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  • Одетта - Алина Сомова
    Принц Зигфрид -- Данила Корсунцев
    Дата - 20 июня 2011 г.
    Odette - Alina Somova
    Prince Siegfried - Danila Korsuntsev
    Date - June 20, 2011

Komentáře • 141

  • @user-yf5nh4dh8d
    @user-yf5nh4dh8d Před 3 lety +14

    Алина просто прекрасна!

  • @user-ir4dt2sr2l
    @user-ir4dt2sr2l Před měsícem +2

    Так высокохудожественно, так дивно,,на грани волшебного Безумно красивая пара Алина изумительная, прелестная

  • @julannaml21
    @julannaml21 Před 3 lety +9

    Ну Алина прямо птица...потрясающая...

  • @looovecats
    @looovecats Před 13 lety +8

    I have goosebumps. Her use of arms, head and upper body is amazing, her every pose, every gesture and face expression is so full of meaning, as if I were watching Swan Lake for the first time.
    She should always dance with Korsuntsev, he makes her look even more fragile. He also looks better with such Odette!

  • @user-xo9pl4jx2j
    @user-xo9pl4jx2j Před 3 dny +1

    Алиночку видела в театре - это чудо, волшебная балерина, высочайшего класса - нежная, безупречная, да просто ерасавица. Сппсибо, спасибо, спасибо!

  • @julannaml21
    @julannaml21 Před 3 lety +8

    Божественно хороши!!

  • @user-hi3sf2gn5y
    @user-hi3sf2gn5y Před 2 lety +7

    Отличная балерина Мариинского театра! Здоровья, счастья, и благополучия в личной жизни, и новых спектаклей на сцене Мариинского театра! Сергей🥰🍁

  • @am_olia
    @am_olia Před 3 lety +16

    Русская балетная школа лучшая. Алина шикарна, руки великолепные.
    У партнера красивые поддержки. Наслаждение.

  • @user-ws3ps5ye9d
    @user-ws3ps5ye9d Před rokem +3

    Талантлива безмерно! Манерой исполнения чем -то напомнила Г.Уланову, На первом месте не демонстрация техники, действительно талант.

  • @Yalkipalki
    @Yalkipalki Před 11 lety +10

    Боже мой, Алина суперженщина! Я люблю ее!

  • @MsSeasonCycle
    @MsSeasonCycle Před 11 lety +16

    This performance was the most intense and beautiful interpretation of Odette I've seen in a long time ...this role fits Alina perfectly (oh so fragile and stunning!)

    • @galinapopov909
      @galinapopov909 Před 2 lety +2

      This performance never gets old. Alina holds her leg in the back for some time at about 95 to100 degree and it looks stunning

  • @AmyKauai
    @AmyKauai Před 13 lety +6

    The most exquisite ballerina! Every gesture, every look, means something! Such a joy to watch. Such a privilege to be able to view a true artist.

  • @MrSaraBest
    @MrSaraBest Před 10 lety +36

    Svetlana Zakharova and Alina Somova are on the top of the world.

  • @avesraggiana
    @avesraggiana Před 12 lety +22

    Wow. What a difference a few years and a different coach make. Seems like Somova has gotten over "the big girl jitters" and her "extension-philia" and found her own way with The Dance. She gives a polished and affecting performance here, with true ballerina quality. She reminds me of a younger and unmannered Lopatkina; tall, long-limbed, statuesque. Bringing out the Queen in Swan Queen comes easily to her. And even her high, stretched "escaping attitudes" at 1:30 are touching.

    • @luceafarul579
      @luceafarul579 Před 3 lety +1

      She was always a very talented artist with very good instincts at interpreting character. But she has some technics issues that I’m sure she’s working on improving

  • @normamimosa5991
    @normamimosa5991 Před 6 lety +22

    Spectacular: technique, expression, pliability, extension, fluidity, transforms Alina into a beautiful swan queen.

    • @gpopov777
      @gpopov777 Před 4 lety

      Norma Mimosa DEFINITELY

    • @user-ir4dt2sr2l
      @user-ir4dt2sr2l Před 2 lety

      Алина Сомова очень изысканная балерина и напоминает чувством меры и формы Марго Фонтейн

  • @aliceveronica3566
    @aliceveronica3566 Před 8 lety +17

    she is so beautiful. amazing dancer, and those arms!

