Top 5 Daily Trainers 2023
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- The end of year wrap up continues with my favorite running shoe category - the daily trainer. These are the shoes that I spend most of my time in throughout the year, and these are my Top 5 released in 2023.
0:00 intro
0:52 Disclosures
1:15 supernova rise
2:41 cloudsurfer
4:06 Clifton 9
5:21 1080v13
7:28 novablast 4
disclosures: all of the shoes were provided for the purpose of review so I did not have to pay for any of them. However, no one is paying me to make this video or to include their shoe on this list. Providing a shoe is not a prerequisite for consideration.
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Supernova Rise
- Dreamstrike supercritical foam
- Eva bottom layer
- Comfy upper that is too puffy but a generous toe box compared to other Adidas daily trainers
- • Adidas Supernova Rise
Cloudsurfer
- Cloudtec phase
- No speedboard
- Super puffy upper, but treat yo self
- Review • On Cloudsurfer - This ...
- Update After 100 miles • On Cloudsurfer After 1...
Clifton 9
- Depature from prior Cliftons
- Compression molded Eva? Feels like it might be supercritical - it’s bouncy (vs comfort cruiser)
- Really great pace versatility, from easy day to workouts
- • Clifton 9 - Same Look,...
1080v13
- Fresh foam x feels like what’s in the Clifton 9
- Narrowed their footprints for more lively and agile experience
- Not too much puffiness
- • New Balance Fresh Foam...
Novablast 4
- Already racked up 100 miles
- Great easy day shoe but quick enough to keep up with pros in New York and otq chasers at CIM
- Wear it all day or run in it all day
- FF blast + eco (24% bio based)
- • ASICS Novablast 4
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This guy is so biased man...he has given the Novablast 1, 2 , 3 and 4 as shoe of the year each year...are u kidding me, what a joke. You sir are not an unbiased reviewer sorry.
Hey, I get it that you’re upset about something and there’s no chance I can change your entrenched position, even with facts. But let’s go over the run down:
2023 I haven’t even given you my shoe of the year yet. So chill, bro. It’s not novablast 4. Real ones probably can figure it out.
2022. Novablast 3
2021. I don’t know that I declared a shoe of the year. (This was the year the novablast 2 was released)
2020. Endorphin Speed (this was the year the novablast 1 was released)
2019. Nike Vaporfly Next %
@@kofuzi i been watching your channel for about 1 year and i think you are a great content creator. But you have chosen the novablast as the best daily trainer as follows...
2020 novablast 1
2021 novablast 2
2022 novablast 3
2023 nobablast 4.
Im sorry but every reviewer and everyone who has actually used these shoes knows they are good shoes but they not deserve this kind of praise. All the feedback for the Novablast 4 has been underwhelming from every one i know and every reviewer.
Also one last thing Asics is a company that should be critisized as one of the very few shoe companies that does not allow you yo try on the shoes for a period of time. Nike, Hoka, Puma, Brooks all let you try them on and see if you like them.
I’d love to talk with you about our respective favorite shoes and why we do or don’t enjoy them. But it appears you have not tried this shoe. Perhaps try them. If the ASICS policy is getting in your way, consider going to running retail with a good return policy. Then we can discuss all day long. I have a livestream that I do Monday through Friday on the Kofuzi Run Club channel where these kinds of conversations happen regularly. I’d love to see you there
@@kofuzi i apologize if my comments were too forceful, that was not my intention. You are right i have personally not tried the 4 but the novablast 3 left me so underwhelmed that i believe im taking it out with these comments lol...kofuzi you are legitimately one of the best guys if not not the best on the running community. I really appreciate the feedback. Looks like i have some work to do. 👍
By the way the Rebel V3 is my favorite shoe of all time lol and i know you too are a big fan of it.
Like with the Supershoes, the Top Daily Trainers list would be very interesting if I included 2022 releases
I always look forward to the top 5 year end reviews! Thanks for your honest and excellent opinions, Ko!
Awesome work man! Looking forward to getting back on the Novablast lineup.
Its great to see the New Balance fresh foam line getting more recognition.. been running in 880/1080 for years and keep going back to it after being disapoint with ghost/Triumph etc.
