DODGE BUYERS BEWARE OF THIS LAST ATTEMPT TO RIP US OFF
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- In this video I share the new/old way the Dodge dealers and others are trying to make their discounts look better and then hitting us with these ridiculous additional costs.
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The air we breath is 78% nitrogen already
Shit. So that makes it worse! 😂
The problem with your 78% theory is what percentage of the rest has moisture in it! You need to read up on TPMs sensors for your own education
I won't pay for it.
Well, 22% more is a big deal. Ask your wife. 😂😂😂😂
Shhhh,don't give them any ideas! 😂
If you have a COSTCO membership, you can fill/refill your tires with nitrogen for FREE!
My costco can't refill or to off tires with nitrogen. Only when mounting.
Big red flags! Walk away from any dealer who tries to sell you these
Thanks - Spot on. Local Berkshire Hathaway owned dealership - “All our cars get LoJack and window tint” - Me, “ I don’t want those items” - dealership “It’s policy, we have no choice” - Me, “Well, I do, good by” - Keep up the good work & Happy motoring 🇺🇸🤠
When I factory ordered my 2019 Scat-Pack and it arrived at my local dealership, I told them NOT to wash it. To this day, I still don't have any swirl marks at all, and it's been over 4.5 years and counting. All dealership lackeys use brushes to wash the vehicles.. DON'T DO IT!
I watch a channel from time to time where the guy does paint correction and ceramic coating/detailing of high end cars. He takes detailed and high res videos of before and after. Ford seems to be the worse but every single car he gets ALL have paint issues from the factory From paint runs to bubbling and peeling Cars that have literally no miles on them. The last one I watched was a 2023 challenger black ghost. Every panel had some kind of paint issue. There is even evidence of light wet sanding on this car and multiple others To the naked eye these cars are perfect but soon as he hits these cars with special led lights and at the right angles it’s amazing what he finds.
The best car alarm in the world is a toggle switch on the ignition system hidden in the car somewhere. And it's cheap.
When i bought my Scat Pack the dealership had this as a 300 coat add on (plus another 2k in useless add ons). When they advertised the car at 45 when i got there they told me it was 55 because of the add ons. After negotiations they brought up add ons for a third time . I told them unless they stop bringing that up in walking out the door. Just like that they were no longer talking about it and i got it at 45. But they were pissed when i told them i was paying cash (gee wonder why) 😅
The best way i ever found not to get screwed by a new car dealership is not to buy it to start with.
Also the dealers that mark-up the Nitro for the tires likely do not even add it, they just put on the green valve stem caps.
Totally! How the h*ll would you know?
@@user-ex9zm7bg3x As an example, my Toyota dealership charged me premium prices for a tire rotation, to keep them honest I marked each tire LF LR RF RR with a red marker on the black tires before I left the house, after the supposed tire rotation I checked them again and they were at the exact position as when they left the house. I worked at a dealership for many years and know the crap they pull, that's how I know. I also know of dealers that did exactly what I mentioned, they just put the green caps on without adding any nitrogen, how can you prove otherwise unless you saw them put it in live. I witnessed a dealership adding Castro synthetic "blend" middle grade oil even though the customer paid for premium full synthetic Mobil 1. I can go on and on if there's any doubt in what I said.
I had the same experience at Toyota of Las Vegas. I flew in to do paperwork and drive the car back to LA. When I got there, they had this fancy computer screen desk to flip through paperwork fast. Just sign the screen with you finger! We get to the final breakdown, there was a 2K alarm for three year extra protection. After acting like that was going to kill the deal and walked out, he acted like he went to his manager and then come back and gave me the three years for free. All I wanted was the last year Toyota 4Runner with the V6 and 5 speed Tran for an around town car. But I had to walk out of the dealership in order to get that already factory option sold as an upscale off the deal.
I went to a Dodge dealership this weekend and drove a brand new 2023 Challenger Scat wide body with lot rot. Pealing paint,sandpaper finish & flat spotted tires that vibrated the car so bad that my wife even noticed on the test drive Then the A$$igo Advantage for $3000 which included $200 door edge gaurds,nitro tires for $300, ceramic coating with $5 coating and rain protection applied when I get the car serviced there. They had the card laminated and showed me and I laughed and he didn’t finish the steal. I’m going shopping again and giving them 30 minutes like you do.
You should just save your money. It’s been sitting on a lot less than a year and has those problems? We found a 35 year old Jeep in dirty garage with 350 miles on it a few years ago and it still had decent paint after we cleaned it and tires held air. It was parked there for 34 years. Doesn’t that kind of speak to you a little ?
