What 3D printing material to use for object inside a car? Temperature test
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- čas přidán 13. 06. 2024
- Few times I wanted to 3D print an object which will be inside my car, but I was not sure which material to use. On internet there are so different information, but they must be different, depend where the author lives. So, I decided to do my own test with 7 materials. On test probes I placed M10 screw nut, just to add minimal load to objects. I chose 10 very hot days in a row, during this test, I always placed my car on hottest sun, turned to the South, but since here in Budapest (45° latitude) summer is not too hot, last part of the test is simulating higher temperatures in oven.
Contents:
0:00 introduction
1:18 tested materials
5:16 about temperatures inside car
7:14 testing from day 1 to day 10
15:57 analyzing test probes after 10 days
17:14 oven test
18:34 conclusions
Materials in this test:
PLA+, Gembird
HT PLA, 3Dee
PolyPlus PLA, Polymaker
PETG, Herz
ABS, Prusament
ASA, Prusament
Nylon, Gembird
(only in oven test) Elegoo Water Washable Photopolymer resin printed on Elegoo Mars
Other materials and methods:
- Prusa MK3 3d printer,
- Elegoo Arduino Uno R3
- LM35DZ temperature sensors,
- Analog 1-100°C thermometer
Budapest Latitude:
latitudelongitude.org/hu/buda...
Test probe can be downloaded from my website:
www.mytechfun.com/video/58
Parked car temperatures:
www.carrentals.com/blog/tempe...
Mentioned Arduino data logger video:
(soon)
Support my work over patreon:
/ mytechfun - Věda a technologie
wow the dedication and sacrifice of this man hopefully u did not get burned
I am fine, thanks, everything for science ;-)
Dude, you rock. I'm watching this early 2024 after seeing so much conflicting info online as to which filament can actually handle summer in-car temps. I'll use ASA for those but otherwise, PETG is fine for functional prints for me. Thanks!
I will now be calling any warping in my prints "stomachs" from now on....I love it.
Thank you good sir.
Interesting. "Stomachs" is also the expression in Hebrew. I wonder if that was imported from Europe. Anyone know where the channel owner is located?
We sometimes say the same thing in french when something starts to get round, we say "ça ventre". Ventre is pretty much the stomach in english.
From now on I'm going to say "I don't have a fat stomach, I'm just warped."
I'm late but it's common in English to call it a "belly" when something sags or dips, which is probably what he meant to say since English is likely not his first language.
@@SwapPartLLC no one said it can be used the other way around
I just wanted to say that, even now, people are still learning from the data you sat in incredibly, uncomfortably hot seats to gather. Thank you! (I grew up in that kind of weather, so one of my favorite parts of living in San Francisco is that it basically never gets above 30° here. I had forgotten about all the times I nearly burnt my legs on hot car seats until this video.)
I'm kinda new at 3D printing, about 11 months now. Without knowing much I printed a bracket with PLA for my 10" tablet to put in my car. It was great the first day but the next morning it had melted and the tablet was on the floor. Your video helped me out on which filament Not to use. Thanks for all the trouble you went through to make this video. It was a big help for me.👍
This is exactly what I was looking for! No lab controlled test, just real life test for day to day use! really appreciate this. I wish youtube pushed his channel up more, I love how this channel resembles what early youtube was like no, fancy equipment no expensive production quality!
hey, i just want you to know that after 3 years, i still found your video helpful :)
Thank you for your time and dedication to this experiment. You have saved me (and others) so much time and help us settle our curiosity.
I was about to design a modified cup holder for my car and print in PETG. Fortunately after watching your thorough testing filament video I will print the design in ASA. Again, outstanding job. Thanks so much.
I was about to do the same thing for a friend. Gonna do asa also
It's people like you that drive knowledge forward, always ready to experiment, a Scientist by definition
Thanks for your detailed testing, time, and effort. This has greatly helped me with my car part making decisions.
I have used ASA for my 4runner's phone dock, umbrella holder and various hooks and parts inside the car. It is an excellent material for this use case and has worked reliably for two years. Temperatures where I live get into the low 100F range.
Given this test, would you ever try to use PETG for the same purpose?
Your video deserves a lot more views. Great video. Well put together with a lot of info and really good testing. I cant find a better video testing different fillaments. Hats off to you and thank you for this *thumbs up*
Just found your channel not too long ago, and I quite enjoy your content. Very informative and straightforward.
Your sacrifice of comfort in the name of science is much appreciated.
Great info at 8:00 in.
Very happy with your testing.
Thank you!! That is the most almost scientific test I have found. The last test in the oven was very conclusive. Well done!
