Did you learn that from CZcams? You don't know who had priority. Just cuz they were deeper and up first doesn't always mean it's their wave. a long board gets into waves sooner than a short board so if you post up on aomeone like that and take their wave and claim it was yours dont be surprised when you get kicked off the the break and put in your place.
@@ghus528hz your family is bs. Yeh learning from a youtybe video than trying to tell people that been doing this for generations is bad. CZcams is bad. It gives idiots like you a voice
Watched it like 20 times…the short boarder is in the wrong…and a danger to other surfers. Snaking people is a bad practice..greed is ugly in any situation…
Shows how the difference in where you are at makes it a hell of alot easier to catch a wave. Both these dudes handled this very well. It happens. So don't lose your mind. RLTW 3/75
When I first met that dude I had no idea he was famous. He is just excited about being here and getting to chat with us. He's definitely a humble person.
On pure face value short boarder was snaking, so longboards wave, but don't know the whole story tho. Maybe longboarder paddled past him in the lineup then fair game to the shortboarder.
Brah that is the exact definition of being a “snake, snaking a wave” i.e. taking off behind the rider who was up & riding - who was paddling first for the wave & had already caught the wave… then the “snake” later claiming he was shoulder hopped & had the right of way… the guy “snaked a wave”- a pariah, the lowest form of a surfer & worse underhanded conduct comes from a “snake”. There is no argument here only Slaps.
Maybe red caught 3 nice set waves in a row and was time for the others on smaller boards. They would love a shot at it too. Just because you're on a bigger board and can get in earlier does not mean you ALAWAYS have priority.
so if you're the one and there's 20 shortboarders sitting under the take off zone. What's the quota, how many times I've let them roll through only to see the wave missed by lack of volume. I try as a longboarder to get a conversation going with the shorties that can surf and then let them know that if they are it the right spot I'll call them on.
@@roscius6204 And for me, Ill hold back from dropping in on that one longboard dude paddling into everything from out the back just for him to kick out and waste the inside section every time and knee paddle right back out to where he just was. You gotta know when to be a dbag and when not to, plain and simple
Short board almost got ran over, if you don't see the problem then don't be surfing, here in Florida they'll fck you up for stealing waves and cutting people off
@@jaysanchez760 Are you saying the surfer with the red outlined board did not have priority? Because if you are, you sir do not know the rules... #keepkooking
@@jcat29 your saying you dont see a conflict here..... i do. Dumbass either tried to snake the wave or didn't pay attn. Conflict. Born n raised on the west side of oahu . Been surfing and slapping haoles for over 30 years now. 🤙🏾
“Longboarder”… “shortboarder”… 😬 Both of these guys are riding guns, or larger step-up boards. That red and yellow board is not some traditional longboard, look at it 👀 tons of rocker
I have a similar painted yellow board with red edges double swallow tail four fin. Can’t read the shaper’s name it’s old and faded. Always wondered if it’s from a well known shaper. I call it a Jerry Lopez but i don’t know!
@@fairbanksairriders Hey 👋 I’m pretty knowledgeable about vintage surfboards. Also have mentors with much more experience and connection. If you wanna identify it, let me know 🤙
@@roblentz81 - yes please! I’ve seen many boards with this similar paint design yellow with red edges. Not sure if they are all from the same shaper or copying an older style like Jerry Lopez, some of his 1970’s boards look like this. Thanks from Fairbanks Alaska - it’s a long story but we still get to Hawaii occasionally. ;-)
What is wrong with people in this comment section? Seriously do none of you surf? This isn’t a longboard and a short board… it’s a gun and a step up, guns are for big waves like really big, step ups sure for big waves. It’s incredible to see the amount of kooks in this thread lol
@@EDCsteals yeah I mean context right, most the people here are arguing about surf etiquette… why the fuck would you argue or even understand surf etiquette if you didn’t surf? Makes no sense at all, so assuming most people arguing about this are just kooks.
