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    So Palworld has become a massive success and a massive drama across the internet, but does it deserve either? Join me, @CircleToonsHD and @trickykappa as we figure out if Palworld is just ripping off a bunch of games like Pokemon, Breath of the Wild, Elden Ring and combining them into a gross mesh of a video game?! Or if it actually has potential in being a genuinely good time?
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    Chapters:
    00:00 - Intro
    00:28 - Our Experience
    01:29 - The Survival Game Genre
    02:47 - Factor Sponsor
    04:22 - The Game Loop
    07:12 - The Monster-Taming Genre
    09:11 - Monster Designs
    11:43 - Developers Intentions
    15:06 - The Solution
    16:54 - The Future of Palworld
    17:57 - Should You Play Palworld?
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  • @GetMadz
    @GetMadz  Před 4 měsíci +74

    Use code GETMADZ50 to get 50% off your first Factor box at bit.ly/48aVDIS!

    • @sikkouvol.1996
      @sikkouvol.1996 Před 4 měsíci

      Their previous games get constant updates so I confused why you said judging by their previous games they will abandon this one...

    • @pixcraft1995
      @pixcraft1995 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Why is Barry 63 in your ad (skill emojii) and how did factor let you put Barry 63 in your ad

    • @quintonconoly
      @quintonconoly Před 4 měsíci +1

      Oh

    • @mikoajflakdrechnowicz1146
      @mikoajflakdrechnowicz1146 Před měsícem +1

      Did they played dont starve together?

  • @NothingToPostHereJustWatching
    @NothingToPostHereJustWatching Před 4 měsíci +877

    Shadow the Hedgehog right now after Pokémon’s unofficial “Pokémon with Guns” game succeeded when his “Sonic with Guns” game failed:

  • @zidebo5849
    @zidebo5849 Před 4 měsíci +364

    As someone who wants to be a game dev, I am extremely scared of seeming like I’m ripping off what I’m inspired by. It’s good to see stuff that shows what and what not to do.

    • @KBhunterx262
      @KBhunterx262 Před 4 měsíci +48

      I mean palworld's developers openly embrace ripping off other games. It's a really smart business model honestly. They take games artstyles/gimmicks and combine them or improve them. Their next game is hollow knight rip off but with 4 players instead of 1. I'm not sure about the ethicality of it

    • @JDReC100
      @JDReC100 Před 4 měsíci +9

      @@KBhunterx262 yeah, im also keeping an eye on that one. In curious to see if it's another game where the systems weirdly click, if it has innovation in its mechanics, or if its just derivative. Also curious to see how other Metroidvania devs will respond to it one week after release.

    • @KBhunterx262
      @KBhunterx262 Před 4 měsíci +17

      @@JDReC100 Hopefully it'll motivate the hollow knight devs to finally release silksong 💀

    • @user-hj3wx6xx9c
      @user-hj3wx6xx9c Před 4 měsíci +1

      but palworld is good

    • @FTChomp9980
      @FTChomp9980 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Sock Guy I'm in the boat as u honestly.

  • @bomba5on
    @bomba5on Před 4 měsíci +90

    the real pals we made were the pals along the way...

  • @mao4434
    @mao4434 Před 4 měsíci +56

    The only thing that makes me happy about the palworld situation is that yokai watch is getting mentioned more and more
    I shall rest now

  • @ninjajack6457
    @ninjajack6457 Před 4 měsíci +127

    Yo-Kai Watch mention
    (Does a backflip)

    • @onyotubero
      @onyotubero Před 4 měsíci +5

      same i rewinded to see if he actually said yo kai watch

    • @frownyclowny6955
      @frownyclowny6955 Před 4 měsíci +4

      I miss Yo-Kai Watch

    • @ninjajack6457
      @ninjajack6457 Před 4 měsíci

      @@frownyclowny6955 soon our empire shall return, my child…

    • @qubertis3292
      @qubertis3292 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Hearing Yo-kai Watch get mentioned instantly put a smile on my face! :)

    • @DanTheLoler_17
      @DanTheLoler_17 Před 3 měsíci +5

      That's right, don't mess with the Yo-Kai Watch fandom! (we are like seven people total)

  • @sloft-70
    @sloft-70 Před 4 měsíci +30

    I love how Circletoons accidently caught a human with 3% chance within 5 minutes of his first playthrough

    • @blankcanvas3358
      @blankcanvas3358 Před 4 měsíci +1

      It sounded like something straight out of his shorts.

  • @DoMorrMusic
    @DoMorrMusic Před 4 měsíci +202

    “Selling humans is the meta”

  • @larrylaffer3246
    @larrylaffer3246 Před 4 měsíci +164

    Honestly PalWorld has given me less Rip-Off vibes more Non-Union Mexican Equivalent vibes when compared to Pokemon. Because a rip-off wouldn't have done anything different with the base Pokemon design format; Whereas this decided to throw a BOTW And/or 7 Days to Die/Rust-Style system on top of everything. Creating a not entirely unique game, but one that's fun to play. One people actually had fun making and didn't do it just for a paycheck.

    • @sinfulloccultist950
      @sinfulloccultist950 Před 4 měsíci +8

      This. Especially since games like dynamons has been out for years and is much more derivative

    • @larrylaffer3246
      @larrylaffer3246 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@sinfulloccultist950 Yeah. I think it's mainly garnering attention because Nintendo hasn't well paid much attention. They're like a hawk with these kinds of things. The moment a fan project or something like one of their games gets made; Bam, they issue a cease and desist faster than Wario jumps on loose change. I think it mainly has something to do with Japan's screwy copyright/fair use system. Which lets them play free and loose with copyright law but allows them to sue the pants of anyone who's not them when they violate it one iota.

    • @atomicskull6405
      @atomicskull6405 Před 4 měsíci +2

      That plus they took all those dark suspicions you have have about what goes on behind the scenes in Pokemon and just put it all out in the open. The realistic brutality combined with the sanitized saccharin aesthetic played 100% straight with no irony is hilariously dark.

