Oakie! To me, this is your best video to date. Your awareness of the sound and feel of the ported saws is top notch. The tuning on both of the saws will eventually find their happy place. Then you won't have to keep adjusting, unless the situation calls for it. Great build for Super Dave. Oakie, your skills are improving in the buck for sure. Great video, I'm happy for you.
Appreciate that buddy! I actually wasn't thinking as much and have been very self critical about this particular video because I didn't want my inexperience with Ported Saws to this build look week through bad tuning and operation. I hate I used a new chain cause this wood was dirty! Thanks again!
Appreciated. What did you think about the color at that point? Also, I am keeping in mind the saw is changing a bit as it breaks in. Thank you @@vincentnail2881
Sorry for the late response. I'm going with your thoughts about the color. You just don't want the white color. From what I could see with out having in my hand, it looks good.
Hey Oakie, wicked runner there - SD does a jam up job building saws 👍👍. The thing you'll notice with a ported saw is that you can go a lil more aggressive with your rakers - an extra swipe or 2 and let her buck...
Awesome duo there! nothing quite compares to a nicely ported saw. Those are both home runs! To me, sounds like you got the tune about perfect there at the end👍🏻
Appreciate the input. Dave told me it would be loud and I almost was going to tell him make it louder. This is loud enough for sure. The RPM it is turning and the exhaust note make it hard to hear the 4 stroke in person. I also have never had a saw with these mannerisms before so I al learning. I was so worried about messing up. Hahaha. Thanks buddy for being here for another!
Well, it was supposed to come out tomorrow but I couldn’t stand not posting it either. I appreciate you watching another and commenting. Like I said, I want to get it into some better wood.
Very sweet my friend! Those 2 saws run excellent! Just a good muffler mod on your 5 series saws will be like night and day also you would be surprised! Well done sir as always!
Can’t beat a work ported saw! IMO, it needs to be richer on the high side. Fatten it up until the 4-stroking is obvious. Then adjust from there. I tune my bigger saws for wood like that Oak trunk. What caught my ear was how clean it ran when you were limbing. IMO, if it is that cleaned up in small wood it’ll be too lean when you are in the bigger wood… But, with that anti lean nozzle deal removed it might be fooling me…
Appreciate the feedback from a man with a ported 620p! I think once I get it I some solid wood, I will be putting a bit more fuel to it. Appreciate you weighing in friend. I like this HiJet mod for sure man. Makes it like a totally different saw for sure.
Well I have the 310 and the Echo 620 p, and the ms400 and the echo 7310 p and the cs800 Allgood running chainsaws. I started out with the echo 590 Timberwolf
Very good! Can I ask what saw you tend to pick up most often? Are they all stock? You quite a nice selection there and thank you watching and commenting.
👍👍Super Dave….fine work sir! Runs awesome! Regarding tuning, why not fatten up when hot until it starts breaking up. Sometimes the sound you hear is different than what comes through on the audio. 310….if you are just limbing and want reach, throw an 18 on it. I have a 352 with an 18. The saws are so light, doesn’t feel off balance at all. Great video!!!
Sir! Glad you are hear and weighing in on this. Appreciate the tips on the bars and the tuning! I am going to be spending more time with the 620p I do believe. I cannot believe the RPM it is spinning with such a long stroke.
Ported 620 one of the best all around saws i think the performance and reliability is just really hard to beat. You'll never play guessing games diagnosing it will run or it won't and fixing it will be as simple as as any other small engine diagnostic procedure.
It certainly is a great platform and I believe it is going to be great as a ported saw. I felt comfortable doing it as it is over built and held back from the factory. In other words, I trust the saws robust build. My 562xp will only ever see a muffler mod I believe. Thanks for sharing!
@oakiewoodsman yeah no hate towards the 562 awesome saws with the mk 2 coming really wanna see if they get it perfect cause I think it would be the best out of the box 60cc without the issues it's had. The 550 mk2 seemed like a decent improvement and they got a lot more to update on the 562 . The 620 just seems to take to porting so well and you can get with brand new with paying for port work super cheap and run long bars no problem. I seen WCS gonna be selling dogs for them would be cool to see a filter upgrade on the 620 as well.