In this case he paddled from closer to the peak and turned to the inside to avoid the shortboarder. Rememeber a shortboarders can only take the wave later, so he had a right to go for it and pull out. Otherwise we waste waves on over-optimistic, greedy longboarders. N.B paddling closer to the peak is more important than paddling from deeper, otherwise we'd all just have to get SUPs/longboards to get any waves.
he is on gun ! turning to the inside is just to take the line !! so in someway the short helped him very much !! :o) In my opinion he paddled , trying to eat priority to the short ! but was not able. he saw he would not have, he should have stop. the gun or longboard see it all , it is his responsability to stop or prevent ( "HIP HIP!") the short :) never had any troubles but with idiots and to say, chasing a backfoot or leach ...is fun too :o)
@@chefstirstonguy "underneath" caught it late but too slow to make it around the break so he purposefully dismounted to avoid losing position for the paddle back out
@@chefstirston they both caught the wave and were up and riding down the face. He didn't fall off he dismounted because the curl had passed him. Do you even surf?
Where I'm from that's called "snaking". The guy on the small board tried to "snake" that wave away from the big boarder. So after that everyone will start calling the small boarder a SNAKE UNTIL HE MAKES AMENDS.
I'm pretty sure thats Ben Gravy on a borrowed board. He was surfing with Zeke I believe. There was no harm by anyone but Adolf Straightoff probably took a couple waves on the head.
Red board has the right to the wave since he was coming from further back and therefore earlier. However, they both ended up on the wave and even tho red board has the right to the wave, he should exit in order to avoid the other guy having to jump of right where the foam is coming.
Red and yellow board is the one who has rights to that wave he was outside further, even though other guy was closest to the breaking wave in this case no he can't say it's his.
Evidentemente tiene preferencia el longboard pero odio cuando abusan con sus boards para coger todo el tiempo las olas mas profundo que nadie y ganar siempre la preferencia.
For all those who feel they can rewrite surfing etiquette. It's first up, then closest to peak... STFU Image the surfer on the gun had caught the wave even further out, let's say 30m further out. Does he then, in your mind, need to protect the peak and therefore no roundhouse cutbacks. See, it becomes absurd the moment you magnify the problem.
Realisticly was the red boards wave , but it was obvious the other fellow was oblivious to the fellow was behind him..so l wouldnt call it a snake ... These things happen red board handled it well.
Everyone in the comments burning the shortboarder after watching a 15 second clip 😂 the longboarder could be on his 40th wave after paddling out past everyone and taking every set wave 🤷♂️ who knows. Who cares.
Didn’t look an intentional snake to me. Red boards wave all day and short board did a decent job getting out of the way when he realised how close he’d gotten to him. Could have been a nasty clash
You are wrong. In comps and in standard surf etiquette. here's why... Image the surfer on the gun had caught the wave even further out, let's say 30m further out. Does he then, in your mind, need to protect the peak and therefore no roundhouse cutbacks. See, it becomes absurd the moment you magnify the problem.
Yeah nah you’re wrong bud. Whipping it under someone who is already on a wave doesn’t fly. Maybe in a lineup full of kooks, if that’s what you’re used to
OK I get it, the shortboarder "back paddled" meaning he undercut the other surfer who appears to have the right of way. But technically the guy who's deeper, it's his wave. There is another rule to apply here, the guy who paddles first claims the wave first. However, applying all of these rules, it didn't matter in this case, because there was no conflict because the deeper guy didn't make it anyway. He was too deep. So that fact alone ends this discussion.
Image the surfer on the gun had caught the wave even further out, let's say 30m further out. Does he then, in your mind, need to protect the peak and therefore no roundhouse cutbacks. See, it becomes absurd the moment you magnify the problem.
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Red boards wave all day.
Yep, but I can see how the white board guy might've thought that the red board guy dropped in on him out of nowhere.
@@mikel5582please.. no
Both are kooks for being on guns in head high surf though
@@chrispalmer1255 Found the hawaiian who thinks he is cool downsizing wave height
Long boarder was able to catch deeper and further out, and was also first to popup. His wave.
