My theory is the both endings are canon but we see them in the wrong order and from the wrong perspective. Yozora is a video game character and has video game aesthetic throughout his fight. In a video game when you lose the boss battle you get sent back before the fight and any cutscenes the player saw before the boss fight start, didn't really happen to the character. So my theory is that Yozora goes to sleep fights loses then the "good" ending plays (for Sora). Then like the play who fights Yozora over and over again. Yozora is fighting Sora, till he wins causing the "bad" ending plays (for Sora)
I think yozora is the avatar noctis uses when he sleeps and traverses the "spirit world." Which in this case is the many worlds of KH. and noctis' real world is the "unreality" to the KH characters. Sora is dead to noctis, but noctis is dead to Sora.
I've heard a lot of theories about Yozora but this one, this one is very sound and grounded. It makes a lot of sense to have Brain be the one using Yozora as a vessel to meet Sora and make sure he doesn't come into contact with the MoM, at least in a state where MoM could take the X-blade. I still want to see Yozora as his own character and his universe expanded upon and see Verum Rex as the FF Versus XIII we never got which still seems possible even with this theory but nothing is confirmed or denied yet so we'll have to wait and see.
@@AMAZIAH I mean, at this point anything is possible, basically if that happened we'd just be getting a Nomura-verse series which if it works out could be the most epic thing to exist.
I am just starting the video now, but I have been viewing Unreality in terms similar to what MoM said, "A world even I couldn't conceive of." If those words were actually Nomura/the development teams words, Unreality would be the remnants of games/stories left forever untold. They are less "real" than Data, as they are too incomplete to have become Data. In this line of thinking canceled games like FF13-versus or Chrono Break (or whatever the third chrono trigger game would have been called) being reprised would fit nicely, as would the "purified" Shinjuku that could not be saved in TWEWY.
ah≈≈~ code lyoko reference! That is one of the better ways to describe the xehanort-style body snatching as well as the khux dandelions surviving in data-copies of their bodies
I heard Noctis is actually the Master of Masters, which as crazy as that sounds…which it is… it’s not completely unsound. Besides Ray Chase voicing him in English, he himself does not actually know his “real” name, only the name presented to him via the script. He’s admitted that it’s not a name he’s seen, but he’s not sure if it will be changed. Type:0 has A LOT of influence on Daybreak Town, and it will play a key part in KH4, so “Noctis” being in “Type:0” isn’t that far off.
I never responded to this. Cause I couldn't understand the context. But I think I understand it now. Is the idea that. Because they both have the same voice actor and Ray chase. Saying that perhaps the Master's name was a fill-in. This could truly be an older Noctis? As far as I'm concerned. I don't think it's probable, but it is possible. The whole existence of Verum Rex is do to the fact Nomura. Cannot do anything with VS13 or 15 possibly anymore. He's even contractually bound from talking about vs13. So how could he flat out use Noctis himself? However, I remember back 09 when I got into KH. Nomura kept reiterating KH3 cannot happen without the release of vs13. I think Noctis and Sora were going to be connected somehow. Until vs13 was taken from. Like these 2 Prince's possibly would've wound up in the others world. Instead of dying Noctis was going to come to the world of KH. With Sora himself winding up in FFvs13 world. Like a Fairy Oddparents/Jimmy Neutron style cross over. Thus after that wasn't possible anymore. It became Verum Rex.
@@AMAZIAH Oh I should’ve worded it better. Ray Chase said in a Tweet that his script actually says the Master’s “real name,” but it wasn’t anything familiar to the series, and it could be changed later on. The theory is that the name was “Superbia,” which is Latin for Pride/ Arrogance. The Lucii/Lucis name is based off of Lucifer/Lux/ The Lightbringer. Lucifer’s downfall was his Arrogance; his Superbia. The MoM’s arrogance is Luxu, since Luxu inevitably betrays the Master as it was already written in the Book of Prophecies. The theory also could suggest that it was Noctis’ arrogance that led to his downfall, which depending on the ending of either XV or VXIII, he is destined to always lose. In fact, the ending of the first Versus XIII trailer is confirmed that Noctis dies on his throne. He also looks like he’s sleeping, so maybe that’s why Yozora was in the Final World(?) I agree that Versus XIII was meant to be in Kingdom Hearts at some point. Sora has his own Warp Strike and Armiger just like Noctis. As for Nomura, he is no longer contractually bound from mentioning Versus. It was kinda confirmed during a Dissidia livestream. While he was drawing Noctis, the person next to him mentioned that Noctis originally was from VXIII. Nomura asked if they were allowed to talk about it, to which the other person replied “it’s probably fine.” Funny story, Dissidia NT has the Versus XIII outfit under the name: Otherworldly Outfit, which would be true since the Dawn of the Future book states it’s in another reality. I do find it strange that they were advertising Dissidia NT while all this was going on. Perhaps it was was a nice little nod, but you can’t tell with Nomura. Ultimately, I think Verum Rex and Versus XIII will exist together. There was unfortunately a slight deviation from the story’s path, but Verum Rex will eventually branch off onto the intended path. The Crystal Regalia, the Somnus motif, the car scene, Yozora’s name; it’s all too specific to be a recreation of an older idea. This was all planned I feel, maybe since the very beginning of KH3’s development in the event that a cancellation would happen.