    • @largepackage2322
      @largepackage2322 Před 3 měsíci

      7 days to die creators are just pricks I dropped that game recently I played it since it came out on Xbox 1 its ruined for me you should see the shit they said and how they act towards criticism

  • @the_godbodor7026
    @the_godbodor7026 Před 4 měsíci +30

    Honestly, the fact this is the dev's first game where they made the models themselves while having some actually really good original designs is quite a big pro

  • @galloviking4766
    @galloviking4766 Před 4 měsíci +13

    It's not "Pokemon with guns".
    It's "Ark with Pokemons".

  • @TheMiningMeteor
    @TheMiningMeteor Před 4 měsíci +12

    That was one of the best sponsored segments I’ve ever seen. “Would you consider yourself annoying?” And then he lists the DIET OPTIONS 😂

  • @ZeraAxon
    @ZeraAxon Před 4 měsíci +8

    10:50 & 12:28
    It’s also a matter of realizing that making comparisons is okay to do! It’s in our dna, our instincts as animals to identify things based on appearance- shape, color, etc. To examine something and determine if it’s safe to eat, pick up, etc.
    It’s okay if the Pals look similar to Pokémon, because it’s something that’s comforting and familiar to the eyes- and there’s also the factor of inspiration whether it’s slight or extremely referenced.

  • @misterzygarde6431
    @misterzygarde6431 Před 4 měsíci +150

    At the very least, if Palworld’s success gives Pokemon more competition. I’d be happy. Especially if it meant Yo-Kai Watch having international releases again.
    I have a friend who’s a huge fan of Yo-Kai Watch.

    • @PowerAids
      @PowerAids Před 4 měsíci +14

      Well it is returning, we got the first teaser trailer for yokai watch 5

    • @voidlessdoodler8340
      @voidlessdoodler8340 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Ghost Craft is gonna release. Your friend will become the happiest person on earth 🌍

    • @DiamondSpider01
      @DiamondSpider01 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Well at the very least Level-5 has some plans with this new yokai based game. We can only hope for the localization of YKW4 and YKW1 on switch sometime.

    • @Coconut_Comerad
      @Coconut_Comerad Před 4 měsíci

      @@PowerAids Still it may not be made translated

    • @onyotubero
      @onyotubero Před 4 měsíci +1

      i want ykw 2 to come to switch PLEASE LEVEL 5 IM BEGGING YOU IM ON MY KNEES

  • @DeltaFrazzle
    @DeltaFrazzle Před 4 měsíci +28

    ive been ignoring the palworld discussion cause its a blah subject to me, but with with your artstyle and funny n bouncy commentary, i will buckle down and listen

  • @little_creecher
    @little_creecher Před 4 měsíci +7

    When I saw that grass elephant, my exact first thought was "Is that the Asone grass starter?????"

  • @atomicskull6405
    @atomicskull6405 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Early on you can make a berry farm and a feed box and after that the pals feed themselves *and* make enough extra to keep you fed too. Basically everything can be automated and just runs itself.

    • @Zorothegallade-gg7zg
      @Zorothegallade-gg7zg Před 3 měsíci

      And that lets you breathe freely while you start building up to better food alternatives so you can feed more powerful Pals.

  • @MaxM210
    @MaxM210 Před 4 měsíci +22

    I totally agree with madz about Arceus and S+V. I loved Arceus and was so let down by S+V.
    Among S+V's many many issues, the main reason I came away from it unsatisfied was how cumbersome catching pokemon was. In Arceus, throwing balls is a mapped button, be it starting a battle or just catching without battling, where as in S+V you have to awkwardly smash into pokemon on the field which happens all the time when you don't want it to, because the models are tiny and hard to see and always in the way, and you can't run away when you ever you want, which makes no sense, so I ended up avoiding even getting near any pokemon I didn't want to battle. It feels so disconnected and video gamey. In Arceus balls work they way they're shown to work in universe. Throwing is a set command, you can do when ever.
    And Catching is so arbitrary that sometimes a pokemon will be very low health and still not catch. It's a pain to catch low level pokemon, because they need to be weak to be caught, and your team will just instakill any weaker pokemon anyway. Just everything in S+V feels like a step backwards from Arceus.
    And one the main reasons I've been enjoying Palworld is because its using the same kinda gameplay loop Arceus had, where catching is an easy to do mechanic, and where low levels pals can be caught without needing to battle. But the world still has high level and rare pals out and about, existing organically in the world, and unlike in S+V where you can't run away if caught for some reason, Palworld is like Arceus where you don't just get locked in place when a battle starts, so if you're losing a fight or get caught by a high level enemy you can run away and try to escape.
    EDIT 2 MONTHS LATER: I kinda felt the need to return to this comment, in case anyone still sees it, because in all honesty, I’ve very much softened on S/V, and I find I no longer dislike it as much as I used to. In fact I’ve honestly come away from it pretty positive over all, and ironically enough Palworld kinda helped me with that.
    I was very much in the wrong head space when I first played Violet, and the game certainly leaves a bad first impression. But I feel like now that palworld exists, I no longer compare S/V to Legends Arceus and have instead been comparing it to the Pokémon games that came before. And Violet still had everything I loved about the previous Pokémon games, and if anything improved on them in ways I didn’t see.
    I just don’t have the anger to be mad at S/V anymore and instead find myself enjoying it more and more. I don’t blame anyone who still dislikes it, and I don’t retract any of my Criticisms of it, but overall I can’t say they’re bad games or that I dislike them anymore.

  • @Shinmegamitenseistrangejourney
    @Shinmegamitenseistrangejourney Před 4 měsíci +218

    Honestly im just hoping palworld does enough to convince gamefreak and tpc to actually give a pokemon game the proper time in the oven

    • @itsturniptime3699
      @itsturniptime3699 Před 4 měsíci +38

      A lot of people have this sentiment but personally I think Pokémon is looking looking at this game, seeing how generally unpolished and sort of minimalistic it is and thinking “Hey, this sold really well, this just means we only need to put it a tiiiiny hit of extra effort in and people will still buy it.” So really it could go either way. I want the Pokémon games to improve, but at the same time I don’t think Palworld’s success is going to be the catalyst that makes Pokémon become a proper triple A worthwhile game.