@@rodleypumpkins4174 I bought a 2022 Challenger Redeye with under 5000 miles with tint & ceramic coated.
This is society in a nut shell, we are all trying to get over on each other in some form or fashion.
They are all advertising 10k off of sticker so of course the add ons for 3 or 4 k are absolutely mandatory and there’s extra fees they’re putting in to recoup as well. These Dodge dealers are absolutely shameless.
Buy tires from Costco and they nitrogen fill all the tires they do as part of the service.
Hello Brad: Thank you for this important scam video. Sir I have personally seen a nitrogen add on for a new vehicle here in NJ for $$ 899.00 + tax. Yes sir this is real & no BS. God Bless & thanks again, TMP from N.J.
I think the info you are getting out is priceless. I hope people learn to stop feeding these dealerships. Its the only way this crap is gonna stop.
I bet they’re not actually filling the tires with nitrogen but still charging for it.
I love the advantage addon dealer turned me away from buying a unit because I "had" to buy 2477.00 worth of useless addons!
Keep putting these great videos out most people don't know what's going on with the stuff I mean I'm aware of it as I told you Brad I've been in the auto industry for over 40 years and that's a pretty big scam then what I used to own my rim shops in here in Las Vegas I own too I bought most of my tires from them or from one of my best buddies at Nevada tire City
I had a bad experience with Big O Tires! Guy didn't tighten my lug nuts on my two rear tires! Thank God! I didn't have an accident! I haven't been back to give them any more of my business!
Drugs do the darndest things.
Years ago I saw someone with "Big O" house brand tires. The tread just came right off the tire and suddenly the left rear tire was a steel belt. Thankfully he was near his house at the time. It was an old Saturn in the Louisville KY area.
A friend of mine bought a Dodge Ram a few years ago and I am stunned at all of the things that have gone wrong with it. It has had so many overnight stays at the various repair shops it has been in, that my friend is surprised he has not had to pay rent! Right now it has rust issues and paint chipping off around the doors. I drove it the other day, and I spent ten minutes at a drive-thru to get a cheeseburger, and the temperature gauge was at the 75% mark. There is no way that engine should have been that hot. You should be able to sit parked for an hour with the engine running and that temperature gauge should not go past the 50% mark. I would not have a Dodge Ram if you gave me one!
Most cars I have bought have come with add one. I have never paid for any of it. Even when they say it's already on the car. What a scam!
Thank you, my truck needs all the protection from my clumsy butt.😂😂 Awesome video
My truck has black rims. I didn't like the chrome wheel lugs nuts. Went to tire place and bought black lug nut for 30-ish bucks. They were all locking wheel locks nuts with socket to remove them was included. If you must have wheel locks research what's out there.
Dont ever stop the in car videos bro, the acousics are great
Totally agree that the add-on fees have gotten out of hand. All I want to do is just buy the car, nothing else. Wheel locks do not work. Door edges look like crap, tinting and ceramic can be done elsewhere!
You can get a roll of door edge gaurds 15ft in different colors at auto zone fir $15 bucks!
Who opens the door on an expensive vehicle and needs edge guards. I’ve had a bunch of nice vehicles and some not so nice and I’m careful not to hit anything when I open the door
They tried that with my wife's 2020 Jeep when we purchased it new. I told them to remove that crap and take it off, or we go else to purchase it. Not only did they take off all the bs fees, but they did not remove those items either. Just saying
Preach! This is exactly why dodge didn't sell me a challenger last year. I tried and they wouldn't budge on this stuff. I bought a used car for 1/2 the price, twice as happy. They tried to force me to buy the lug nuts for a stupid price when they were already even included with one of the packages from the manufacture. The salesman couldn't explain if I was going to have two locking lug nuts on each tire. They were holding on all the same crap, nitrogen, security system, window tint, interior and exterior protection...blah blah blah
As a sales rep for a top ten dealership in the nation I love when people pay full price for a car! Lol
It’s a law coming for dealerships that they can’t do the bait and switch. What they price online is what they have to sell it for. If they switch the price on u when u come in. U can report them and i think they get a nice fine.
Nitrogen was first used on Air Force and Navy jets. Then benefit is that there isn’t as much pressure change with temperature. Nitrogen was then used in race cars.
Thank you sir for the tips. I like all that good info. Appreciate you sir.
I recently visited Big O Tires to purchase and have four new tires, totaling $1,200, for my Corvette, complementing a set of wheels I bought for $1,000. Unfortunately, my experience did not meet expectations. Upon arrival to pick up my wheels, I discovered that all four tires were incorrectly mounted for the passenger side only. This oversight required additional wait time to rectify the issue, during which the staff, particularly the attendant assisting me, seemed unhurried to resolve the problem.
