have been relatively positive. In the state of Kerala in India, where the communist party is strong and influential (often winning elections), it has helped to build a relatively strong economy, educational system and social safety net. In terms of economic performance, China, where the Communist Party rules with no other legal parties, has been outstanding in recent decades; while in Cuba, also with a one-party community party-ruled government, economic performance has been weak but social indicators (life expectancy, educational level) have been remarkably good. These three cases are examples of very different systems ruled by communists. That is, ‘communism’ is not a single political and economic system.
However, the communist ideology, which argues that the current ‘capitalist’ system is unfair and that it is possible to challenge it, has therefore ‘worked’ in the sense that it has inspired people to push for social change: communists have therefore been among trade unionists using political and industrial pressure to secure fairer working conditions, and campaigners for health services, equal opportunities, and a fairer global economic system.
Ngl, too long, didn't read
Easy to understand yet packed full of information, this video was truly well made, I can't wait to learn more from your channel. Keep up the great work!
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Congratulations. You got fooled.
"You will own nothing and you will be happy." - World Economic Forum
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@@eddyrodriguez3865 good one
@@eddyrodriguez3865 These are all the billionaires and wannabe socialist fascist china.
@@mr.jamster8414 socialism and fascism are completely opposite ideologies you stupid melon
@@eddyrodriguez3865 Bullshit, Giovanni Gentileza (the guy that invented fascism) was a socialist. Nevertheless, Mussolini started his career at the socialist Italian party and even said that Marx was “the best of the best”
A very enjoyable, and I believe accurate, overview of Socialism and Communism. I also appreciate there is no bias in this video regarding the efficacy of these political ideologies.
It represents communism in a pretty shit way though.
@@august6981 Could you please describe specifically where it's shit? Is there an inaccuracy?
@@avalonjustin Its a lay. Socialism is economical sistem where ppl are not payed equaly, but payed value of their labor, not beeing exploitet by ownership of means of production. Communism is philosophy of life. Read some books
@@prikipriki30which books would you suggest? Is there one in the 'for Dummies' collection? 😶🤞🏼
How many times do I have to say that a Social Democracy is NOT the same as Democratic Socialism.
1)Sweden is a SOCIAL DEMOCRACY; a fundamentally CAPITALIST system with a large welfare state. Democratic Socialism is when then means of production are owned by (realistically) the state but the people/workers have a say in how businesses are run. 2)Communism does NOT require revolution neither is socialism achieved through democratic means. Socialism is described as a post-capitalist and pre-communist state that can be seen as the transitionary state form Capitalism to Communism. Prominent examples of Socialism are the socioeconomic state of the USSR (pre glasnost/perestroika), the PRC under Mao and possibly, a more gentle version, Tito's Yugoslavia.
3) When most people today talk about "communist" countries their referring to Socialist nations run by a Communist Party. Nobody is ever referring to "theory communism" just like when people say "capitalist" they're referring to mixed economies with a prominent private sector, like the USA and not "theory capitalism". Both the theoretical versions of communism and capitalism have never been implemented and will, probably, never be.
To sum up,
-Social Democracy=Capitalism + Welfare
-Socialism=State-owned means of production
-Democratic Socialism=State-owned m.o.p. + will of the people
-Communism=Moneyless, Classless, Stateless
-When people talk about communist countries they're referring to ones like the USSR and when talking about capitalist countries they're referring to ones like the USA. Both terms are wrongly used but it is convenient so it's very acceptable to use them in that manner.
So Bernie sanders is a social Democrat and not a democratic socialist?
@@TrevJ91 Exactly. That's what he runs as anyway. I'd probably wager that his beliefs are closer to actual Democratic Socialism, but it'd be political suicide to admit that. Same for AOC
I can already tell that the comment section is going to be a powder keg.
Nah ,I think only educated people visit these videos.
I agree with Rahib, don't worry man :)
I love your profile pic. Cheers
As socialist videos go it’s not too bad. Reply sections are usually the worst.
Thank you for acknowledging that the Nordic model (Denmark, Norway and Sweden) is social democracy, *not* socialism.
@Roniixx Well, the economic policy of the Nordic model has been described as "compassionate capitalism".