I ran the most in 2022 and 2023 in the Novablast 3, with the Triumph 20 2nd in 2023. Still my SOTY overall is the SuperComp Trainer V2. I only have about 30 miles in the Novablast 4, with my longest run only 8 miles. So far, I will say great shoe and I think the forefoot is better in the 4, but I like the heel better in 3. I need to get some 15 to 20 mile runs in them to truly judge, but so far they are a blast to run in. Fun fact I wore the Novablast 3 for the Damn Yeti 55k trail (mostly smooth, non-tech) race. It did great.
Have 2 Clifton 9's super comfy, right balance for me of being soft, but not too soft. Live in Thailand, not seen the Novablast 4 yet, the 3 very good, bit squishy. Great video as always.
Great list! ❤ Had two pairs of Novablast 3, so I’m excited to try Novablast 4 at an ASICS demo at my local running store tonight!! 🎉🎉🎉
Let me know how it goes!
@@kofuzi So I didn’t run in them last night at the ASICS demo, as they ran out of my size, but I tried them on afterwards and felt awesome! I just walked around in them in store, but step in feel was still squishy and the upper fit was nice, more stretchy and simple, as they said the upper is just a single-walled upper compared to double layer in the 3. Seemed also like more sole flare on either side of the forefoot, which I liked. The foam didn’t seem too different compared to 3, but then again I didn’t get to run in them. I’ll probably get them anyway! 😛
Hey Kofuzi. Discovered you recently when looking at shoe reviews. Really enjoying your vids, especially loved the Boston Marathon vid. I haven't run for quite a few years mostly due to back issues but hoping to get back into it, to a fun level with the family at least.Being a pronater I used to run in Brooks with a bit of stability. I've been reading about the recent science in regards to gait, pronation, natural etc and that what we all believe is not quite right. So I'm going to try the Novablast 4 and see how I travel. I think my fitness starting out will be more of a battle than my foot placement but we will see. Keep the quality coming. Cheers!
Let me know how it goes for you!
I picked up the novablast 4 too and I absolutely love it so far!
glad to hear you're enjoying it!
Great call on the Cloudsurfer 7. It's a shoe that surprised me and many others this year. On Running deserves praise for breaking free of their institutional thinking and finally giving us a shoe without that stupid speedboard. I rewarded them by buying two in different colorways. It's light too. I like to use it for faster/flatter cold days when the TS9's upper gives me frostbite.
Nice rundown!
Really liked the Supernova Rise. Just felt personally for me it needed a bit more 'ooomph' on faster workouts but definitely a step in the right direction for Adidas. Novablast again was really comfortable, but perhaps too comfortable (is that even possible??) for my use as a daily. Might give the Hokas or NB 1080v3 a go next year. OCs just don't appeal to me. Look great… but…I can only think how annoyed I'd be if I got a stone in one of the gaps mid-run!
I've been using my last pair of Pegasus Turbos for dailys this last wee while. But having racked up 350+ miles on them I'm in need of a new daily.
New Peg Turbo 4 pics are doing the rounds on insta! :D Let's pray its better than the Next Nature!!
The Novablast takes the crown again back to back! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Great review Mike as always
We both choose Novablast 4 as My Daily Trainer of the Year in My Channel
Very interesting list. Are you planning on doing a top 5 speed shoes and ultimate shoe rotations 2023? You know we want to see them.
Speed shoes, yes. Ultimate rotation, perhaps.
Would love to see “ultimate rotation”
@@kofuzi I would love to see the ultimate shoes rotation including with your trail shoes of choice, Mike.
My favorite is the New Balance Feulcell Supercomp Trainer V2. It’s like the 1080 V3 without the gnocchi pillows.
Some people respond well to the SC Trainer 2 and can use it for both easy and fast running.
For me, I consider it in the max cushion category so it’s not in contention for this list
I wish Reebok made a good shoe that was on par with all of these daily shoes. I am a hardcore fan of the Floatride 4. What a shoe that was!
I'd like to predict that Kofuzi picks the Puma Deviate Nitro 2 as shoe of the year. For two reasons: 1) He seems to love running in it and he said it feels the most "Boston" like to him. 2) I feel like he'd want to recognize the rise of the Puma Brand. People love their Nitro foam and they are creating an awesome lineup of race shoes, tempo shoes, and recovery shoes.
I just got my Novablast 4’s today!!! Taking them out for a 6 miler tomorrow morning … so excited!!!
