They Just Beat Mario Maker But There's A Problem With The Final Level

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  • @Abyssoft
    @Abyssoft  Před měsícem +995

    Edit: IT'S BEEN BEATEN BY SANYX
    www.twitch.tv/lilkirbs
    www.twitch.tv/sanyx91smm2
    www.twitch.tv/jankpickle

    • @DavidWonn
      @DavidWonn Před měsícem +204

      I wonder what event on that day could possibly eclipse this?

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  Před měsícem +140

      @@DavidWonn There a levels to this comment I wasn't prepared for

    • @SilasAdra
      @SilasAdra Před měsícem +22

      Wooooo so close! well they did already win but trying to beat a TAS level can't wait to see how it turns out! Edit: Trimming the herbs has been conquered just in the nick of time!

    • @paulelderson934
      @paulelderson934 Před měsícem +10

      I'm absolutely hyped for LilKirbs beating TTH. He is such a beast at Mario maker.

    • @KingBoo97
      @KingBoo97 Před měsícem +10

      @@paulelderson934 You should be more hyped for Sanyx since he's much more consistent and much closer to beating it (he got to the very end a couple days ago).
      Kirbs would need a big fluke to get it before him.

  • @kylecoulombe7890
    @kylecoulombe7890 Před měsícem +1872

    Update: Sanyx91SMM2 has just beaten this level legitimately! Super Mario has officially been Made.

    • @ItsMeChair1
      @ItsMeChair1 Před měsícem +95

      When the Supa Mario gets made

    • @firemayro
      @firemayro Před měsícem +44

      It truly is the Making of Super Mario

    • @Crim-tz7yp
      @Crim-tz7yp Před měsícem +23

      Maybe the real Super Mario Maker was the friends we made along the way...

    • @pbjandahighfive
      @pbjandahighfive Před měsícem +15

      Did he really beat it though? There is some stuff about what happens in the stream right before "beating it" that looks pretty damn sus. Like for hours and hours dude doesn't ever even get though the first section and then suddenly starts doing some weird stuff with the screen and with OBS (almost as if they are setting something else up in the background while distracting chat...), then sets everything back to "normal" and then like 3 attempts later he magically makes it all the way to the end? Right.
      No face cam, no hand cam, just some weird stuff and a "trust me bro".

    • @williammercer2686
      @williammercer2686 Před měsícem +31

      @@pbjandahighfive He has beaten other difficult levels and has been practicing for weeks before it was even know to be TASed. The first section is also the hardest so it makes sense why he would die the most there, also you can see how many times he has got close at the bottom of the stream. Creating a TAS device and making believable progress would probably be harder than just beating the level.

  • @spencereades
    @spencereades Před měsícem +2039

    There's something beautifully appropriate about the final SMM level being essentially a troll.

    • @mrpojsomnoj3313
      @mrpojsomnoj3313 Před měsícem +109

      Especially considering Nintendo's war against troll levels.

    • @jellycore1316
      @jellycore1316 Před měsícem +20

      Aww, it's true ;w; It's beautiful

    • @SimoneBellomonte
      @SimoneBellomonte Před měsícem +33

      Yes and imho, if this ends up being the final level being cleared, its only gonna be even more hype than The Last Dance tbh!

    • @bepis_real
      @bepis_real Před měsícem +7

      If we're being fair, The Last Dance will go down in history for years and years. The story about Trimming the Hedges will be an extra tale, entirely different from "what was the last completed mario maker level"

    • @ClaraDragonSlayer
      @ClaraDragonSlayer Před měsícem +2

      Trimming the Herbs just got cleared by a French player.

  • @mukiex4413
    @mukiex4413 Před měsícem +1819

    Could you imagine if they'd already done it when he revealed? "MAAAN this was a bullshit hard stage"
    "WTF BRUV I BEAT IT WITH A ROBOT"

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  Před měsícem +359

      There was a question on if this info should be revealed before someone beats it, but obviously it was decided to release the info publically not long after it was revealed.

    • @ohno5559
      @ohno5559 Před měsícem +21

      Didn't this exact thing happen with another one of the same person's stages

    • @MadVampire-CM
      @MadVampire-CM Před měsícem +54

      @@ohno5559 yeah bombs5 was beaten legit by fast and tea (see 13:52) before ahoyo confessed

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Před měsícem +3

      ​@@MadVampire-CMSo you're saying fast and tea are bots?

    • @MadVampire-CM
      @MadVampire-CM Před měsícem +15

      @@CptJistuce no, gods at the game

  • @pubcle
    @pubcle Před měsícem +2220

    Honestly, I feel for both parties here. The ability to implement TAS in this way is a fantastic accomplishment when no one thought it possible, & it would have been a really cool reveal if it had gone off as he wanted it to. It is extremely unfortunate how things played out & that the public pressure mounted likely making it difficult for him to come forward. That is not to excuse him but it is understandable & appreciable as he had to come forward & face the mess he had completely unintentionally created.

    • @pubcle
      @pubcle Před měsícem +99

      @@aaakkk112 Okay, it's not incredibly out there, it's not a totally untouched field, but it had not been applied here. Innovation is not solely generative but heavily iterative. Nobody else was doing it, nobody else thought it could be implemented, nobody else had put in the work to try to do so.
      I think downplaying it so much when it was something others had explored & debated for years but not found a good implementation is a massive disservice. Even if the end solution seems obvious in hindsight.

    • @permafrostyx
      @permafrostyx Před měsícem +29

      @@pubcle its a shame he didnt talk about it for years i guess he mustve thought it not that impressive or cool 😔

    • @codetaku
      @codetaku Před měsícem +121

      @@pubcleThe dude literally picked the most obnoxious possible time for the community to come clean.
      Any time before The Last Dance was completed: ideal time to admit it
      Right after the first clear for the TAS level: second best time to admit it (the fanfare escalates into "by the way, you guys went the extra mile and beat the bonus% level")
      Right as the deadline hits if the level is never cleared: third best time to admit it. A disappointment will turn into a sigh of relief: secretly, the game had been beaten all along. The tension doesn't go away so there's still at least something to celebrate that people are ready for.
      Instead, he picked "between The Last Dance being completed and the server deadline". All possibility of fanfare completely petered out. The tension of the challenge disappeared. He literally ruined the challenge for everyone.
      He knew about this push for *weeks,* including that his level was one of the last few uncleared levels. He had so much time to make it right, so that The Last Dance could get the fanfare it deserved. The way he chose to reveal truly was an asshole move.