Yep legal imho he could get outta there no prob however if he crashed total yard sale but only a newbie or advanced guy would do this
its not a longboard it's a gun
Did you learn that from CZcams? You don't know who had priority. Just cuz they were deeper and up first doesn't always mean it's their wave. a long board gets into waves sooner than a short board so if you post up on aomeone like that and take their wave and claim it was yours dont be surprised when you get kicked off the the break and put in your place.
@@primocancilla3390apparently learning from YT isn’t bad. Your comment is BS.
@@ghus528hz your family is bs. Yeh learning from a youtybe video than trying to tell people that been doing this for generations is bad. CZcams is bad. It gives idiots like you a voice
Ive backed off so many waves from people in front paddling up to line out and taking every wave from the inside. Fair play to the longboarder
That’s a gun not a longboard
@@jackvolkwyn470what a Barney right?
@@seangoodwin8048amen brother
@jackvolkwyn470 that's definitely a longboard
@@FrankieCoyazo okay kook
YOU KNOW DA RULEZ!
You’ve made it to the twelfth I see👀
You know da rulezzzzz
You wan smacks?!
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😂😂 yeah Sterling !!
Watched it like 20 times…the short boarder is in the wrong…and a danger to other surfers. Snaking people is a bad practice..greed is ugly in any situation…
20 times? The worst paddling, I ve ever seen🤣
Cant stand people like you. For all we know the longboarder is the snake.
he can barely stand up yet hes out at big blacks 😂
@@TheDrummer4yahweh wow, you watched it 20 times and still can't get a clue 😂🤦
@@lloydchristmas1086let a man practice
That guy on the short board probably snaked 10 before that 😂
I wouldn't be surprised.
That’s Ben gravy…..definitely didn’t…..but you can watch the vlog for yourself 🤷🏾♂️
He didn’t snake anybody
Longboarder also up first and was technically on the inside.Lekka wave too
That was a fair catch of the wave. Closest to the white water gets the wave. The long baorder had thd wave first.
Nah bullshit. Longboat caught the wave while it was still a lump. Other guy caught when there was an actual wall.
To be honest, I'd do the same. That wave was so fat I'd never expect anyone that far back to catch it
@@LilleyAdam dude, the shortboarder tried to body block the longboarder. Longboarder was further inside and on the wave first, it's not even a debate
@@LilleyAdam You seem to know nothing about this
@@maddrop I bet you SUP
Shows how the difference in where you are at makes it a hell of alot easier to catch a wave. Both these dudes handled this very well. It happens. So don't lose your mind. RLTW 3/75
Well said, AATW 1/325
That was red board (Ben Gravy) all time priority, other dude tried to play one of the most annoying games in surfing in a crowd.
That’s Ben gravy. Great time getting to meet and surf with him that day
must have been a blast. such a humble guy.
If you don't get along with us Jersey folk, it's your fault. Ben had that wave from the true peak.
@@furiousNJ did anybody say something like that`?
When I first met that dude I had no idea he was famous. He is just excited about being here and getting to chat with us. He's definitely a humble person.
@@furiousNJ jersey surfers always send it when I've surfed with them in hawaii! must be born in huge beachbreak
Didn't know such a thing existed, good stuff.
Already taken when the second started swimming. No discussion.
On pure face value short boarder was snaking, so longboards wave, but don't know the whole story tho. Maybe longboarder paddled past him in the lineup then fair game to the shortboarder.
the surfer (ben gravy) was sitting deeper and paddled first so he gets priority, not to mention he got up first too
The amount of waves I've backed off on and the guy who has priority didn't even catch the wave pisses me off. Just go for it, wherever you are
Yep
Brah that is the exact definition of being a “snake, snaking a wave” i.e. taking off behind the rider who was up & riding - who was paddling first for the wave & had already caught the wave… then the “snake” later claiming he was shoulder hopped & had the right of way… the guy “snaked a wave”- a pariah, the lowest form of a surfer & worse underhanded conduct comes from a “snake”. There is no argument here only Slaps.
Yah brah, faka had no situational awareness.