What a 'cool' way to test those filaments.. 👍😁
Thanks for the great info. You've probably saved me quite a lot of failed attempts to make something for putting in the car.
ASA is also much more UV-resistant than ABS, which is important if you print something for outdoor or in-car use. Great test, thank you! Unfortunately, summer seems to be over here in Germany…
But if you paint your print, then there's no need for that UV resistance in the filament. Right?
@@alejandroperez5368 resistant, not proof
@@leew8812 further arguing against the original point lol
Regular glass blocks almost all UVB, and usually the windscreen of a car will have a decent (80-90+%) UVA filter too. It’s less clear to me how many cars have UVA filters on the other windows, and how good they are.
Also think about how much time the part will actually have UV exposure. Unless your car is parked in direct sunlight all day, and your part is going to be getting that sunlight at peak time, it’s probably a pretty small amount. UV exposure tapers off quickly outside of the ~4 peak hours. Even just parking in the shade of a house could halve the UV exposure of a part
Personally, for something inside the car, I wouldn’t worry about ABS not being as UV resistant as ASA. Even for outside the car, I wouldn’t buy a roll of ASA (if I already had ABS) when I’m not even sure if the part will be noticeably damaged by the UV (outside of the basically guaranteed discolouration).
If you have ASA already, and you can print it (it’s tricky!), yes it is technically better. But don’t stress about the part getting ruined because you don’t have the magic filament.
Very well done,answered any questions I had about what filaments to use for harsh environments or any outdoor kinda use really. Thank You so much for sharing this.
Excellent, real world test without all the BS. Congrats!!
Thos test is so helpfull and cleverly designed, thank you very much! It's highly relevant to everday objects! Keep up the good work!
I learned that PLA is not suitable for summer car driving the hard way. My Raspberry Pi Display stand melted in no time. :D
Did you ever redo it in a different material?
You have to anneal it first.. then it will hold up better than ABS / ASA
Such a great video sir, thank you for all your work and time into this project
Nice setup, good test, useful data, I appreciate your efforts, great video. Thank you.
I printed an exterior plaque with raised letters out of PETG that is in direct sunlight every day for several hours. 3 months and it still looks as good as the day I printed it.
I too made plant tags for all my exotics, I live in CA, just went through a few ~110 F weeks....even printed in shiny black PETG(the 20ish usd rolls on Amazon...nothing fancy at all...in fact budget but not too low on the ladder). They all held up great wich is great but none are under any load or stress. I also suspect that anything outside greatly benefits from airflow to aid with cooling...much much different than under glass on a dash. That's how ppl cook without electricity or fire.
I'm 99% into useful printing and about 75% of that ATM for me is living outside....so far PETG is so good at most things once dialed in, and pieces have that heft feel...that QUALITY feel lmao
Asa is to PETG like PETG is to PLA except PLA still wins the toughness test time and time again.
the temperatures mentioned are not marketing schemes, you need to anneal them to pass the glass transition temp so the molecules in the polymer change their structure and the part remains much stronger, the challenge is annealing them without structural deformation.
You saved me a lot of experimentation. Thank you!
I’m not even halfway through the video yet and this is the best video I’ve ever seen
Great test. Awesome videos from you to share with us all. Very helpful.👍🌞
Awesome tests and great video, well done!
Awesome experiment! Thank you for sharing!
This is the video I have been looking for ! Great job and thank you for the valuable info !
Approaching my usecase, thank you!
Thank you for doing this. I need to print a couple items for my Jeep. I was going to use ABS just on a guess. You confirmed it. Again thank you
You should consider ASA too if the part will be outside, it is more UV resistant.
Excellent work. Thank you.
Thank you for doing this test and providing this valuable data!
Thank you so much for the testing. This will save me a lot of time on my projects
I should have watched this video before printing, i just did a 35h print for my car with PLA, we'll see how it holds
Nagyon látványos teszt! Köszönet érte!
thanks so much, i almost went for pla and petg for my 3d print for my car, will definetly be going with asa or nylon
Excellent video, thank you so much for making it.
Thank you so much for the work you did. Very good test!
Good test Igor, I did not know about ASA. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing, helped make a few decisions based on my tools and projects coming up.
Excellent and very informative video. Thank you!
Again, outstanding job. Thanks so much.
Thanks for this, I’m about to start printing car parts, will look into abs, asa, and nylon
Thank you for doing this trial. ❤
Very great job and lots of useful information you saved me a lot of time
Köszi a videót, nagyon tanulságos volt!
Great test, I can confirm in Florida in a car PETG will deform on hot days.
Thanks for this info, I noticed that PETG heat deflaction temp variates from brand-to-brand. But in Florida probably all would deform in car.