    • @pubcle
      @pubcle Před měsícem +147

      @@codetaku You're not considering the position or the pressure or the self-convincing that maybe the community will complete it or anything of that sort. Yes, it was the wrong thing to do to let it sit this long, undoubtedly, but it's a very human error to make that I could see anyone making under the pressure at the time.

    • @Arassar
      @Arassar Před měsícem +17

      Why did he even consider making it a SECRET in the first place?! I don't buy the story.

  • @schwiftyizzy7243
    @schwiftyizzy7243 Před měsícem +374

    Update: Sanyx91smm2 has beat the final level! April 4th or 5th there is a VOD and he beat it. What a mad man.

    • @avefig5809
      @avefig5809 Před měsícem +6

      That was crazy

    • @justindowning3845
      @justindowning3845 Před měsícem +7

      The hero I didn't know I needed🎉 thanks for the news

    • @Arizona9001
      @Arizona9001 Před 23 dny

      Bruh why you just decide to lie in the comments?

    • @CamyWFC
      @CamyWFC Před 12 dny

      ​@@Arizona9001you might be stupid mate

  • @courageousdad757
    @courageousdad757 Před měsícem +358

    The fact that the Wii U had 11 years of online service, but the original Wii only had FIVE (six counting online multiplayer games), is WILD.

    • @alisona.4166
      @alisona.4166 Před měsícem +104

      It was being hard carried by the 3DS servers being so intertwined.

    • @ayansharma7572
      @ayansharma7572 Před měsícem +3

      yeah

    • @PhilipWester
      @PhilipWester Před měsícem +1

      The Wii's online multiplayer functionalities were shut down because they were done through Gamespy, a third party, and Gamespy shut down that part of their business.

    • @courageousdad757
      @courageousdad757 Před měsícem +3

      @@PhilipWester it sucks to know the truth that Nintendo couldn't keep the Wii's online services running because of another company's shutdown.

    • @Caketurtle7
      @Caketurtle7 Před 25 dny

      Womp womp

  • @KyrosQuickfist
    @KyrosQuickfist Před měsícem +470

    If this was revealed in 2017, Ahoyoo would have been legendary in multiple different ways. Now we have a situation where bombs5 (arguably a more important level for Mario Maker's history) now being an illegitimate upload. At least it has two legit clears. It's still a bad timeline outcome that could have easily been way better. Also, the most annoying part about not knowing the inputs for the momentum control was because you can't see them on-screen because when mario is spinning, the left/right inputs in midair for the momentum control cannot be verified.

    • @marzipancutter8144
      @marzipancutter8144 Před měsícem +5

      If it's tased though he could maybe release the initial file, or redo the Tas clear with an input display (If he still has the data).

    • @Jadez1207
      @Jadez1207 Před měsícem +12

      For real, he had 5 years to fess up, I would've done it after like a month or so of no attention rather than letting it get to this point, then he gets popular and the community has an amazing new tool.

    • @TheLifeLaVita
      @TheLifeLaVita Před 14 dny +1

      @@Jadez1207 that would ruin it because people generally have this tas allergy for no reason. While they should celebrate something like that

    • @notsmoothie
      @notsmoothie Před 13 dny +1

      ​@@TheLifeLaVita for no reason 😂 tasing something and not telling people is cheating, there, got you a reason

    • @TheLifeLaVita
      @TheLifeLaVita Před 13 dny

      @@notsmoothie you are part of the problem. you don't get it

  • @Dorumon21
    @Dorumon21 Před měsícem +549

    the fact they were told it was done in tas, still insist they going to run and clear it is amazing dedication, if someone actually clears it legit, it be a heck of a victory considering the deadline.

    • @MoneyManHolmes
      @MoneyManHolmes Před měsícem +14

      They need to either clear it or present the cheating admission to Nintendo for them to investigate and, if appropriate, officially delete the level for violating ToS. Those are the only 2 ways for the 0% challenge to be completed before the deadline.

    • @BrawlLegendLink
      @BrawlLegendLink Před měsícem +25

      ​@@MoneyManHolmesnot at all. The policy is that only legitimately uploaded levels need to be cleared. Also every single illegitimate or now impossible (due to global patches) level remaining has a hacked clear.

    • @DiscGolfLeagueMVP
      @DiscGolfLeagueMVP Před měsícem +2

      Speedrunners are something else lmao

    • @SimoneBellomonte
      @SimoneBellomonte Před měsícem +13

      @@MoneyManHolmes Uhm, no, even if the level upload was cheated, its still very much a doable level, sure its insanely hard, and probably the hardest level of them all, but as long as its possible, then who tfruckinghell even cares, and if people manage to even CLEAR this 1, its gonna be even more hype, cut out the villainizing, the guy came clean about it, and thats all that matters in the end, no ill and / or bad intentions meant is what really counts.

    • @SimoneBellomonte
      @SimoneBellomonte Před měsícem +5

      @@MoneyManHolmes And also, not to mention that its not even that long like the Muncher Stairs,.

  • @omlett6482
    @omlett6482 Před měsícem +379

    I really hope someone clears THH legit, that would be such a sick ending to the 0% saga.

    • @axoshlotl2255
      @axoshlotl2255 Před měsícem +16

      ​@@bunnybitchhwell he explained how it would be possible and said that people are still trying so... what do you know

    • @KingBoo97
      @KingBoo97 Před měsícem +40

      Sanyx literally almost beat it twice, it's very doable and much harder levels have been beaten humanly

    • @bllllood
      @bllllood Před měsícem +6

      @@KingBoo97 so much determination...also is jankypickle out of the race ? he's not in his runners list

    • @KingBoo97
      @KingBoo97 Před měsícem +7

      @@bllllood Idk but out of the players who are tying it Sanyx is undoubtedly the most talented and capable of it, and with the best consistency by far

    • @matt-hx8uc
      @matt-hx8uc Před měsícem +4

      ​@@KingBoo97Kirbs and Sanyx are both* undoubtedly talented and capable enough to beat it. Sanyx has played/streamed the level at least 25 hours more than Kirbs has

  • @TheRileyC
    @TheRileyC Před měsícem +889

    It’s so poetic that the last dance was the last level to be cleared!