@Roniixx Uhh, yeah it does. The nordic countries are democratic.
The problem is that there isn't one universal definition of socialism. Self-described socialists will argue about what socialism is all the time and you'll inevitably get the comment along the lines of "that's not real socialism"
You’re totally right. I’ve been dealing with those kind of comments all the time.
Illustrate to Educate I feel kinda bad about giving you one of those comments now, but I still really like this video
@@gemmahudack6182 oh it’s totally fine. I appreciate the feedback. I acknowledge my videos do not contain 100% accurate information. It would take months to make a single video. Plus there’s always differing viewpoints, sources, etc and I acknowledge that I won’t make everyone happy with all my videos. All I ask is that people are respectful in the feedback which you totally were.
As a socialist i agree. I think we should all just agree with the marxist definintions of it.
There's only one type of socialism; the type that never works.
Pure socialism and pure capitalism both don’t work, I think history has proven that plenty of times. The trick now is finding the right blend of the two.
i don't want to arguing i just want to Learn
i'm in peaceful comment btw
same i really just wanna know the difference between stuff like this so i dont sound dumb if its brought up lol
Deus-x
I believe you got social democracy and democratic socialist a bit mixed up, especially when you were talking about Norway and Sweden and the other Nordic countries
My mistake. One of the sources used them interchangeably and I assumed they were similar.
@@IllustratetoEducate Democratic Socialism is a Socialist ideology, considered a branch of marxism, where the state is a socialist sate NOT capitalist state. A social democracy is also considered a branch of Revisionist Marxism (though there is debate here). A Social Democracy is a Capitalist Society, but with social policies and welfare, and a focus on the redistribution of wealth.
@@J.D.... so Progressivism in the US would be social democracy not democratic socialism?
So what they're pushing for here in the US is social democracy? Taking those Nordic countries as examples, I don't think it's that bad as Republicans say so. I'm a new voter as a naturalized American and I wanted to understand which party has better policies for all.
@Yahir Hernandez thank you for your simplified explanation. I married a Cuban American who was a strong Republican and I can see now why but I think it's all because of lack of knowledge and understanding the difference between social democracy and communism in Cuba.
Great stuff! I love how you provide content in a completely unbiased manner; I subscribed :)
Thank you! Glad you enjoy the videos.
@@IllustratetoEducate Yeah; this video was a really fabulous evaluation of the distinctions between socialism and communism, as well as comparing that to the real world of today; I subscribed as well.
Norway sweden and denmark are not in any Way shape or form socialist
"We think it's very, very important that you understand the distinction between socialism and communism, and it's not what you think!"
I have a deep understanding of communism. Especially from the Russia (Soviet) point of view. From 1984-1986 I served an LDS mission in New York City as a Russian speaking missionary. I spent my two years working with Russians, all who had immigrated from the Soviet Union. I had many older Russian friends who were in concentration camps and had lived their lives in the Soviet system (the perfect communistic system experiment). I could write a book on the terrible strife these people lived in. But my real learning on communism was living in the Soviet Union (Leningrad) the summer of 1990. This was the summer the Berlin Wall came down, and one year before the Soviet Union dissolved. I lived the life of a Soviet Russian for the summer. It was super exciting for me. But I can't even begin to paint the picture of life under Soviet rule. The young ones of today would not believe me. You are right, Dan. Socialism is the gateway to communism. When I see the democrats pushing socialism I just can't even believe it. They have absolutely NO IDEA what they are messing with. It is scary, scary, scary. Thank you for such a powerful video.
Thank you for sharing this personal story. You’ve been right up close with people who have dealt with this personally. I appreciate the comment! :)
Do you mind sharing exacting some the terrible strife those people lived in. I'm trying to understand the difference between libertarianism, socialism and communism. I want to get an understanding of what society would look like if they each of these 3.Also, if socialism is the next step to communism, where does libertarianism stand? For a while i thought i was apolitical but im slowly changing and thinking i may be close to libertarian but there are still a lot of things i dont agree with that party.
@@icreatehobbies8025 libertarianism: That which governs best, governs least.
socialism: That which governs best, governs most
communism: That which governs best, governs ALL.