well, you are in luck on the WCS dogs. I actually had a saw in my hands owned by Mark and he is tagged in the video. Here is a link to it czcams.com/video/2qHrCP3HGAM/video.html@@zack6892
They do seem to keep creeping in performance for quite some time! Just a base gasket delete and a muffler mod goes a VERY long way on these saws. Check out this saw from when I met up with a subscriber last year. Some great tips for your 620 and he has a pipe on it. Very nice setup with NO port work done czcams.com/video/2qHrCP3HGAM/video.html
Appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment! There are quite of few people like you I am finding here in Oklahoma. I had another gentlemen reach out with some pictures that does it too. I would love to hear more about what you have done feel free to chip in whenever you can! Thank you
Nearly a year ago was when I bought my newest chainsaw and after researching several different models, I ended up deciding on echo as a final choice. At that time, Home Depot only had the 590 Timberwolf in stock so that is the only reason I didn’t buy the 620. I’m extremely happy with the 590. Small things here and there I wish was different but overall I’m definitely not regretting buying it at all. Currently I’m really wanting to check out a new echo 7310 but not quite convinced myself to spend a thousand bucks on a chainsaw just yet. The 60cc 590 does exactly what I need it to do as I’m not felling huge trees nor running any sawmills. lol
I think you made an excellent choice! The 590 is a great saw at an excellent price. It is robust, capable and a great firewood saw. It should last a very long time because Echo builds a stout build very conservatively. I have never run a 7310 and would have been interested in them at a price point of around $800 or so. Right now, they are a bit high. They are an excellently built saw and wake up fairly well after the 10-15tank echo break in. My understanding is that this ported 620 probably would out cut the 7310 stock and it is lighter and smaller. The 7310 has a far superior air cleaner and it is nice they increased the bar stud Diameter to match Husqvarna. I appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment. Welcome and be safe out there cutting!
Heck yeah man! I'm excited for you. My 620pw is headed to walkers saw shop next month for the whole works. Base gasket delete, porting polishing piping. Some west coast aftermarket goodies. You asked about the tune, it was really hard for me to hear (my bad ears, not your fault) but it sounded like it was 4 stroking in the wood. It shouldn't 4 stroke in the wood that means it's rich. It should 4 stroke at the high end with no load but it should clean right up in the wood even smaller wood. Tinman saws has a great video on this if you haven't watched it. I found it helpful when I was starting to work on saws. They did a good job on that 310 too. Looks like it cuts almost as fast as my 4010 and that's a 42 cc saw
That will be excellent for sure when you can get your 620p done. I had the non limited Hi jet put in the carb too and I am glad I did. I cannot believe how many RPM the saw has now. Thanks for watching another and I have seen the Tinman Tuning as well as Buckin and numerous others. Appreciated!
@oakiewoodsman have you put a tachometer on your saw? My 620 tops out at 12.8k with the stock jets and I find it's really happy there. My 590 wouldn't go over 11.6k so I did the jet swap in that one. A tachometer is a very helpful tool to have.most folks don't know echos are long stroke motors meaning they don't need 13.5k to make peak hp. Their power band is different.
@oakiewoodsman I'd never push an echo that high. Manual says 13 or 13.5k max. I think the Rev limiter is 13.5. Just be careful. You can talk to others as well because I'm just 1 guy but I'd never push an echo like that.
@@AaronTheViking250 that’s a pretty decent 60 cc saw there. We don’t always need a 90 cc saw. If you were making fun of the fact that it was an echo did you realize that the 60 cc Husqvarna and the 60 cc stihl are slower right?
My 2 get anything done saws are echo 590...with 24 inch bar..muff modded...and my jonsered 2252...wich is 52cc pretty.much exactly dame saw as a husky 550xp...it's pro saw ..tons of power and chain speed..between these two saws I can drop.any tree..big to.small!
I have not noticed a major change in idle RPM when I place the saw on its side. Is that what you are referring to? I appreciate you watching and commenting. Also, I may have forgotten about something I said in this video as well since it has been some time since I watched it. Thank you again
@@oakiewoodsman thanks for your answer. That's what i was referring to. Could a bad carburetor cause such problems? Because i cleaned it but with not limited pressed air. And the saw did run absolutely fine bevore.
@SliMStaR360 I am no expert on this but when a saw changes how it runs when flipped, I think that indicates an air leak of some sort. You may wanna check into that make sure all your lines are good and seated, make sure bolts are snug and if you blasted towards the crank seals, make sure you check into that as well. May wanna do the brake cleaner test around the PTO crank seal. Definitely before you run it more, find the issue and resolve it otherwise you will burn the saw up if it has an air leak. @superdaveoutdoors is the one who ported my saw and is an echo mechanic. May visit his page. Smaller channel but he is very knowledgeable. He has a ton of Echo content.
I think I found the problem. I tightened the bolts that hold the carburetor to much and pull out the thread and between the carburetor and the intake manifold was a gap now. So there was my air leak. I put a new thread in and pushed it behind the rubber of the intake manifold.