    • @DeadCatX2
      @DeadCatX2 Před měsícem +17

      🎶 Last dance with Mari-o, one more time to kill the gaaaaaame (apologies to Tom Petty)

    • @nate7251
      @nate7251 Před měsícem +4

      @therileyc what about 81 mid-airs ???

    • @asterpw
      @asterpw Před měsícem +43

      Also poetic that the level everyone thought was the last level turned out to be an elaborate troll. Fitting for Mario Maker.

    • @PRT95
      @PRT95 Před měsícem +11

      I'm inclined to believe it was the last one uploaded to the servers before they stopped accepting new submissions.
      I could be wrong.
      Still, it fits. Perfectly.

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Před měsícem +8

      Operation: Last Dance.*
      *There may, in fact, be one more dance. Also, R-Type owns the phrase "last dance" in my head now.

  • @damiencouturee6240
    @damiencouturee6240 Před měsícem +613

    9:40 "on the surface, this may not look difficult..."
    Uhh, yeah it does lmfao. What are you smokin abyssoft 😅❤

    • @robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708
      @robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708 Před měsícem +52

      I mean, relatively compared to the other levels left

    • @Someguyhere111
      @Someguyhere111 Před měsícem +18

      Smokin' that trimmed herb

    • @pillshatner6741
      @pillshatner6741 Před měsícem +36

      To outsiders who don't play kaizo or romhacks and such they can't even imagine the precision that goes into these stages they just see Mario jump short and shit hell u show em a auto hold jump level and they wud be impressed

    • @Electric0eye
      @Electric0eye Před měsícem +17

      It looks difficult, but without context you'd never guess that it might not even be possible.

    • @xzxInuxzx
      @xzxInuxzx Před měsícem +1

      I mean what, you just gotta push some buttons? Can't be harder than working a 10 hour shift... obviously satirical lol. I gave up just looking at the screen let alone before Mario even started moving.

  • @SpectreXS
    @SpectreXS Před měsícem +323

    Honestly, I think this adds even more to the storyline: The final frontier of SMM being Man vs Machine.

    • @andy4an
      @andy4an Před měsícem +13

      I'm guessing you weren't in the team 0% discord counting down the last levels...
      If you're hearing about the conclusion now, you're also hearing about the end drama at the same time you heard about the end.
      It's anti climactic as hell for all of us watching the end with baited breath...
      Who spent the last couple of days with only one left hoping for a final celebration...
      And then discover that the success happened days ago without anyone noticing.
      It feels like we were robbed of our celebration.
      I wish he had admitted it was TAS when there was at least one other legit level left

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Před měsícem +14

      ​@@andy4anThat's one way to look at it.
      The other way of looking at it is that this level is known clearable, and zero means zero. Operation Last Dance is not the final stage, unless you're a lazy quitter.

    • @Oakshield2
      @Oakshield2 Před měsícem +1

      Yeah. I realized while watching this video that I really don't care that someone beat a level with a robot, more power to them. But when you put it like that it's actually kinda compelling.

    • @Ultimaximus
      @Ultimaximus Před měsícem +1

      If the level was uploaded illegitimately, I don't mind if it is cleared illegitimately. There's not enough time left anymore (thanks to Ahoyo admitting it so late), but it would've been great if other people went to just make the TAS inputter themselves as a means of beating the level

    • @tristangribble4171
      @tristangribble4171 Před měsícem +3

      Mann vs. Machine

  • @reptiledisfunction9232
    @reptiledisfunction9232 Před měsícem +95

    guy who beat the muncher stairs had a run that died to the last muncher 😭

  • @JimMilton-ej6zi
    @JimMilton-ej6zi Před měsícem +128

    13:53 using "the community couldn't do it, therefore he couldn't" is a flawed argument, the community is tiny compared to actual players, and an individual doesn't need to be in the community to play well.
    Waverace 64 community learned that the hard way, a japanese guy tried to claim that he held the wave race 64 world record for 18 years, but the community said "our community didn't get that advanced until 2014, so you are lying" but no, it turned out that he had a vhs tape of his attempt and he had that world record and used techniques the community took years to even learn, even longer for them to master those tricks.
    I can't take anyone who says "the community of a couple hundred people don't do that so the millions of other players don't either" seriously because it's flawed, short sighted and is something only ignorant people say.

    • @masterjosh778
      @masterjosh778 Před měsícem +12

      Completely agree lol, these types are just seeking any bit of validation in their lives they can cling to

    • @kiethuynh9754
      @kiethuynh9754 Před měsícem +5

      Well that's some gamers for you

    • @3possumsinatrenchcoat
      @3possumsinatrenchcoat Před měsícem +32

      that's the thing that drives me up the wall at some of these Speedrun History type videos. just treats the entire rest of the seven billion people outside of their twenty person discord server as some unknown void that can't possibly have any talent or knowledge of Their Game whatsoever.

    • @paultapping9510
      @paultapping9510 Před měsícem +22

      or the GoldenEye Facility clear where the guy knew from back in the day that looking at the ground made you move faster (a tech I remember as being quite prevelant at the time), but no-one in the modern day speedrun scene had realised that.

    • @JimMilton-ej6zi
      @JimMilton-ej6zi Před měsícem +18

      ​@@3possumsinatrenchcoat Yeah it bugs me a lot as well, idk why it's speedrunning communities in particular that act this way the most but it's easily the biggest reason why I stopped doing speedrunning stuff myself, they're just unable to look outside of the community even though the community often times makes up way less than 1% of the total number of players.

  • @harrisonfackrell
    @harrisonfackrell Před měsícem +42

    As of today, they've managed to clear Trimming the Herbs legitimately, which is frankly even more hype.