The three belief systems. I am a "least" guy myself, so perhaps my view is biased.
@@bigsmoke5494 I do not know who you are replying to, but yes, socialism and communism have murdered many more people than WWII. Mao's Great Leap Forward itself cause 50 million deaths by some estimates. Add Gulags, Pol Pot, etc.
"Capitalism kills tens of milions per year (wars,hunger,climate change)"
No. capitalism is an economic system. Wars, Hunger, climate change, etc. have nothing to do with "capitalism".
NSA and CIA and Guantanamo also have nothing to do with "capitalism". They are "government".
Gulags are indeed the same as "some" nazi camps. There were 2 types of camps. Work camps and death camps.
The original Nazi "work" camps were a copy of the original soviet gulag work camps. "Death" camps, after 42 became different.
The actual numbers of those that perished in the german and soviet camps will never be determined, but most believe that more died in the Gulags.
Democrats may indeed believe they want "social democracy'. But the economies of Denmark, Norway and Sweden are not "socialist democracy". They are absolutely capitalist economies, considered to be freer economies than the US according to economists.
"achievements of USSR". The achievements include gulags, which you attempt to justify. OK, lets ignore human misery and collapse and government against the will of the people. Compare the "achievements" to capitalist western Europe.
@@bigsmoke5494 OK. So you have no response and even though I prove everything you say is incorrect, you cannot refute any of that.
I believe in CIA propaganda. The CIA has just recently helped overthrow a democratic election with propaganda.
This propaganda is easy to identify, because the CIA admits they wrote it. The propaganda is also very easy to prove false.
If CIA propaganda interests you, here is it best example:
www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000
This is your CIA at work!!!!! This is "CIA backed propaganda media." So it does exist and does overthrow governments.
One thing to note is that Marx never wrote about "equality" as he thought that term was utopian in nature. Marxist thought is material in nature and accepts that pure equality is not feasible or even desirable.
This was very enlightening, and put really simply
Thank you!
Yes, it's important to frame communism and socialism as simply as possible, so it's easier to convince people. Once you get into the minutia of these philosophies, they fall apart and are easily destroyed in debate. By giving a very sanitized and dumbed down version of communism and socialism, it will seem reasonable to unsophisticated thinkers who've never heard any political arguments before. We've seen these systems play out, and it has always been a blood bath and complete economic failure.
@@DarthHater100 Hahah sto stay ignorant and simple, bc you would be destroied in debate? Ppl need education, not to be brainwashed with simplicity.
@@DarthHater100 That sistem is never tryied in history
@@prikipriki30 Yes, if you know absolutely nothing at all about history, you might say socialism and communism has never been tried. Read a book lady!
Stellar job. nobody can truly be unbiased by definition but this is a masterclass in objectively outlining. I love it.
Thank you so much. That’s my goal with my channel and I’m glad you found it to be that way for you! ;)
I’m just waiting for someone to say “there is no difference
There is no difference
my parents watch fox news and believe socialism IS communism. and democrats are socialists, thereby commies. or something
Did you watch the video? He just listed the difference.
@@fitafries7274 pretty sure it was a joke
@@fitafries7274 I was just joking
While socialism meets the inherently social needs of humans, what about competition? Capitalism fulfills it, but without it, I fear that people will find a way to be cruel or exploitative to one another in some other way, like through further division between political ideologies or sports rivalries. How can this be combatted? How can our competitive sides be satisfied?
The idea is not to completely remove capitalism. There will still be rewards for achievement. It's just that with socialistic policies that would negate abuse of workers. If people had their needs met (food, housing, healthcare, leisure time, etc), then they wouldn't be ripe for exploitation as they are in the US. If you don't have to be a wage slave simply to stay alive then cooperations would have to pay you what you deserve or they wouldn't get the workers.
Really appreciate the non biased take, was very informative
Thank you for watching! :)
Socialism and Communisms suffer from the same weakness that Capitalism does. Humans are naturally competitive. They prioritize themselves and their immediate loved ones over a stranger. All three systems are inherently flawed because those who would exploit the systems always find ways to do so and rise to prominence.
