My second flight lesson( which my wife got me for valentines day.) was in a 30+ knot head wind. It was awesome. They called me to cancel and I was like "what?!?!, don't planes fly on literally wind." My flight instructor Chris laughed out loud and we went up. The local guard decided it would be a good training day and took his blackhawk up for full tilt landings. I was so proud of all of us for taking the time to learn to maneuver in what is a common occurrence in Southern New Mexico. It was a good day.
wow, most valuable lesson ever. I took off with a 10 knots crosswind, and I did not remember to aileron it to the crosswind, and I almost crashed into the lawn when I pulled up successfully. OMG so lucky.
For me it wasn’t being scared of being cross controlled, it was the psychological resistance of turning the yoke 90 degree to the left or right into the wind 10ft over the ground. Now I love em.
Up wheel firts? There is only 2 tech 1- Crabangle 2- Side slip I can not find at leats on Google, where says up wheel landing firts. Sorry but I land my Pitts, Dc3, C46, Dc6, 727, 737, E190 AND A320 family in xwind with all wheels at the same time You must do it right, and is great, because when you correct it, just concentrade on flare.. Sorry to disagree, but if have lecture about one wheel, I wiill apreciate.. Thanks
4:55 I love to watch those intense control inputs, back and forth and into the wind and off again... it perfectly demonstrates the tango you actually dance with the energy loaded air which wants to push you around but you the pilot just don't let it happen. It's the real deal, unlike the fair weather piloting on Sundays. :)
Good video. When I was learning to fly and after a little experience my greatest fears and challenges were cross-wind landings. Boy, did I struggle but eventually I got it right and it made me a more confident pilot. I have to laugh at some of the criticism offered to videos of commercial pilots making what seems to be awkward landings when in fact they are highly skilful landings.
As a student glider pilot the only time I envy power pilots is on landing. I had one gusty landing that I would have gladly gone around on when I saw the wind sock fully inflated whirling around just before turning base. I handled it well and everything calmed down a few second before rounding off and then just before touchdown it nailed me. It wasn't a pretty landing but all was well and I soloed 2 flights later.
7:43 that happened to me a lot today, I got so disappointed. Gonna try the stuff at 6:00 on my next flight, great advice/ teaching techniqe. Thanks for the video!
Crosswind, that brings back memories. I used to fly a powered glider with one center wheel and little stabilising wheels on flexible supports under the wings. That thing simply could not taxi at all in crosswinds as it just laid down its downwind wing. You could land it alright but you then needed someone to come and hold the wing while taxiing. Quite awkward if you were not at your home-base and people assumed that you just had sheared off a wheel landing.
one time the wind was about 2o knots 90 degrees to the runway my instructor said it was a great day for crosswind landings and after take off we did a 180 degree turn and landed, took off did the same thing in the other direction and kept this up for 45 minutes. He had 14,000 hrs flying time.
If you know there's a cross wind you land with less flaps and more speed. You have more control of the aircraft in all stages of the approach. All max cross wind speeds are determined maintaining centerline with a specific speed (65 KIAS in most C172s) in the landing configuration.
excellent video. I am in my first hours of training and basically 90% of the time I have to deal with crosswind on T/O and landings and I know this has to be a deeply rooted skill. Otherwise, I should move from this airfield...
If you don't practice in crosswinds (fifteen to twenty knts) you're going to get to your destination, one-runway airport some day, and not be able to land. Twice a year, force yourself to ask a controller for runway 18/36 for training, when they are using runway 8/26. Very seldom will they deny you. I've been complimented by controllers for doing it.
My airplane stalls at 38. If confronted with a 30 knot crosswind, I will land across the runway! It is easy to brake from 8 knots forward, to stop on a single runway airport, with no other choices. Likewise, I only need 30 feet or less, to take off in the same wind.
A landing is like a fart.....if you have to push it, it is probably s**t..... That is what my DPE told me after I chose to go around on one of the landings during my PPL checkride. I simply didn't like my approach, felt it was not stable, and told the DPE "I don't like it, I'm going around." I think he was pleased with what I did.
Im a student with about 10 hours of flight time. Im struggling with landings especially since it's windy season. I've been landing in 22knot wind for the past week. Today I had to do 5 go arounds because it was so bad. Very discouraging being a student I feel like I'm getting worse.