@Daniel Of Tamriel Interesting. Some thought I have pertaining to some of this. Are in my next video so I can't speak on them here. But definitely everything about Noctis seemed to parallel Sora back in those days. I wonder what Kingdom Hearts 3 would've been in a world where Vs13 happened.
@@danieloftamriel damn, i never thought of the crossover that intricately! Noctis sleeping on the throne and relating to yozora is interesting. Maybe "noctis" chooses to play the role of yozora to hide his self from the attack that is represented in the FFV13 trailer. Idk, but thanks for the insight my friend. 👍
@@smitty02345 Looking back on your comment, it’s actually even more plausible that Noctis can use Yozora as an avatar of sorts via dreaming. In KH3 Re:Mind, there are two endings: One where Sora loses, and Yozora “saves” him by crystallizing him (a nod to Crystal Stasis from Final Fantasy 13, one of three games in the original Fabula Nova Crystallis), And one where Yozora loses, and Sora sends Yozora back to wherever he was originally from. We find out later through the manga and another source I can’t quite remember, that both endings were actually canon, but we didn’t know how…until this new theory popped up. The boss fight was all a dream, hence Sora waking up in the secret ending (or in the KH4 trailer not entirely sure yet), and Yozora waking up in the Regalia. It is possible for people to dream about the same thing, but their interpretation will be different. Dreaming is a big plot point in KH3 and especially in DDD. I think Yozora also has the power to delve into his own dreams, which explains how he’s so powerful despite being a dream. That Verus XIII cutscene of Noctis sleeping the chair could potentially be repurposed to fit into KH4’s narrative, especially since Noctis himself had the ability to see the light of expiring souls in and out of dreams. For all we know, Noctis could have been dreaming about Noctis from XV while VXIII was going on, and that fits the story of Dawn Of The Future, and how Noctis saw a vision of himself within the Crystal fighting all Magitek Troopers at Insomnia. I’m very interested to see where the series going with this. It’s all so exciting! KH4 was one huge reference to the E3 2013 trailer of Versus XIII (renamed to XV). They even had Somnus and the text from the XV trailers playing! Not to mention the whole “Fabula Books” thing hidden in the background haha.
@@AMAZIAH I was so baked when I made that comment lol. On a real note keep up the good work G love your content my favorite kingdom hearts stuff comes from your channel! Every video peaks my interest!
Verum Rex will be made once Kingdom Hearts 4 is created! Nomura said in an interview that he was conflicted and he didn’t know what game to create after Kingdom Hearts 3 so he ultimately chose to make Kingdom Hearts 4 first since fans were worried about Sora! So we are getting a Verum Rex game in the future!
I love this video I’ve been thinking bout this for months thinking I could be wrong like there’s no way but every leader from UNION is in KH3 in some way shape or form keep up the good work and I’ve seen code lyoko 👍🏾
A man of culture 👏 I think Code Lyoko's whole thing is happening here. A body morph of Noctis doesn't fit the progression thus far. Melody of Memory has already told us so much with like an hour of content. People just gloss over the words for what little they grasp. Like Fairy, Godmother literally exposes so much about unreality by simply saying she doesn't know much at all. Yen Sid is sending Mickey to Scala Ad Caelum for research of unreality. Is beyond the scope of a body morph. And since a literal heart had to be used for travel to Quadratum, Via, the power of awakening as Young Xehanort said it's meant to work. This is what Nomura established the other means of travel via the Arks for. People from our side do have a means to unreality. And who else seemed hefty knowledgeable about the Master's tech? Brain... Yozora has a lot of hard counters to the Master of Masters. Ava, recruited specifically Brain, to her cause. Look who just so happened to be born again in an unspecified era. With a missing Ava and a boy in a cut-off world of imagination, Yozora is Brain. The dude even dressed like a KH3 character 1000 years ago. The smug attitude fits the one he had against darkness. Yozora in the trailer doesn't have teleportation or dimension hopping. Fake Yozora is like a phantom of Xigbar if he had a sword. Yozora's lasers give off that spacial ripple like Xigbars bullets. Of course, he isn't as refined as Luxu. Who can literally walk on and exist on 2 different planes of reality at once? But it's like Yozora is literally using the power of an inhabitor. This is self evident when he uses the power of awakening on Sora.
Yeah pretty much. This is vs 13 in a different context. But I don't think it's in KH so Nomura can tell that story. Cause he said that wasn't the case.