Hope you have fun!
How were they? I'm thinking of buying a pair.
I’d be very interested if you incorporated how previous year’s shoes slide in between or above or below these shoes. I think many are running on a limited budget so it would be really helpful to understand how those shoes compare as previous years are likely still in stock. The assumption is that each year the shoes get better, but that might not always be the case.
Really appreciate your content as always. Cheers and happy holidays!
If you go to the reviews of any of these shoes (links in description) you will find that I have already provided detailed alternatives, including comparisons to prior versions where relevant
I started with running this year and my daily trainiers are OnCloudmonster and the Novablast 3 which I took also as the race shoe for NYC'23 because it felt so comfy.
I'm curious and concerned about the slots on the cloudmonsters. Let me know how they hold up.
Im new to this game and have been blown away by how shoes can change and fix everything with my runs. And Kofuzi has shown me the way. Thank u sir.
Happy running!!
I didn't even heard of Kofuzi when I had my favourites NB2 and NB3, and I am loving the NB4 as well. Some brands just makes things that fit, feel or looks better for some of us. Remember, all of Kofuzi's top/favourite listings are purely based on what his legs and body tell him, and seriously I think that's why we follow him. We want to know what he thinks, and NOT what his other followers think.. We all have our favourite brands for every consumer item out there, but that doesn't mean we cannot try to be objective...
Thank you for the support
lol - it's called paid placement bro. why does you think he and everyone else doin this product review on YT? me, i get my cheapest bo-bo shoe for $12.99 on Amazon and they great.
Saucony Triumph is noticeably absent. Logged the most miles in that shoe. Love it.
agree! amazing shoe
Too stiff and narrow
Just bought a second pair because there was a discount
We're all different. Everyone’s list would vary if we all had a chance to try the same shoes.
I had the triumph 19. Loved it, got 2 more pairs to trade off days. Now those are coming to end of usability, going to buy 2 more triumph 19s. Love that shoe, but know that it isn't for everyone
I am so tempted to try the supernova rise.
Love my NovaBlast 3
Great videos as always. Please, can you do the best easy day shoes, best recovery shoes, best tempo-day shoes?
You have just watched the easy day shoes video. Last week, I did race day shoes.
Coming up at speed work shoes and max cushion shoes
I just bought the Novablast 4 a week ago, and I'm so happy to pick the number 1 shoe!
Hope you enjoy!
The surfer was a great change, but just to soft for my runs (I am pretty heavy footed). I actually loved the Stratus 3, the speed board in that one helped bounce me off the ground enough.
I suspect/hope that On will continue with two categories of shoes. Speedboard and no speedboard + cloudtec phase
My top vote would be for the Saucony Triumph. It just got a refresh this year (i.e. no major changes), but that isn't a bad thing since it's such a good shoe imo. I think most, if not all, the shoes on this list got major changes in 2023, so perhaps that was the criteria used.
the most relevant criteria for me here is that I have been putting the Triumph in the max cushion category (Saucony also has the Kinvara, Ride, and (maybe) Guide that fit more squarely into the daily trainer category).
But like the 1080, perhaps it is time to put it in the daily trainers
@@kofuzi if u did put it in daily trainer for this video where would it of ranked?
and then there's the Ride 17 coming out soon which is also another great option with a durable outsole and midsole thanks to the pwrrun plus refusing to die. My triumph 20s with 300 miles feel amazing still
“Gnocchi pillow” love it!
Been a long time viewer, started running late 2019 and bought the Peg 36 on your recommendation (in the wrong size which I was unaware of initially)
Stopped in 2020 (due to injury and pandemic), and just got back late this year with a Bondi 8, extra wide this time, since I thought the shoe size was the one causing the pain during and after the run.
Point is, I still prefer the Peg 36, and I'm glad that we have the same preference when it comes to feel so I can have a solid recommendation. IT'S PREFERENCE in the end of the day.
If the Supernova Rise is a better "Pegasus" then I might just cop one once it goes on sale. Merry Christmas, Kofuzi
the Adizero SL is probably closer albeit a touch more firm. it will have, however, that familiar snugness.
Vomero 17 is probably the closest on the market at the moment, although it is a bit more plush
I have Peg 40 and I like it very much, it still brings you traditional ride but somehow energy return is quite good
Since the Superonva Rise just lunched y honestly think the Adizero SL should in here. Those are awesome shoes.