    • @TECH097
      @TECH097 Před 4 měsíci +2

      TPC and Nintendo are to blame they are the major stick holders

    • @TurbopropPuppy
      @TurbopropPuppy Před 4 měsíci +6

      all you people are teaching game freak is that shovelware will sell buckets if it's "fun" and trendy

    • @Shinmegamitenseistrangejourney
      @Shinmegamitenseistrangejourney Před 4 měsíci +6

      @@TurbopropPuppy ???? I don't even play palword man, I'm not into ark style survival games. I just hope it can do enough in the field to give pokemon a little spark for once.

    • @jonathanflanagan1504
      @jonathanflanagan1504 Před 4 měsíci +8

      I think it's about as likely as GF's dev team getting rushed even more as a result of Palworld's success..

  • @Krystal_G
    @Krystal_G Před 4 měsíci +34

    Okay I didn't know how to feel about the designs until you mentioned it was their first time using 3D models. Now it makes since why it has that Fakemon vibe because it literally is. I mean everyone needs to start somewhere and I hope they grow in their design skills in the future!

    • @AmandaFessler
      @AmandaFessler Před 4 měsíci +6

      I'll do you one better. One of the interviews said one of the designers is literally a fakemon artist.

    • @capvary2
      @capvary2 Před 4 měsíci +1

      i really hope that, definitely would be the good ending! but i dunno, i just have the omen that they ignore it and think only on the money, u know?

  • @FranXiT
    @FranXiT Před 4 měsíci +76

    Honestly. I'd be willing to give this game a chance, but my GOD some of the shills I see online turn my opinion of the game from nuanced to literal trash. No, this isn't the damn game of the year. I wouldn't even say it as a joke, let alone unironically.

    • @PixelCollie
      @PixelCollie Před 4 měsíci +22

      Yeah a lot of palworld fans have been pretty insufferable

    • @juicyjuustar121
      @juicyjuustar121 Před 4 měsíci +10

      Both the haters and the shills are overblowing the whole situation imo, and I say this as someone who *was* one of those haters until a friend bought the game for me. The game is like an 8/10 at best, could become better with updates, and frankly it's an entirely different genre than Pokemon, so it's not going to be competition for said franchise at the end of the day, so idk why all the bootlickers keep calling it the Pokemon killer. And god people are acting like half the designs are 1:1 ripoffs of Pokemon, when there's only like maybe 10 of them that can be considered ripoffs

    • @cathygrandstaff1957
      @cathygrandstaff1957 Před 4 měsíci +8

      Yeah. I think the worst for me is the ones trying to excuse Palworld’s copymons by pointing to a handful of Pokémon that are similar to dragon quest monsters. And it’s like look, did some Pokémon maybe take inspiration from other games? Yes, but that’s a tiny fraction of Pokémon while Palworld I get excited when I see one that doesn’t look like a blatant rip-off. I’m still not going to mistake a Dragon Quest monster for a Pokémon or vice versa. I get reflexively trying to defend a game you like but some things are pretty indefensible. Also the ones trying to pretend some really basic base building is somehow groundbreaking. Like I get that maybe a lot of them haven’t played anything except Pokémon (which they seem to be perpetually angry at for some reason) so all this is new to them but I feel like most of the over the top love is people trying to stick it to Nintendo for some reason.

    • @PixelCollie
      @PixelCollie Před 4 měsíci +11

      ​@@cathygrandstaff1957 Yeah I keep seeing so many people obviously burned by pokemon hoping this 'challenges' gamefreak or something. Like they just want to like/hype up a pokemon killer to spite pokemon. I completely get that (havent even bought a new pokemon game since gen 7), but there are so many red flags and problems with palworld I can't see why people advocate for it so hard. But also like, you don't have to justify playing it, just enjoy the game if you want to.
      And the creator loving ai and crypto is a dealbreaker but that's another tangent

    • @RedHatGuyYT
      @RedHatGuyYT Před 4 měsíci +6

      ​@@PixelCollie liking ai isn't indicative that the game itself was made with ai. besides, if it was something you liked that was being shit in due to the dev; you'd probably be all "seperate art from the artist"

  • @creator4873
    @creator4873 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Pal world is just Ark with Pokémon

  • @CloutmasterPhluphyy
    @CloutmasterPhluphyy Před 3 měsíci +3

    I feel atp it's genuinely a hot take to say I still enjoy pokémon SV while also enjoying Palworld. I simply enjoy them separately because both games aren't really comparable enough to say one's actually better than another. Overall though, I like Pokémon Legends Arceus more than both, and if SV went more in that direction with its mechanics and whatnot while also adding level scaling, it would have been a damn good ass game

  • @GenderedMess
    @GenderedMess Před 4 měsíci +3

    What does sort of worry me is that the creators 'Pocketpair' have not fully released any games yet. Nearly every game on their steam page is early access, ranging from 2020-2024. In their other games, there's still a lot of bugs and errors that people have complained about (but has never really been sorted).
    I do like Palworld so far, but I am worried for its future.

    • @lawless7512
      @lawless7512 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Actually they do have a fully released game its just not talk about

  • @LandonEmma
    @LandonEmma Před 4 měsíci +3

    Not to mention slavery, the fact you can catch humans and also vtubers, sounds like a game made for Pokémon degens

  • @mcwildo2617
    @mcwildo2617 Před 4 měsíci +18

    This is probably the best video I've seen on the topic. Your points about how the few rip offs make people think they're all rip offs reminds me of that viral twitter thread that compares like 60+ pals to Pokémon. About 20 of them were 1-1 rip offs or those chimeras you mentioned, there were a few that were kinda iffy and then yeah, stupid comparisons like penguin pal=Pipulp and Depresso=Espurr. I really hope that they remove the rip offs and let their actual original designs flourish more.

    • @PixelCollie
      @PixelCollie Před 4 měsíci +6

      The creator is super into ai so I wouldn't be surprised if updates include ai gened pokemon designs. Yeah it's been proven the current ones aren't but some of the interviews he's done make me worried. I really want to like the game too, but that would be the dealbreaker for me. The game's future doesn't look promising

    • @sadotaku9266
      @sadotaku9266 Před 4 měsíci +5

      depresso espurr isn't really a bad comparison. The shapes are very similar, you could turn an espurr into a despresso in like 2 minutes in zbrush.

