So Similar Yet Different Price?! - Pagani 43mm vs 40mm Submariner Homage
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- čas přidán 29. 07. 2024
- Pagani Design PD 1639 vs PD 1661 - both are Rolex Submariner homages one is 43mm and another one is 40mm in diameter. So what are the similarities and more importantly the differences between these on the first glance very similar watches!? Let's find out. Please note this is not a full review of these watches for the full reviews please check the links below.
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PAGANI DESIGN PD-1661 - ALL BLACK ROLEX SUBMARINER HOMAGE (40mm)
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PAGANI DESIGN PD-1639 - ROLEX SUBMARINER HOMAGE (43mm)
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In regards to the weight: adjusted to about 7 inch wrist the 43mm watch is slightly heavier at 149g compared to 144g of the 40mm one, but not by much.
Anti reflection coating on old version, the new ones could definitely do with it. Good fair review.
FYI there are 3 micro adjustments inside the clasp where the extension is. You push the spring pin and adjust the extension up or down. I've found this gives me the perfect fit. Notice there are small circular divots above the extension on the inside of the clasp!
Nice review !! I own the 43mm but i would consider buying the 40mm if pagani had a fully brushed bracelet and the dial had no explorer written on it and bezel lined up.
Good comparison review mate. It's good to Pagani have released a 40mm version. I'm sure the price will come down more to the level of the 43mm soon as well. I'm not really a fan of the 'Explorer' text added to the dial. I thought it was already quite a busy before hand .
@Honest Watch Reviews, looks like 'Explorer' is not very popular 🙂 Let's see if Pagani takes note. I hope you are right about the price. With the same materials used, apart from some more lume there is no other tangible reason for a higher price. I wander when a 41mm homage is coming out though 😊.
Can I change the band with the polish finish to a brushed one on the 40mm? Just ordered one and want to change it not feeling the polish on the middle
Great reviews! Please do one of PD 2703
I own the Green 1639 and it's phenomenal
and I would purchase both of those Black Dail models because of the Pagani Design quality & prices for what you receive. 😊
Weight and balance makes the 40mm the better option for me. I have largish 7 3/4" wrists. The larger watch looks fine on me but the head of the watch is so weighty that I'm always aware of it and the way the head is not balanced by the weight of the clasp. Though only 10g lighter the 40mm version is simply better balanced. Remedying the size issue by fitting a strap simply makes the overall package a similar price to the 40mm version and doesn't address the balance issue. So overall, I feel that the 40mm version is the one to go for.
@David Hollad, thanks for sharing. 40mm seams like a universal classic size, although Rolex now introduced 41mm Sub - so go figure 🙄😊 Adjusted to my 7 inch wrist the 43mm watch is only slightly heavier at 149g compare to 144g of the 40mm one, but not by much. I agree that buying a strap is an extra expense, and personally I would recommend to go for the bracelet 43mm version, because I don't particularly like neither of the strap options offered 🙂, and because I am more of a bracelet guy. Thanks for watching! 🙂👍
What is the size of inner dial for 43mm watch? I can not find this information, would appreciate If someone tells
I already had the 43mm long before the 40mm came out. Plus my 43mm is the Hulk which is not yet available in the 40mm. Mine has the NH35. The indices on my 43mm are perfectly aligned. The 43mm sits ok on my 7.5 inch wrist. If I were looking now I might wait for the 40mm Hulk ... if it is ever produced ... but I do not regret at all my purchase of the 43mm.
@Karl Senula, thanks for sharing! I think for whatever reason the QC on 43mm is better. After doing this video, I was surprised how close these two watches are, and in terms of weight, adjusted to my 7 inch wrist the 43mm watch is only slightly heavier at 149g compare to 144g of the 40mm one, but not by much. Thanks for watching! 🙂👍
Other than their Datona homage, Pagani has a history of getting it almost right. I'm sticking with Parnis.
@Sam, let's see which one gets the 41mm version right 😊
Cheers for the vid
I have a 43mm model
Love it
Well done for this comparison. The black leather strap is perfect for this watch. Where did you buy it?