Good test. I kept PLA print once in my car, it was bent. So was wondering how ABS would perform. Found correct video. Thanks!
Thank you for this test!
Love these tests thnx!
Thank you for this already 3 year old Information. I started 3D printing about 6 months ago.
Well done, thank you!
SUPER TEST!! Grazie.
Great video, well done! 👍👍👍
thank you for your video and test, it is extremely helpful to my choice of material
I love this experiment
Great video thank you for your hard work
Really nice analysis...
very useful data, many thanks
Great real world test. 👍
Thank you for a very informative and great video 😊👍
Great test
Thanks for sharing this great realwold test :-)
Perfect test 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻thank you
Glad that I cam across this video, and ABS is what I planned to use but nylon may be the way I go even though it is moisture sensitive. Ez az információ nagyon hasznos. 3D-s kinyomtatni fogok néhány autóalkatrészt. Szerencsés vagyok hogy napközbenleveszem az autóm tetejét!
Amazing experiment. big like
very interesting test, helped me a lot, thanks ^^
I was planning to do this to test but looks like now I don’t have to thanks I got the info I needed
Thank you sir! very informative!
Carbon fiber nylon has become my primary material for printing now. The CF seems to stabilise the Nylon making it easier to print, warping only an issue on larger parts.
another nice video. thanks
Thanks for all your effort in this test. 🍺
Great stuff
Great test... thanks
Thank you so much ffg or making this
Thank you for the data!
Perfectly done test with real life parameters, i print a lot of car parts, interior and exterior, i actually drove a test piece on the exterior for half a year, autumn to spring, made from PLA, no fading no deformation, as soon as the summer came it bent out of shape, i also had exhaust pipe covers made of PLA, the color faded quickly but the material held up just fine for over a year
" i also had exhaust pipe covers made of PLA, the color faded quickly but the material held up just fine for over a year" X DOUBT.
@@gearcheck101 still have them here and you can look me up on insta, have the pictures on there too, in case your doubt is sooo big ;) and i suppose the PLA just was tempered from heatcycling
@@Tarex_ nothing about a picture on your instagram proves that PLA survives direct contact with your exhaust tip.
@@gearcheck101 well, nobody is forcing you to believe it, test it yourself, but if you do look the exhaust already had exhaust tips and the PLA covered those, if it helps make sense of it, otherwise, fact is it happened :)
HT-PLA requires to be heat treated, usually putting it into oven for it to be able to recrestalize. Then it should have much better heat resistence. Tom Sandalerer did a great video where he used 3d printed HT-PLA coffee cup and even coffee espresso kettle.
Yes, I know about annealing 3D printed objects, my problem with annealing that object deforms, and if I need some accuracy, that's not the solution. On site I couldn't find this info that HT PLA has to be heat threated, only then it will give those properties.
@@MyTechFun Should be possible to make a form to hold the HTPLA in shape while annealing, especially for those test strips you used. Not really so good for more intricate parts though.
Thank you, I am in Florida and we see temperatures like that very typically. I will try ASA, now that you had great results with it.
You video is awesome, thanks for sharing. have a great day.
thanks for the video my man, was wandering the same
Very good video. Thanks
Wow great video! this is exactly what i was looking for! When you're still trying to use petg for in-car use, maybe different brands will yield different results
I agree. I will test few PETG brands from this aspect soon.
Good test, thank you
I like your practical test. It shouldn't be controversial, but it is. PLA should only be used for items made for "Conditioned" spaces. Other materials should be used for mechanical parts which might reside outside of air conditioning. A hot shed, garage, automobile or direct sunlight will soon have your parts in poor condition. PLA is great to learn printing. But it should be avoided for any type of practical or mechanical part used outside of air conditioning.
Good video!
Thank you for that informative test... I’ll go get the PLA phone car mount out of my car and print in Petg (uk is always cold) an see if I can get my printer working with ABS!
Great film
nice testing TY
Great video! Do a follow up! Normally I'd just jump to ABS because that's what's used everywhere in automotive applications already.
nice work!( applause)
Nice testing thanks 👍 Here in Australia were I am we get some days that are over 42 degrees celcius and it goes over 46 in some places, I try really hard not to leave my car in the sun but good to know that PETG might not hold up well enough in some applications 😓
My PETG phone holder holds up well in the UAE.
Thank you very much.. very good jop.
Nice video man. It will be great to make a video with pla and petg with the same test using the annealed method.
Köszönöm szépen 🌞
Very useful thank you
True, in Siberia the problem isn't melting in the sun but become too brittle to be used from freezing.😅