I cut those trees with 2511t..stock ..and ported makes no difference..its liggter and one handed.run 14 and 16 bars on them daily..you dont need rear handle .saws..until last few feet
@@douglasdonegan9372 you have been ruined! Once you do it, you cannot run stock cause it is a tad boring! Warning to everyone contemplating tinkering with their saws! 🤣
Glad you like it, if you have any issues with it feel free to let me know and I'll help you out with whatever i can.
Dave, you are a great guy to work with! Thank you much and I look forward to running your build more buddy! Enjoy your time man
Great work Super Dave!!
Think you're about 2be busy with saw porting requests Dave! Great job!
@@oakiewoodsman I'm typing this @23:57 in the video and I still think it's a little too lean.
I think you may be correct. Once I can get it in some bigger more solid wood, I am going to fatten it up and get it pulling better.@@johnlincicum6390
Oakie! To me, this is your best video to date. Your awareness of the sound and feel of the ported saws is top notch. The tuning on both of the saws will eventually find their happy place. Then you won't have to keep adjusting, unless the situation calls for it. Great build for Super Dave. Oakie, your skills are improving in the buck for sure. Great video, I'm happy for you.
Appreciate that buddy! I actually wasn't thinking as much and have been very self critical about this particular video because I didn't want my inexperience with Ported Saws to this build look week through bad tuning and operation. I hate I used a new chain cause this wood was dirty! Thanks again!
You did a very good job, and showed the spark plug check. That was a crucial part of the video.
Appreciated. What did you think about the color at that point? Also, I am keeping in mind the saw is changing a bit as it breaks in. Thank you @@vincentnail2881
Sorry for the late response. I'm going with your thoughts about the color. You just don't want the white color. From what I could see with out having in my hand, it looks good.
@@vincentnail2881 thanks for checking it out. Stay tuned, more good stuff coming!
Hey Oakie, wicked runner there - SD does a jam up job building saws 👍👍. The thing you'll notice with a ported saw is that you can go a lil more aggressive with your rakers - an extra swipe or 2 and let her buck...
Appreciated buddy. I am in search of some better wood now and believe I have it lined up. Definitely going to be a learning curve here. Thanks!
Awesome duo there! nothing quite compares to a nicely ported saw. Those are both home runs! To me, sounds like you got the tune about perfect there at the end👍🏻
Appreciate the input. Dave told me it would be loud and I almost was going to tell him make it louder. This is loud enough for sure. The RPM it is turning and the exhaust note make it hard to hear the 4 stroke in person. I also have never had a saw with these mannerisms before so I al learning. I was so worried about messing up. Hahaha. Thanks buddy for being here for another!
I've been wanting to see that saw ported so bad! Sounds awesome. Love it!
Well, it was supposed to come out tomorrow but I couldn’t stand not posting it either. I appreciate you watching another and commenting. Like I said, I want to get it into some better wood.
Very sweet my friend! Those 2 saws run excellent! Just a good muffler mod on your 5 series saws will be like night and day also you would be surprised! Well done sir as always!
Thank you man! I am kinda. Ervin’s to start cutting on my 545 and 562 mufflers but I definitely want to do that. Thanks for watching another!
I spotted a clip of him porting it, I’ve been waiti for this video and didn’t disappoint
Very good! I appreciate you watching and letting us know you are here. Have a good one! Cannot wait to get this saw into better wood. Stay tuned!
Can’t beat a work ported saw!
IMO, it needs to be richer on the high side. Fatten it up until the 4-stroking is obvious. Then adjust from there. I tune my bigger saws for wood like that Oak trunk.
What caught my ear was how clean it ran when you were limbing.
IMO, if it is that cleaned up in small wood it’ll be too lean when you are in the bigger wood…
But, with that anti lean nozzle deal removed it might be fooling me…
Appreciate the feedback from a man with a ported 620p! I think once I get it I some solid wood, I will be putting a bit more fuel to it. Appreciate you weighing in friend. I like this HiJet mod for sure man. Makes it like a totally different saw for sure.
Wow that 620 is strong! Huge difference being ported. The tuning sounds about right.
Appreciated man. Can’t wait to get into some better wood man and have another saw to compare it to side by side.
Yeah isn’t as fun cutting rotten wood been there. No fun splitting it either when it crumbles.
My cs400 Echo is the best starting saw I’ve ever had 👍
I have never run one but I have heard good things about them. Thanks for sharing!