    • @hype5456
      @hype5456 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@PixelColliethe creator isn't your thinking about someone else

  • @timebubble8421
    @timebubble8421 Před 4 měsíci +3

    i hate the fact that they stole from people's fanart and how they took things and designs from pokemon. Like there are plenty of artists out there looking for a job that are good at character design. it's so lazy to just steal and even worse to steal from fanart artists because they have way less power to do anything about it.

    • @sonicmaster206
      @sonicmaster206 Před 4 měsíci +3

      They didn't steal from fan art

    • @William99387
      @William99387 Před 4 měsíci

      They didnt steal any fanart tf you talkin about bro 💀

    • @plfaproductions
      @plfaproductions Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@sonicmaster206 they did

    • @-hello6177
      @-hello6177 Před 4 měsíci +2

      that is very strong on assumptions, the fox is just wearing a generic red witch outfit, and the goat is a fire goat as well

    • @timebubble8421
      @timebubble8421 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@sonicmaster206 literally show examples in the video. And i even saw the fire fox design being made in a fakemon art video of some artists that tried redesigning their least favorite designs.

  • @Cuprite1024
    @Cuprite1024 Před 4 měsíci +6

    I'm fairly neutral about this whole thing overall, but I *do* think most people are overreacting about it. There are questionable designs and stuff, yes, but MANY of the comparisons people make are just... "Oh no, it's the same animal as this Pokémon," or "Oh no, it has vague similarities to this Pokémon that are fairly generic." If you're gonna point out potential plagiarism in a game, point out the ones that can *reasonably* be seen as such. Not just "Oh no, there's a fire fox (Something so generic that a whole web browser is named that)."

    • @drawingdragon
      @drawingdragon Před 4 měsíci +2

      Tell me you havent actually looked into the plagiarism allegations without telling me you havent actually looked...
      No. The majority of the accusations are NOT boiled down to "it just the same animal." Cremis is literally Eevee. Full stop. Azurobe is literally Serperior with Primarina's (very specific) hair stitched onto its head. Dinossom or whatever it's called is literally Goodra with Meganium's face and flower stitched on and Serperior's tail stitched onto its butt.
      So after that initial wave of "that is literally a copy/pasted Pokemon", you start to look at the other "inspired" designs. And you find Slowpoke's face and Sobble's fin stitched onto a body the same color and similar shape as Clodsire's. You find a Galarian Meowth's face, line by line identical, slapped onto a Cheshire cat inspired Pal. You find Cinderace, complete with his exact same posture, "clothes" patterns, demeanor, except painted green and given more "leafy" asthetic, and Leafeon's ears stitched on.
      You find Silvally's crest. Corviknight's beak, talons, chest feathers, and some of its armor. Mega Gardevoir's dress, posture, and proportions, her "hair" and face structure. You find Blaziken's feathery legs.
      Then, now VERY suspicious, you notice that wolf looks A LOT like Lycanroc - not like Wolf Link, or Fenrir, or OTHER video game wolves that should allegedly look identitcal because "they're all wolves". Just Lycanroc. Then you see a dragon that looks suspiciously like Salamence and Latios smushed together - not the thousands and thousands of other dragons in video game history, all based on the same "animal", Salamence and Latios specifically.
      One case of potential inspiration in a vacuum is not theft, or even suspicious. Literally every single design in your game (except like 4 maybe) being derivatives or blatant copies of another game's characters IS good evidence of theft.

    • @ivybennett2274
      @ivybennett2274 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@drawingdragonbro gun yo my head I couldn't even call 15 of these knock offs, pokemon doesn't own animals and that's where most of the similarities are. Yes some are stolen but 1. Who gives a fuck? And 2. It's less than like 20

    • @user-cv1pj2vv1u
      @user-cv1pj2vv1u Před 4 měsíci

      Someone also pointed out one of the supposed fan art thefts was actually made after pal worlds release announcement, and that the palworld artist is also a fakemon or whatever artist. Even as exact as some of these guys keep trying to sound they are leaving out various facts or other elements and doing little to prove their claims and even then there's holes in peoples arguments. There's a lot of people just overreacting and slinging mud.@@ivybennett2274

  • @literally.just.roms.
    @literally.just.roms. Před 3 měsíci +2

    You summoned the whole Yokai Watch fandom with the Yokai Watch mention. You bring us back to life. Thanks man 👌.

  • @Lord_Oatmeal
    @Lord_Oatmeal Před 3 měsíci +2

    If my "fakemon" that only a few people saw on social media blew up in a game like this i'd quite frankly feel honored that it was good enough. Maybe just me tho?

  • @loganslife3901
    @loganslife3901 Před 4 měsíci +7

    No hate but the manta ray is a glider and Mantyke and Mantine are flying type

    • @Zorothegallade-gg7zg
      @Zorothegallade-gg7zg Před 3 měsíci +2

      Manta rays do move by "gliding" through the water and are shaped like hang gliders, so I'd say Celaray is in the "same concept that inspired a Pokémon" camp.
      Besides, Mantine was supposed to also be inspired after a fighter jet and use Remoraid as missiles. I'm flabbergasted that the "Pokémon with guns" designers didn't straight up give Celaray missiles.

  • @adrianoctavio
    @adrianoctavio Před 4 měsíci +1

    I love how nuanced this video is! It gives fair praise, fair criticisms of the game in and out of the the designs, and admits that people with criticisms aren't just like salty pokemon bootlickers or whatever, and even gave solutions I would be really hyped to see! I definitely have a bit of inner resentment from the fact that I have to double check which discord server I'm about to talk about the funny thing that just happened in my palworld game in to make sure it's not one where people are gonna get really mad and spew into arguments over just me trying to have fun, and a loooot of those people seem to be pokemon fans, but at the end of the day that would just be anecdotal evidence and I can admit that the criticisms are understandable. The game is fun and I'll be really happy to see it through to the end of its development.