He gave it an honorable mention
Good to see the Clifton making this list.
Boston 12 was for sure my fave this year. It was great return to form for Adidas
Different category, that's super trainer
I was just wondering who on earth would choose the Supernova Rise over the B12.
Agreed on Adidas kinda flunked with their daily trainer even though the "speed" shoes in Boston 12, Takumi 8/9, Adios Pro are all crazy good. It's frustrating sometimes to look at the like of Asics that has a very good daily trainer in Novablast or Nimbus even. But will be giving the Supernova Rise a go soon and hoping that it will be good. Thanks Ko for the video and happy holiday to you and fam!
What is the weight and stack height of this shoe?
Yeah man! Just picked up the ON Cloudsurfer last week. REI had that orange color way on clearance for $79. (Only that color was on clearance for some reason) Couldn’t pass it up - especially after just retiring my Saucony Rid 16 daily trainers after 430 miles a day before seeing that sale. I’ve already put a few runs in them and they’re pretty nice.
That’s a great price!
Im getting back into running and i currently use the invincible run 2 and i like em a lot but i think im gonna switch over to the 1080v13 from New Balance. Ive been converted from Nike to New Balance in the lifestyle category and now the running category is taken over by new balance as well!
Glad the Clifton 9 got a spot here - really enjoyed that one this year. Best Clifton in a long time! That and Novablast 3 🙌🏾
I had the 8 and it was a good shoe but it sucked up so much energy return I’ve never bought a Hoka shoes since. It still looks like a decent option for a regular EVA shoe.
Still loving the New Balance Rebel, though the v2 upper seemed slightly more comfortable than v3. I'm intrigued by the Adidas Supernova Rise and its forgiving toe box, may have to check that one out. Nice group, thanks! And when it comes to puffy pasta, give me ravioli over gnocchi every time, though that would be excessive for shoe padding.😁
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The Rebel v3 is a brilliant shoe. Can do anything that the shoes in this video can, and for a lot less £.
Very interesting to see ON get into the top 5. I hope to see more from them next year since their shoes look nice. Always turned off by the speed boards. Cheers!
I haven't asked specifically about it, but I suspect that there will be two forks in the On lineup. analogous to the Fuelcell vs Fresh Foam X division in NB, I can see On having one segment of shoes with clouds and speed boards and another segment with cloudtec phase and no speed boards (cloudsurfer and cloud eclipse).
I’m SO happy to see an ON here. 😊
I’ve been rooting for them for a long time, and now the product is finally getting to where it needs to be
@@kofuzi I’m weird. I’ve liked them for years (except the original Cloudstratus)
I love 1080v13 - my favorite daily trainer this year. Cushion but not too much. Good for recovery run, easy run and long run.
I have the v11. It had squish but no real bounce. The outsoles wore out super fast and I was slipping like crazy before retiring them. How do the 13's compare?
@@luimulder3768IMO, they looks the same but are a lot different. I myself dislike v11 and v12. Like you said, no real bounce or energy return. In the other hand, V13 is really light and bouncy, cushion but stable. And it looks better in real life, haha.
About durability, I'm afraid the same. Not much rubber on the outsole.@@luimulder3768
@@albustran4855 i dont know about stable......
Love my Clifton 9s...amazing trainers
they did a great job this year with it
“Gnocchi pillow”!!! You’re killing the description game, Kofuzi 😂
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Wearing the ON Cloudsurfer on the TM while watching this. Glad mine never started to squeak like some peoples' do.
I didn’t have that either. It for some people, that’s the only thing they talk about with the shoe. And I’m like, even if it’s super noisy, like who cares? Did you like it? Did you have fun?
I’m glad that I got the novablast 4 a week prior before this video came out, definitely made the right choice lol
hope you enjoy!
My pick is Saucony Triumphs 20❤ They are just amazing.
Great shoe from 2022 and into 2023, Triumph 21 notwithstanding
I was really surprised to see the 1080v13 in your list as I use the 1080v12 as a recovery shoe and the 880v12 as a daily trainer. I have a pair of 1080v13s in the basement but I haven't taken them out yet as there's lots of miles to go on the 1080v12s. Maybe I should take it out. I usually don't do that as I wind up with shoes that I don't use enough because I like something else more.