Why spend a couple of years on a waiting list then spend an absolute fortune on your new Rolex when you can buy a watch that looks very much like one for a fraction of the price.
Exactly if we didn’t have Rolex at all and landed on a planet with humans living there if they showed us both watches do you think we would ever guess the price difference??? I’d say no chance of that we would probably guess them within a couple of hundred dollars of each other lol 😂
Just to impress people . That’s why luxury brands exist
most people don't know what Rolex look like anyways unless if you tell them.
Hello,
Is it good when I buy the 40mm Watch for a 6,29 inch wrist? Or is the Watch too big for my wrist?
Got the 40. Easy to make the bezel align because the bezel is so loose. Good or bad, depending on how you see it
I've got one of the very early Miyota powered 43mm watches which even has a mineral crystal. There's nothing wrong with the miyota movement apart from a bit of rotor spin due to being uni directional winding, it's very reliable and I've been able to regulate it down to about 1 second gained per day. Pagani give an awful lot for the money...
Great comparison. Good video.
really interestingi video my friend! I love the 40mm version, but I hate the polished center links. I hope they will release the same watch with a fully brushed bracelet.
@Quality Times, I hope so too. Quite possible though, that they are working on a 41mm version, in that case, the 43mm 21mm brushed bracelet would fit it nicely! 🙂👍
Thx for the video. Nice watch unfortunately 20mm bracelet width looks too narrow on my 7.5 inch wrist.
Is the dials the same size for these watches?
I have the 43mm version. I do think it's a bit too big for my 7 inch wrist. But it's really great value. I'd love to get the 40mm version but I can't get over the 'Explorer' wording on the dial.
@Michael Tina, thanks for sharing! I don't think the 'Explorer' is going way though 🙂 Maybe on the 41mm version, now that Rolex introduced a new 41mm Submariner 😊.
Do you think the price of the 40mm will come down as they make and sell more units ? I never noticed until now how small the hour hand looks on the 43mm . Thanks for another really informative video .
@TheOne ThatGotAway, Pagani Design do tend to lower their prices as they sell more units, they did that with other popular models. There is a bit more lume on the 40mm and lume is expensive, so it might still be priced a bit higher than the 43mm one, even after the novelty of new 40mm models wears off. Good luck and thanks for watching! 🙂👍
And now its 90 $
I have one of each size on the way. 43mm Hulk and 40mm Coke GMT. Couldn't figure out which would fit better.
Iv got the 40mm 1661 Kermit and i love it
Go with the 40mm if you want a Sub homage and 43mm if you want the Deep Sea homage.
@Hunter Bautista, thanks for sharing. With new Sub sized at 41mm things just got more interesting! 🙂
Great review. I got a gold hulk and it's beautiful. Can recommend these and I bought the GMT and I think it's the best watch I have ever got the accuracy is fantastic.
@Alex Harris, Thanks for sharing! 🙂👍
Was the Rehaut difference mentioned?
С каким механизмом лучше брать пагани? Сейко или миота? Сними небольшое видео о разнице и что предпочтительнее
I just got my pd-1661 a week ago. I use the link u share of aliexpress. Only i concenr when it will lauching a green hulk style or the no date version. Anyway Thanks for the video.
@Chris Tung, Thank you for your support! 🙂👍 Taking into account how quick Pagani Design came out with the Tag Heuer Autavia homage - I think it took them couple of months or even less, the 41mm no date and cermit homages are not far way 🙂 we will probably be able to get them before Rolex delivers their models to the ADs 😊 Thanks for watching and again thank you for your support! 👍
Fyi my Pagani Design 43mm Hulk (which I got before the 40mm was announced or came out) lines up perfectly, has the sunburst dial, NH35 movement and the cyclops magnifies 2x and looks more like the 40mm in this video. It is a big boy but sits well on my 7.5 inch wrist. Lum is poor but for the price I am not complaining with everything else being excellent.