  • @GioTheHero7262
    @GioTheHero7262 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Thank you for the video GetMadz 💙💙💙

  • @cathygrandstaff1957
    @cathygrandstaff1957 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I agree about the adventure/exploration genre being at odds with the survival genre because of having to go back to the base periodically. I think the exception is dungeon exploration games like Mystery Dungeon and Etrian Odyssey where you have to go back to base periodically anyway and I could see adding some better base building mechanics to those. Seriously Atlus, if I’m in town for literal in game months to climb a tree I’d like to actually get a house to sleep at instead of always paying for the inn. But on the other hand it would be weird to add a base to mainline Pokémon games because it’s something you have to disrupt your adventure to go back to periodically. Especially since Pokémon centers are free and frequent. Maybe too frequent.
    I think they should remove the most blatant copymons, if they did people wouldn’t feel like they were just copying Pokémon. I can also see what you mean about tracing to learn. I think they probably ripped the models from Pokémon and altered them a bit to make original monsters.

    • @carolthepyro899
      @carolthepyro899 Před 4 měsíci

      I disagree with removing them, mainly cause ppl would STILL compare them regardless. happened with temtem and the likes, no point in removing something perfectly functional for loud morons that spend more time playing twitter than actual games.
      And for the survival aspect, I just cook food and go out exploring, then make another fireplace if I need more food, then finally make my way back to base once I feel I gathered enough resources and captured the pals I need or found.

    • @plfaproductions
      @plfaproductions Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@carolthepyro899 I don't have Twitter and hate them. Those models are clearly stolen, and the only way to not see that is not knowing anything about 3d models

  • @shshyie
    @shshyie Před 4 měsíci +50

    I've been having fun with the game on gamepass, but my god was I hesitant bc of the BLATANT plagiarism in some of the designs, the water serperior straight up yoinked primarina's hair model, contours and indents and all.
    I just genuinely hope they redesign some of the more agregious models, I quite like some of the original designs!
    Also props for discussing the levels of plagiarism and not doing the "nuh uh", "idc based" or "everything is a rip off bc of vague similarities"

    • @capvary2
      @capvary2 Před 4 měsíci

      sorry, what did u exactly say in the final? im not fluent on english, so i actually dont understood ur "complains" (i think are complains)

    • @lawless7512
      @lawless7512 Před 4 měsíci

      I agree maybe they should redesign and while the sanke one has the same hair it could also just be that the hair is a ponytail, but i could be wrong though also i dont kmow where people find they are exactly the saem since the guy who said who had the 3d models are they are 1 to 1 xame out to say he lied and messed with the desgins to fit

  • @XenoKnightAlpha
    @XenoKnightAlpha Před 4 měsíci +5

    I legit don't remember subscribing AND have notifications on, but I haven't got one until now???

  • @great-white-lynx825
    @great-white-lynx825 Před 4 měsíci +20

    If Nintendo does end up suing Palworld AND if it does something, or if the Palworld devs make a decision themselves, I hope what happens is that they do redesign some of the pals to make them more unique, there may be one or two designs that are actually original, but unfortunately that's not the case for most of the pals in the game, that's the main problem with Palworld, it does look fun as heck to play, but it rips off not just designs from official pokemon but also from fakemon and that's a big no go for me and a lot of people, and that's a shame because there is potential in Palworld.

    • @RedHatGuyYT
      @RedHatGuyYT Před 4 měsíci

      personal ethics!
      getting in the way of saying "fuck it" and having fun since ancient times!

    • @drawingdragon
      @drawingdragon Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@RedHatGuyYT Uh... yeah? I should hope your ethics get in the way of your monkey brain acting on nothing but pleasure-seeking impulse...
      And this isn't just a case of "one of the devs has a political opinion I disagree with", which is still an understandable reason to not support a game, but it has nothing to do with the game itselt. Blatant theft from both copyrighted characters AND independent artists (if the Fakemon allegations are also true) is actually DIRECTLY in the game. Saying "I don't care if it's stolen content, it make brain do happy chemical" is a REALLY bad precedent to set for the future, especially for devs and artists that don't have Gamefreak's success bufffering them from the theft without really being affected.

    • @lawless7512
      @lawless7512 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Ome or two original? Out of 133 pals you think there only one or two uniques desgins and all the rest must be colys but not inspired? This games has been in Development for awhile, if pokemon had a case they would've made one but given that a lof of pokemon has different i dont think pokemon has a case.

    • @ivybennett2274
      @ivybennett2274 Před 4 měsíci +1

      One or two my guy there's like less than 15 that are actual rip offs unless ripoffs include "made a monster out of the same animal"

  • @PseudoName.NotReal
    @PseudoName.NotReal Před 15 dny

    I stopped playing the moment i had to wait 15 minutes for my pal to heal

  • @ojukwuojukwu3266
    @ojukwuojukwu3266 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Oh hey it's the guy who getsmadz!

  • @ARStudios2000
    @ARStudios2000 Před 4 měsíci +2

    My first video from this guy, and i love the simple but cute animation!

  • @boonduckgod1655
    @boonduckgod1655 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I can’t believe you guys forgot about custom mode

  • @bonedaddy1729
    @bonedaddy1729 Před měsícem +1

    I mean i did have fun with it but I'm a bit worried that palworld will end up just like their last game

  • @randomname1924
    @randomname1924 Před 4 měsíci +19

    Honestly I really haven't seen much of fakemon "theft" from the Palworld part. Like the flame goat is just...a flame goat, and the Delphox one is mostly a Braixen clone. There was also apparently one that was more blatant with the Hangyu Pal, but at the end the Fakemon came to have been designed after the Pal's first showcase back in 2021-2022.
    Also in on of the developers interview it came up that they had to abandon Craftopia for a while in order to be able to develop Palworld and have now returned to work on and update the game (not to excuse them but if they are willing to go back to the game that is 100% a shameless copy and probably won't give them much earnings from now on, that at least can guarantee that they will definitely not abandon Palworld for quite a time at least)

    • @crustader3755
      @crustader3755 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yeah the accusation of them stealing from fakemon is a bit crazy, especially since the fire goat and delphox have a ton of fakemon that are generic.
      There is like 10 mega delphox Fanart that you can find easily, and the fire goat comes heavily from the old belief of fire types from pokemon being based off the Chinese zodiac, with a goat being one of such animals. Arsox the pal doesn’t even have the samurai motif, just are both red with gray horns and fire.