ZIPPER978 Don't worry. I am also a low time pilot in training. I encourage you to talk to other instructors besides the one you usually fly with, it helped me out!
A lot of training involves learning all the variables. That may involve doing things improperly a lot of times until you get that Eureka moment when things the variables start coming together. And that process means sometimes one DOES get worse before he get better. That means you're feeling your way around--which is the whole point of practice. Don't rush the process. It will probably click sooner or later.
I'm a student pilot like you. 22 knots is just too much. My motto is that you need to learn to walk before you can run. At 30 hours mark I'm still trying to land smoothly in calm winds(0-5 knots). Once you figure out the landing part in calm winds then you can gradually increase the crosswind component. Start with something small like 3-4 knots and gradually to 10 knots. 22 knots is just way too much. I wouldn't want to fly in it.
Decent video but these still miss the mark when it comes to calling them "instructional videos." Lot of great talking heads stuff from the two experts here but how hard would it be to place a GoPro camera in the cockpit with a student and instructor and film an actual base to final approach in a gusty crosswinds? We keep getting teased that this might happen in a video like this but it never happens -- thus it's hard to take some real-world training away from these nearly 10 minutes. I'm a commercially certificated, instrument-rated pilot with over 900 hours -- including 500 in a Mooney 201. I've seen many student pilots try to get this maneuver from watching videos but it doesn't happen unless you see such a landing from the pilot's and instructor's perspective in a "real" attempt at a landing.
+Cliff Williams 1) I don't have a CZcams channel, and if I did, 2) if I posted something touted it as an "instructional" video, it would be instructional -- not talking heads. Not a criticism, just an observation.
LoL - you want to learn cross wind landings? Head to Ft. St. John CXYJ - with 03/21 closed you'll either learn real quick or you'll end up in the hospital and on the phone with your insurance company.
@@mattbasford6299 I apologize for being rude lol. I'm a student pilot so what do I know? I've had 1 go around and I don't think I even needed to do it. Good practice anyways
1:42 stop telling people then...you ask people to stop investigating different technique also means asking people to stop learning. btw every pilot should have aerobatic rating
My second flight lesson( which my wife got me for valentines day.) was in a 30+ knot head wind. It was awesome. They called me to cancel and I was like "what?!?!, don't planes fly on literally wind." My flight instructor Chris laughed out loud and we went up. The local guard decided it would be a good training day and took his blackhawk up for full tilt landings. I was so proud of all of us for taking the time to learn to maneuver in what is a common occurrence in Southern New Mexico. It was a good day.
wow, most valuable lesson ever. I took off with a 10 knots crosswind, and I did not remember to aileron it to the crosswind, and I almost crashed into the lawn when I pulled up successfully. OMG so lucky.
For me it wasn’t being scared of being cross controlled, it was the psychological resistance of turning the yoke 90 degree to the left or right into the wind 10ft over the ground. Now I love em.
I like the last point made about "I think I can make this work". Go around... No shame in it to me. Cheers
Up wheel firts?
There is only 2 tech
1- Crabangle
2- Side slip
I can not find at leats on Google, where says up wheel landing firts.
Sorry but I land my Pitts, Dc3, C46, Dc6, 727, 737, E190 AND A320 family in xwind with all wheels at the same time
You must do it right, and is great, because when you correct it, just concentrade on flare.. Sorry to disagree, but if have lecture about one wheel, I wiill apreciate..
Thanks
Excellent video, I will show this to my students when doing my PGI on landing!
this is one of the best instructionfilms for landings on the net. I've seen it many times and keep going back
4:55 I love to watch those intense control inputs, back and forth and into the wind and off again... it perfectly demonstrates the tango you actually dance with the energy loaded air which wants to push you around but you the pilot just don't let it happen. It's the real deal, unlike the fair weather piloting on Sundays. :)
"Dancing on the rudder" sounds like the name of an aviation book.
daffidavit - I like the way she explains things.
@@toddb930 Yes, she spot on nails what happens. No gust to gust and gust with changing speeds. For me it's like juggling the controls.
Dancing on the rudder is the first skill learned when landing a tail dragger.
Good video. When I was learning to fly and after a little experience my greatest fears and challenges were cross-wind landings.
