Master Class on BACKSTABS | Elden Ring PvP Guide
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro
01:30 The Grab
03:30 Frame Data
04:20 Techniques
08:50 Common Mistakes
10:40 Briefly Malding
12:15 Showcase - Hry
This video really exemplifies how usually stabbing people in the back with an olive garden breadstick makes them not feel good anymore. I just wish bs whiffs (breadstick whiffs) could be free aimed like in Olive Garden 3, because hot diggity damn it's so sad seeing your character eat an entire plate of lasagna after trying to watch their calories and only take a few breadsticks.
Backstabbing a sythe r1 is so satisfying.
Scythes have the best backstab animation too ❤
Backstabbing a scythe R1 with your own scythe 🤫🧏♂️
They're so easy to punish, yet so fun to play. I love sythe so much and they did it so wrong my poor thing... No real Hyper Armor, not that fast, not that much range, not much damage, odd angle attacks. If at least had the hyper armor of Greatsword u.u'
Yay fishing class is in session 🎣🎣
Man, I'm so bad at backstabs, but I'm really good at going into the middle of obvious gankers, spamming endure, and then trying to melt everyone. Thank you for this.
I fought him when he was making these clips. I was a 2H halberd with bfb and the combat ended on a stalemate where he killed me first but I Hail Mary’d with a phantom slash and got him when I was dead.
If you read this, do you have any tips for someone trying to improve?
Oh yea i remember that lmao, the phantom stuck around to kill me after you died, that was so funny 😂 ggs
As far as tips, idk what you feel like you really need to work on, but i think the most important things are just to be working on your spacing, roll discipline, and understanding your priority. I have a full vid on spacing that you might find has some useful info
I love that you use every chance to do a fancy move with the backstep lol
I was scared there for a moment..Thought you stopped doing the intro bit! I love that bit man!
Dude this was great! I love catching your content because I always learn something new, even on basic/advanced fundamentals like this one. As someone who's learned everything through watching videos and otherwise just pure practice, it's really interesting to see the insight I can get from someone like you who's trained with some of the best players around. Keep up the good work my guy! Can't wait to see what's next from you!
ur insane at those bs grabs out of panic rolls makes it look easy
Love your vids man, another perfect video as always!
genuinely disappointed that the backstab you got on me last week wasnt in here 😭 great content though, thanks for the useful frame data!
holy shit it's you
Thanks, it's content like this that gives me the motivation try and get back into ER PvP
Dang!!!! You are so good. Loved the showcase towards the end. Im gonna practice backstabs tonight 😊
Hell yea dude
Cool video, I've recently started to get more backstabs. It's fun and satisfying.
Again a very nice guide, and a very nice intro indeed!
I just started watching yesterday and I've enjoyed your content. You're filling the void left by iamamish from DS3. Thanks!
Thanks bro , i learning a lot in this video 🎉
I feel like you have gotten a lot better after making some of these guides, over time
Yo, keep this shit up. This channel is a breath of fresh air, (no disrespect to other creatures). Glad you're a part of the scene
Nice and juicy video! 🤟
Thank you for the new pickup line in the intro Rust LOL
I gotchu bro
im sending this video to a friend that is learning parrying and backstabs!
wow. amazing gameplay bro. the only backstabs i am currently able to land is with quickstep(please dont ghiza's hunter me) or against certain ashes of war. i'll try the roll catches like you do.
Fancy fishing over here 🎉 grateful data and stylish pivot and raviolis. Whos gonna guess we will really have backstabs along all this way... such a long road so far
Thanks rust cool video
Very informative video...
I have a question.... Which one is better to counter mages Beast's roar vs Storm blade?? Excluding range, is any one them's initial casting is faster than the other to better catch mage casts??
Isnt beast roar/storm blade spam just a physical mage? Beast roar is less telegraphed and bounces off walls. Storm blade has better spam
Probably...But spam is what I need😂😂..I am playing co-op mod with my friends with friendly damage always on and everyone of us is spamming anything spammable to kill each other... We have killed each other more than the enemies we have killed in the game and anything goes moonveil+stars of ruin+swift shard, BHS+Greatsword, double spear, mage with BHS etc etc...I am searching for an long range ash that is really good against my spammer mage friends...@@Rust_BKT
Thank you for showing people how easy it actually is to fish ugs.... but Great video love ur content lol
Good to know there are other fishermen out there. The Casual was "this big" 😂 caught me a vykes war spear today fellas.
What are input on the controller to perform a reverse quickstep? I mean when u quickly turn 180° and press O (ps4) to do a backstep, i miss how i can turn 180° so fast
Really nice video! Maybe you wanna cover perfect blocks one day in order to get a backstab?