I bought the Pagani 1661 (40mm) with the James Cameron deep sea dial. Definitely worth the money.
Do you know if they have a 43mm version of their Gmt master?
@ARGƎNTVM Prod., I don't believe they make it in 43mm size.
Is the 41mm watch released?
Do you think the bracelet will fit a 16cm wrist? Thx
@Riccardo E., we managed to adjust the 40mm watch bracelet to 6 1/3 inches (about 16 cm), it wasn't tight, but was ok. Hope this helps and good luck! 🙂👍
非常棒的介紹~
The 40mm seems to have anti reflective coating ??
Hey how has it held up? Looking to pick one up on the next sale
@Raj Gobarani, both are still running and are quite accurate. There is a more recent video where I compare the 40mm Pagani Design to San Martin with Timegrapher shots and some more detailed comparison between the two, it might give you more insight: czcams.com/video/B-56RM8zvqY/video.html Hope this helps and Good luck! 🙂👍
哪個尺寸式新款式?
Seriously debating this with a 6.5" wrist. I hope the 43 isn't too big but it seems like it will be. It's easier and faster to get the 43 but waiting may be worth it.
@WolvieGaming, With PD-1639 personally I would not go for the 43mm with the wrist under 6 and 3/4 inches, because of the protruding end links. Unless, of course, you going to put it on a strap. Hope this helps and good luck! 🙂👍
@@ShinyThings it does help, you're also the only person I've seen on CZcams who states the measurement between end links... Definitely a no for me. Thanks for the video.
Does the case of the 40mm scratch easily?
@01042453, not really, I wore it in rotation for few weeks and the polished flanks of the case are holding up pretty well, unlike the polished parts of the bracelet though. The PD-1644 ('Daytona') has a similar SS case and bracelet with a similar finish and I made a video after six months of daily use of that watch: czcams.com/video/r0PjrfqrfS4/video.html Hope this helps!
All those Chinese Factories do not understand, what we all want, although it is VERY clear and easy.
All Brands offer only 70 - 85 % of the Following Specs.
They argue with the Price and Budget, but I would love to pay 100,- Dollar for this Combination:
+ SS-Case max. 12,6 mm high
+ Smooth Screw-Down-Crown
+ Ceramic well-Aligned Bezel
+ Sapphire Chrystal with AR-Coating inside.
+ 2,5 Cyclops from Sapphire, too
+ Seiko NH35a
+ As an Upgrade the Option for a Miyota 9015 up to 160 ? US-Dollar
+ Very good Lume.
+ Minimalistic, Stylish Dial without Fantasy-Nonsens-Writing
+ Bracelet: Brushed Links only + Glide-Lock (or at least Diving Extension) + Massive End-Links.
Even the Hyped San Martin V3 Water Ghost does NOT offer all of those Specs. :-(
Why pay 3 x the Price for it then...?
I refuse to buy a San Martin, exchange the Movement to a 9015 and install an Extra-Glide-Lock. - No, Sir.
Sorry for getting out-of-subject:
Okay, IF the Glide-Lock is still under Rolex-Patent, we could not expect that. - Although... Bliger has it... ;-)
And: IF San Martin would sell the Water Ghost V3 with the 9015-Movement, I could understand the Three-Times-Higher-Price, and that Movement would really be a Stand-Alone-Feature, together with the outstanding Quality of S.M.
For my 180 mm wrist the 40 mm is a little bit better looks. But it depends on the overeall watch construction, colour and general purposes.
40-45 cm is OK, I guess, for my small 18 -18,5 cm wrist.