I think. Yozora could have knew about Sora through a childrens book. "Winnie the pooh" meanwhile Sora learns about Yozora through a videogame. "Verum Rex"
I kind of like your theory about people from RoL ending up in Unreality and taking over the people there. However I would in no way say that it is the most likely theory, and really hope that if you end up being wrong that you are not disappointed to the point that you dislike the game that proves you wrong. That's part of the reason I try to keep at lest two theories possible in my head when talking about any topic in KH. Still your theory about people for the past ending up in Unreality taking over some of the people there and those character maybe ending up back in Reality once this is all finished does make a lot of sense to me. I am not sure that I agree with Brain and Strelitzia being Yozora and Nameless Star but I would be a bit hard to convince of any details like that. I do question, if Yozora is someone from Reality then was his name always Yozora? Because he seems to think of himself as Yozora, did he forget his real name? No he seems very sure that his looks should give him another name. Which means his real name has to be Yozora and he has another name that people call him when he looks like he does. Which brings a lot of confusion to the video game Rex plays, as he knows the name Yozora. There is also the fact that Data worlds are part of Reality. We have traveled to them several times in KH. What would be the difference between a video game world(unreality) and a normal Data world which you can go to simply by opening the lock to the computer it's on. It has to be something a bit more then just a data world for it to be so hard to get to. So yeah I really like your theory. But I see some really big holes and either I missed how you filled them in or I just disagree with you about. I am not sure which. If Unreality is a trap for MoM do you think it will work or is everyone that lives through trying to spring this trap going to end up in Reality after it fails?
Let me make this bit clear. I would never be upset, if I'm wrong. But you seem to still be holding onto the same thoughts my contemporaries have. Which is fine. I can't prove my own theories 3 ways to Sunday. But to me. It doesn't sound logical that Yozora is anyone else. The star doesn't even tell us that this is a possibility. The first Verum Rex cutscene is a trailer for the game. It's playing on TV in Xehanort's fake Toy Box. So this 1 point already starts with a big hole. Why would he look like someone else. But be on the boxart, trailers, and is known by the girl as Yozora. Who Rex and the other toys confirm is the guy on the box-art for as far as Rex and Ham made it(Bahamut boss fight). Yozora is the guy we see. He is not Noctis, in any way but being a fill in. Next. (2)The star said that Yozora would be remissed if he knew of her absence. So with what we know from (1: Yozora is who we see.) Why does he not care about Sora mentioning a girl? Because this is someone else using his form. (3) Kairi reaching destiny island, was a 20 year plot-thread. That has only been revealed now. For Xehanort to say while prepping her for her mission. She might wind up in unreality. Awareness, he has. Yet, Ansem The Wise and even a mythical entity like Fairy Godmother doesn't. Yen Sid then sends Mickey on a mission to visit Scala Ad Caelum to research the Union leaders. As they were said to be sent to a world, before the end of their world, and been lost ever since. This is 1 to 1 with Sigurd's details about Brain's friends not appearing in the same time as him to there knowledge. So Xehanort clearly knows about Unreality from Scala Ad Caelum. This is confirmed by Yen Sid, not a theory. So if they know about unreality, why wouldn't they be sending people there? How do you think Xehanort got Luxord? Cause they clearly play some role in the creation of Verum Rex.
@@AMAZIAH I am glad that you will not be mad if you are wrong. Sometimes in your videos you make a statement like that makes you sound very sure of yourself which I admit made me a bit worried. I agree Yozora is not Noctis. I have always believed it when he said that Verum Rex and Versus 13 where not the same thing. I have written stories before and know that if there was story idea that you couldn't use before they stay in your brain until you can use it. And when you can use the idea then it is often very different then what the original plan was. 2 I am not really surprised that Yozora doesn't react about the girl. Nameless star basically said that his heart was replaced with another. Anytime two heart try to battle each other for a body there has been both a physical change to the body, and a problem with memory. Nameless Star seems very clear that he either hasn't noticed her absence yet or he has outright forgotten her. There are past times something like what is being hinted at have happen and Yozora not really remembering her right seems very likely given the clues we do have. I really think that the spirit who is talking is Yozora. Because it really seems like he is surprised that Sora connects his looks with his name. It is one of the only moments of surprise Yozora shows. Granted with two hearts clashing and likely memory problems it could be that even the name is misty. But we know that someone named Yozora who is friends with Nameless Star has to exist. We might just need to agree to disagree on this point. Or agree to agree but misspeak to the point we can't tell that we are agreeing. I have done that several times. Yes Xehanort learned about Unreality in Scala. And there also seems to be a story about past masters disappearing to Unreality. That said we have no idea which missing masters the story is talking about. It might be talking about the foretellers, or maybe Ephemer and his students go missing. Or maybe it's the several cities worth of wielders that disappeared a little bit after Xehanort's and Eraqus' birth. Likely not the last one given that the boys talk about the Lost Masters like it happened a long time ago. We have run into the problem that we don't know enough to tell prove or disprove any theory. As for Luxord if he is indeed Yozora's driver. Which I question mostly because one line and the back of a person's head which doesn't even have the right hair color really isn't enough to make me sure about it. However I am willing to say that he is the same character for a moment. I honestly don't think Xehanort got Luxord. It seems a lot more likely that Luxord came of his own accord and with his own plan. Luxord seems like to much of a foil for Luxu for that not to be the case. It's possible that Xehanort came to Unreality at some point but it is also possible that he just heard stories. With DR so close with many possible answers I find myself a little unwilling to say which of the many theories(about Xehanort's past) I have heard and talked about seem more likely to me. Maybe after we get more information or a hear a theory that makes something click I will be more deceive about things.