No, i really dont. I cut part of the malding segment out where i talked about endure backstabs and perfect blocks, but basically, i feel the same about those as i do quickstep. With perfect block, you abuse an IPE to tank a hit and tends to cause some desync as a result. Its like endure, except you cant predict or punish it
@@Rust_BKTUnfortunate but I see your point
Ive rexently been learning and getting good at it by forcing it for a few matches and then setting it up while clashing
Hello, how do you do a reverse BS right after a roll, I don't understand how it works, I watched it in slow motion.
You do a roll and then immediately do an R. Backstap.
Thanks for your good videos
So wait when you're holding block while running to avoid getting caught in the slow pivot animation you also said you lose frame advantage if you stop sprinting while holding block?
What exactly am I supposed to do to properly exit the sprinting while blocking?
Like do I just let go of sprint first and then wait a moment to let go of block?
thank you for this rust bucket
what a good Content
Wtf that intro confused the .... out of me. Very creative tho great job! 👏
soo is there already a vid on that glitch? i persume u mean that funny annimation when u fail to get the grab?
Hell yeah!
Is the size of a grab box dependent on characters model or backstabbers weapon?
nope, its same size regardless
Not sure I understand the difference/distinction between a strafe BS and a pivot BS, would you be able to elaborate on that a bit more? thanks
Pivot is the action of turning on the spot, where a strafe is just the act of maneuvering and a hitbox. They are distinct in that a pivot doesnt require a strafe and a strafe doesnt reauire a pivot
12:02 chase the bro has entered the chat
As a gugs loving player I 100% agree on the qs bs bs 💪
What's the best weapon to practice backstab fishing? Dagger?
Sorta. Medium weapons technically have a shorter recovery on the wiff animation, but misericorde always does more damage
@@Rust_BKT cool. I'm just learning pvp in general im this game, but loved backstab dueling in DS1. Any talismans you recommend?
@@Rust_BKT I've heard that the Rapier can actually do more damage than the misericorde. Does that count as a medium weapon? Because it might be best for fishinh.
no, misericorde always does more. against large type pve enemies, its different, in which case executioner axe does the most damage, but not in pvp@@SoI_Badguy
"Artificial anti cheat latency"
what do you mean by this, can you elaborate? has it really been proven that EAC adds artifical latency to ER? I've found nothing about it online
Yep, its proven. I think this is a video of Steel’s that covers itczcams.com/video/U5oBuIDrjOI/video.htmlsi=PEUvux1Tl_45aPiN
Rust single-handily prepping me for DLC
Why your weapon was bouncing everytime you fail a backstab?
Video soon™
@@Rust_BKT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Thanks for the guide my nephew won’t stand a chance🙏🏾
Destroy him, dont hold back
7:29
i mena, tht's not "completely unnecessary" if you're using quite a few of the top meta setups as they generally use powerstanced or ofhand weapons...
unneccesarry in the sense that the ravioli is just for flash, you dont need it in order to do the backstab
@@Rust_BKT the way you described it implied that it's either ravioli step or pivot cancel with guard up to be able to do it though no? so i'm not sure how that is just for flash given the right context, which is not even such a rare context.
i never noticed before how the weapon kinda does the rebound or "pinging off a wall" animation right before the actual backstab animation. weird.
It normally doesnt :)
@@Rust_BKT Does this work on Colossal weapons? I've been using Colossals for crits since there is a good synergy with the Crimson Assassin talisman, but whiffing a backstab with any 2-hit backstab weapon is basically a death penalty since the recovery time is so much more prolonged than a 1-hit backstab weapon... Anyways, looking forward to that tech vid!
🤐@@reflexassassin
truly a master class of Try fingers, but hole
I have absorbed this knowledge and watch me still suck at it
Gone the days where you could pull someone into a backstab with a chaos rapier
You are so good that makes the fights look boring. xD
Idk, i feel like i have the most fun when im just backstab fishing. I can see how it can be tiresome for an opponent tho
The most tistic TKO
For me pivots are easier to land than strafe i guess its muscle memory
Reverse quickstep backstabs look cool as hell sorry. Great vid tho!
We need project goof back
Can I be your apprentice? Those were some tight fights
elden ring backstab arc when ?
Gotta respect the block and move on especially in arena it’s just more important to prioritize good latency and non shitter set ups
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in rust we trust ❤
Yo, I've said it on countless soulsborne ring channels and I'll say it again. Someone over at From Software, presumesably Miyazaki, must have been into Aikido because critical attack, both parry/ripostes and back-stabs are nearly all you do in Aikido.
Aikdo does most of the practice unarmed but the optimal place to me in Aikido is either just behind your opponent or just inside their range, often from first opening their posture up with a parry.