Well said. Ill respect a dude who burns people and lives by it before I respect a dude who paddles around others and claims victimhood
Maybe red caught 3 nice set waves in a row and was time for the others on smaller boards. They would love a shot at it too. Just because you're on a bigger board and can get in earlier does not mean you ALAWAYS have priority.
so if you're the one and there's 20 shortboarders sitting under the take off zone. What's the quota, how many times I've let them roll through only to see the wave missed by lack of volume.
I try as a longboarder to get a conversation going with the shorties that can surf and then let them know that if they are it the right spot I'll call them on.
@@roscius6204 And for me, Ill hold back from dropping in on that one longboard dude paddling into everything from out the back just for him to kick out and waste the inside section every time and knee paddle right back out to where he just was. You gotta know when to be a dbag and when not to, plain and simple
I don't see any conflict there. Red board caught and surfed the wave. Second dude didn't hold a line and had opportunity to do so.
Short board almost got ran over, if you don't see the problem then don't be surfing, here in Florida they'll fck you up for stealing waves and cutting people off
Its because you dont....
KNOW DEE RULEZ! 😂
kookykookster
@@jaysanchez760 Are you saying the surfer with the red outlined board did not have priority? Because if you are, you sir do not know the rules... #keepkooking
@@jcat29 no. He absolutely had priority...wtf are you saying lol
@@jcat29 your saying you dont see a conflict here..... i do. Dumbass either tried to snake the wave or didn't pay attn.
Conflict.
Born n raised on the west side of oahu . Been surfing and slapping haoles for over 30 years now. 🤙🏾
“Longboarder”… “shortboarder”… 😬
Both of these guys are riding guns, or larger step-up boards.
That red and yellow board is not some traditional longboard, look at it 👀 tons of rocker
I have a similar painted yellow board with red edges double swallow tail four fin. Can’t read the shaper’s name it’s old and faded. Always wondered if it’s from a well known shaper. I call it a Jerry Lopez but i don’t know!
@@fairbanksairriders Hey 👋 I’m pretty knowledgeable about vintage surfboards. Also have mentors with much more experience and connection. If you wanna identify it, let me know 🤙
@@roblentz81 - yes please! I’ve seen many boards with this similar paint design yellow with red edges. Not sure if they are all from the same shaper or copying an older style like Jerry Lopez, some of his 1970’s boards look like this. Thanks from Fairbanks Alaska - it’s a long story but we still get to Hawaii occasionally. ;-)
@@fairbanksairriders Best to get a few pictures and then we can really see what you’re working with. Do you have Instagram?
shortboarder saw him paddling, shortboarder is in the wrong
But how could you see that?
hard to say, but he should have and was definitely in the wrong.
@@catherinen8547 If he didnt see him, he has no situational awareness and is still wrong
What is wrong with people in this comment section? Seriously do none of you surf? This isn’t a longboard and a short board… it’s a gun and a step up, guns are for big waves like really big, step ups sure for big waves. It’s incredible to see the amount of kooks in this thread lol
What’s wrong with u is thinking the majority of the world is supposed to know this stuff about surfing
@@EDCsteals Not the majority of the world but if they're arguing about it then they should know what they're arguing about
@@EDCsteals Not the majority of the world but if they're arguing about it then they should know what they're arguing about
@@EDCsteals yeah I mean context right, most the people here are arguing about surf etiquette… why the fuck would you argue or even understand surf etiquette if you didn’t surf? Makes no sense at all, so assuming most people arguing about this are just kooks.
For real.. came here to say the same thing lol
In this case he paddled from closer to the peak and turned to the inside to avoid the shortboarder. Rememeber a shortboarders can only take the wave later, so he had a right to go for it and pull out. Otherwise we waste waves on over-optimistic, greedy longboarders. N.B paddling closer to the peak is more important than paddling from deeper, otherwise we'd all just have to get SUPs/longboards to get any waves.
he is on gun !
turning to the inside is just to take the line !!
so in someway the short helped him very much !! :o)
In my opinion he paddled , trying to eat priority to the short ! but was not able. he saw he would not have, he should have stop.
the gun or longboard see it all , it is his responsability to stop or prevent ( "HIP HIP!") the short :)
never had any troubles but with idiots
and to say, chasing a backfoot or leach ...is fun too :o)
I'm so glad he asserted his wave.