@Hillary Slack He isn't connecting looks to a name. That is the body of Yozora. If someone else is in controlling Yozora. As the star says. The not remembering her part is that he is not in control of the vessel. But then why does fairy godmother say the star for some reason wound up in their final world. The heart is a real heart, that's why. Remember how Kairi preserved Sora by not letting him go? Lauriam, has this same plot thread with Strelitzia. Lauriam: "Player, may I ask you a favor? Please keep my sister in your heart." Xehanort has these memories and still feels their plight. Deep within the recesses of his heart. The part of him that was player character. She is all but confirmed Strelitzia. The memory loss of Strelitzia, is why she thinks she's from Verum Rex. Luxu did put her in a Ark. So that's self evident. These lines of thinking are massive links. Yozora is a video game character. When his inhabitor is done with him. He will return to the story of the game. Re:Coded taught this to us. Without the heart of (unknown) he would be chasing the girl around in his own story. And would've never met Sora.
@@AMAZIAH He outright says "How do you recognize me as Yozora?" Which means that those looks are not what Yozora should look like. Though I will admit he never outright says that he is Yozora he kind of dances around saying it outright. But it is very much implied that his name is Yozora. And that how he looks isn't how Yozora looks. I am almost sure that Yozora isn't meant to look like how we see him.(Well as sure as anything we can know about Unreality and Yozora) Which means the box is either lying to us, or more likely Yozora in Rex's game changes how he looks at the beginning of the game. Though this also means that Yozora can't know about the video game because otherwise he would know how someone not of Unreality would know to connect his looks to the name of Yozora. I don't think think Strelitzia is the True Dandelion or that Luxu is the one walking Data(?) Strelitzia around. The coat details are way to different, and there is nothing to say that Luxu ever went into the data Daybreak Town and a lot pointing to him never going there. It's not a for sure thing, but Data Strelitzia being the True Dandelion feels like a really big red herring and until proven otherwise I am unable to believe it. There is just way to much pointing to Strelitzia and the True Dandelion not being the same person. I am not sure who I think the True Dandelion is but I would believe almost anyone who isn't Strelitzia. And if I am wrong they better give a good reason for changing her white coat for a white blanket, and having her perfectly able to walk in one scene to being carried like a bag of laundry the next. Which admitted they would, they almost always have good reasons for the tiny details. That said I could believe that MoM took Data Strelitzia to Unreality with him. However there are so many places that she could be that saying that is like saying Ava might be in Unreality. Which yeah she could but she could also be in the Realm of Darkness, a computer somewhere, in the sleeping realm, or an old grandma of one of the characters. Still I will say that Data Strelitzia being Nameless Star is actually more likely then some of the other theories. The only reason I can think of for it not to really be true is because Lauriam seems be somewhat connected to his sister most likely holding a piece of her within him. It seems unlikely that Strelitzia can be fully herself without the piece that Lauriam has. Which might or might not be a point to Nameless Star being her. If Nameless Star is Strelitzia does that mean Lauriam is going to give Yozora the shovel talk? I do still want to point out that if Unreality was just a data world video game it would be very easy to go into it. And such worlds are thought of as part of reality. We have gone to Data Worlds. Yes Verum Rex is a video game, but when Sora was forced into the video game in KH3 I very much doubt that he actually went to Unreality and come back like nothing happened. Plus talking to people inside a data world from outside of it is very easy to do. This "Voices can not reach" thing wouldn't happen just because Sora is inside a data world. There is more to Unreality then simply going into a video game, or going into Pooh's book, or going into Ansem's computer, or going into the Journal. All of those things are easy to get into and out of, we have been doing do since the first game. Unreality is not a Data world, at lest not a Data world whose computer is physically in Reality. Or if it is physically there then there is some kind of barrier between it and the rest of reality that even wielders have a hard time getting through. Which is insanely hard to do.
I think Yozora is Brain’s nobody not sure how it happened but somehow Brain fell to the darkness in kingdom hearts missing link so Sora needs to change Yozora back into his somebody Brain
I like ideal and also don’t wonder yozora mighty knows what a keyblade yozora not shock or suprise unreality might have they owners keyblade as well maybe he brain or maybe he meet master of master that why he not shock when see a keyblade and master of master tell yozora to save sora that reason why he Crystallised sora not save sora because why he say that line I will save you because sora in master of master plans yozora want stop master of master plan why he need sora is obviously need x-blade or maybe just yozora personally he really don’t care all that much.
You have to understand, the next kingdom hearts games are going to explore reincarnation and other spiritual topics. I suggest you do some research. Sora and that star.. that was Sora’s twin flame/his soul.. when you die, you don’t have a name or a body anymore, just a star I guess
My theory is the both endings are canon but we see them in the wrong order and from the wrong perspective.
Yozora is a video game character and has video game aesthetic throughout his fight.
In a video game when you lose the boss battle you get sent back before the fight and any cutscenes the player saw before the boss fight start, didn't really happen to the character.
So my theory is that Yozora goes to sleep fights loses then the "good" ending plays (for Sora). Then like the play who fights Yozora over and over again. Yozora is fighting Sora, till he wins causing the "bad" ending plays (for Sora)
I think yozora is the avatar noctis uses when he sleeps and traverses the "spirit world." Which in this case is the many worlds of KH. and noctis' real world is the "unreality" to the KH characters. Sora is dead to noctis, but noctis is dead to Sora.