  • @Marikyuun
    @Marikyuun Před 4 měsíci +4

    No cause why do Kappa and I have the EXACT same experience with survival games 😭😭😭

  • @llama4786
    @llama4786 Před 4 měsíci +16

    i think in general the big thing for me with palworld is i KNOW id love this game if i played it, but for now i cant play it just because i care too much about artist’s rights and couldnt be happy with myself if i supported creative “theft” in a professional vein like this. i cant blame anyone else for playing it but i personally cannot.

    • @plfaproductions
      @plfaproductions Před 4 měsíci +4

      Same

    • @diegocaceres3475
      @diegocaceres3475 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Same X2

    • @carolthepyro899
      @carolthepyro899 Před 4 měsíci +2

      this is how i see it. if it's fun and it actually functions and the price is actually reasonable and not 70$ for another "creative" copy-paste, play it. the art thing is baffling to me as most of the pokemons\pals are based on bleeding animals. (as for fan designs, there's so many that overlap is inevitable. you can't make something 100% original in today's age, only improve).

    • @plfaproductions
      @plfaproductions Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@carolthepyro899 don't the come with the same inspiration argument because other monster tamer franchises don't have that problem and the models are 1 to 1 copys of pokemon models in many aspects, the topology, weight map and rigs are all the same and as an 3d artist I find obvius to see that those models are just edits of pokemon models, and the only people saying you can't make new things are the one who don't have even a single drop of creativity

    • @carolthepyro899
      @carolthepyro899 Před 4 měsíci

      they arent 1 to 1, close maybe, but not 1 to 1. that's a lie and a half right there. but even if they didnt copy pokemon, they likely would be compared to other monster catching franchises out there and there's a ton of designs. overlap will happen. and as the video suggests, there is original designs in the game. as a 3D artist yourself, never call out another artist (Unless it's straight up tracing or anything that actual undeniable evidence) cause it can come back to bite you later when you make something and suddenly that thing gets compared to something else someone else made.

  • @unironicallydel7527
    @unironicallydel7527 Před 4 měsíci +13

    The only real shady thing I will say that palworld most definitely IS, would be thats its almost nothing like the trailers.

    • @lawless7512
      @lawless7512 Před 4 měsíci +2

      What you mean its not like the trailer's? Its in beta rn not fully released

    • @M3rce6
      @M3rce6 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Still early access

    • @unironicallydel7527
      @unironicallydel7527 Před 4 měsíci

      @@lawless7512no excuse. The latest trailer shows how far along the game ACTUALLY is. The earlier trailers were straight up lies. As much as I love the game, thats a BIG fault I can, and will acknowledge. Pocketpair has done this before with Craftopia. Early Access is NOT an excuse for false advertising.

    • @lawless7512
      @lawless7512 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@unironicallydel7527 the thing is stuff might be added, like many other betas, look at terraria beta compare to the trailers, or some of sonic beta. Betas are meant to change stuff and add stuff. That's why it's called a beta. Call of duty, heck I bet you can find the elden ring beta and it will not be the same. Legend of Zelda beta. Most betas aren't like their trailer because betas are proof of concepts not the actual game it's not just early access it's early access beta.

    • @unironicallydel7527
      @unironicallydel7527 Před 4 měsíci

      @@lawless7512 Again, we will see. I have my doubts any of what you're saying will be true, as I imagine you're a pocket pair fanboy, but we will see. They are a shady studio. I like Palworld. It is fun. Their track record is not a good one, disregarding all the BS AI allegations and pokemon ripoff stuff which, most of that shit is a biiig stretch to even conceive of.

  • @danielstokes2127
    @danielstokes2127 Před 4 měsíci +8

    I haven’t played it but after seeing a list of pals I see several that look good and original but there are several that just make me think of stolen pokemon designs and slight modifications to avoid legal trouble

    • @plfaproductions
      @plfaproductions Před 4 měsíci

      Think? As someone with a year of blender use, I'm sure of it, lol

  • @Squizoon
    @Squizoon Před 4 měsíci +3

    I LOVE THE TOMODACHI LIFE NEWS BRODCAST

  • @lazy_guy_2525
    @lazy_guy_2525 Před měsícem +1

    And yeah that game managed to sell millions and its only early access.

  • @daytonklassen4740
    @daytonklassen4740 Před 4 měsíci +2

    12:49 I am pretty sure that Pal world stole this design from undertale yellow

    • @Cuprite1024
      @Cuprite1024 Před 4 měsíci

      I honestly think that one's just a pure coincidence, considering these two games launched at about the same time (Well, Palworld is in EA, but you get the point). I don't think they'd last-minute copy a design from, not only a fangame, but a fangame that isn't even another monster tamer. I think it's more likely that they didn't even know UTY existed.
      It's a very funny coincidence tho.

    • @scriggle3564
      @scriggle3564 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Nah man I understand where you're coming from but this is kind of a stretch

  • @thewritingrowlet2980
    @thewritingrowlet2980 Před 4 měsíci +57

    Palworld is certainly a game that exists

    • @WafflesKnight_
      @WafflesKnight_ Před 4 měsíci +9

      sadly it is

    • @ImmaLittlePip
      @ImmaLittlePip Před 4 měsíci +14

      and its really fun and addicting

    • @sleepyshinx174
      @sleepyshinx174 Před 4 měsíci +4

      It's one of the games of all time, and I'm horribly addicted.

    • @solarboyaaron4652
      @solarboyaaron4652 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@WafflesKnight_wym ‘sadly’

    • @Jenna_Talia
      @Jenna_Talia Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@solarboyaaron4652 Idk when you're a pokemon fan seeing people go head over heels for what just looks like a mid unity asset flip feels like whenever Squidward performs well in Spongebob and gets shit on for no reason
      also all the pals look like blatant knockoffs/fusions of certain pokemon.