Bro tried to under paddle. No bueno!
I hate when people paddle under you (and in the way). Outside guy needed to change his line.
It was his wave but that other guy got off of it no problem and it didn’t escalate
Backsiders wave. He’s committed. Dude behind trying to call him of will make me laugh so first up , in most, as in this is his time to shine
Short boarder's the kook here for sure brah
@calldomdatallc7001 did he ever really catch the wave or just fell off of it
@@chefstirstonguy "underneath" caught it late but too slow to make it around the break so he purposefully dismounted to avoid losing position for the paddle back out
@@davidgough3512 you say caught it late, but then say he was too slow... he didnt catch that wave.. thats why the other guy catches it and zooms away
@@chefstirston they both caught the wave and were up and riding down the face. He didn't fall off he dismounted because the curl had passed him. Do you even surf?
@@davidgough3512 smh
"Keep it off my wave." -Chris Cornell
Where I'm from that's called "snaking". The guy on the small board tried to "snake" that wave away from the big boarder. So after that everyone will start calling the small boarder a SNAKE UNTIL HE MAKES AMENDS.
There’s no try there’s only do. Long boarder had it kept it and finished it. Other guy. Not so much.
That was Ben Gravy on a borrowed board. Lol.
@@stevebroad8804thought I recognised that terrible style and technique..
@@bennyhandsome7530 Okay Lance.
@@stevebroad8804 😆😆👏
I'm pretty sure thats Ben Gravy on a borrowed board. He was surfing with Zeke I believe. There was no harm by anyone but Adolf Straightoff probably took a couple waves on the head.
No Paddle-Arounds, bro!🤙🏽
People trying that need to get this result every time…😂
I guess I'm just going to surf in Guatemala and have the whole beach to myself so I don't have to worry about this stuff.
First guy up had the wave!:)
That’s Ben Gravy on a 10 foot gun
the longboarder was def in the right but I have a feeling the other guy didn't think that he would catch the wave
He was lucky not to roof the kid or rather the kid was lucky not to get roofed.
The white shark wants you to hold his beer .
I swear the guy with the yellow board looks like Ben Gravy.
I wouldn't get mad. Only way that dude would live to see another day is to ride the wave with me.
Red board's wave. He was deeper first. Other dude was a scavenger.
Not a Ben Gravey fan but it was his wave
"BUT BUT> I HAS PEAK! I HAS PEAK RED BARON MAN!"
Short board can't even see big board lol
San Diego, where the boards are bigger than the waves....
Father❤Son
Just have fun dorks
No one needs to cry about it either
@@bcdodie4648 Don’t try to snake me and I won’t make you cry.
@@bcdodie4648 No one IS crying about it here. This is a discussion son.
I drive everywhere in the middle lane
there are rules at this size
Red board has the right to the wave since he was coming from further back and therefore earlier. However, they both ended up on the wave and even tho red board has the right to the wave, he should exit in order to avoid the other guy having to jump of right where the foam is coming.
You know the rules and so do i.
Red was "deeper" to begin with anyway so his wave
Red and yellow board is the one who has rights to that wave he was outside further, even though other guy was closest to the breaking wave in this case no he can't say it's his.
its like that other dude wasn’t even there but to be fair first one up is the rule taking a inside line with the hot streak was a bit tasteless
Nice dismount...
The guys from Deep outside has a priority
Sorry as I am a noob, but does the red and yellow board guy have right of.way since he is at the top of peak?
with surf etiquettes yes
なんかサーフィンの動画ってつい大きな波の中にサメのような大きな影が映っていないか凝視してしまうのは俺だけか？
BEN doesnt Care why should we. They both rode a wave. We are a community out there, just Surf.
Who fucking cares. Half of surfing is bitching at other surfers
😂
Bunch of COVID surfing kooks
Culture the most over used word today
@calldomdatallc7001 wahhh
@calldomdatallc7001 i dont think i wanna understand the culture. i'll stick to downhill skating
Guy on whiteboard cutting underneath. Total kook move as red board was up first and farther outside
Looked to me like he tried to block. "I'll show Ben Gravy whose boss"...