I've heard a lot of theories about Yozora but this one, this one is very sound and grounded. It makes a lot of sense to have Brain be the one using Yozora as a vessel to meet Sora and make sure he doesn't come into contact with the MoM, at least in a state where MoM could take the X-blade. I still want to see Yozora as his own character and his universe expanded upon and see Verum Rex as the FF Versus XIII we never got which still seems possible even with this theory but nothing is confirmed or denied yet so we'll have to wait and see.
I have 0 doubts Nomura is starting a new series with Verum Rex. We just have to get pass KH4 first.
@@AMAZIAH I mean, at this point anything is possible, basically if that happened we'd just be getting a Nomura-verse series which if it works out could be the most epic thing to exist.
So The Ark/Box might just be holding a videogame console or powerful-ass PC rig. Huh.
The black box? I think its a piece of the X~blade. The Master's old X~blade. The one that broke in legend but somehow never showed up.
I am just starting the video now, but I have been viewing Unreality in terms similar to what MoM said, "A world even I couldn't conceive of." If those words were actually Nomura/the development teams words, Unreality would be the remnants of games/stories left forever untold. They are less "real" than Data, as they are too incomplete to have become Data. In this line of thinking canceled games like FF13-versus or Chrono Break (or whatever the third chrono trigger game would have been called) being reprised would fit nicely, as would the "purified" Shinjuku that could not be saved in TWEWY.
ah≈≈~ code lyoko reference! That is one of the better ways to describe the xehanort-style body snatching as well as the khux dandelions surviving in data-copies of their bodies
I heard Noctis is actually the Master of Masters, which as crazy as that sounds…which it is… it’s not completely unsound. Besides Ray Chase voicing him in English, he himself does not actually know his “real” name, only the name presented to him via the script. He’s admitted that it’s not a name he’s seen, but he’s not sure if it will be changed.
Type:0 has A LOT of influence on Daybreak Town, and it will play a key part in KH4, so “Noctis” being in “Type:0” isn’t that far off.
I never responded to this. Cause I couldn't understand the context. But I think I understand it now. Is the idea that. Because they both have the same voice actor and Ray chase. Saying that perhaps the Master's name was a fill-in. This could truly be an older Noctis?
As far as I'm concerned. I don't think it's probable, but it is possible. The whole existence of Verum Rex is do to the fact Nomura. Cannot do anything with VS13 or 15 possibly anymore. He's even contractually bound from talking about vs13. So how could he flat out use Noctis himself?
However, I remember back 09 when I got into KH. Nomura kept reiterating KH3 cannot happen without the release of vs13. I think Noctis and Sora were going to be connected somehow. Until vs13 was taken from. Like these 2 Prince's possibly would've wound up in the others world. Instead of dying Noctis was going to come to the world of KH. With Sora himself winding up in FFvs13 world.
Like a Fairy Oddparents/Jimmy Neutron style cross over. Thus after that wasn't possible anymore. It became Verum Rex.
@@AMAZIAH Oh I should’ve worded it better. Ray Chase said in a Tweet that his script actually says the Master’s “real name,” but it wasn’t anything familiar to the series, and it could be changed later on.
The theory is that the name was “Superbia,” which is Latin for Pride/ Arrogance. The Lucii/Lucis name is based off of Lucifer/Lux/ The Lightbringer.
Lucifer’s downfall was his Arrogance; his Superbia. The MoM’s arrogance is Luxu, since Luxu inevitably betrays the Master as it was already written in the Book of Prophecies.
The theory also could suggest that it was Noctis’ arrogance that led to his downfall, which depending on the ending of either XV or VXIII, he is destined to always lose. In fact, the ending of the first Versus XIII trailer is confirmed that Noctis dies on his throne. He also looks like he’s sleeping, so maybe that’s why Yozora was in the Final World(?)
I agree that Versus XIII was meant to be in Kingdom Hearts at some point. Sora has his own Warp Strike and Armiger just like Noctis. As for Nomura, he is no longer contractually bound from mentioning Versus. It was kinda confirmed during a Dissidia livestream. While he was drawing Noctis, the person next to him mentioned that Noctis originally was from VXIII. Nomura asked if they were allowed to talk about it, to which the other person replied “it’s probably fine.”
Funny story, Dissidia NT has the Versus XIII outfit under the name: Otherworldly Outfit, which would be true since the Dawn of the Future book states it’s in another reality. I do find it strange that they were advertising Dissidia NT while all this was going on. Perhaps it was was a nice little nod, but you can’t tell with Nomura.
Ultimately, I think Verum Rex and Versus XIII will exist together. There was unfortunately a slight deviation from the story’s path, but Verum Rex will eventually branch off onto the intended path. The Crystal Regalia, the Somnus motif, the car scene, Yozora’s name; it’s all too specific to be a recreation of an older idea. This was all planned I feel, maybe since the very beginning of KH3’s development in the event that a cancellation would happen.
