Festool Domino Alignment Jig from FC Tools [video 384] [Gifted/Ad**]
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- In todays video I take a look at the Domino Alignment #Jig from FC Tools for the #Festool #Domino - is this truly the end of pencil marks? Enjoy!
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Thanks for sharing. Love how quick, honestly and simply you explain and show tools. Keep up the great work.
Thank you! 👍👍
Thank you Peter. Another honest, informative and unbiased presentation. 👍🏻 I hope you and your family are healthy and staying safe.
Thanks Allan! And yes, we’re all well, hope you and yours are too! 👍👍
That's a pretty neat jig, makes life a whole lot easier if you have a need for it.
Frank, you're a good man. 👌🏽
Cheers for sharing that with us, Peter. 👍🏽
Cheers Bill! Yes, it’s a bit of a niche product, but if you have the need it’s a whole lot cheaper than a CNC big enough to make those mortises! 👍👍
Love the videos! Your calm and instructive way is very nice to listen to
Thank you! 👍
Peter good to see your well ,stay safe and wash your hands Peter
Thanks Syd, you too! 👍👍
As always, Peter, informative. With what’s going on in the world, may you and your stay safe!
Thanks Steve. And yes, all week here, hope you are too! 👍
That looks like a quality tool, I can't really justify it but that doesn't mean I won't buy one!
It is really well made, yes. 👍👍
Thank you for mentioning this. This is a huge problem. Not being able to account for dimension changes.
Thanks! They weren’t too impressed with me, but I insist on being honest about this stuff, and it’s an issue. 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop I subbed solely on the fact that you were honest....even though you knew they weren't going to be impressed with you.
Very interesting vid. Ofcourse too expensive for a hobby, but for a pro, who makes this kind of joints several times a day, is this tool an absolute must.
It’s not ‘a must’ - as I say in the video it’s not for me - but of you typically have half a dozen carcasses on the go on any one job the it would be a time saver. 👍👍
Hi Peter, I have just bought myself a domino 500 and have been having fun learning it's ways. What I find frustrating is that I've spent £1000 on a tool set to help me build a kitchen that I now (it seems) need to spend another chunk of cash on to make it work as expected. When I watch all the festool live and demo stuff they make it look so easy! In reality it takes a lot of concentration to get perfect joins with the kit they sell.
Anyway thanks for your videos and informative demos. I am working my way through your back catalogue slowly 👍⚒️ Elliott
Hi Elliot, and thanks! If you haven’t caught them yet the my 10 years of domino videos might be worth a watch, P 1 is here - czcams.com/video/7oxd2Qnvyw0/video.html. I’ll have a ‘domino basics’ series coming out before too long, so keep an eye out for that. Re accessories, honestly the only one I’d recommend to start with is some kind of domino-plate, either the Seneca woodworking one, or a hone-made one. It takes the fence out of the equation, and makes a much more consistent workflow if you’re mostly working in sheet goods. 👍👍
Thank you Peter for your work and explanations.
In my opinion, as a cabinet maker, both the Festool domino and Mafell doweller have their place. Regrettably, Festool were in front of Mafell and didn't think forward enough to make the nose landing plate (on face side , face edge - as required) with registration zones in an aluminium extrusion. Consequently, Mafell took this lead.
However, Festool have the `Cross stop` to combat some of their lack of vision. Even this is not as good as a true `registration plate`.
CONCLUSION. Mafell wins, yet they are dowels. and then Festool wins ..... Sometimes !!!!
Keep up your good work. Thank you. Roj
Been looking for something like that, but yeah, I don't do enough to justify the price. Great to know someone finally came up with a solution. 👍
Agreed! It’s a nice hit, shame it’s not for me. I’d like something that could hook up the an LR32 rail... 🤔👍
I've got some '6mm' MDF, from B&Q, mics at 1/4", just looking at it for a sacrificial strip, but I'll transfer direct as you did. All the best to you both.
Looks fancy but will it really save you time? I'm thinking, setting this thing up and the fact that you have to switch baseplate must take more time than drawing a couple of lines on each board and taking extra care to place the domino by hand will.