Moreover, after the tires were finally mounted correctly and re-balanced, I noticed that residues from the wheel weights were left on two of my brand new wheels, which was quite disappointing. Overall, the service was lackluster, and the lack of attention to detail was frustrating. I hope Big O Tires can improve their service for future customers.
I had to go back to Big O tires 3 times here in Prescott AZ first time when I drove the car home a short distance and parked it the next morning all 4 tires were flat they never tightened the valve stems, drove home again and noticed they took my chrome valve stem caps and replaced them with the black plastic ones, then I finally got to drive the car on the highway and the car and steering wheel shook and vibrated so bad I thought it was going to damage my car, brought it back and they said some of the weights fell off and they balanced the tires again, never will I go there again.
Next time a dealer tries to rip me off I’ll tell them i charge $200 an hour to negotiate the price.
The aluminum rims on most vehicles let out air or nitrogen regardless so nitrogen filled tires are actually a hassle because you have to find a facility that has nitrogen to refill and that is more time consuming than just getting air anywhere
Thanks Bro. And big facts I had no idea they were scamming so hard on nitrogen lol. 😂
When I bought my '22 Charger, the dealer tried to sell me undercoating for $800 -- the same undercoating I can get for $160 at a national chain store 5 minutes down the road. Can't blame 'em for trying I suppose.
Nitrogen is used in some race cars as it is more stable during temp changes. Race car tires get very hot, changing air pressure which can be critical in race applications. Nitrogen filled tires are of no real value on street cars.
Big O is the WORST. At least here in AZ. Every branch is filled with the worst workers all pushing crap on you to fill out their spiffs quotas. Out here Discount Tires and Brakes Plus are the best out here for tires and service.
Big o tires is a great company believe it or not Brad I used to know the original two owners when I was a little kid they sell me tires that cost just because they like they like me when I was 16 years old Great company and the founders both of the gentleman are phenomenal guys
$395 for wheel locks...they come as standard equipment on these cars and are on some window stickers at $75 and some included as standard equipment. They are usually in your trunk with your floor mats and front license plate bracket. You should not have to pay to have standard equipment installed if they are not already on the wheels. I didn't. Dealers are double dipping. Look at your window stickers
Most dealerships probably use the Chemical Guys stuff from Walmart for their “ceramic coatings”.
Jim Hundson Dealerships, JT Britt Dealerships,and Rick Hendricks Dealerships In GA and SC charge for that B.S. Great Video
I turned down the add ons that came to a $100+ a month. After several 'No's", he offered them for $8.
Great info.
My 22 Shaker WB came with locking lug nuts included in the Driver Convenience Group $1390
There is a device to test nitrogen percentage it costs about $500 bucks. Never been at a shop that owns one. The nitrogen generators at most shops are not maintained, so they become just an air compressor. Ideal Gas Law explains how the nitrogen BS is just that BS. They use nitrogen in racing tires mainly because its easier to have a high pressure nitrogen tank in the pit than an air compressor running on gas or electricity.
Informative video Brad, thanks for the 411. These scams aren't new but they have gone by different names through the decades. Years ago I remember GM dealerships using the "Mop & Glow" scam which was a dealer exclusive exterior paint sealant and Interior protection package.
Not sure why everyone is all in for Nitrogen filled tires. I'm guessing things are different out in So Cal but here in Houston, TX the only place I've found pushing this is Costco, no surprise there. But here's the thing they're not telling you, you can't mix the two. Also Costco is the only business I've found peddling Nitrogen, you can't find it anywhere else in this area. Almost all of your typical gas stations don't carry it. We don't have Big O tires out here but the other tire chains namely Discount Tires & NTB don't carry it either. So if you have a leak of a flat in and around the Houston area you will be forced back into filling your impaired tire with regular old Oxygen. IMHO, it's kind of a worthless exercise in futility at least around here.
See, this would not happen at Motivator's Dodge............
Hey Brad, what do you think of Hagerty insurance? You tell them what you value your car at and that determines your payment.
The biggest scam no one mentions is Doc fees. Usually 300.00 a car to process a title and a temp tag!
In Virginia that shit is like $900 and another reason I walked out when I got screwed on the price of my factory ordered Charger Redeye-Jailbreak (they also wanted me to pay $40k Markup 😂)
Wow! Insane
I almost always park in the lower 40 and I STILL get damage to my Challenger. Someone told me people do these things deliberately.
I'm going to have to try this with the ad ons. I'll hit one of the other dealers today
The only time nitrogen is beneficial for tires would be racing tires, the nitrogen reduces rising tire pressures as the tire temp increases which allows the cars setup to remain more consistent over the duration of the race.