My favourite do it all daily trainer is the Triumph 20. What a shoe
I'd have to give it a try.
an oldie but a goodie
same
I'm on my 5th pair of T20s. Plus you can now get them for $70
just picked triumph 20 yesterday with bargain price, definitely love it
Hi everyone. For daily trainer I prefer the nb fuelcell Rebel v3. Like from Spain.Happy Holidays.
It’s a great shoe. It just didn’t get updated in 2023.
2024 should be interesting
Nice Review Mr K, I was wondering where the Adidas Boston 12 and the ON Cloud Eclipse are on your lineup for this year?
The Boston series continues to disappoint me. It’s gotten better, but it has lost its way
@@kofuzi I respect your opinion. I am looking for a replacement for my SL20.2's. Maybe I'll give the Supernova Rise a shot.
I bought two pairs of Novablast 3 this year and even ran a marathon in each (I am a slow runner, LOL). These are the best trainers for sure. Looking forward to trying Novablast 4 at my local running store tomorrow. But, what surprised me about this top 5 is NB 1080. Demo ran in them, super comfortable and cushy for sure, and surprisingly faster for cushy they are but, felt very unstable anytime I was taking a turn. May be I should get used to them more? Thoughts?
The Novablast is longer and more stable than the 1080s for sure. The Triumph is more comparable if you're looking for a change. Honestly, the Novablast 3 is the best version so you wouldn't go wrong sticking with them especially as prices fall.
Novablast 4 and 1080v13 have the properties of a max cushion shoe that come close to the likes of the triumph and nimbus. It's getting harder and harder to separate shoes these days because everything is supposedly a daily trainer. Even shoes like the Speed 3 and DVN 2 are considered for daily use and they have plates in them....I'm all for trends but I do miss the days when companies dished out daily trainers with a heel stack no greater than 30 or 31mm and left everything else for a different category. Wouldn't be suprised if the peg 41 is going to be a higher stack as well when you what's been done with the kinvara series
Novablast 4 is so close to being the perfect shoe in my opinion. A little more springiness and better traction (espescially on icy roads!) would make it a no brainer best shoe.
Yay novablast!
The on cloud was the noisiest shoe I've ever had. Relentlessly squeaky if you get them wet. I got rid of them before they were completely worn out because I just couldnt take it any more. Back to the Novablast.
noise is the only complaint I've heard about the shoe
Are those shoes suitable for flat footed runners too?
Great list! I’m curious if the SL slipped through the cracks between this and last year’s list, or if it didn’t quite make the cut in your opinion.
tbh, I don't remember when it was released, but even if it were a 2023 release, I think that it's a beautiful daily trainer for shorter distance/faster runners. But for the road marathon runners, I think a more cushioned and more comfortable shoe is appropriate.
Fair enough, while I put a lot of miles on the SL in my last build, it was more for shorter easy miles with pickups and strides - had some toe squishing that made me wary of taking it out for longer runs. Kind of wish the rise was a touch lighter tbh.
The intro music!
Not sure of the official category, but Brooks Hyperion Max is my go to daily trainer.
I would put it as a speed work shoe, but you’re not wrong
I would have been shocked if you picked anything other than the NB4 for your top slot lol.
I haven't tried most of these , i do love my Speeds for my daily trainer
Unfortunately, the Endorphin Speed didn’t get an update in 2023
@@kofuzi true true
Interesting to see 3 models here that others have labelled as disappointing (s.nova, NB1080, novablast 4). Shows how a lot depends on personal preferences.
Exactly the point I always like to make!
I always trust Kofuzi’s judgment however he may still be in the honeymoon phase with those new shoes. Let’s see where things land after another 8 weeks or so. If they work for him that’s awesome! We all have our individual tastes and preferences. I can’t judge as I’ve never had those two new shoes on foot to test.
I think it’s pretty clear I like very bouncy squishy shoes. I’ve told you guys many times that the main feedback I give to brands is
“If you think it might hurt some ankles, you’re on the right track”
True that Kofuzi! Love ya brother.
If I need to choose between Novablast 4 and superblast, which do you recommend?
I already watched your Superblast video, so i am curious about your opinion.
I like those two shoes for slightly different use cases. So the answer changes depending on what kind of running shoe you are looking for.