  • @moushka26
    @moushka26 Před 13 lety +4

    Exquisite Odette! Incredibly beautiful port de bras, among the best I've ever seen.

  • @user-ir4dt2sr2l
    @user-ir4dt2sr2l Před 2 měsíci

    Прекрасная пара Оба танцуют великолепно Очень красивы в танце У Алины замечательный партнёр Алина превосходна

  • @marystucker
    @marystucker Před 13 lety +7

    This is an amazing video. Alina is flawless in her interpretation and brings a fresh look to the ballet. Agree that Korsuntesev should be her partner in that she couldn't do it without him making everything smooth. The filming was excellent in that we could see not only her technique but her facial expressions. Bravo!

  • @user-mm2kc9pd4p
    @user-mm2kc9pd4p Před 3 lety +5

    Молодец держит форму, воспитывает двух девочек, раньше больше танцевала в Ла Скала, чем в Мариинке и внешне обаятельная...🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

    • @iluxa848
      @iluxa848 Před 2 lety

      У нее дочь и сын

    • @iluxa848
      @iluxa848 Před 2 lety

      Некорректно написала, ошиблась, прошу прощения.

  • @dancaes813
    @dancaes813 Před 9 lety +11

    My favorite Swan of today. Gorgeous!!!

  • @alecsia96
    @alecsia96 Před 7 lety +6

    Like her or not, i think we all can agree that she is the most facially stunning dancer of our time. To me her dancing is just as stunning as her physique. Suppleness, fluidity and grace to die for... Heart-wrenchingly beautiful Odette.

    • @jigalipio
      @jigalipio Před 6 lety +1

      Alexandra .Martins her legs are soo unreal!!!

  • @AriadneNoble
    @AriadneNoble Před 12 lety +8

    Magificent performance!!! she has really improved!!! So much more emotional now and wonderful technique!!!

  • @huixue4411
    @huixue4411 Před 12 lety +4

    wow........She really had it in her! I could barely stand to watch some earlier videos that were posted of her. But now, she pulls your eyes to her with her expressive and (now) more genuine and artistic movements.

    • @jigalipio
      @jigalipio Před 6 lety +1

      huixue i felt the same way about her

  • @mariinskyfan
    @mariinskyfan Před 13 lety +2

    They say a diamond lasts forever. Alina is an everlasting river of diamonds. Sparkling and flowing endlessly.

  • @user-bk3uk6le3k
    @user-bk3uk6le3k Před měsícem

    Её роль.Очень выразительная...Класс.

  • @popolon1919
    @popolon1919 Před 10 lety +9

    Wow, Wonderful! Brilliant! No words!

  • @garysnyder6390
    @garysnyder6390 Před 9 lety +7

    removing the fact that she has been criticized for many things and is not liked by many people, removing all my prejudices, alina is an excellent odette

  • @cheburashka19
    @cheburashka19 Před 11 lety +5

    Yeah:) and the wonderful thing is that she keeps improving even when she has achieved nearly everything. She's AMAZING, I love her style.

  • @lakenvelder0pandora
    @lakenvelder0pandora Před 12 lety +4

    It is rare that I particularly enjoy Somova, but here she really gives my favorite swan-dancers (Zakharova especially) a run for their money. She has quite matured as an artist and has the rare gift of acting, especially for tragic roles. She is lovely and refined here, from the minute she bourred onto stage (did I mention I love the way she makes the tutu move when she bourres in place?). :)

  • @esunadeluna
    @esunadeluna Před 6 lety +1

    She has that it factor! Absolutely beautiful!!

  • @simaraft7373
    @simaraft7373 Před 3 lety +1

    Korsuntsev is such a terrific partner! Alina is very touching.

  • @fantastikh
    @fantastikh Před 12 lety +3

    She is do dramatic! Very nice!

  • @jigalipio
    @jigalipio Před 6 lety +2

    even just the way how they pose kills me.. it’s just wonderfully beautiful

  • @user-dx9bn9jm5h
    @user-dx9bn9jm5h Před 4 lety +1

    Чудесно!

  • @Pearlaceous
    @Pearlaceous Před 13 lety +3

    A wonderful performance from Somova indeed: musical and poetic while still remaining within the classical style of the ballet. She is also extremely fortunate to be partnered by Korsuntsev, the Mariinsky's best partner - always unobtrusive, complementing and presenting his ballerina to perfection, and strong enough to make all those difficult high lifts look like fleeting moments of beauty captured in time. Thank you for enabling us to see this.