@Daniel Of Tamriel Interesting. Some thought I have pertaining to some of this. Are in my next video so I can't speak on them here. But definitely everything about Noctis seemed to parallel Sora back in those days. I wonder what Kingdom Hearts 3 would've been in a world where Vs13 happened.
@@danieloftamriel damn, i never thought of the crossover that intricately! Noctis sleeping on the throne and relating to yozora is interesting. Maybe "noctis" chooses to play the role of yozora to hide his self from the attack that is represented in the FFV13 trailer. Idk, but thanks for the insight my friend. 👍
@@smitty02345 Looking back on your comment, it’s actually even more plausible that Noctis can use Yozora as an avatar of sorts via dreaming.
In KH3 Re:Mind, there are two endings:
One where Sora loses, and Yozora “saves” him by crystallizing him (a nod to Crystal Stasis from Final Fantasy 13, one of three games in the original Fabula Nova Crystallis),
And one where Yozora loses, and Sora sends Yozora back to wherever he was originally from.
We find out later through the manga and another source I can’t quite remember, that both endings were actually canon, but we didn’t know how…until this new theory popped up.
The boss fight was all a dream, hence Sora waking up in the secret ending (or in the KH4 trailer not entirely sure yet), and Yozora waking up in the Regalia. It is possible for people to dream about the same thing, but their interpretation will be different.
Dreaming is a big plot point in KH3 and especially in DDD. I think Yozora also has the power to delve into his own dreams, which explains how he’s so powerful despite being a dream.
That Verus XIII cutscene of Noctis sleeping the chair could potentially be repurposed to fit into KH4’s narrative, especially since Noctis himself had the ability to see the light of expiring souls in and out of dreams.
For all we know, Noctis could have been dreaming about Noctis from XV while VXIII was going on, and that fits the story of Dawn Of The Future, and how Noctis saw a vision of himself within the Crystal fighting all Magitek Troopers at Insomnia.
I’m very interested to see where the series going with this. It’s all so exciting! KH4 was one huge reference to the E3 2013 trailer of Versus XIII (renamed to XV). They even had Somnus and the text from the XV trailers playing! Not to mention the whole “Fabula Books” thing hidden in the background haha.
Sora got banned from his universe for cheating..
They released the anti cheat
@@AMAZIAH I was so baked when I made that comment lol. On a real note keep up the good work G love your content my favorite kingdom hearts stuff comes from your channel! Every video peaks my interest!
Verum Rex will be made once Kingdom Hearts 4 is created! Nomura said in an interview that he was conflicted and he didn’t know what game to create after Kingdom Hearts 3 so he ultimately chose to make Kingdom Hearts 4 first since fans were worried about Sora! So we are getting a Verum Rex game in the future!
Oh man i cant wait for the next vid!
Another 2 weeks
I love this video I’ve been thinking bout this for months thinking I could be wrong like there’s no way but every leader from UNION is in KH3 in some way shape or form keep up the good work and I’ve seen code lyoko 👍🏾
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I think Code Lyoko's whole thing is happening here. A body morph of Noctis doesn't fit the progression thus far. Melody of Memory has already told us so much with like an hour of content. People just gloss over the words for what little they grasp. Like Fairy, Godmother literally exposes so much about unreality by simply saying she doesn't know much at all. Yen Sid is sending Mickey to Scala Ad Caelum for research of unreality. Is beyond the scope of a body morph.
And since a literal heart had to be used for travel to Quadratum, Via, the power of awakening as Young Xehanort said it's meant to work. This is what Nomura established the other means of travel via the Arks for. People from our side do have a means to unreality.
And who else seemed hefty knowledgeable about the Master's tech? Brain... Yozora has a lot of hard counters to the Master of Masters. Ava, recruited specifically Brain, to her cause. Look who just so happened to be born again in an unspecified era. With a missing Ava and a boy in a cut-off world of imagination,
Yozora is Brain. The dude even dressed like a KH3 character 1000 years ago. The smug attitude fits the one he had against darkness. Yozora in the trailer doesn't have teleportation or dimension hopping. Fake Yozora is like a phantom of Xigbar if he had a sword. Yozora's lasers give off that spacial ripple like Xigbars bullets. Of course, he isn't as refined as Luxu. Who can literally walk on and exist on 2 different planes of reality at once?
But it's like Yozora is literally using the power of an inhabitor. This is self evident when he uses the power of awakening on Sora.
Commenting early in the video.
Just saying I like the idea of Ava being Sora's mom. :) keep up the good work dood!
I think conceptually they are the same. its like agumon and Charmander
Yeah pretty much. This is vs 13 in a different context. But I don't think it's in KH so Nomura can tell that story. Cause he said that wasn't the case.
I think. Yozora could have knew about Sora through a childrens book. "Winnie the pooh" meanwhile Sora learns about Yozora through a videogame. "Verum Rex"
I kind of like your theory about people from RoL ending up in Unreality and taking over the people there. However I would in no way say that it is the most likely theory, and really hope that if you end up being wrong that you are not disappointed to the point that you dislike the game that proves you wrong. That's part of the reason I try to keep at lest two theories possible in my head when talking about any topic in KH.