  • @jamesknapp64
    @jamesknapp64 Před měsícem +101

    The underrated part of all this, someone cleared Bombs Five *A TAS ONLY LEVEL*.

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Před měsícem +15

      Clearly it isn't a TAS-only level. :P

    • @kiilgore806
      @kiilgore806 Před měsícem +46

      From what I've heard, Bombs Five wasn't made with TAS in mind, but was just cleared with TAS.
      TTH was made with TAS in mind.

    • @animefan7424
      @animefan7424 Před měsícem +2

      Beast needle was suspected to have been cheated it was beaten

    • @FUGP72
      @FUGP72 Před měsícem +2

      It obviously wasn't TAS only. IT was just TAS to the uploader because they were not good enough.

    • @KCzz15
      @KCzz15 Před měsícem +9

      @@FUGP72
      Nearly, he was good enough but forced to stop due to health issues.

  • @SuperShadow64
    @SuperShadow64 Před měsícem +34

    IT'S BEEN CLEARED IT'S BEEN CLEARED THEY DID IT THEY TRIMMED THE HERBS

  • @cinnamonsugarcourtney6073
    @cinnamonsugarcourtney6073 Před měsícem +79

    I know at least 1 person has done the first few jumps, and after the area you have to thread the needle to the end but putting it all together is a whole other kettle of fish

    • @JPK314
      @JPK314 Před měsícem +18

      Sanyx has gotten all the way to the last piranha

    • @skyleite
      @skyleite Před měsícem +2

      There’s literally a clip of someone doing that in the video

    • @reaperofburgers
      @reaperofburgers Před měsícem +13

      ​@@skyleite Yeah... The clear video by the creator. Which was tas'd. You know, the whole point of the video?

  • @gameandhike5844
    @gameandhike5844 Před měsícem +17

    IMO he probably didn’t expect it to take that long since Bombs 5 was thought to be the harder level and it fell within a few days . I bet the main reason he didn’t come forward earlier was because he wanted people to actually clear it and have the satisfaction of winning and never expected it to be the final level.

  • @vladspellbinder
    @vladspellbinder Před měsícem +17

    7:03 This got to laugh. So thanks for that.
    It really is a shame "The Last Dance" didn't get to be the celebrated final level it should have been.
    Thanks for the video.

    • @crazyluigi6664
      @crazyluigi6664 Před měsícem

      We can say it was the true final level and the other level was the secret final level. I mean, why not?

  • @legend3454
    @legend3454 Před měsícem +82

    I do genuinely hope someone manages to clear it. Even if it was uploaded illegitimately, it will still linger in everyone's minds if it remains uncleared unless it's irrefutably proven to be impossible and not just almost impossible.

    • @Illdos
      @Illdos Před měsícem +12

      Given how the upload was done, wouldn't it have to be possible? The inputs might have been preprogrammed, but physically there shouldn't be anything that prevents someone from executing them.

    • @legend3454
      @legend3454 Před měsícem +7

      @Illdos I would assume this is true, but I can't completely say for sure since I know some games do have TAS-only tricks. I would imagine MM1 isn't one, but I'd rather cover my bases, just in case.

    • @Illdos
      @Illdos Před měsícem +9

      @@legend3454 As I understand it (and I could be wrong) a trick being TAS-only just means that it's too precise to be realistically attempted in a run. I would imagine that something like that would be far less if an issue when the task is to have any one complete the level just once.

    • @kingdweeb5065
      @kingdweeb5065 Před měsícem +9

      Tas only is just a way of saying we cant do it yet. For a long while, 0 star in sm64 was tas only. The level of precision is possible, its not like you need to buzz a stick left and right 60 times a second, its just way harder than people are able to do atm.

    • @av2279
      @av2279 Před měsícem +15

      @@kingdweeb5065 As I understand it, there are instances that a TAS will input at a rate of 60 times/second. Those instances are also called "TAS only," just like the ones that require something more "humanly possible," such as precision. So something being "TAS only" doesn't mean that it's something "we can't do yet." Sometimes it *does* mean it's not humanly possible. You have to research each use of "TAS only" on a case by case basis to see what it really means.

  • @QuotePilgrim
    @QuotePilgrim Před měsícem +28

    heh, before knowing how the TAS was done I wrote a comment on the unlisted video by TheRileyC, saying that the people who kept insisting a TAS would be impossible just didn't understand how relatively simple it would be to build something that worked at least well enough to upload a Mario Maker level, and that I wouldn't be surprised if multiple people have independently done that and just didn't tell anyone. That comment ended with something along the lines of "I bet you could do that with something like an Arduino".

    • @RaidFiftyOne
      @RaidFiftyOne Před měsícem

      Okay time traveler tell me... how many lottterys have you won and please tell me what the next winning numbers are.

    • @QuotePilgrim
      @QuotePilgrim Před měsícem

      @@RaidFiftyOne You literally can find the comment I'm talking about if you look through the comment section of that video. Why the heck would be lying about this? I gain literally nothing by doing that.
      Once you know the level was uploaded as a TAS, it's not that difficult to guess how it was probably done and get very close to the actual method. Even before you knew for sure it was a TAS, if you were one of the many people who suspected it was, you could probably come up with a method to do it that was similar to the method that was actually used. As I said I wouldn't at all be surprised if there are other levels that were TASes and the people who uploaded them simply never came out with that information.

    • @RaidFiftyOne
      @RaidFiftyOne Před měsícem

      I meant it as a joke. Like as you whatched the video than went back in time and posted the other comment.

    • @QuotePilgrim
      @QuotePilgrim Před měsícem

      @@RaidFiftyOne alright then

  • @mr.whimsic6902
    @mr.whimsic6902 Před měsícem +45

    This Team 0 thing accidently became an April Fools prank

  • @BaufenBeast
    @BaufenBeast Před měsícem +12

    Sounds like someone actually managed to beat Trimming The Herbs, just in time.