Thanks! I think it's very important to know the differences and similarities of these because they are gaining more ground in politics today
I want Usa to have free health care,education,and a small retirement fund as a baseline but if you want more you have to pay more taxes or go to the private sector for better quality.
@@Mize this is like an even more moderate social democracy
@@orangeanarchy235 yeah haha
@@Mize yeah im pretty sure that would fall under third way, dont you think?
@@orangeanarchy235 wait Wdym by third way?
Finally an accurate video on socialism, not a biased or false one.
Socialism is the engagement ring and communism is the wedding
Hitler called himself a socialist.
Well he wasn't one
He’s as socialist as the Nordic countries
Socialism is a way to Communism.Both are socially and economically destructive in our present extremely competitive world.
@proletarian guard destructive as Cuba, China, North Korea, Venezuela
@proletarian guard from a virus that came from china??
@proletarian guard can you provide some evidence for this claim (virus in UK waste of march 2019) ? I am interested in reading about that. Preferably not a bias platform or blog...
@@rodrigopaiva8911 does it matter where it came from? the fact that it started in china and the us has over 100x the cases just backs up proletarian guard's point further.
@@orangeanarchy235 a country were people starve and need to eat dogs and bats THATS THE RESUME OF A SOCIALIST COUNTRY
@Illustrate to Educate
Actually, and sorry to nitpick, but when you say "Democratic Socialism", I think you're actually referring to "Social Democracy". The two terms are infuriatingly similar, and I've only recently learnt the differences between them myself.
Democratic Socialism is a form of more moderate socialism that was labelled as such by it's advocates to differentiate itself from other forms of Socialism, like the USSR, Cuba, North Korea, that they saw as undemocratic and that they wished to distance themselves from.
Social Democracy is the softer form of Capitalism, where the economic system is maintained, with the Bourgeoisie owning the "capital", but that aims to lessen wealth inequality and increase public ownership. This is what the Nordic countries support, along with politicians like Bernie Sanders.
Aside from that, great video.
It really helped me get a grasp of the differences between the two systems.
You're totally right. It was my bad to mix them up. I need to do a video to clarify that sometime.
Wow! I was finding a good video about communism a while ago and I am grateful that I discovered this. Now I finallt understand it. I was confused with the idea of communism because I did not know there is a country that is like that but then you cleared all the confusion and questions that is on my mind by saying that there is no country that has a pure communism. Thank you! It was such an educational video❤️
This is a great educational channel! 💪 Keep up the great work.
Good video. Unbiased and good explanation. Keep up this great work to educate ignorant people in our society!
Thank you! Will do!
Not really a good explanation
@@Justme-fz1ng sounds like this channel doesn’t fit your needs. I’m sorry...
@@IllustratetoEducate We talked in another thread about this,and i think u understand what socialism is. So thats nice. I also like the animations on show.
Of course,i do not completely agree with this video,being a marxist, but there is definitely a kind of audience for u out there. So keep posting!! My comment was not against your channel but rather this singular vid. No hate towards you of course!!
Maybe he can do a video showing why socialist and communist countries are extremely corrupt.
I appreciate this video didn't justifying term but also talked about their similarities and differences this helped me to understand it more, thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Very illustrative as always, thank you so much for your efforts :)
NOT KNOCKING YOU OR JUDGING YOU but there's actually some key things wrong with this. Asking "what's the difference between a communist and a socialist" is like asking "what's the difference between a pitbull and a dog", first of all. Second, "communist state" is an oxymoron as a communist society would be stateless. There are other things but I'll suggest Paul Morrin's Socialism 101 series on youtube.
I like how you said “first of all” AFTER your first point.
Thanks for helping to clear this up without adding in a bias!
Great video ! ( as expected ) keep them up
credit to my man for spelling all these words correctly without autocorrect. Honestly an achievement within itself
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Im a socialist but not a communist. Communism would have to be entirely without corruption, theft, envy, hate or jealousy and I dont see that happening happening with the way we humans are now.
Socialism however is possible and if both properly democratic yet rigid enough it would be a better system than capitalism. I dare say it would be more free, except if you wanted to be like Jeff Bezos, at which point you'd deserve those limits.