Good comparison ! What about the cyclop alignment and magnifying factor ? Thanks man, already have the 43 , if you saythe cyclop is fine I'll grab the 40 as well. Cheers
Hi @Maxime Le Roy, my 40mm Sub (PD 1661) aligned well, maybe a fraction of the mm to the left if you look at it dead straight, but in general ok. My Pagani GMT however, I am not sure about, I think I got a QC issue there. Long story short 🙂 it is a bit of a lottery, on a positive side the later watches seam to have less QC issues judging by viewers feedback. Hope this helps. Good luck and thanks for watching! 🙂👍
Shiny things thanks for the quick reply I just ordered two.. just in case 😅
My 43mm bezzel is perfectly aligned 👍
@The Opposition, it does look like more QC goes into the 43mm watch.Thanks for sharing! 🙂👍
I have a 7.25" wrist, and 40mm is about as large as I dare to go. I can go as small as 34mm for Oyster Perpetual homages. It would be nice to see this watch in 38mm.
They really need to fix the date magnification.
All 90 click and 60 click Uni-directional Bezels have play in them. 120 click bezels are what is in most all good dive watches.
I wish they made the Pepsi and the root beer in the 43 mm. I ended up buying them in 40 mm.
how long it's delivered to you from china?
@gabriel danar, I am based in the UK, and the delivery normally takes about 2 weeks. However! 🙂 sometimes it can take 2 months, but lately, it has been mostly quick! Of course, the delivery time could be different for different countries. Hope this helps and Good Luck! 🙂👍
@@ShinyThings thanks... it's help a lot..
it's been 2 weeks since they send it to Indonesia, and it's still dispatch from china to Indonesia.
I'm using the free shipping from AliExpress, Cainiao btw.
EU ESTOU NO BRASIL E TENHO OS 2, POREM , O MEU DE 43 MM USA MAQUINA NH35, E TEM 90 CLICKS O BEZEL QUE FICA DESALINHADO , JA O DE 40MM NAO TEM ESCRITO A PALAVRA EXPLORER E O BEZEL É DE 120 CLICKS BEM ALINHADO, POREM O MOTRADOR É MAIS BRILHOSO O QUE REFLETE BASTANTE... TBM USA NH 35 ... o unico defeito deles é nao ser padronizado os modelos... ps nos meus as coroas sao identicas e igual a do de 43mm que mostrou, porem no seu de 43 mm parece o vidro ter antireflexo (azul) o meu nao tem esse tratamento antireflexo em nenhum dos dois...
Thank you for sharing! 🙂👍
I would need the 43mm. I think my wrist is 7 1/2 to 8 inches.
Pagani should just make all their oyster bracelets brushed silver
40 mm version must be glossy piano black like real rolex
Циклоп на 43мм версии никудышний. А вот на 40мм отличный
@Вячеслав Зуб, Well spotted 🙂 However, however Pagani Design fixed it now. You see, the 43mm cyclop doesn't look too good on the video becuase of the Miyota movement used in the old version I have in the video. On the current version of the 43mm Pagani Design uses NH35 movement, so the date looks the same as on a 40mm.
the 40mm looks way better on my wrist in my humble opinion. 43mm is just too big!
Left looks the real thing
For the money good watches, BUT to call it diver... NO!!!! For me at least 200m is starting point for diver, and is this case it's a deal breaker!!!!
With so little difference between the 2 watches it makes no sense to buy the more expensive 40mm version. Also as the new Rolex Submariners are now 41mm they are now the wrong size so that is no longer really an advantage over the older models.
Nicholas Sadlier imo the pagani still being 40 is good.
@Nicholas Sadlier, yes, the 40mm was the key size to make it as close to Rolex sub look as possible, and now Rolex moved to goal post 🙂 Thanks for sharing! 🙂👍
It's a homage, and it's a homage to a 40mm watch. Need I say more? I have the Phoibos version, and it's leagues ahead of either
But then again, it's five times the price as well, it's supposed to be better😊
The shiny midlinks on the 40mm version are just an absolute nogo; for me reason enough not to buy it.
Gf🇫🇷🧑🏼🦽. merci pour cette superbe vidéo sous-titrée en français. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🙏🍀🙏
Sa sert a quoi les titres en français pour des videos en anglais ? 🤔🤷♂️
buy a super clone rep of a sub much better than these not cheap though...this illustrates how much you are being ripped off by the elite brands.
43mm cyclops is rubbish
40mm is better
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