  • @WeaponKnight
    @WeaponKnight Před měsícem +9

    I watched this video a few minutes ago, then clicked on the streamer links to see if one of them was online.
    Turns out sanyx91smm2 had JUST cleared it, and was ending the stream. What a coincidence lol

  • @roland.w
    @roland.w Před měsícem +73

    "This may not _look_ difficult"
    You serious, this level design makes me want to not exist more than I already do.

  • @dragonfluf
    @dragonfluf Před měsícem +146

    flight of the massokists

    • @graciaman
      @graciaman Před měsícem +27

      I cannot understand how people who speak for a living don't check how to pronounce words before making a video.
      He said the H in "herbs" too... oh god.

    • @baddestmofoalive
      @baddestmofoalive Před měsícem +9

      @@graciamanc’mon man. Give the dude a break.

    • @DEMERN
      @DEMERN Před měsícem

      @@graciaman erbcels in shambles. herbchads can't stop winning

    • @slothbin
      @slothbin Před měsícem +39

      ​@@graciamanthe irony. The vast majority of the world pronounce the H

    • @calebbro7902
      @calebbro7902 Před měsícem +28

      Pronounce the H in herb is just where you're from bro

  • @FyrenRei
    @FyrenRei Před měsícem +160

    this one is still such a bitter ending
    i know there's some people still trying, but it just feels hopeless
    at least the guy came out and admitted to it being TAS, yet i kinda wish he didn't, though it would've been a different kind of heartbreak nonetheless

    • @Avendesora
      @Avendesora Před měsícem +38

      I'm glad it came out before the servers were shut down. It would have been a lot worse to find out after the chance to beat it properly was lost forever

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Před měsícem +1

      ​​@@AvendesoraBut now a whole bunch of people have declared "mission complete" and quit. If he'd kept quiet, more people would still be trying to finish the fight instead of shouting "we did it(if 0=1)".
      Odds of it being cleared are worse now for the announcement.

    • @Avendesora
      @Avendesora Před měsícem +4

      @@CptJistuce You might want to watch the video again, because that's as bass-ackwards as you can get. People thought it was finished, and now that they know it wasn't, they're actually trying to beat it.

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Před měsícem +4

      @@Avendesora TTH was known about before this. It was considered a part of "0%" until it was revealed to have been botted.
      And now a swath of the community has decided it doesn't count.
      We are worse off, because EVERYONE considered it a legit part of the challenge before and now only SOME people do.

    • @Avendesora
      @Avendesora Před měsícem +4

      @@CptJistuce People were already heavily suspicious, and we're finding more ways to catch cheated runs constantly. I wouldn't bet on no one ever figuring it out, especially since that was the goal he set out to accomplish, but maybe you're more of a gambler than me.

  • @1Psyblade1
    @1Psyblade1 Před měsícem +7

    Is there a database where people could look for the footage of any given level being beaten for this challenge? It'd be cool to look up your own levels to find people playing your levels.

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  Před měsícem +2

      If you check out the team0% discord (google it, it should pop up) I'm sure someone there will have a resource that can help you

  • @SuperCrazf
    @SuperCrazf Před měsícem +36

    I wish the brave souls still working on the last level the best of luck

  • @troncositos
    @troncositos Před měsícem +8

    With 2 days left... Trimming the wee- herbs has been completed

  • @jamesanderson6580
    @jamesanderson6580 Před měsícem +16

    Didn't realise Thabeast was this good at classic mario, he does an amazing series where he beats every nintendo 64 game ever

    • @pokepress
      @pokepress Před měsícem +3

      And he means all of them.😉

    • @andy4an
      @andy4an Před měsícem +4

      Yeah that's his most popular series, but I've always only watched him for Mario.
      I actually learned about team zero percent from him, as he's Long had an uncleared level series.

  • @ngcf4238
    @ngcf4238 Před měsícem +17

    Wow that TAS arudino setup is crazy! I did NOT expect this video to go the way it did. I was expecting the usual "he claimed to clear this level but actually it was cheated" but then with TAS being considered impossible and then finding out it WASN'T impossible was an insane twist. Thanks Abyssoft I don't think I would have ever found out about this if it wasn't for your awesome channel. ❤

  • @BigBoyAdvance
    @BigBoyAdvance Před měsícem +5

    I think it's understated how hard it is to make a 1-frame input in a 60hz game. Pressing a button fully usually means it won't become "unpressed" for at least 2-3 frames. Getting a single frame button press requires special techniques that aren't consistent, like pressing the button "half-way" or pressing it at weird angles. Then there's the difficulty of pressing it for 1 frame on the correct frame, multiple times in a row. This is why people started doing TASes, because doing it manually is just too daunting.

    • @lookas170
      @lookas170 Před měsícem +1

      thats not the point, the point of ahoyo was just to showcase how it was possible to make a tas for mario maker at that time. tth also doesnt have any 1 frame input. theres also some people who are pretty consistent at these 1 frame inputs normally.

    • @BigBoyAdvance
      @BigBoyAdvance Před měsícem

      the video clearly says tth has 1 frame inputs

    • @lookas170
      @lookas170 Před měsícem +2

      @@BigBoyAdvance 1frame timing inputs not 1 frame press inputs

    • @N12015
      @N12015 Před 4 dny

      @@lookas170 but in this case they are pressing then releasing immediately.

  • @electroflame6188
    @electroflame6188 Před měsícem +9

    should've waited to make the video man

  • @delaneyelekes8660
    @delaneyelekes8660 Před měsícem +172

    Honestly, I don't blame the guy. He obviously didn't intend to take away any sense of victory when he did this, it just happened that way in the end by pure chance. I'm sure even he partially expected someone to eventually beat it after lots of grinding- it was up for a long time.
    It gave us a cool end-story for Mario Maker anyways, so I don't feel he completely robbed people of excitement. Practically everyone's heard this story.

    • @Arassar
      @Arassar Před měsícem +32

      I totally blame the guy.

    • @nhooj8882
      @nhooj8882 Před měsícem +25

      Right, like, it's still humanly possible. If there wasn't a deadline it really wouldn't be such a big deal. If someone does manage to beat it before the deadline then it'll be an even bigger achievement imo. And if they don't then it was TASed anyway, so it's mostly win-win. It's just a shame it wasn't revealed to be TASed sooner so that they had more time to grind for it.