Capitalism has been good at innovation and technology, so to not compensate our exceptional people for their capabilities is a bad idea, but there just has to be a limit. Also I dont believe in nationalism, I believe in self determination between cultures, but borders are absurd
1 thing to take away from this video:
You don't want either of them
Agreed, I love capitalism and exploiting the working class
@Gvipe he is
Gvipe I am
there are people who do
slavoj zizek as an example
So I guess u like being a 9-5 minimum wage slave to your corporate overlords.
I honestly think Democratic Socialism sounds like the best one.
Thank you for this simple, informative video. Well done with no bias. My only suggestion would be to have it at half speed to make the information easier to assimilate.
I agree that it is a bit fast. Thanks for the feedback!
Actually communism also requires it to be stateless
IKRRRR this video made me so mad especially when he said talked about the elimination of personal property when he meant to say private
Great Video man, you have a great energy about you, keep up the good work 👍🏼
Thank you so much. I appreciate that.
“Socialism is based”
Communism, Socialism, call it what you like. There's very little difference in the two.
He forgot to mention they are other types of socialism beyond centralized socialism.You got market socialism,decentralized socialism,non-monetary socialism and other socialist economic theories but generally got the main definition of what socialism is.Libertarian socialism exists anyways.I give this video a pass however.
Marx understanding of the goverment is based on the class struggle, but, since communism is a classles society there's no goverment.
@MATT CYPRESS Indeed, marxism and anarchocommunism leads to the same goal, communism, but the means of getting there are not the same under those.
Democratic socialism doesn’t sound bad, free healthcare and education through taxes sound great, that explains why Nordic people live good lives.
Those countries are social democratic, not democratic socialist. Democratic socialism in its purest form is actually having the people seize the means of production but the political system is just democratic.
@@badwolf9956 No matter what you call it, No one can deny that this is a working system that helps daily citizens without having actual socialism or that would cause an economic catastrophe.
Health care woldnt be "free" taxes wold raise a lot to pay for it
@@lilithchaotc I said that, what people mean by free is when it comes to Universal Healthcare, its free at the point of when you use it, weather it be an ambulance and a hospital bed and yes this will be payed through tax payer money.
@@lilithchaotc If you mean in the context of the United States, it would be a tax cut. Public taxes would raise, but whats effectively private tax (copays, premiums, deductibles) would be eliminated, the difference being that Americans would save money on healthcare.
It is really impressive how this man draws and explains the difference between socialism and communism. He makes it easy to understand. He is a very good teacher.
I like to have opportunity and be self sufficient. I don't want a government to feed me or own the roof over my head. I don't want to support people who do not want to contribute.
If you want to define terms such as socialism and communism, you need to know the original writings quite well. This guy doesn't.
I can’t say that’s not true. But for an average person who has no idea what the terms even mean at all, they don’t need an in depth explanation that dives into the original writings. Just my opinion.
Thank you for making this.
Wish more people would see this and understand that socialism isn't the same as communism.
The goal of Socialism is Communism- Vladimir Lenin
In Capital, Marx begins his analysis with an already existing capitalist economy. Marx can't explain how the capitalist economy came into existence because such an economy couldn't come into existence according to Marx's peculiar analysis of the capitalist economy where surplus-value created capital must first exist, but since surplus-value doesn't exist yet, there can be no capital to begin the capitalist economy. To overcome this inherent contradiction in Marx's "investigation", he begins Capital where we find an already existing capitalist economy:
“The wealth of those societies in which the capitalist
mode of production prevails, presents itself as “an
immense accumulation of commodities," its unit
being a single commodity. Our investigation must
therefore begin with the analysis of a commodity.”
The "investigation" needs to begin with how the commodities came into existence, that is how the capitalist economy came into existence, an oversight necessitated by a fraud.
Let's see if we can commence the Capitalist economy using the following Marxist tautology, "Hitherto we have investigated how surplus-value emanates from capital; we have now to see how capital arises from surplus-value.":*
(1) What do we need to initiate the Capitalist economy? Capital, of course.
(2) So let's get some capital...where is this capital, according to Marx?