Boy, did I struggle but eventually I got it right and it made me a more confident pilot.
I have to laugh at some of the criticism offered to videos of commercial pilots making what seems to be awkward landings when in fact they are highly skilful landings.
Good video, great to hear from the experienced pilots making very good sense.
As a student glider pilot the only time I envy power pilots is on landing. I had one gusty landing that I would have gladly gone around on when I saw the wind sock fully inflated whirling around just before turning base. I handled it well and everything calmed down a few second before rounding off and then just before touchdown it nailed me. It wasn't a pretty landing but all was well and I soloed 2 flights later.
You should get power training and get a motorglider
What a lovely lady Instructor. Refreshing change from many instructors I've met.
Great footage.cool to see how much roll and yaw can be used when crosswind landing.
7:43 that happened to me a lot today, I got so disappointed. Gonna try the stuff at 6:00 on my next flight, great advice/ teaching techniqe. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for sharing all the techniques.
Thank you for this I have been trying to explain this to my students. I hope this will help them more.
Crosswind, that brings back memories. I used to fly a powered glider with one center wheel and little stabilising wheels on flexible supports under the wings. That thing simply could not taxi at all in crosswinds as it just laid down its downwind wing. You could land it alright but you then needed someone to come and hold the wing while taxiing. Quite awkward if you were not at your home-base and people assumed that you just had sheared off a wheel landing.
one time the wind was about 2o knots 90 degrees to the runway my instructor said it was a great day for crosswind landings and after take off we did a 180 degree turn and landed, took off did the same thing in the other direction and kept this up for 45 minutes. He had 14,000 hrs flying time.
If you know there's a cross wind you land with less flaps and more speed. You have more control of the aircraft in all stages of the approach. All max cross wind speeds are determined maintaining centerline with a specific speed (65 KIAS in most C172s) in the landing configuration.
I'm surprised this wasn't mentioned
Thank you for sharing this.
Thanks for sharing!
Understanding the difference between a skid and a slip is essential.
Simple presentation on a complex subject
Excellent video! X winds are intimidating to be sure. Fly the plane until you are stopped.
You can start practicing at altitude first before going low. That's how I learned. Safer is the best way to go.
8:07 when your on the ground you will put in more and more aileron as the aircraft slows down
excellent video. I am in my first hours of training and basically 90% of the time I have to deal with crosswind on T/O and landings and I know this has to be a deeply rooted skill. Otherwise, I should move from this airfield...
Very good and informative video.
I had no idea that Skyler White was a CFI!!
Hahahaha
Hahaha... right... but I think Kristine is way more beautiful! Just my opinion...
This was very helpful. Thank You.
I AM the one who instructs!
It is good to repeat and repeat this knowledge...appreciate to ASI.
Thank you !
That's was lot of wisdom from experienced people
If you don't practice in crosswinds (fifteen to twenty knts) you're going to get to your destination, one-runway airport some day, and not be able to land. Twice a year, force yourself to ask a controller for runway 18/36 for training, when they are using runway 8/26. Very seldom will they deny you. I've been complimented by controllers for doing it.
great CFI
My airplane stalls at 38. If confronted with a 30 knot crosswind, I will land across the runway! It is easy to brake from 8 knots forward, to stop on a single runway airport, with no other choices. Likewise, I only need 30 feet or less, to take off in the same wind.
So in other words, a landing doesn’t end just because the wheels are on the ground.
Deep CZcams thank you
7:27 Exactly what I am doing wrong. Thanks!
I don't like crosswinds but the more you practice the more comfortable you get with them.
Wow! She’s pretty!
0:30 that guy sounds like the one in FSX in the first missions
Yep. That's him. I think he was involved in earlier versions of MSFS, also.
hahaha yeah
I wish they would show a landing all the way through instead of cutting to the speaker all the time.
I can't help asking what the Wright Brothers or all the flyers from World War one would have thought of today's aircraft!!!????
A landing is like a fart.....if you have to push it, it is probably s**t..... That is what my DPE told me after I chose to go around on one of the landings during my PPL checkride. I simply didn't like my approach, felt it was not stable, and told the DPE "I don't like it, I'm going around." I think he was pleased with what I did.