  • @tommyspencer8059
    @tommyspencer8059 Před 11 lety +3

    Amazing, my favorite O/O ever.

  • @DreamsontheWater
    @DreamsontheWater Před 13 lety +3

    10:41 - 10:46 - Beautiful!
    How Alina she has changed - she has toned down the extensions, and she looks like she is thinking more about what she is doing, rather than just dancing to her bodily extremes in everything. Now she looks like a Mariinsky dancer.
    Now should have been when she was promoted - when she had really improved. They made her a principal too early and let her slowly improve there, up at the rank of the likes of Lopatkina and Vishneva. How do they reward her now?!

  • @emilysmall1
    @emilysmall1 Před 11 lety +4

    Beautiful control and stunning performance.

  • @jengirl2
    @jengirl2 Před 13 lety +2

    Alina is a true artist...expression, emotion and grace. Korsuntsev is my favorite partner; so attentive. Thank you for posting.

  • @user-xu5wm2fg3j
    @user-xu5wm2fg3j Před 4 měsíci

    Чудесная... ❤

  • @Frankamaria
    @Frankamaria Před 10 lety +3

    my favourite dancer so far :)

  • @ChunwingLam
    @ChunwingLam Před 13 lety +6

    She is now much much much more stronger!!! What a perfection.........

  • @gpopov777
    @gpopov777 Před 3 lety

    Alina, this part is definitely a signature dancing part for you. You are an amazing swan queen 👑

  • @rinanir._.2525
    @rinanir._.2525 Před 11 měsíci

    アラベスクで止まる時一瞬たりとも動かずピタっ!とポーズ出来るのが本当にすごい…足もめちゃくちゃ高い位置だし、アリーナはプロのバレリーナの中でも群を抜いてると私は思います!!

  • @antonellapavone3879
    @antonellapavone3879 Před 2 lety

    Splendida, perfetta!!! Tecnica, armonia e grazia si completano in lei. Alina Somova, insieme a Svetlana Zakarova è la migliore ETOILE!!!!

  • @keiseyer5325
    @keiseyer5325 Před 10 lety +7

    she's so amazing!

  • @v.britton4445
    @v.britton4445 Před 2 lety

    Amazing pair of artists, incredibly beautiful.

  • @littledoter3622
    @littledoter3622 Před 9 lety +8

    She's so amazing

  • @user-ir4dt2sr2l
    @user-ir4dt2sr2l Před 2 měsíci

    Алина райская птица лебедь Небесной красоты и прелести Потрясающая артистка Чайковский залюбовался бы ею Кимин прекрасен, исключителен

  • @Tigerheiress
    @Tigerheiress Před 10 lety +3

    Shes sooo long! We dance a lot a like loolll not nearly as good but i have long legs and hyper extended knees and am very flexible! I admire her so much and she is the perfect role model for me because we are actually alike in some ways. This makes me think with lots of hardwork this could be me one day.

  • @TheBallet1
    @TheBallet1 Před 11 lety +2

    she is Odette. beautiful performance.

  • @user-ls3bf1pb8n
    @user-ls3bf1pb8n Před 5 měsíci +3

    Алина - божественная, конечно, балерина! Бриллиант чистейшей пробы!!!

  • @DCFunBud
    @DCFunBud Před 6 lety +1

    Alina was fabulous! The camera work was criminal.

  • @MariaCaIIas
    @MariaCaIIas Před 8 lety +16

    the woman can dance. It is malicious to detract her....
    I do believe and I am serious, as absurd as it might sound, that many of her critics are annoyed by the fact that she is too beautiful...

    • @arepo
      @arepo Před 8 lety +5

      +MariaCaIIas I do not question the sincerity of your "belief", but I hope you are aware that wishful thinking and fact are two very different things. You don't know anything about the background of those commenters and to assume there is an ulterior motive is nothing else but wishful thinking. Criticism doesn't automatically translate into envy, and criticism and detraction aren't the same thing.