(3) We get capital from surplus value, Marx tells us, "capital arises from surplus-value."
(4) Okay, so let's get some surplus value to get capital. Where can we find surplus value, according to Marx?
(5) "Surplus value emanates from capital", Marx's tautologically informs us!
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* Capital, Chapter 24, first sentence (1867)
It’s my understanding that private property, not personal property, is abolished under communism. “You get to keep your toothbrush”
I think Democratic Socialism is a good balance between Socialism and Capitalism
im a social democrat, and i completely agree!
@@orangeanarchy235 AYYY same
@@emanuelvazquez6492 lets go!
@@orangeanarchy235 I'm a Social Capitalist lol
2:44 "...with the central government controlling ALL means of production."
It doesn't matter what is tried, as long as the government has this much autonomy, it will fail
There is no state in communism, per Marx state is just a tool of the minority class to keep the majority from taking their stuff, thus in a classless society it would be irrelevant. The government doesnt determine what you want under communism, you decide your need.
Yet those that obtain high positions in the Socialist or Communist parties are wealthy while the majority are in poverty. Regardless of system, there will always be the rich and the poor.
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The difference between Socialism and Communism is that Socialism is a stepping stone towards Communism.
Great video.
One thing that was missing at the end was that the existing (declared) communist countries also fail to provide properly for their people and that the people have practically no say in what the government does.
Exactly
They are no communist countries, just socialist ones. But the second point is just too true, half of socialists dont even consider them socialist because of this problem.
@MadGod Артур
I agree, that's why I put "(declared)" in there.
I should have said "alleged", to be more precise.
However, I do agree with your point. One of the best example are Scandinavian countries, first and foremost Sweden. Imo
something about a raised fist angers me
@Evan Scammell I think I can put into words
to me it says
"agree with us or die"
ultimatums go against freedom
and freedom being America's foundation has no place for a mentality like that
lest we become what the colonists rebelled against
@@thedude3065 facts
@@thedude3065 I understand the sentiment, especially having been right wing in a previous life myself, but to leftists, the raised fist simply means the throwing-off of oppressive forces. These forces oppress people of all ideologies, like the Wall Street suits or the lobbyists in the halls of congress, and the fist is the symbol of the people willing to stand up and fight against them.
@@bshbhyuh how long until the ends no longer justify the means?
@@thedude3065 I could ask the same about the current system. Millions of people die every year because of the current organization of the economy, and Americans suffer everyday because of the way our government works. The system itself says “Agree with us or die,” the system itself commits violence against the people, so who are we to stop people from raising their fists in protest, especially peacefully? To prevent people from raising their fists goes against the very idea of freedom that you claim to support.
Nice job..Part 2...please provide more specific examples of how each system would work modern day.
Socialism = You don't own your business.
Communism = You don't own anything.
One is a bad idea that sounds great on paper to people who never owned a successful business, the other is what actually happens when that bad idea is attempted.
wow this is just the most wrong I have ever seen someone be about communism.
how can people be so bold yet so wrong, what kind of delusional personality makes such wrong generalized statements when in the state of such ignorance.
@@holup977 The irony in your comment.....lol...
This channel is very unbiased, however this video just destroyed many arguments of the far-right. Theories such as "Socialism is Communism" or "Bernie is a Communist"
This is why communism has no place in Philippines.
Well... I don’t think communist protesters and activists in Mindanao and some islands in the Visayan region would agree. As a Filipino, most communist protesters can be found in Mindanao.
Thank you this makes me finally understand socialism a bit more and I kind of like the idea! Great job.
Awesome! Thank you!
Thank you so much for this video! I have looked and looked on CZcams for someone to define Socialism for me, and while some videos have come close to clarifying it for me, your video was the easiest for me to understand by far! Thank you!
You’re welcome! I hope you’ll check out some of my channel for other simple and objective videos on topics that matter.
The thing is, I'm not sure you got the definitions and differences right...
But I don't blame you since I feel like even in leftist circles there is confusion
Yeah that’s the thing. There’s so many different definitions out there. I tried sticking to the most “text-book” definition, which even then, doesn’t really exist.