How bout getting your own financing prior to going to the dealer, they hate that.
Manuel Challenger amazing! that car is a keeper!
I worked at a Chrysler dealership for 8 years, I could likely share a dew things I learned at the stealership
This past November, I picked up a new Jeep Wrangler Willys--they got me for $299 for window etching!
I paid $200 for window etching on my 2001 Saturn, so etching has not gone up much. At least I got the "Saturn One Price". Still driving it today.
@@williamjones7821 It's nice to know that etching hasn't suffered from Brandon-nomics like the rest of things in the world.
I hate wheel locks. I had ttem preinstalled on my F150, i told them to pull that shit back in the garage and take them off.
Worried about taking the wheel off in the evebt of a flat.
I don't care so much about the Charger 's wheel locks as it has no spare.
My Gap Insurance on the Charger is like $8 a month I think. Might be less. I'll probably keep it until year 3 of the loan, check the value against what I owe and see what kind of insurance needs I have.
Im really starting to feel like zi got taken to the clesners for buying the extended warranty lol. Not becsuse I mind paying for it, but because they're might not be Dodge dealers left to do warranty repairs after you, Butter and TK get done with these guys. 😅
100% baby steps😂😂😂😂thanks.
I use to know at a toyota dealership all the sales managers and sales personnel. They use to laugh at all the customers who use to pay for these ridiculous add on's and use to say he or she bought the (UTA) package after hearing this for a while I asked what is a UTA package and they laughed and stated (Up The Ass) package. These are the scum you deal with.
The logic is that air can pass through the rubber as it is porous. But there is a hitch there. Nitrogen is a singular atom or can combine into molecules, also there are impurities as well, but air, is like 78.1% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen plus other elements as well, technically the air we breathe is denser than the nitrogen alone
Nitrogen is said to be more stable, so when it warms up it doesn’t change pressure like heated air would. So they use it so that they can claim fuel efficiency numbers. I don’t believe it, but that’s what they say.
My first big engine challenger came to us with 12 miles and the speedometer history said the highest speed it reached was 190 mph. The fuckers moving the car from the train or onto the train fucking ate up the rear wheels and set a massive top speed. I was so pissed off!
The nitrogen doesn’t expand or compress when cold like air does. The idea is you maintain a more consistent air pressure across the seasons. Not having to add air in winter and not having to let air out in the summer. Asphalt race cars have been using nitrogen to fill tires for decades for this very reason, only theirs is predominantly due to overheating. It’s a good idea, they just way overcharge for it.
What about the clear bras?
nitrogen and blinker fluid
Nitrogen is used especially in cold weather states because it doesn't compress in the extreme cold and lessen the tire pressure.
Well somehow I and millions of others survived without it so I still think it’s 100% BS
@@ocmotivatorRacecars, road course and circle track, MotoGP use it as well Have for decades. If you filled one side with air and the other side with nitrogen you’d notice the difference immediately. They measure the OD on their tires as it’s part of the setup, any change is absolutely noted. Changing Tire OD during a race is terrible as it changes the handling of the car. It’s not BS, haven’t you ever had to let air out in the summer and add it in the winter? The thought process is with nitrogen you won’t have to. As well as in the desert during summer months tires can get so hot and the air expansion and they blow out. Nitrogen is absolutely better, just not a necessity and is more or less a connivence thing.
The aluminum rims on most vehicles let out air regardless so nitrogen filled tires are actually a hassle because you have to find a facility that has nitrogen to refill and that is more time consuming than just getting air anywhere so is nitrogen better I 100% believe not
As for anti-theft protection, how about The Club? Will that fit on a Mopar steering wheel?
It will.
get the barton shifter, the difference is HUGE.
How about a Hurst shifter?
Wheel locks are $15 wholesale to a tire dealer, $25 retail, lol !!!
Literally 3000000% markup
Recent interaction with an Audi dealer about an RS3.....
Him: The addons are already on the car.
Me: Ok I do not want them so take care....
Him: So the only thing stopping you from buying is the addons? (totaling 3k in markups).
Me: Yes
About 10 mins later....
Ok my Manager agreed to MSRP and removing the addons...
Now I am still on the fence on buying the car because the insurance on the car is CRAZY but the notion that they can't scrap the addons is BOGUS!