    • @normamimosa7295
      @normamimosa7295 Před 8 lety +5

      This is how it all started. When the iron curtain came down, the West was caught by surprise. They hadn't seen anything like the beauty of the current Russian dancers at the time: the amazing turnout, the incredible flexibility, the beautiful extensions, the lyricism, the strength. Alina graduated from the Vaganova Academy and was quickly catapulted into principal roles (2003/4) shortly after the West started learning more about Russian ballet. As the Western dance world was exposed to these beautiful, talented Russian dancers, many were overcome with defensiveness. The online campaign against her beautiful flexibility started. All the Russians have the same extensions and flexibility, but for some reason the critics zeroed in on Alina -- perhaps more initial online exposure than some of the others.
      The Russians raised the ballet technique bar; and it will never go back, because the new height is extraordinarily beautiful.
      She is beautiful, appears to be a lovely person, is a beautiful dancer, and has a beautiful ballet body. She has an electricity on stage that few dancers match. As with all new soloists, her artistry has grown over time with experience; and the combination of talent and growing artistry has landed her in the inner circle of the best in the world, no matter whether she is a personal favorite or not.

    • @comment6864
      @comment6864 Před 6 lety +1

      Hm, have never heard of her..

    • @gpopov777
      @gpopov777 Před 5 lety

      Norma Mimosa . Thanks for such great and realistic comments. Alina is indeed beautiful, talented, musical, artistic, and has these amazing extensions that add to the beauty of her performances. She really raised the bar as you explain in the classical ballet art .

    • @gpopov777
      @gpopov777 Před 5 lety

      John Doe Yes, it is!

  • @user-cm8ep4nb5m
    @user-cm8ep4nb5m Před 6 lety +20

    А россияне балет не смотрят?))) Алина Сомова великолепна!

    • @user-mm2kc9pd4p
      @user-mm2kc9pd4p Před 3 lety +1

      Россияне мировые проблемы обсуждают...🤔

    • @galinakoshman138
      @galinakoshman138 Před 2 lety +2

      Смотрят,😊.И деткам своим показываем,благо много роликов на ютюбе.В театр к сожалению редко ходим.

  • @user-ov7kf7sk2v
    @user-ov7kf7sk2v Před 4 lety +9

    Она живет руками почти как Уланова.Неужели такое бывает раз в сто лет?!

  • @1CasuConsulto
    @1CasuConsulto Před 12 lety +14

    Wow, I actually used to have a negative opinion of Aline, but this video made me rethink my position. Her port de bras are amazing.

  • @Bnesque
    @Bnesque Před 13 lety +2

    Arms and hands, upperbody, yes, and exqusite lines whole of her body and legs make! THE MOST GORGEOUS ODETTE we can see.

  • @nanorikmar
    @nanorikmar Před 4 lety

    maravilloso!! es una hermosa reina cisne

  • @normamimosa7295
    @normamimosa7295 Před 7 lety +7

    Without doubt, she has become a definitive Odette/Odile. The perfect body, suppleness, lyricism and flexibility for Odette; the experience for subtle wickedness from Odile.

  • @user-ru8vy1uz7c
    @user-ru8vy1uz7c Před 4 lety

    Bravo brilliance dance

  • @emiliastancheva9142
    @emiliastancheva9142 Před 3 lety

    Wonderful!

  • @giuliorenzobighin8165

    Ottimo mantenimento delle pose figurali nell'ensemble ed ottima la fibrillazione dei passi sulle punte in eundo veloce della ballerina in questo balletto che contempla quello che con un mio neologismo mi piace chiamare convolo aereo ed elanista della ballerina ottimamente indotto e tenuto dal partner. OOTIMA la levità fluente fatta tensione elanista e motile sorprendente nella ballerina. Ottimo il senso del continuum dato alla pièce danzante dai protagonisti. OLTREMODO BRAVI E SPETTACOLARI. BIGHIN GIULIO RENZO

  • @user-ir4dt2sr2l
    @user-ir4dt2sr2l Před 2 lety

    Прекрасная Одетта Алина Сомова Прекрасная постановка Мариинский Ты чудо

  • @LytseEvi
    @LytseEvi Před 9 lety +4

    goosebumps...

  • @laurafrenkeltarrio3020

    Hermoso!

  • @rabberina
    @rabberina Před 13 lety +2

    1:30 - 1:32...that's called innovation in ballet!!