@@IllustratetoEducate Yes that is true indeed.
That is why I don't blame you and I respect that you tried nonetheless
As a socialist, I'm not complaining. We can barely agree on anything ourselves.
Do a video on Green Party's EcoSocialism!!
Great job! You actually stated the differences as opposed to just defining both back-to-back. Thanks
You're welcome!
\o/ national-socialism (the Nazi economic model) was socialism and yet doesn't fit in your definition. Why? Because both socialism and communism are umbrella terms that has VARIATIONS and, at best, you exposed one of such variations of each case.
I want to say, I think you defined socialism/communism so much better in this video than your last. I still have some issues, I think you’re defining socialism/communism as Marxism-Leninism and you didn’t mention that there’s a difference between private property and personal property. But we can’t all be perfect. Overall great video though!
great one!!!
In pure communism who is the boss in the central government? If no boss, who will set the schedule to do anything? If there is a boss, how are all people equal?
Boss is new feudal😂 in communist government.
Communism is just good in idea . But not Inpractice because some human beings are lazy selfish and corrupt. Some human beings are born leaders some are followers. it’s hard to live without a leader if everyone thinks differently because we have intelligence and free will
What happens to people who dont want participate in a socialist society?
why wouldn't you want to
@@finnishboy5923 Because people are not entitled to what I own and produce.
ok as a person who needs things simply explained, this was super helpful so thank you!
No problem!
Great video! North Korea follows extreme Communism which is essentially Totalitarianism.
Socialism seems like a gateway to Capitalism, because there are bound to be dissatisfied individuals who are more efficient and work harder than others.
Communism seems like a gateway to Totalitarianism, for obvious reasons.
@@loturzelrestaurant Ofcourse its opposes Capitalism, but that doesn't mean it cannot potentially give rise to Capitalism due to dissatisfied individuals
@@harshjoshi957 Hmm...
What do you think about the Capitalism-Videos by "Some More News" i wonder, reading your comment.
@@harshjoshi957 I mean all the videos by that CZcamsr who have the word Capitalism or System in the videotitle
Please do a video on different types of communism!
The problem is allowing the government control. It's that simple. In America, we have the US constitution that allows us to tell the government to eff off if we seem it is needed.
Karl Marx also advocated the “removal” of certain groups from society. AKA racial/ethnic cleansing.
I appreciate that this is not biased but it is also not correct. In the description of Communism, everything was right until the claim that the State controls all property. This is not what Communism is. The first part of the explanation is right, Communism is a classless society where productive property and assets are held in common by all of society, by function Communism is also a post scarce society (meaning commodities for use-value, goods which satisfy human needs and wants, are in such abundance that profit isn't necessary).
There is no state at all in Communism. 'Communist states' of the 20th century, and including China, Cuba, Vietnam and Laos today, all claim to be Communist states in that they are controlled by a Communist party under Marxist-Leninist ideology. Marxist Leninism states underdeveloped countries that are not sufficiently developed for socialism or communism to evolve must be controlled by a strong vanguard Communist Party which is made up of workers and intelligentsia (theorists, thinkers) to guide economic development so that when conditions are right, a peaceful transition to Socialist and Communist society can be achieved. Communist Parties are meant to ensure a safe transition to further stages of development, but those states like the USSR, are not Communist societies and nor do/did they claim to be.
The 2nd point at 3:28, ignores anarchism, and to some extent market socialism. There is little to no need for a state in those versions because most businesses would be worker cooperatives, where each worker has a democratic say in how their workplace is run.
What does it mean to have something like education "owned by the community" under socialism? How would that work practically? Vs. owned by the government...
thank you for this 😁
No problem! Glad you enjoyed it!
This is a must learn course for Americans since they have been browbeaten to reject everything except American Capitalism, which, as we have seen during this pandemic, is a failure.
This is an excellent overview. Thank you!!
This channel needs more love.
Thanks! I appreciate it! I hope it gets more attention as time goes on!
Karl Marx said they were the same lol
"Things you own, land up owning you"
You have nice drawing skills man!
Thank you so much 😀
@@IllustratetoEducate No problem!
Sending this to my grandpa