In Aikido your main followup attack is going to be either a throw, a bin or a joint-lock. However Aikido comes from aikijujutsu which was a martial art designed for samurai to be able to fight back with out having to permanently hurt a person. This was usually done by a sucker punch to the vitals or the back of the head or a pin. The sucker punch or pin was setup with positioning just like what you demonstrate here.
3rd love your content
YEEEEEEEES
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Ah rust you always show up in my time of need when im trying to learn new techniques.
Also that comment on hyperarmor warfare is real. I hate fighting people who beat me not based off of skill, but simply because its damn near impossible for me to trade with them and thats all they do.
Continuing. YOU CANT GET STUCK IN A PIVOT WHILE BLOCKING??????? You goddamn sonuvabitch i love you for telling me this.
12:03 bro thinks quickstepping justifies chainsawing 💀
100%
Wanna see me double down? ⛓️🪚
Wanna see me do it again? ⛓️🪚
@@Rust_BKT you can do it all you want I just find it toxic as it has no counterplay it's the kind of thing that you'd think is a cheat if you didn't know about it. Honestly idk why all the tryhard content creators are so toxic, I respect chase the most because he doesn't encourage BMing or any kind of toxic behaviour. The fact that you made 3 replies gives me the feeling that you're more so coping than actually believing in the validity of what you're saying too
@@Rust_BKT just replying again so you can see the edits to the previous comment
14:00 beautiful hyper armor spammer punish
hyper armor "spammer" 💀
@@TK-7193 perhaps the correct word was hyper armor "abuser"
@@VonSchnitz i dunno fam, kinda looks like a free parry to me. not spam.
@@TK-7193there’s no way u haven’t heard of hyper armor spammer, it’s a crutch that ppl fall back on because that’s what hyperarmor has done to ppl in elden ring, doesn’t mean they’re hard to deal with but it’s still a thing I don’t understand the use of quotations in your case
@@Gyno-Mackima of course i know him, hes me.
i use a dragon greatshield and pike, with offhand knight greatsword/grossmesser and erdtree seal. while usually wearing either banished knight or tree sentinal sets. call me the poise beast.
me if i just dodged instead of trying to strafe everything
why waste your time with "relationships" when you could just press r1 behind somebody and get instant dopamine! :))
also I see youre using the golden epitaph glitch, very fun lol
Shhhh, dont spoil it
hope you're joking about the chainsaw glitching
Im not
Reverse Bloodhound Backstab...
i really wish they revert that backstab angle buff it allows such weird backstabs
Its not the grab angle that causes most of the weird ones, i did a vid on the 1.10 update for backstabs if you wanna take a look
Hope the dlc has something that makes you immune to backstabs like a talisman or something would make heavy weapon builds way more viable beyoud pokes maybe balance it by only working if you're using a colossal weapon.
there is a talisman that reduces critical damage taken (backstabs/ripostes) but its kind of ass. mabye a greatshield like the razorback in tf2 or board on those great saw enemies at the undead settlement in ds3.
@@TK-7193I edited my comment upon realizing my mistake it should only work if you're using a heavy weapon otherwise it would make backstabs worthless hopefully after fromsoft balance patches the crouch poke. I really want colossals to be more then oversized rapiers.
I would be devastated if they added something like that
@@Rust_BKT Prehaps but think of the benefits especially if it only works with colossal weapons.
@@WokeandProud i use colossals alot, so i feel the pain, trust. But removing the risk of getting grabbed just inhibits the skill expression of the other player and does nothing further to enhance your own. Whereas instead, working on spacing and learning how to avoid getting grabbed are skills that youre forced to develop with colossals. I see no problem with raising the skill floor on colossals by having them easy to bs
You'd block someone because they used quickstep?
absolutely, its a playstyle i dont enjoy playing against. we have the ability to tailor our game experience, so i opt to do so
Is blocking really intended for that though? @@Rust_BKT
who cares? play your game how you want, and others will play theirs.@@badnewsburt9675
@@Rust_BKT because it's not a very large community from what I can see. If everybody did the same nobody would be matched up to fight.
@@Rust_BKT "play the game how you want... But don't use these weapons, or these skills, be at this level, etc"
You as "good" as Steelovsky?
Hell no
@@Rust_BKT It's ok, Steelovsky knows you're better than him, where are his bo15 requests ? He scared
naw he beat my ass in a tourney, heres proof czcams.com/video/EAXdo09fiz8/video.htmlsi=1AwbP_4eVC0mdyTB@@glatykoffi6672
Most of your opponent looks PC players, I think only 2 was joystick user. still great info.
I dont really know what youre referring to here
@@Rust_BKTjust shush and let him cook
@@Gyno-Mackima bish, you just tell me to shush? Man get outa my kitchen 😂
@@Gyno-MackimaL ratio:)
@@voidenjoyer573 shush
I try to make grab attempts chains when it happens to the other guy, too funny