Are you the eric guy on reddit? Exact same top 5 list with mileage identical too and he posted it a month or so earlier
All good shoes on this list. I’ve been enjoying them all. (Still can’t bring myself to the On as the models I tried in 2015 sucked)
I like the new stuff from On quite a bit
@@kofuzi I reluctantly just bought the cloudeclipse.
Superblast and Saucony Triumph for me
Do you have specific criteria for a daily trainer? The lines are very blurry between daily trainers and max cushioned shoes. Are you classifying plated trainers separately? I know many of us are using these as daily shoes as well.
I generally don't use plates as a classifying criteria except for racing shoes (although if I see a great racing shoe without a plate or carbon, I wouldn't exclude it from consideration in the carbon plated racer category)
a daily trainer is a shoe that can be used for the bulk of your miles. great for easy runs (your every day run), recovery runs, and even some light workouts. great contenders in this class are also fun and exciting.
someone else's criteria may vary.
Would the New Balance SC Trainer v2 be more in the super trainer category versus daily trainer? Would love to get your take on that and how it'd fit in with the shoes mentioned here.
I don't recognize the super trainer category. the SC Trainer 2 is a max cushion shoe for me.
I do acknowledge that some people do enjoy running fast in the SC Trainer 2. I am not one of those people.
Do you do reviews on Altra shoes? My feet are girthy so a lot of shoes hurt so been thinking about trying those out. Just wasn't sure how good they are as daily trainers and racers@@kofuzi
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Superblast got my vote i dont care if it came out late 2022. Im going on my 3rd pair.
I wouldn't really put the superblast in the daily trainer category tho, but I do acknowledge that some people use it that way
either way, it's an excellent shoe
I still have to decide which will be my daily trainer. Why did you choose the novablast over the superblast?
My current rotation includes: NB ffm v4, Endorphin speed 3 and Ghost 14 (which i wanne echange for another daily trainer)
I use the Superblast differently. To use an Adidas analogy:
I use the Superblast like a Prime X. And the novablast like a Boston.
Boston 12's are my daily trainer of the year!
My biggest problem with the Boston is that it shouldn’t be a daily trainer. But maybe I’m being too sentimental
@@kofuzi just curious, why doesn't it categorise as a daily trainer to you?
clipse is reallty my fav trainer
Really enjoying Puma Velocity 2 as my daily trainer right now 👍
I'm interested in possibly giving them a go. Can you describe them in more detail, pros and cons?
A great workhorse
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A different question but, when you retire your shoes do you throw them away, donate, or shelf it? Curious your process what you do with older shoes with foams that are flat/done/used up.
I usually use my retired shoes as walking shoes, yard/lawn mowing shoes, or donate them. My local running store takes old shoes in any condition. Depending on their condition, they said they’ll either donate them or send them to a place that recycles materials from old shoes.
Most of them would go on the shelf. It I’ve run out of shelf. They are currently on the floor
I’m surprised the supernova made the list. I haven’t had a good experience with non adizero shoes. This definitely peaks my interest.
it's a welcome departure
YEEEEESSS! Another year with the Novablast at the top! Strangely, and I already said this a few months ago, I was scared that the Pumo Deviate Nitro 2 would become your new Novablast 3, and it's not even in the list! Why is that, since you loved the shoe so much back then??
It’s a speed work shoe in my mind. That category is coming up next
Given the Novablast 3 is now discounted, do you feel it’s just as good to pick up? I understand the upper changes but are they worth the extra cost?
For the 40$ difference I’d go NB 4. It feels firmer but I’ve found it softens up as you go. Runs a bit bigger than the 3 though I found. I think the 4 is a big upgrade
I think it depends on your preferences. If you like the novablast in a max squishy bouncy state, get the 3. If you want it a bit toned down, go with the 4.
I have yet to see any Novablast 4 in the retail stores over here. Even the Asics stores are still selling the NB 3.
I am unaware of the global release schedule
I got the cloudsurfer and had to return it. For some reason I felt like the ball of my foot was sinking into the foam so much deeper than the rest of my foot. I have never experienced that sensation in any other shoe.
what do you typically run in?