  • @DylanXD-
    @DylanXD- Před 4 měsíci

    i saw an article earlier that apparently the devs already announced their new game so it seems like the money from Palworld's success might not go to its longevity but rather on to the next game and given their track record might just be another "copycat" of an already popular game which is disappointing.

  • @ToastyToast25
    @ToastyToast25 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Even if it is better in peoples opinion, it will take forever for it to manage pokemon in the marketing division, pokemon has aton of ads and commercials, toys, movies, shows, books, and in my opinion i think palworld will inevitability fade out, just like yo ki watch, and others

  • @DragonPilot124
    @DragonPilot124 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I can never view this group again the same because of the toonuki lab videos

  • @polypaul2524
    @polypaul2524 Před 4 měsíci

    Circle at the end with the lizard… same man

  • @TheNoll153
    @TheNoll153 Před 4 měsíci +5

    holyyy shit yo-kai watch mentioned

  • @zackaryevans138
    @zackaryevans138 Před 3 měsíci

    17:20 I am going to say this so no one else has to: “OOF(Mario 64 sound)”

  • @Gidd_playz
    @Gidd_playz Před 3 měsíci

    What animation maker do ya use?

  • @mattinscratch
    @mattinscratch Před 4 měsíci +7

    YO-KAI WATCH MENTIONED! HYPERFIXATION ACTIVATED!

    • @FTChomp9980
      @FTChomp9980 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Fossil Fighters continue being forgotten!😭

    • @plfaproductions
      @plfaproductions Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@FTChomp9980I haven't forgotten bro, your not alone

  • @ThatFlapGuy
    @ThatFlapGuy Před měsícem +2

    Does anyone know how he animates? Like frame by frame or rig?

  • @bernd_das_brot6911
    @bernd_das_brot6911 Před 4 měsíci

    7:45 pretty 3ds homescreen 😮😮😮

  • @DerNimation-qz1tc
    @DerNimation-qz1tc Před 4 měsíci +2

    I thought kappa was a pal at first

  • @Edthecoolyoutuber1000

    Gtemadz, can you please reshare all of your old videos?

  • @Basement_Ckickn
    @Basement_Ckickn Před 4 měsíci

    17:22 I’ll have you know that my dad is VERY good at his job.

  • @uiinpui
    @uiinpui Před 4 měsíci +2

    I did not know y'all had a group channel

  • @okayemjay
    @okayemjay Před 4 měsíci

    Nice to hear some normal takes on Palworld

  • @AX_64
    @AX_64 Před měsícem +1

    Whatever happened to the balatro video?

  • @user-mi5oc2kn1b
    @user-mi5oc2kn1b Před 4 měsíci +3

    Yo-Kai watch mentioned🗣️🔥💯🗣️🔥💯 W

  • @romanhammack1895
    @romanhammack1895 Před 4 měsíci

    18:00 I am this kind of video game player

  • @jamesschafer794
    @jamesschafer794 Před 4 měsíci +10

    they say don't steal from fans, even though Pokémon does and some of the fans who said they stole from found out that the pal trailer came out before they made their fake mon

    • @gatzimitk
      @gatzimitk Před 4 měsíci +3

      Wait when did pokemon steal from fans?

    • @JDReC100
      @JDReC100 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@gatzimitk
      I think he's talking about the dolphin pokemon......
      I think.

  • @user-bc9nq1kz6j
    @user-bc9nq1kz6j Před 4 měsíci +1

    Madz are you still thinking about metal gear, solid piece walker, crossover with monster hunter It’s your video about lethal company and I left the comment there with a timestamp should’ve known

  • @ZeditYT
    @ZeditYT Před 10 dny

    hearing circletoons talk normally is so weird

  • @100onyt
    @100onyt Před 4 měsíci +4

    I just found out this game and no I’m so grateful my fav CZcamsr is talking about it😊

  • @OHshik3D
    @OHshik3D Před 4 měsíci +5

    For now im staying on the wait-and-see side of whats happening here. I also saw that they're making another game that too feels "inspired" so for me the possibility of them moving on feels more likely.

  • @October8426
    @October8426 Před 4 měsíci +29

    I feel like Nintendo is just salty that this indie studio with much less of a budget than them has been able to achieve popularity on par with their latest Pokémon titles.

    • @queendee8809
      @queendee8809 Před 4 měsíci +5

      That’s exactly it, yet they don’t want to listen to their patrons and fix their buggy games😅
      They want to have all the attention but not do the work to keep it

    • @Jcoleot
      @Jcoleot Před 4 měsíci +9

      I don’t think Nintendo cares about this. The only time they came after the game is when someone made a Pokémon mod with a paywall.

    • @plfaproductions
      @plfaproductions Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@queendee8809 I dislike the new games, but the thing is that they put a lot of needless mechanics and details for someone not working hard. The game looks more unfinished than uninspired, with many decisions being made to cut corners, maybe If game freak didn't rush developers to release in a year they could have time to make a good game and polish it to release with less wild bugs, just saying

  • @ashwingfantasy030
    @ashwingfantasy030 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Yes, you should really love a game for the game. Don’t judge it until you play it, but even then don’t be in all the controversy about it 😊

  • @-inFinity05-
    @-inFinity05- Před 4 měsíci +4

    One of my favourite animators! You try to improve your art video by video and it shows. It's an inspiration for my work!

  • @shun0825
    @shun0825 Před 4 měsíci +11

    actually the devs of palworld do connect to their fans like depresso is a fan name and they put in the game

  • @dennkin-qf3hb
    @dennkin-qf3hb Před 23 dny

    You should do a 100 day video for monster hunter world

  • @Bryce_the_Woomy_Boi
    @Bryce_the_Woomy_Boi Před 4 měsíci +2

    Pokemon, but gun

  • @user-pf5uc4ms9g
    @user-pf5uc4ms9g Před 4 měsíci

    There was a paleworld monster that look like mewtwo mega form

    • @plfaproductions
      @plfaproductions Před 4 měsíci

      Yep, they found it in the files, even pocket pair was afraid whith that one

  • @The_Hydration_Police
    @The_Hydration_Police Před 4 měsíci +1

    Wait, that was Barry age 63 not a god!
    Also palworld really feels like elden ring to me cause they got a really strong boss right out side where you first spawn in

    • @rustyybucket4027
      @rustyybucket4027 Před 4 měsíci

      This must be the funniest "This game is like Elden ring" I've seen since Kotaku tried to compare Mario Wonder's online play to it

    • @The_Hydration_Police
      @The_Hydration_Police Před 4 měsíci

      @@rustyybucket4027 how. . .how does that even make sense?! Their online play is nothing alike, they actually have functioning servers!