Yep! Well played! 👍
BRUH !! Nobody wants an over priced, overweight car with tech from 2006. They will literally being trying to sell these in 2025
Nitrogen filled tires is only good if you’re running 24 hours at La Mans
regular air is 70-80% nitrogen already......you dont need nitogen filled for street vehicles period
I got my new CHALLENGER SRT HELLCAT JAILBREAK on 4/27/24 and told them I was not going to pay for any of the extra add-on's and I wanted the car $1K under the online price even thou am not military or first responder they told me no and I walk out then they call me back and gave me what I wanted $68K and $75K OTD on a { $81,959 sticker }
Add $499 catalytic converters eitching
Master Tech vehicle protection etching and Defender vehicle protection is more BS add ons.
So, history of Nitrogen in tires comes from Aviation. It is done in aircraft tires to prevent feeding fires during brake fire events because nitrogen is an inert gas, aka does not add fuel to the fire. Like you said some genius decided that car tires needed this protection too. Car brakes don’t really catch on fire, and if they do you don’t have to evacuate 400 people out of your car. I will die on this hill, there is no reason to put nitrogen in car tires.
Nascar uses nitrogen in their tires because it doesn't expand and contract like plain old air.
Tie-in selling is illegal. The FTC is cracking down on that stuff.
Better yet, I want to see who and how this crap is put on the car. Then there's the stuff that they put on the interior - I've seen it where it looks like a chimp did the application.
Tell them to let you run a test to see if they really put Nitrogen in the tires
Oxygen molecules leak faster from your tires than nitrogen. Our air is made up of oxygen and nitrogen. As you keep up with your air pressure, over time as oxygen escapes from your tires and you air them up, you wind up with almost all nitrogen in your tires. Nitrogen tire service at the dealership is a scam.
I'd I see these charges on a sticker I'm walking out
I don't think Nitrogen - filled tires are worth the cost unless u like being taken advantage of. There is only a slight improvement with using it which is not very useful for a daily driven vehicle. Regular air is 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen and small amounts of other gases like carbon dioxide, neon, helium, methane, krypton, and hydrogen. Do ur research. Why would u ever pay for nitrogen when it's free? If u're not using a vehicle to push the absolute technology and performance of that vehicle on a race track (F1, NHRA) there is no significant incentive to be taken advantage of with this scam.
Why would you even consider added on charges? I would not, I would not buy there.
Not sure why you are saying they are not, or can not, do dealer mark ups anymore, there is lots of dealerships still doing mark ups, and not just Dodge, other brands also.
Stealerships are wolf dens.
Nitrogen was to keep tire pressure consistent, and prevent moisture in tires
It is nice, but should be almost free.
Somehow I’ve survived my entire adult life without nitrogen in my tires and never missed it. Now suddenly it’s a “thing” worth $$$. 😂
Free at Costco
What the hell is: ‘Finishing Touch for $1295?!?
Handing the customer his keys
That sounds like a service a high-class courtesan would offer.
Free is what I pay.
Bad advice. I tell them. I'm not paying for them. I'm just interested in the car as it came from the factory. On those door edge stickers, they wanted 199, i told the guy, I'd give him 20 bucks. They can eat it or lose the sale. I tell them, remove the alarm, I'm fine with that. Just don't play their games. Be Real.
WTH 😜
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Let's see how smart you are. Why do you think Nascar runs Nitrogen in there tires. Even sprint cars run it 90% of your road racing cars run it. Let's see if you I know why??
I do know why it makes the tires run cooler an last longer. Now if you say I am stupid , Go to any Nascar owner Sprint car owner an ask them why they run it. Before you talk an say thing you have know idea about you need to know the truth about it. The dealer is scaming people on the price that is true. Buy why they put it in the tire you have know idea why. And you saying your car tires don't lose air you are full of it. All tires do. The heat from the roads make the air in the tire lose air. Nitrogen runs 20% cooler you don't lose air as fast tire will last longer. I hope 90% of your subscribers don't believe everything you say an believe you. They better have some very tall rubber boots on because your $hit gets very deep.
That's odd. The heat from the road warms up my tires, and the air pressure increases, it doesn't decrease. You sure you know what you're talking about?
Yes the air pressure increases an nitrogen in the tires will keep the air from increasing. Yes I do know what I am talking about. I raced for 7 years pro mods .I have a brother that raced unlimited late models. I am now 60 years old been around racing my whole life. I don't have to prove anything to anyone.
@@esteban1487Tires heating up in race cars increases the OD (Outer Diameter) of the tire thus changing the handling of the car. They literally measure the OD of every tire and selectively pick and choose what tire goes where based on OD, typically no 4 tires are the same OD.That changing due to heat is bad. Thus Nitrogen, stays far more consistent, it doesn’t expand like air does or compress with cold. So yeah it’s a thing…. Is it necessary, no. Does it keep a more consistent tire pressure? Absolutely. Do dealers need to grape people like they do for it? Absolutely not.
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