Still your theory about people for the past ending up in Unreality taking over some of the people there and those character maybe ending up back in Reality once this is all finished does make a lot of sense to me. I am not sure that I agree with Brain and Strelitzia being Yozora and Nameless Star but I would be a bit hard to convince of any details like that.
I do question, if Yozora is someone from Reality then was his name always Yozora? Because he seems to think of himself as Yozora, did he forget his real name? No he seems very sure that his looks should give him another name. Which means his real name has to be Yozora and he has another name that people call him when he looks like he does. Which brings a lot of confusion to the video game Rex plays, as he knows the name Yozora.
There is also the fact that Data worlds are part of Reality. We have traveled to them several times in KH. What would be the difference between a video game world(unreality) and a normal Data world which you can go to simply by opening the lock to the computer it's on. It has to be something a bit more then just a data world for it to be so hard to get to.
So yeah I really like your theory. But I see some really big holes and either I missed how you filled them in or I just disagree with you about. I am not sure which.
If Unreality is a trap for MoM do you think it will work or is everyone that lives through trying to spring this trap going to end up in Reality after it fails?
Let me make this bit clear. I would never be upset, if I'm wrong.
But you seem to still be holding onto the same thoughts my contemporaries have. Which is fine. I can't prove my own theories 3 ways to Sunday.
But to me. It doesn't sound logical that Yozora is anyone else. The star doesn't even tell us that this is a possibility. The first Verum Rex cutscene is a trailer for the game. It's playing on TV in Xehanort's fake Toy Box.
So this 1 point already starts with a big hole. Why would he look like someone else. But be on the boxart, trailers, and is known by the girl as Yozora. Who Rex and the other toys confirm is the guy on the box-art for as far as Rex and Ham made it(Bahamut boss fight). Yozora is the guy we see. He is not Noctis, in any way but being a fill in.
Next. (2)The star said that Yozora would be remissed if he knew of her absence. So with what we know from (1: Yozora is who we see.) Why does he not care about Sora mentioning a girl? Because this is someone else using his form.
(3) Kairi reaching destiny island, was a 20 year plot-thread. That has only been revealed now. For Xehanort to say while prepping her for her mission. She might wind up in unreality. Awareness, he has. Yet, Ansem The Wise and even a mythical entity like Fairy Godmother doesn't. Yen Sid then sends Mickey on a mission to visit Scala Ad Caelum to research the Union leaders. As they were said to be sent to a world, before the end of their world, and been lost ever since. This is 1 to 1 with Sigurd's details about Brain's friends not appearing in the same time as him to there knowledge.
So Xehanort clearly knows about Unreality from Scala Ad Caelum. This is confirmed by Yen Sid, not a theory. So if they know about unreality, why wouldn't they be sending people there? How do you think Xehanort got Luxord? Cause they clearly play some role in the creation of Verum Rex.
@@AMAZIAH I am glad that you will not be mad if you are wrong. Sometimes in your videos you make a statement like that makes you sound very sure of yourself which I admit made me a bit worried.
I agree Yozora is not Noctis. I have always believed it when he said that Verum Rex and Versus 13 where not the same thing. I have written stories before and know that if there was story idea that you couldn't use before they stay in your brain until you can use it. And when you can use the idea then it is often very different then what the original plan was.
2 I am not really surprised that Yozora doesn't react about the girl. Nameless star basically said that his heart was replaced with another. Anytime two heart try to battle each other for a body there has been both a physical change to the body, and a problem with memory. Nameless Star seems very clear that he either hasn't noticed her absence yet or he has outright forgotten her. There are past times something like what is being hinted at have happen and Yozora not really remembering her right seems very likely given the clues we do have.
I really think that the spirit who is talking is Yozora. Because it really seems like he is surprised that Sora connects his looks with his name. It is one of the only moments of surprise Yozora shows. Granted with two hearts clashing and likely memory problems it could be that even the name is misty. But we know that someone named Yozora who is friends with Nameless Star has to exist.
We might just need to agree to disagree on this point. Or agree to agree but misspeak to the point we can't tell that we are agreeing. I have done that several times.
Yes Xehanort learned about Unreality in Scala. And there also seems to be a story about past masters disappearing to Unreality.
That said we have no idea which missing masters the story is talking about.
It might be talking about the foretellers, or maybe Ephemer and his students go missing. Or maybe it's the several cities worth of wielders that disappeared a little bit after Xehanort's and Eraqus' birth. Likely not the last one given that the boys talk about the Lost Masters like it happened a long time ago.
We have run into the problem that we don't know enough to tell prove or disprove any theory.
As for Luxord if he is indeed Yozora's driver. Which I question mostly because one line and the back of a person's head which doesn't even have the right hair color really isn't enough to make me sure about it.
However I am willing to say that he is the same character for a moment.
I honestly don't think Xehanort got Luxord. It seems a lot more likely that Luxord came of his own accord and with his own plan. Luxord seems like to much of a foil for Luxu for that not to be the case.
It's possible that Xehanort came to Unreality at some point but it is also possible that he just heard stories. With DR so close with many possible answers I find myself a little unwilling to say which of the many theories(about Xehanort's past) I have heard and talked about seem more likely to me. Maybe after we get more information or a hear a theory that makes something click I will be more deceive about things.