  • @Keyboard_Spam_Incoming
    @Keyboard_Spam_Incoming Před 4 měsíci +6

    I firmly believe pokemon should never make more than one game a year or hire more than 200 people for the biggest media franchise in the world

    • @plfaproductions
      @plfaproductions Před 4 měsíci +2

      Kinda hard to do that when it is owned by 3 different companies with different philosophies. If Nintendo owned 100% of gamefreak pokemon would be more like botw

    • @plfaproductions
      @plfaproductions Před 4 měsíci +2

      But agree 100%

  • @profpie
    @profpie Před 4 měsíci +1

    All I know about the game is that my friend made a slave factory with sheep?
    Idk bruh it seems wack lol

    • @Zorothegallade-gg7zg
      @Zorothegallade-gg7zg Před 3 měsíci

      Two kinds of Palworld players:
      "Hey, this pal's getting a bit stressed out, time to throw him in the spa until he's happy again"
      and
      "Alright, these Pals have completely ran out of will to live, time to replace them with new slaves"

  • @slidersides
    @slidersides Před 4 měsíci +2

    So it’s not a drop but a cop

  • @Slimeyalt
    @Slimeyalt Před 4 měsíci +1

    YO KAI WATCH REFERENCE

  • @Lord_Oatmeal
    @Lord_Oatmeal Před 3 měsíci

    Never traced spongebob, but did a pretty good shark when I was young

  • @user-ul8hx5hz6z
    @user-ul8hx5hz6z Před 4 měsíci +8

    I think Palworld is trying to use the whole "Pokemon Ripoff" thing as advertising. When the first trailer came out, it was heavily criticized for this, but it was also popularized. I think they saw this and decided to use it. Because they DEFINITELY knew what they were doing with some of these. And they also knew they were going to get criticized for it. Because if you create a yellow electric rodent, you're gonna get compared to Pikachu. Just some food for thought.

    • @plfaproductions
      @plfaproductions Před 4 měsíci +2

      Definitely, and I wouldn't give a dam if they didn't cross the limit stealing models, this game shouldn't legally exist, lol. palworld just isn't wasworld because of legal loopholes

    • @scriggle3564
      @scriggle3564 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@plfaproductionsgame is legal lol wdym. If it wasn't Nintendo would have sued by now

    • @plfaproductions
      @plfaproductions Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@scriggle3564 actually they need to build a case before suing sinse palworld didn't use any trademarked word

    • @scriggle3564
      @scriggle3564 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@plfaproductions I promise you they have nothing on that game. Pokemom doesn't own the monster catching genre. Plus, the designs are legally distinct.

    • @plfaproductions
      @plfaproductions Před 4 měsíci

      @@scriggle3564 bold of you assume I don't know that sinse I made games on that genere you fool, I'm not a nintendrone I just don't suport theft, and how is legally distinct if the models were made by editing pokemon models?

  • @gamegeniusisok
    @gamegeniusisok Před 4 měsíci +1

    Wow evil pokemon😊

  • @Undead907
    @Undead907 Před 4 měsíci

    The first time i saw this game on steam I thought it some kind joke about pokemon with guns LOL

  • @FederationMiguelCityIloilo
    @FederationMiguelCityIloilo Před 2 měsíci +1

    What Should Fake Pokemon???!!!! 🥱😤

  • @ericwijaya2119
    @ericwijaya2119 Před 4 měsíci

    I'm not the first but Madz I am just one of many Yo-kai Watch fans who heard your referencing of the series from the deepest reaches of the galaxy
    Be very warned, you have alerted, THE STORM.
    Or rather the Eyeclone lmao-

  • @AstraFulminous
    @AstraFulminous Před 3 měsíci

    Trenzi is an Aipom. I stand by this as a person who hasn't played Pokémon in years.

  • @Tricrace
    @Tricrace Před 4 měsíci +1

    Big question
    Why is human slavery possible in pal world
    Questions that get us demonitised

    • @JDReC100
      @JDReC100 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Because why not?
      If humans and pals are related, and you can catch pals in the spheres, why not a human?

  • @thesithsaiyan4864
    @thesithsaiyan4864 Před 4 měsíci +2

    If I want my Pokemon fix I’ll just go play PokeMMO or read the Pokemon Adventures manga.

  • @ewwitscullen9132
    @ewwitscullen9132 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Debate of plagiarism aside, it’s so crazy how an indie team managed to make a more well put together and better looking game than every switch Pokémon game ☠️

    • @plfaproductions
      @plfaproductions Před 4 měsíci +1

      They got 2 years of development and a good engine, switch games have none of that

  • @CosmicOuterSans
    @CosmicOuterSans Před 4 měsíci +1

    i’m the pal!!

  • @thealien7575
    @thealien7575 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Hi

  • @Dubstequtie
    @Dubstequtie Před 4 měsíci +3

    Honestly, I've always dreamt of making games with aspects I am super inspired by and love... but after seeing Palworld go through the absolute wringer from doing just that... It's almost like people DON'T want fun games being made. Like how someone who doesn't know how to take a compliment so they insult the complimentor for complimenting them.. then later go complain how no one is nice to them, Like geesh... learn what you want lol...
    I for sure think this is going to put the already introverted inspiring game devs into the corner and scared of trying to do anything similar/familiar in their games just for fear of the backlash we've already seen.. despite me thinking game devs SHOULD be taking aspects of games and chimeraing them into one... (I've always wanted games like that.)

  • @gavsterplasterstudios4529
    @gavsterplasterstudios4529 Před 4 měsíci +1

    GET MADZ KNOWS YOKAI WATCH????