The guy on the white board snaked him, guy on red board was paddling way before the other dude
If someone paddles around you last second and you don’t drop in on them, then it’s your fault.
Kudos for taking his gun stik to the party. Paid dividends. 🤙🏽
IDK about that the other dude was first to paddle into wave and yet gave the Kook on the red board the wave that was a snake steal
I think the rules should be official written
Definitely red board
The rules are the rules😂
Isn’t that Ben Gravy at Blacks during the January Code Red Swell when he was out there with Zeke?
Evidentemente tiene preferencia el longboard pero odio cuando abusan con sus boards para coger todo el tiempo las olas mas profundo que nadie y ganar siempre la preferencia.
Shortboarder looks as if he’s still learning how to handle the surfboard
Soon someone is going to put a Octagon in the line up to settle CRAP 😂 👍🤙
Ride the whole wave.
Short board has to take off later but was in a bad spot. On the fence here, but who cares. Dude slid on that face and banked a memory
its 6 foot - why all the step ups?
For all those who feel they can rewrite surfing etiquette.
It's first up, then closest to peak... STFU
Image the surfer on the gun had caught the wave even further out, let's say 30m further out. Does he then, in your mind, need to protect the peak and therefore no roundhouse cutbacks.
See, it becomes absurd the moment you magnify the problem.
Realisticly was the red boards wave , but it was obvious the other fellow was oblivious to the fellow was behind him..so l wouldnt call it a snake ...
These things happen red board handled it well.
Big waves? In San Diego? Never heard of such a thing.
red trim had it first!!!!
Everyone in the comments burning the shortboarder after watching a 15 second clip 😂 the longboarder could be on his 40th wave after paddling out past everyone and taking every set wave 🤷♂️ who knows. Who cares.
South of bird rock but north of the tourist pier?
Didn’t look an intentional snake to me. Red boards wave all day and short board did a decent job getting out of the way when he realised how close he’d gotten to him. Could have been a nasty clash
First up and riding or nearest to the break...simple...
Wow❤
Uhhh... anyone who is claiming the gun had priority hasn't surfed in highly contested spots enough. "Inside" = priority in real life.
You are wrong.
In comps and in standard surf etiquette.
here's why...
Image the surfer on the gun had caught the wave even further out, let's say 30m further out. Does he then, in your mind, need to protect the peak and therefore no roundhouse cutbacks.
See, it becomes absurd the moment you magnify the problem.
Yeah nah you’re wrong bud. Whipping it under someone who is already on a wave doesn’t fly. Maybe in a lineup full of kooks, if that’s what you’re used to
Sooo many barns in the comments have no idea. Typical VALs
They aren’t unwritten. Those are DA’ RULEZ
okay but shouldn't he have jumped when they were close? After they are so far apart what does it matter?
La tomo bien era el amo de esa ola.
What unwritten rule the faster better surfer that was his wave. He stood up quicker guy couldn’t catch him something to talk about.
OK I get it, the shortboarder "back paddled" meaning he undercut the other surfer who appears to have the right of way. But technically the guy who's deeper, it's his wave. There is another rule to apply here, the guy who paddles first claims the wave first. However, applying all of these rules, it didn't matter in this case, because there was no conflict because the deeper guy didn't make it anyway. He was too deep. So that fact alone ends this discussion.
Image the surfer on the gun had caught the wave even further out, let's say 30m further out. Does he then, in your mind, need to protect the peak and therefore no roundhouse cutbacks.
See, it becomes absurd the moment you magnify the problem.
Surfers are such yuppie kooks these days, so lame, bodyboarding way cooler now
Its becoming pretty core ngl.. the tables have turned
If you can't surf the same wave you don't deserve to surf at all.
A lot of you in the comments need to hear this....that is not a longboard its a big wave gun.
U know da ruelz
GOON GRAVY
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The other guy was never gonna make the wave anyway . Board to small . Gravy didn’t snake him don’t get it twisted
perrón
Red boards wave
Kinda was outside him to begin with an stood up first anyway other guy didn't see him I reckon
Ya dorks😂