Well I have the 310 and the Echo 620 p, and the ms400 and the echo 7310 p and the cs800 Allgood running chainsaws. I started out with the echo 590 Timberwolf
Very good! Can I ask what saw you tend to pick up most often? Are they all stock? You quite a nice selection there and thank you watching and commenting.
What are you listening for when you talking about 4 stroking gonna get that 620
👍👍Super Dave….fine work sir!
Runs awesome!
Regarding tuning, why not fatten up when hot until it starts breaking up. Sometimes the sound you hear is different than what comes through on the audio.
310….if you are just limbing and want reach, throw an 18 on it. I have a 352 with an 18. The saws are so light, doesn’t feel off balance at all.
Great video!!!
Sir! Glad you are hear and weighing in on this. Appreciate the tips on the bars and the tuning! I am going to be spending more time with the 620p I do believe. I cannot believe the RPM it is spinning with such a long stroke.
That little 310 is impressive .
Good truck saw! 😉
That 310 is impressive, good to know they have enough potential to mess with them.
Ported 620 one of the best all around saws i think the performance and reliability is just really hard to beat. You'll never play guessing games diagnosing it will run or it won't and fixing it will be as simple as as any other small engine diagnostic procedure.
It certainly is a great platform and I believe it is going to be great as a ported saw. I felt comfortable doing it as it is over built and held back from the factory. In other words, I trust the saws robust build. My 562xp will only ever see a muffler mod I believe. Thanks for sharing!
@oakiewoodsman yeah no hate towards the 562 awesome saws with the mk 2 coming really wanna see if they get it perfect cause I think it would be the best out of the box 60cc without the issues it's had. The 550 mk2 seemed like a decent improvement and they got a lot more to update on the 562 . The 620 just seems to take to porting so well and you can get with brand new with paying for port work super cheap and run long bars no problem. I seen WCS gonna be selling dogs for them would be cool to see a filter upgrade on the 620 as well.
well, you are in luck on the WCS dogs. I actually had a saw in my hands owned by Mark and he is tagged in the video. Here is a link to it
czcams.com/video/2qHrCP3HGAM/video.html@@zack6892
@@zack6892red beard saws makes a filter upgrade for the 620/590 platform
I need to get my 4910 on the bench
That will be a good one!
We'll be waiting AAL!
My 620PW is stock, but it runs better every time I pick it up and it handles like a light saber.
They do seem to keep creeping in performance for quite some time! Just a base gasket delete and a muffler mod goes a VERY long way on these saws. Check out this saw from when I met up with a subscriber last year. Some great tips for your 620 and he has a pipe on it. Very nice setup with NO port work done czcams.com/video/2qHrCP3HGAM/video.html
Glad it worked out for you. Awsome saw. Im in N.central Oklahoma and Ive done all of my own. But Im a cheepskate. That 310 really came to life.
Appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment! There are quite of few people like you I am finding here in Oklahoma. I had another gentlemen reach out with some pictures that does it too. I would love to hear more about what you have done feel free to chip in whenever you can! Thank you
Nearly a year ago was when I bought my newest chainsaw and after researching several different models, I ended up deciding on echo as a final choice. At that time, Home Depot only had the 590 Timberwolf in stock so that is the only reason I didn’t buy the 620. I’m extremely happy with the 590. Small things here and there I wish was different but overall I’m definitely not regretting buying it at all. Currently I’m really wanting to check out a new echo 7310 but not quite convinced myself to spend a thousand bucks on a chainsaw just yet. The 60cc 590 does exactly what I need it to do as I’m not felling huge trees nor running any sawmills. lol
I think you made an excellent choice! The 590 is a great saw at an excellent price. It is robust, capable and a great firewood saw. It should last a very long time because Echo builds a stout build very conservatively. I have never run a 7310 and would have been interested in them at a price point of around $800 or so. Right now, they are a bit high. They are an excellently built saw and wake up fairly well after the 10-15tank echo break in. My understanding is that this ported 620 probably would out cut the 7310 stock and it is lighter and smaller. The 7310 has a far superior air cleaner and it is nice they increased the bar stud Diameter to match Husqvarna. I appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment. Welcome and be safe out there cutting!
Tune is great on both of them!!
They are an excellent tool!
I love my echo’s great video
Thank you! What do you run?