@@kofuzi hi! I have destroyed one of every altra model lol and my other daily trainer is the NB More V4. I like them a lot because they give be comfort after a big day but they aren’t too squishy. I also run in Salomon Ultra 3 on the trail and I have Arcteryx shoes for when it snows a lot on the trail. I might just prefer firm shoes
Interesting! I respect the reviews. But damn do I hate the cloudsurfer for running. It’s phenomenal for walking and feels exactly like its namesake. But the integrity of the design falls apart on every impact as I feel my feet blow through the foam.
Have you also checked Adidas Supernova 2.0? is it similar in feel and fit to the rise model?
I am not familiar with supernova 2.0
grrrrr really didn't want to buy the 1080v13 but i think i will have to
But would you add shoes in there that you did not receive from the manufacturer?
Hey Ko, Mach 5 vs Clifton 9, which do you prefer?
mach 5
The Intro music is cracking me up!
It wasn’t meant to be funny but I’m glad I could make you laugh
whats so funny about it? lol
i already have nb3 should i go for nb4 or NB 1080 v13 as my new daily traner shoes?
both are great options. if you want something similar, go for NB4. if you want to mix it up and try something a bit different (but also excellent), go for 1080
Unrelated question, but how would you compare the rocket X2 to the endorphin speed 3?
One is a workout shoe that can sometimes for some people be used as a daily trainer. The other is a race shoe
X2 is the race shoe (I don't have one) and the speed is a great shoe for multipurpose runs. You have to keep your ego in check, though, or you may completely f up your zone 2 intended workout😅
I wonder why the 1080v13 splits opinion so much? Some love them others hate them - unfortunately I'm in the latter camp and find they don't give any energy return or bounce. Could there be a manufacturing issue so they're not all built the same?
That’s always possible, especially where seeding pairs sent to some reviewers arrived four or five months ahead of production release.
The other thing to consider is how much expectation is going into the shoe. For example, I have strong opinions on what a Boston should be. So when I get the Boston 12, I’m reviewing against a certain set of desired spec. And that may be different than what Adidas is trying to deliver.
Similarly, some people (to the extent I can speak for what other people are thinking or hoping for) may have certain ideas as to what a 1080 should be. I mentioned in my 1080 review and here that the shoe has undergone quite an identity shift (so much so as to switch categories from max cushion to daily), and that could be one reason.
I sent back the More v4 because the moulding seemed off. I was getting major friction in the heel. I bought same exact shoe and I'm having no issue as before and absolutely loving them!
Nice review! Have you ever tested the shoes they send you versus the ones on the market? Just curious if you would notice a difference!
I’ve only had to do that when a shoe was unbelievably bad, just to ensure I didn’t get a dud. That was with a couple different years of Pegasus.
@@kofuzi Makes sense! I’ve just always wondered if the “sent-out” versions were slightly more polished, as opposed to the mass produced version on the market. With return policies being decent these days that tactic could be a thing of the past. Appreciate it!
What about New Balance SC trainer v2 in compare with 1080 v13 ? In EU they are in the same sale price right now.
I do use the SC Trainer 2 for easy runs, but I’ll be considering it in the max cushion category. And I think that is the best way to consider the two (although I do recognize that some people enjoy running fast in the SC Trainer 2)
Novablast 3 definite winner of 2022. The 4 is not an upgrade performance wise. 2023 winner
Please do review of Takumi Sen 10. It's in Australia Adidas shop.
I unboxed it on the livestream yesterday. I’ve had it less than 24 hours
Very surprising to see the Supernova Rise make the list.
I have fun in it
How is the puma foreverrun working out for you?
I like it more and more
@@kofuzi do you consider it to be a Max cushion? Or would you add a new category for stability, could be a good video?
Is the novablast 4 better than the previous version?
If you thought NB3 was too unstable, then yes. Otherwise, maybe no.
The Cloudsurfer has become noisy, when compressed the clouds almost sound like they're sticking together. I've heard a few complaints about them.
Luckily that hasn’t happened with mine but I hope they address that in the future. Why didn’t you send them back and ask for a replacement? I would.
@@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 it happens in the forefoot from my experience. Possibly with the clouds now at an angle. I'm not sure if moisture from the insole is getting down there or just trapped moisture between the clouds.
Put oil,it will stop it
I'll have to give the Novablast a try. Asics Gel Nimbus 25 and Saucony Triumph for me.
some good extra cushion options