    • @Electric0eye
      @Electric0eye Před měsícem +23

      He might have had good intentions, no way to know. But he chose the worst possible time to come clean. It was a shitty thing to do.

    • @comfyghost
      @comfyghost Před měsícem +15

      he even said "i know this is possible" and the fact there's still people grinding it shows they think it's possible too.

  • @d2dominoes807
    @d2dominoes807 Před měsícem +10

    10 million levels in smm? I'm scared for what smm2 0% journey will look like haha

    • @mr_red3
      @mr_red3 Před měsícem

      Especially since levels aren’t deleted because they got too little likes in SMM2

  • @MickeyRudy
    @MickeyRudy Před měsícem +6

    Sanyx because the first legit human clear of TTH tonight.

  • @martymcfly88mph35
    @martymcfly88mph35 Před měsícem +107

    Its probably good that he didnt reveal his method early on, otherwise there'd have been tons of TAS levels uploaded that no one would be sure of.

    • @DeadCatX2
      @DeadCatX2 Před měsícem +36

      That's what I was thinking, too. Hardware hackers are harder to find than software hackers. Imagine if this had become widespread... a lot of records are not sus bc this guy kept his trick under wraps.

    • @WillACarpenter
      @WillACarpenter Před měsícem +21

      The uploads have been done since 2017. so he's had 6+ years to come clean with no downside.

    • @WillACarpenter
      @WillACarpenter Před měsícem +14

      @@DeadCatX2 That's only an excuse until the day the levels stopped being uploaded.

    • @LilacMonarch
      @LilacMonarch Před měsícem +2

      He could have revealed it anytime after March 31, 2021. That's about 3 years he had to do it

    • @3possumsinatrenchcoat
      @3possumsinatrenchcoat Před měsícem +12

      ​@@LilacMonarchat which point he'd long-since left the community, iirc. he couldn't exactly see into the future that 0% would be a thing, my guess is back then he figured it fell into the void of uncleared levels and no one would care, or he just forgot about it completely until people started figuratively breaking down his doors on SM about it

  • @Kosmicd12
    @Kosmicd12 Před měsícem +6

    featured as the example of easy gameplay 😎

    • @sjn6112
      @sjn6112 Před měsícem

      that's really funny actually

  • @lucasrittner
    @lucasrittner Před měsícem +3

    I like how TTH is the extra secret quest after you beat a game

  • @TehAwesomer
    @TehAwesomer Před měsícem +10

    8:11 - Wow, a THAB crossover! That was unexpected, but I guess it shouldn't have been, I just only watch his "Playing All The N64 Games, Yes, All of Them" series.

    • @stortsy8873
      @stortsy8873 Před měsícem +1

      Stoked to see THAB too, love that series.

    • @derpdee63
      @derpdee63 Před měsícem +1

      Oh yeah he’s cracked at SMM, which is honestly all I know him for. He got first clear on two of the last 25 levels, and if I’m correct was only a couple hours short of getting first clear on The Last Dance

  • @cal_818
    @cal_818 Před měsícem +52

    Dude hard modded the controller for this, that’s some dedication to troll in a impossible run

  • @LUCKYCAT20
    @LUCKYCAT20 Před měsícem +9

    I literally had your channel open on my phone and it comes up a new video. I was so surprised when it showed 4 minutes ago. Love the content 👍

  • @lastwymsi
    @lastwymsi Před měsícem +5

    ITS BEEN CLEARED. THEY DID IT!!!!!!

  • @bradye21playsIndieHorror
    @bradye21playsIndieHorror Před měsícem +6

    Someone finally used those little slots in the back of the WiiU gamepad... To feed wires through for TAS 😂 ... Imagine how broken the game would be though if this became common knowledge.

  • @timtanium7074
    @timtanium7074 Před měsícem +5

    8:40 if you scrolled down the list just a little bit more my name would be there 😭
    But seriously, this is a fantastic video that goes over the facts super well, great watch.

  • @littlemacisunderrated412
    @littlemacisunderrated412 Před měsícem +22

    That's cool to think my levels were technically a part of this history

  • @MrT3a
    @MrT3a Před měsícem +42

    The best time to come out clean would have been the day the 0% initiative started "Hey people, hope you manage to do it. BTW, don't bother too much on my levels, I used a modified hardware setup to clear them, here's how it works."

    • @FUGP72
      @FUGP72 Před měsícem +15

      He wasn't following it. He had left the SMM community years ago. It was only after people actively contacted him when his was last that he had any idea it was happening.

    • @Ultimaximus
      @Ultimaximus Před měsícem +2

      @@FUGP72 In the video, he says "I knew about Team 0% so I let things be until they would uncover it."

  • @jolangdale5386
    @jolangdale5386 Před měsícem +1

    7:04 "In addition to having more shells than an eighth place mario kart player," that *CRACKED* me up🤣🤣🤣

  • @antodouv
    @antodouv Před měsícem +3

    It was a pleasure to be part of that team and clear 500 levels

  • @CallMekwech
    @CallMekwech Před měsícem +5

    Excellent coverage of the topic, thanks for this!

  • @SMPandanic
    @SMPandanic Před měsícem +3

    and now it has been OFFICALLY beaten

  • @ScoutScoutScoutScoutScout
    @ScoutScoutScoutScoutScout Před měsícem +46

    Sad to see such an accomplishment and nuanced situation being written down as a cheater scandal when doing tas on the WiiU at the time is such a major accomplishment and should be treated as such

    • @craigjoe8691
      @craigjoe8691 Před měsícem +8

      Exactly

    • @notapplicable6985
      @notapplicable6985 Před měsícem +2

      Did he reveal it was TAS when submitting it?