  • @luisfedericosala1354
    @luisfedericosala1354 Před 4 lety

    Perfect Odette.So charming and sensual.❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @TheSqiu
    @TheSqiu Před 10 lety +6

    Alina here is better, she has matured... but watching Danila with her I remember Danila + Lopatkina, they were unbeatable, in my opinion, far far better, another world ...

  • @Tigerheiress
    @Tigerheiress Před 10 lety +7

    Ok for everyone saying shes was like a gymnast. She is not doing aerials or tumbling passes. I am an acrobatic dancer and ballet dancer. Having high extensions and large combre arches are in no way shape or form dancing like a gymnast. Shes extremely tall so having enough control might have been a problem due to her height so it might have had a rough gymnast feel. I am much smaller so that is not a problem for me really. But acrobatic which is wear extensions and back flexibility come in is one of the most controlled beautiful styles. Please distinguish the difference. I feel like ballerinas do not really understand anything except ballet and judge anyone who does things a little differently and have a hard time embracing different styles and maybe even breaking rules a little. (High extensions) please try and be more accepting.

    • @arepo
      @arepo Před 8 lety +2

      +Queensofprep870 I can hardly believe that all commenters in this thread are ballerinas or former ballerinas. As an side, not every female dancer is a ballerina... in fact, very few are.

  • @MrRight1000
    @MrRight1000 Před 13 lety +2

    @consuelo1962 Except she never ever looked like a gymnast. I liked the earlier Somova as much as I like her now. She always possessed that special spark that spellbound audiences all over the world.

  • @mundamadi--moucheamadi7147

    perfect!💞🌹🌷🌷💖♥️👐👐

  • @gpopov777
    @gpopov777 Před 5 měsíci

    I would like to express personal opinion regarding ballerinas’ tutu.
    Female ballet dancers are usually so slim that wearing tutu seamless boy shorts in matching the tutu colors instead of small panties would not make their beautiful legs short. There are top professional ballet female dancers who wore better covering of their rears that look stunning and professional, and beautiful.

  • @magnumSuper
    @magnumSuper Před 13 lety +1

    well, I told already on some board - she's a swan queen, and that's it.

  • @user-rg2yt9qi2k
    @user-rg2yt9qi2k Před 3 lety

    мне принц понравился, интересная пара получилась

  • @sweetaliena
    @sweetaliena Před 12 lety +2

    I wish they had the pantomime it would have been great and thank God she toned down her extensions! Now I want to see her doing the dream variation in Raymonda.

  • @gpopov777
    @gpopov777 Před 4 lety

    I like so much her extensions. Alina is gorgeous and offers an exquisite performance. Kosuntsev is definitely a great Mach for her.

  • @katharinas2590
    @katharinas2590 Před rokem

    А как она хороша в роли Никии!

  • @cheburashka19
    @cheburashka19 Před 11 lety +2

    Thank you for posting this beautiful video, I love Alina.
    But could anyone give me the link to her debut performance as Odette/Odile?
    thanks!

  • @lsky4446
    @lsky4446 Před 3 lety

    🔥DANCE🔥ALINA 🔥Perfect photo @12:00!!! Fitting extended leg position and time.🙌

  • @HIghballJordan11
    @HIghballJordan11 Před 12 lety +2

    I see the artistry in Lapotkina and Vishneva, for sure. My personal favorite now is Zakharova. But the way that Somova would dance, all technical bravado would sort of remind of bel canto opera. It's about pushing the envelope and not necessarily exploring the art. Which doesn't mean that Callas singing "Tosca" isn't amazing. But sometimes just watching someone do something amazing, even without the poetry, can be great too. At least to me! Hope that made sense. :)

    • @gpopov777
      @gpopov777 Před 4 lety

      HIghballJordan11 I am not understanding you.

  • @dinadarsi6992
    @dinadarsi6992 Před 3 lety +1

    Кто выбирает лучших? Они ведь все одинаковые.

  • @mariinskyfan
    @mariinskyfan Před 13 lety

    @Qbendanny your first sentence is how I always feel about her.