Did 15kts 90 degree cross wind landing with an instructor in a c172. Scared the instructor LOL
Cross controlling at low airspeeds scares the hell out of me, I admit it. But, then, my first stall at age 13 turned into a spin...
That's the worst luck I've ever heard of in anyone. Ever.
enrique3402
Yet, I still fly and I have actually conquered my fear of stalls. Even to the point of doing a turning stall recently. :)
That's awesome! I'm finishing up my first semester at Vaughn College and start flying sometime in January.
Great! I look forward to hearing about your training and successes!
+Krista Morisen I'm trying soo hard to get over the stall fear I practice stalls on every flight and I still don't feel totally secure
8:27
Not as long as those that pride themselves on the max component in the book.
Most people don't know that it is not a limitation of the aircraft. It is simply the maximum demonstrated crosswind.
Im a student with about 10 hours of flight time. Im struggling with landings especially since it's windy season. I've been landing in 22knot wind for the past week. Today I had to do 5 go arounds because it was so bad. Very discouraging being a student I feel like I'm getting worse.
ZIPPER978 Don't worry. I am also a low time pilot in training. I encourage you to talk to other instructors besides the one you usually fly with, it helped me out!
ZIPPER978 dude same!! that's why I'm watching this video...just stay at it you/we will get it
A lot of training involves learning all the variables. That may involve doing things improperly a lot of times until you get that Eureka moment when things the variables start coming together. And that process means sometimes one DOES get worse before he get better. That means you're feeling your way around--which is the whole point of practice. Don't rush the process. It will probably click sooner or later.
ZIPPER978 smooth seas never make a good sailor
I'm a student pilot like you. 22 knots is just too much. My motto is that you need to learn to walk before you can run. At 30 hours mark I'm still trying to land smoothly in calm winds(0-5 knots). Once you figure out the landing part in calm winds then you can gradually increase the crosswind component. Start with something small like 3-4 knots and gradually to 10 knots. 22 knots is just way too much. I wouldn't want to fly in it.
You’ll usually find me on the crosswind runway. Why does everyone give me crap for touch n goes on the crosswind runway lol. It’s more fun
Very thin on explaining actual technique for acceptable crosswind landings. This is a video discussion, not a learning aid.
If you think you can learn cross wind landing from a video you got a nasty surprise waiting for you.
^^ He's right
If you need a test pilot, you can call me.
If you don't stall, you won't spin.
Nothing is wrong with cross - wind itself. Stalled while cross_ wind is the problem.
Decent video but these still miss the mark when it comes to calling them "instructional videos." Lot of great talking heads stuff from the two experts here but how hard would it be to place a GoPro camera in the cockpit with a student and instructor and film an actual base to final approach in a gusty crosswinds? We keep getting teased that this might happen in a video like this but it never happens -- thus it's hard to take some real-world training away from these nearly 10 minutes. I'm a commercially certificated, instrument-rated pilot with over 900 hours -- including 500 in a Mooney 201. I've seen many student pilots try to get this maneuver from watching videos but it doesn't happen unless you see such a landing from the pilot's and instructor's perspective in a "real" attempt at a landing.
+Mark Marchand - I looked at your CZcams channel and didn't see any videos at all. I thought you would've uploaded a few of those 900+ hours.
+Cliff Williams 1) I don't have a CZcams channel, and if I did, 2) if I posted something touted it as an "instructional" video, it would be instructional -- not talking heads. Not a criticism, just an observation.
You have a fair point. I'd like for someone to show us newby's how to do it right. Get a camera and a youtube account and help us out.
+Cliff Williams flightchops and Canadian flight centre has great videos
LoL - you want to learn cross wind landings? Head to Ft. St. John CXYJ - with 03/21 closed you'll either learn real quick or you'll end up in the hospital and on the phone with your insurance company.
I've made thousands of landings. I think I've executed a go around twice.
doesn't mean anything
@@Hedgeflexlfz ok
@@mattbasford6299 How close were you to crashing
@@Hedgeflexlfz never been close to crashing. One of my go arounds was because my landing lights shone on deer.
@@mattbasford6299 I apologize for being rude lol. I'm a student pilot so what do I know? I've had 1 go around and I don't think I even needed to do it. Good practice anyways
1:42 stop telling people then...you ask people to stop investigating different technique also means asking people to stop learning. btw every pilot should have aerobatic rating