Heck yeah man! I'm excited for you. My 620pw is headed to walkers saw shop next month for the whole works. Base gasket delete, porting polishing piping. Some west coast aftermarket goodies. You asked about the tune, it was really hard for me to hear (my bad ears, not your fault) but it sounded like it was 4 stroking in the wood. It shouldn't 4 stroke in the wood that means it's rich. It should 4 stroke at the high end with no load but it should clean right up in the wood even smaller wood. Tinman saws has a great video on this if you haven't watched it. I found it helpful when I was starting to work on saws. They did a good job on that 310 too. Looks like it cuts almost as fast as my 4010 and that's a 42 cc saw
That will be excellent for sure when you can get your 620p done. I had the non limited Hi jet put in the carb too and I am glad I did. I cannot believe how many RPM the saw has now. Thanks for watching another and I have seen the Tinman Tuning as well as Buckin and numerous others. Appreciated!
@oakiewoodsman have you put a tachometer on your saw? My 620 tops out at 12.8k with the stock jets and I find it's really happy there. My 590 wouldn't go over 11.6k so I did the jet swap in that one. A tachometer is a very helpful tool to have.most folks don't know echos are long stroke motors meaning they don't need 13.5k to make peak hp. Their power band is different.
@canuck7268 that builder showed it
Hit 13.8k. I was astonished at the RPM with the stroke
@oakiewoodsman I'd never push an echo that high. Manual says 13 or 13.5k max. I think the Rev limiter is 13.5. Just be careful. You can talk to others as well because I'm just 1 guy but I'd never push an echo like that.
@@canuck7268 it was still 4 stroking but I am giving it more fuel. Appreciated
That’s what I’ve always wondered- will a ported saw work all day and last and not overheat etc. They sure do sound great
If the saw is built for work rather than race, they are wonderful to use! Thanks for being here!
yeah buddy that's pro grade right there lmao and feel that power
Thanks for watching
@@oakiewoodsman no worries
@@AaronTheViking250 that’s a pretty decent 60 cc saw there. We don’t always need a 90 cc saw. If you were making fun of the fact that it was an echo did you realize that the 60 cc Husqvarna and the 60 cc stihl are slower right?
@oakiewoodsman no it wasn't making fun it was pure sarcasm, is all i own two echos an love them
@AaronTheViking250 OK appreciate it. Have a good one.
My 2 get anything done saws are echo 590...with 24 inch bar..muff modded...and my jonsered 2252...wich is 52cc pretty.much exactly dame saw as a husky 550xp...it's pro saw ..tons of power and chain speed..between these two saws I can drop.any tree..big to.small!
That is a great combo for sure! Thanks for sharing!
Have you also the problem, when you rotate it then the rpm falls? It could be the 'fuel pooling effect'.
I have not noticed a major change in idle RPM when I place the saw on its side. Is that what you are referring to? I appreciate you watching and commenting. Also, I may have forgotten about something I said in this video as well since it has been some time since I watched it. Thank you again
@@oakiewoodsman thanks for your answer. That's what i was referring to. Could a bad carburetor cause such problems? Because i cleaned it but with not limited pressed air. And the saw did run absolutely fine bevore.
@SliMStaR360 I am no expert on this but when a saw changes how it runs when flipped, I think that indicates an air leak of some sort. You may wanna check into that make sure all your lines are good and seated, make sure bolts are snug and if you blasted towards the crank seals, make sure you check into that as well. May wanna do the brake cleaner test around the PTO crank seal. Definitely before you run it more, find the issue and resolve it otherwise you will burn the saw up if it has an air leak. @superdaveoutdoors is the one who ported my saw and is an echo mechanic. May visit his page. Smaller channel but he is very knowledgeable. He has a ton of Echo content.
@@oakiewoodsman ok. Thanks for your answer. Keep going with that good content. Greetings from germany.
I think I found the problem. I tightened the bolts that hold the carburetor to much and pull out the thread and between the carburetor and the intake manifold was a gap now. So there was my air leak. I put a new thread in and pushed it behind the rubber of the intake manifold.
Super super dall'Italia da Castel beseno Trento
Much Appreciated! Thank you!
I cut those trees with 2511t..stock ..and ported makes no difference..its liggter and one handed.run 14 and 16 bars on them daily..you dont need rear handle .saws..until last few feet
Thanks for watching! Appreciate you telling us your thoughts and methods once again. Be safe and have a good one!
After running my echo 2511 ripsaw i wont go back to stock
@@douglasdonegan9372 you have been ruined! Once you do it, you cannot run stock cause it is a tad boring! Warning to everyone contemplating tinkering with their saws! 🤣
@oakiewoodsman it makes my job alot easier and faster
Awesome. My 2511T is going to get ported as well.
@@oakiewoodsman you'll like it when you're up in a tree
I could have used it recently. I started using my 562XP earlier than I would have liked.