    • @DeadCatX2
      @DeadCatX2 Před měsícem

      @@notapplicable6985 No, he revealed it a few days ago, after it had been on the servers for like over 6 years

    • @ThePenisMan
      @ThePenisMan Před měsícem

      @@notapplicable6985 submit it where? When he uploaded the level to nintendos servers no, that was the point. Do you mean submitted to the list of levels being complete? Because he didn’t do that, the list isn’t submission based. The list is every Mario maker level ever made. Nobody “submits” levels to team 0

    • @Epic_C
      @Epic_C Před měsícem +7

      I'm assuming that at the time of uploading it, there probably wasn't a thought that people were going to be absolutely gung ho on making sure every level was completed. It was essentially a troll level until people got so invested in it near the end.

  • @danilobarcelos7307
    @danilobarcelos7307 Před měsícem +3

    I watched this video, and immediately Sanyx clears it, haha

  • @groom_of_the_stool
    @groom_of_the_stool Před měsícem +88

    It's sad the SMM1 database is going away. I mean, I get it, but that's a lot of work from a lot of people that's just going to go away forever.

    • @GeoQuag
      @GeoQuag Před měsícem +44

      iirc pretty much all of it has been backed up by fans so it will still be accessible to people who care

    • @asafesseidonsapphire
      @asafesseidonsapphire Před měsícem +23

      ​@@GeoQuag It's the guys that also have online Splatoon 1 with Miiverse right?

    • @oworth
      @oworth Před měsícem +20

      @@asafesseidonsapphireyep, someone's going to back them up to Pretendo to be archived on there

    • @katacutie
      @katacutie Před měsícem

      Nintendo hates its usersbase, it's been proven time and time again

    • @ThighFish
      @ThighFish Před měsícem +6

      It’s archived on Pretendo.

  • @FramedOrpheus23
    @FramedOrpheus23 Před měsícem +3

    Sanyx beat THH!

  • @bucketslash11
    @bucketslash11 Před měsícem +2

    Trials of Death was uploaded before ChainChompBraden had successfully cleared it, though because it was cleared using hacks it would be sorted in the super-easy category which gives a very very low chance of running into one in endless mode, however they did not publically give out the level ID until he had cleared it first

  • @theimperfectionist3383
    @theimperfectionist3383 Před měsícem +2

    The Last Dance was the final boss, Trimming The Hedges was the secret boss.

  • @vvlaze
    @vvlaze Před měsícem +18

    Sponsor ends at 3:54

    • @Alexander_Grant
      @Alexander_Grant Před měsícem

      Psst, get SponsorBlock. Unless I'm within the first 30 minutes of an upload, I don't see any sponsorships anymore. It's as essential as adblock is for the rest of the internet.

  • @DarkFrozenDepths
    @DarkFrozenDepths Před měsícem +3

    Meanwhile me as a casual Mario player be looking at this stuff like you guys are already using TAS for a legit clear.
    Seriously, the insane skill needed for a lot of these levels makes it look like TAS already existed a long time ago for Mario Maker.

  • @nickk3077
    @nickk3077 Před měsícem +2

    I am surprised with the millions of uploads that we didn't get more absurdly hard levels like the muncher stairs.

  • @wideunicorn722
    @wideunicorn722 Před měsícem +2

    I really hope your channel blows up one day, you really deserve it ❤️

  • @milcmilk
    @milcmilk Před měsícem +11

    7:40 one must imagine Mario happy.

  • @SnarkyLesbian
    @SnarkyLesbian Před měsícem +3

    I'd argue the hardest level ever made in Mario Maker is "Trials of Death", but I suppose that couldn't be uploaded.

    • @Nikola_M
      @Nikola_M Před měsícem +2

      Norway recently found a cheese that skips a lot of the challenge, which might make it no longer the hardest

  • @Rebelglow1
    @Rebelglow1 Před měsícem +2

    It's kinda fitting that the last level to beat in a mario game that hatched from ROMs is a TAS lol

  • @archmagusofevil
    @archmagusofevil Před měsícem +3

    TTH is the monkey paw curling when Team 0% secretly wished for Trials of Death to not get cleared in time for an upload /s

  • @pillshatner6741
    @pillshatner6741 Před měsícem +5

    I don't buy the whole statement of this was the only level ever uploaded with tas or by illegitimate means. There had to be a way of doing it cuz there were levels on smm1 that legends in the community complained about. Always seemed kinda fishy to me and while I'm not as talented as beast or aura..ect I have still played so much kaizo/speed runs of sm64 my hands are permanently swollen and red with arthritis and can't even play things of that difficulty anymore 😢. Anywho did Nintendo find these levels I remember of being uploaded by illegitimate means and remove them or ????

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  Před měsícem +5

      It is possible to hack a clear, for example surrounding an exit with hazards then hacking to get by them and complete the level for the upload, and Nintendo would remove those.
      This was entirely different, it's a just barely possible level for humans and not something out of the question of being done

    • @ChibiInuits
      @ChibiInuits Před měsícem +3

      While very distinct from what Ayoho did, there are known instances of players using other sorts of tools to upload levels unrealistic for humans with a standard controller. One maker held a literal power tool against the right button on the dpad to upload a level where you have to climb across SMB1 vines absurdly quickly. He eventually confessed to this, and somebody beat his level using the same sort of tool a while later. There is also a level where somebody used a controller with programmable macros to upload a level in which the player must do 81 midair shell jumps in a row; for context, this is a difficult trick, and the biggest credible streak of consecutive midairs by a human is in the high 40s. Team 0% views these levels in pretty much the same light as it views TTH.

  • @tombrady1434
    @tombrady1434 Před měsícem +5

    they just need the controller mod to beat the level and voila!
    Jokes aside, the Mario games have a decade old history of "100%-TAS-only tricks being done by humans", so...

  • @Wendy_O._Koopa
    @Wendy_O._Koopa Před měsícem +2

    7:40 Looks like TMNT1 for the NES finally got a spiritual sequel.

  • @DIDeusIratus
    @DIDeusIratus Před měsícem +1

    Such an insane level to the point I thought while watching some streamers attempt it was: "no human can clear this", only to end up being told this. It's kinda ironic, but I'm glad the guy came out about it

    • @lookas170
      @lookas170 Před měsícem

      some players can beat it, but many arent playing it anymore or just moved on

  • @elimann9989
    @elimann9989 Před měsícem +5

    Holy shit it was actually done

  • @FalconFetus8
    @FalconFetus8 Před měsícem +2

    Skip to 9:00
    Holy shit, that's the biggest Wadsworth constant I've seen. I normally love your videos, but God damn you really took a long time to get to the point in this one.