@Hillary Slack He isn't connecting looks to a name. That is the body of Yozora. If someone else is in controlling Yozora. As the star says. The not remembering her part is that he is not in control of the vessel.
But then why does fairy godmother say the star for some reason wound up in their final world. The heart is a real heart, that's why. Remember how Kairi preserved Sora by not letting him go? Lauriam, has this same plot thread with Strelitzia.
Lauriam: "Player, may I ask you a favor? Please keep my sister in your heart."
Xehanort has these memories and still feels their plight. Deep within the recesses of his heart. The part of him that was player character. She is all but confirmed Strelitzia. The memory loss of Strelitzia, is why she thinks she's from Verum Rex.
Luxu did put her in a Ark. So that's self evident.
These lines of thinking are massive links. Yozora is a video game character. When his inhabitor is done with him. He will return to the story of the game. Re:Coded taught this to us. Without the heart of (unknown) he would be chasing the girl around in his own story. And would've never met Sora.
@@AMAZIAH He outright says "How do you recognize me as Yozora?" Which means that those looks are not what Yozora should look like.
Though I will admit he never outright says that he is Yozora he kind of dances around saying it outright. But it is very much implied that his name is Yozora. And that how he looks isn't how Yozora looks.
I am almost sure that Yozora isn't meant to look like how we see him.(Well as sure as anything we can know about Unreality and Yozora) Which means the box is either lying to us, or more likely Yozora in Rex's game changes how he looks at the beginning of the game. Though this also means that Yozora can't know about the video game because otherwise he would know how someone not of Unreality would know to connect his looks to the name of Yozora.
I don't think think Strelitzia is the True Dandelion or that Luxu is the one walking Data(?) Strelitzia around. The coat details are way to different, and there is nothing to say that Luxu ever went into the data Daybreak Town and a lot pointing to him never going there. It's not a for sure thing, but Data Strelitzia being the True Dandelion feels like a really big red herring and until proven otherwise I am unable to believe it. There is just way to much pointing to Strelitzia and the True Dandelion not being the same person. I am not sure who I think the True Dandelion is but I would believe almost anyone who isn't Strelitzia. And if I am wrong they better give a good reason for changing her white coat for a white blanket, and having her perfectly able to walk in one scene to being carried like a bag of laundry the next. Which admitted they would, they almost always have good reasons for the tiny details.
That said I could believe that MoM took Data Strelitzia to Unreality with him. However there are so many places that she could be that saying that is like saying Ava might be in Unreality. Which yeah she could but she could also be in the Realm of Darkness, a computer somewhere, in the sleeping realm, or an old grandma of one of the characters.
Still I will say that Data Strelitzia being Nameless Star is actually more likely then some of the other theories. The only reason I can think of for it not to really be true is because Lauriam seems be somewhat connected to his sister most likely holding a piece of her within him. It seems unlikely that Strelitzia can be fully herself without the piece that Lauriam has. Which might or might not be a point to Nameless Star being her.
If Nameless Star is Strelitzia does that mean Lauriam is going to give Yozora the shovel talk?
I do still want to point out that if Unreality was just a data world video game it would be very easy to go into it. And such worlds are thought of as part of reality. We have gone to Data Worlds. Yes Verum Rex is a video game, but when Sora was forced into the video game in KH3 I very much doubt that he actually went to Unreality and come back like nothing happened. Plus talking to people inside a data world from outside of it is very easy to do. This "Voices can not reach" thing wouldn't happen just because Sora is inside a data world.
There is more to Unreality then simply going into a video game, or going into Pooh's book, or going into Ansem's computer, or going into the Journal. All of those things are easy to get into and out of, we have been doing do since the first game. Unreality is not a Data world, at lest not a Data world whose computer is physically in Reality. Or if it is physically there then there is some kind of barrier between it and the rest of reality that even wielders have a hard time getting through. Which is insanely hard to do.
Imagine its just leading up to an SAO crossover and Yozora is the main enemy of the next season :0
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Unreality doesn't Inherently mean parallel. It means just that, the opposite of reality,aka Fiction
I feel like they are the same person.
I'm revisiting this because I think I kinda understand Yozora, and who has Yozora's body
Brain looks more like Magia
I think Yozora is Brain’s nobody not sure how it happened but somehow Brain fell to the darkness in kingdom hearts missing link so Sora needs to change Yozora back into his somebody Brain
I like ideal and also don’t wonder yozora mighty knows what a keyblade yozora not shock or suprise unreality might have they owners keyblade as well maybe he brain or maybe he meet master of master that why he not shock when see a keyblade and master of master tell yozora to save sora that reason why he Crystallised sora not save sora because why he say that line I will save you because sora in master of master plans yozora want stop master of master plan why he need sora is obviously need x-blade or maybe just yozora personally he really don’t care all that much.
You have to understand, the next kingdom hearts games are going to explore reincarnation and other spiritual topics. I suggest you do some research. Sora and that star.. that was Sora’s twin flame/his soul.. when you die, you don’t have a name or a body anymore, just a star I guess
Yozora…. Yohora-Nier automata..
NO COINCIDENCE
Why did it sound like your mother typed this out for you to read out loud lol
Who knows