  • @HIghballJordan11
    @HIghballJordan11 Před 12 lety +3

    OK, I'm new-ish to ballet, and I certainly don't have the eye for things that someone who has followed it forever does. Please bear with me. :) Ever since seeing the documentary "Ballerina" I wanted to see what Somova has been up to, so I've watched some of her videos and read some reviews and columns from around the web. And most of the reviews agreed with you about her earlier work. And I can see the difference, even. But is it wrong if I sort of like the crazy extensions and stuff? cont'd

    • @gpopov777
      @gpopov777 Před 4 lety

      HIghballJordan11 I absolutely indulge watching those long beautiful land well coordinated legs and her unique extensions

  • @Tigerheiress
    @Tigerheiress Před 10 lety +5

    What is wrong with high extensions

    • @arepo
      @arepo Před 8 lety +2

      +Queensofprep870 Everything, in a XIX century classical or Romantic ballet. Nothing in modern oder contemporary ballet.

    • @gpopov777
      @gpopov777 Před 4 lety +2

      I am in favor of Alina’s extensions

  • @user-gf3nz4lp1d
    @user-gf3nz4lp1d Před 6 lety +5

    Я одна тут русская? И зачем балет ставить на английский?

  • @user-vo3wl4mm3z
    @user-vo3wl4mm3z Před 4 lety

    2時間練習すると生クリーム食べるんだー

  • @gpopov777
    @gpopov777 Před 5 měsíci

    I am wandering if Mariinsky will ever change the 6:10 positon exposing the rear of the female dancers despite wearing pantyhose, and tutu panties on top of their own , and on top of the pantyhose .

  • @user-ct6wu3zv3n
    @user-ct6wu3zv3n Před rokem

    5:02//9교시//오후

  • @oldoperafan_in_London
    @oldoperafan_in_London Před 12 lety

    I think Korsuntsev is unobtrusive to the point of resembling a coat hanger in the hall. But that's just me.

  • @sweetaliena
    @sweetaliena Před 12 lety +1

    @DreamsontheWater This is exactly what I've been saying. Promoted too early.

  • @user-in1id7nu5y
    @user-in1id7nu5y Před 3 lety

    Мало фактуры для лебедя. А в целом, не плохо.

  • @ganaasukhee779
    @ganaasukhee779 Před 4 lety

    Alina ne ponravilasi

  • @user-ct6wu3zv3n
    @user-ct6wu3zv3n Před rokem

    다먹고톡하께맘^^

  • @user-ct6wu3zv3n
    @user-ct6wu3zv3n Před rokem

    ^^다먹고톡

  • @user-vo3wl4mm3z
    @user-vo3wl4mm3z Před 4 lety

    わちゆれてた来ないでくださいいわれたんだ😢マフィアだからお兄ちゃん

  • @user-vo3wl4mm3z
    @user-vo3wl4mm3z Před 4 lety

    ぶしゃいくぶしゃいくぶしゃいく

  • @bwoodsfinest
    @bwoodsfinest Před 11 lety +2

    I've tried to like her. I have. I just don't see in her what everyone else does. She still looks student like to me.

  • @comment6864
    @comment6864 Před 6 lety +2

    These ballerinas have to understand that from a viewer's perspective, the higher up you raise your leg, the longer it takes, so overall this slows down the flow of the dance. Yes, it is a subtle difference, but you have to understand that it is a constant balance that you can't just ignore for the sake of a bigger 'effect'. Sometimes in order not to sacrifice the overall flow and beauty one has to raise a leg not quite as high. Again, it's a subtle thing and a question of the dancer's intelligence i think. It's a question of putting the technique at the service of the art and not the other way around. Susan Jaffe in my opinion was the epitome of that intelligence. When you choose future ballerinas, you have to look at overall talent and depth of it, not just physical form and ability. And i'm afraid what's going on in the Russian ballet today is just that - each ballerina, even when they're famous, is just a little screw in a huge pile. It's almost like a conveyor belt machine - they have a particular approach to selecting and raising them, but there is nobody to critique it, to improve the criteria, to make it truly intelligent. It's almost like there are too many of them and they are all too much the same, perfect in a one-sided way, yet each not special enough, and ultimately that is bad for the art. This reminds me a little bit of what is going on with figure skating as well. Over time this trend could lead to a decline of the number of 'surprises' (in a good sense) and to the overall degradation of Russia's leadership in the art (though it is obviously still the leader, though arguably only due to the decline in overall quality worldwide)

    • @jigalipio
      @jigalipio Před 6 lety +2

      comment BS. there you are trying to sound smart. take your nonsense somewhere else

    • @gpopov777
      @gpopov777 Před 4 lety

      Baseless and illogical comment