  • @IAWiseoldman
    @IAWiseoldman Před měsícem +2

    The herbs were trimmed

  • @NicoTheCinderace
    @NicoTheCinderace Před měsícem +5

    TTH HAS BEEN BEATEN!
    I REPEAT, *TTH HAS BEEN BEATEN!*

  • @Vidya1496
    @Vidya1496 Před měsícem +3

    So if they beat Trimming the Herbs, is it technically lower than 0% levels uncleared? 🤔

  • @rebornreaper194
    @rebornreaper194 Před měsícem

    This is so interesting, I don't want to go to work and just watch your videos all day. 😄

  • @YoKnow
    @YoKnow Před 3 dny

    This is crazy because that means my crazy maps were completed. When I was playing it was mostly people who were detectives in real life that solved my levels. I communicated with all of them. I found it amazing that they figured it out and asked how. They all told me that their occupation was being a detective witch made sense. I made some trollish levels.

  • @godlyBlade
    @godlyBlade Před měsícem +8

    AI youtube channel will now upload a video titled: "We recently completed Mario Creator, however the last stage has an issue."

    • @renakunisaki
      @renakunisaki Před měsícem +1

      "Difficulties encountered with the end course of Mario Builder"

  • @MarcusMoore88
    @MarcusMoore88 Před měsícem +4

    Video starts at 8:55

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Před měsícem +1

      If you're a lazy quitter and probably the kind of person that thinks TTH doesn't count towards 0%.
      If you, on the other hand, believe 0=0 and not 1, the video starts at 0:00

  • @RahidenChan
    @RahidenChan Před měsícem +1

    Everyone mentions how The Last Dance didn’t get the spotlight it deserved because we’re too busy talking about Trimming The Herbs. And yet, content creators like Abyssoft and Riley are guilty of exactly the same thing: they say “oh yeah The Last Dance was the last level” without actually talking about it in detail and why it was the true final level. That’s the video I want to see!

  • @lyrebird712
    @lyrebird712 Před měsícem

    I normally skip ads, especially those that I've seen a million times, but that segue was too good. Absolutely...brilliant!

  • @leastmachine8693
    @leastmachine8693 Před měsícem +5

    The 'ch' in masochist is pronounced like a k.

  • @SLZeroArrow
    @SLZeroArrow Před měsícem +3

    Its so so hard that the game thinks its clearable yet nobody not even the GODS of Mario Maker can...god dayum.

    • @KingBoo97
      @KingBoo97 Před měsícem

      Many capable players stopped trying since it's not necessary to clear anymore and it wasn't very fun to grind for them. But some of the remaining players who are trying it can beat it, Sanyx is the closest one with a death at the very end

  • @Slimurgical
    @Slimurgical Před měsícem +1

    Tbh clearing stuff with TAS-only tech is something that's happened before. Zero Master did it with E1M8 100% kills in Doom. He more used a simulator to find the only solution to killing everything in that level, but then did it himself. Given enough time, I have 0 doubt the skill of the Mario Maker community will prevail over TTH, but there are only 7 remaining days, maybe 6.

  • @13Graham
    @13Graham Před měsícem +1

    I wanted to elaborate that "nonono" actually goes by "Norway" much more commonly. great video!

  • @psyk109
    @psyk109 Před měsícem +4

    That's just like a Mario player.
    "This level was completed with a TAS and is theoretically impossible."
    "But only theoretically......right?" *continues grinding*

    • @hurricanemk8dx
      @hurricanemk8dx Před měsícem +2

      and then they actually beat it. insanity

  • @haydenhouts
    @haydenhouts Před měsícem +5

    NOT ANYMORE!!!

  • @DemxnTheyThem
    @DemxnTheyThem Před 26 dny

    'Bonk the Bomb Right' sounds like the opening an number for the Imagination Movers or Wiggles adult tour

  • @jeluenhayo2410
    @jeluenhayo2410 Před měsícem +1

    Abyss, if your videos taught me anything it's that "If TAS can do it - speedrunners, eventually, can" :D So I won't be surprised if TTH will be cleared sooner or later as it's theoretically possible.

    • @lookas170
      @lookas170 Před měsícem

      theres much harder levels already beaten like trials of death

    • @jeluenhayo2410
      @jeluenhayo2410 Před měsícem

      @@lookas170 Good, it proves the power of collective humanity :D

  • @dante_power
    @dante_power Před měsícem +3

    Awesome video :D

  • @Gatraz
    @Gatraz Před měsícem +3

    they beat it

  • @devastatheseeker9967
    @devastatheseeker9967 Před měsícem +2

    8:56 what you're actually here for

  • @AshP210
    @AshP210 Před měsícem +1

    I'm really hoping LilKirbs gets the clear on TTH so he can put some herbs on his wall

  • @enthusigasmOSRS
    @enthusigasmOSRS Před měsícem +12

    You should make a longer outro on the end of your video, not necessarily voiced over or anything but just like 5-10 seconds with video recommendations. I like when creators do this because it gives me time to like the video before it goes away on my TV. That being said, I came back on my phone to give you the like anyway ❤

    • @justintaylor412
      @justintaylor412 Před měsícem +2

      You’re a champ! I have the same problem

    • @renakunisaki
      @renakunisaki Před měsícem +2

      yeah youtube's UI is trash so it's nice when the video gives you time to react before it automatically moves to another one.

  • @vasheal
    @vasheal Před měsícem +4

    "The only tas level in history" that you know of.

  • @naejimba
    @naejimba Před měsícem +1

    You know what? If humans beat the TAS level this will be an epic moment in gaming. Bring it on, I have faith.

  • @Jerry_quesoso
    @Jerry_quesoso Před měsícem

    Zamn, to hear about levels that are so hard that make you prone to an injury is mind blowing, like how hard are you willing to push it?

  • @dirkgently6030
    @dirkgently6030 Před měsícem +5

    did you mispronounce "masochist"?