You need to do a lot of repetitive holes to make up for the extra setup time spent using a gig like this. A lot. Ikea a lot.
Well, as I say in the video, it’s aimed at guys who routinely have 5 or 6 (or more) carcasses on the go with any given job, so you would batch out the tops with the DCS (base plate) and the sides with the DVS (support bracket). And what if you don’t want / can’t have, pencil marks on the material eg pre-finished or veneered. Again, as I say in the vid, it’s not for me, and it won’t be for everyone, but if you’re the target market then it’s a *lot* cheaper than a CNC big enough to cut the mortises for you. 👍👍
Now listening to the end:) Was not aware that if your sheet good was thicker or thinner, that one could have a minor issue. Thank you
Yes, it’s only a minor thing, and a consequence of splitting the edge/face cuts between the two parts of the system. But worth mentioning as anyone expecting ultimate accuracy could be disappointed - d the materials. 🤷♂️👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Thank you again, I was close to buying!!!
@@10MinuteWorkshop Could this maybe be overcome by little shims?
I've been thinking about those dominoes, the cheapest - but most time consuming - way to do it would be chain drilling the holes with a milling drill bit .
You make it look simple. Good video. Thank you.
Thanks Frits! 👍👍
NIce idea, but very expensive. I'll stick to the Metric Domiplate i have.
Great video, as usual Peter; always learn something and always enjoy your presenting skills...cheers...rr Normandy, France
Thanks Richard! 👍👍
Love my domino, but keep on going back to my Lamello for board/carcass work. Much faster and easier than Domino.
Lot of kit for someone who has just proved that glue alone is quite sufficient
🤷♂️Well, as I said in that video, I would never supply a commercial job that was just glued together, and as I say in this, as fine as the product is, it's not for me, and won't be for everyone. 👍
It looks amazing. If I was batching out cabinet work it would be worth it. But enjoyed the video.
(Another) intriguing design. I guess cost justified.
Am I right in saying you can buy the centering plate to start with to use as a standalone item like a domi plate? Then buy the rail later down the line if you require bit easier on my wallet that way
At the time the video was made it was available as a complete unit, but I believe they can be bought separately now - but do check with the FCTools website👍👍
You are the Walter White of woodworking, very methodical almost science like👍
Haha, thanks - I think! 😂👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Yes!!
Henning Gohlke - Let’s just hope he hasn’t whacked anyone yet.
@@MJ-nb1qn No he is a friendly woodworking version!!
If you do a lot of carcass work, that's a lot cheaper than investing in a cnc to cut your domino holes.
Yep! 👍
Not a bad price considering the obvious quality of the jig, of course it will be twice that price when it lands on Australian shores.
Don’t be too sure; ask Frank at FC Tools for a price to ship to Australia. Unless you meant import duties? Can’t help with that one! 🤷♂️👍
I’ve designed a pinball machine I would like to mass produced. Do you think this would be great?
So I do everything with the included bits with the domino. Can't see the benifit of this
Seems like the DDF40 will do the same thing with its attachments.
Similar, perhaps. Pricey attachments for the Mafell though. 🤷♂️👍
Peter Millard I recently got the entire kit with all of its various attachments. Fantastic machine.
Interesting what people come up with.
Ouch it is a lot of money. Looks great though. But with the price of a domino on top there’s very little change from £1200 plus.
Yes it is, but that’s the wrong way of looking at it really; it’s aimed at *existing* domino users who routinely have 5 or 6 carcasses on the go in any given job. If you’re not a domino user, or if you don’t have that many cabinets on the go, then talk probably not for you. As I say in the vid, it’s not for me, and it won’t be for everyone. But even £1200 is a *lot* less than a CNC big enough to do the same job. 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop is love a domino but as a hobby wood worker its probably never going to end up in my workshop unless you're feeling generous with everything going on in the world right now. 😜😜
Thx for the vid Peter. I have both a Domino XL (with the Seneca plates and small bit adapter), a Porter Cable plate joiner, and a pocket hole jig. For case work, it sure seems like the plate joiner is the faster and easier method, what are your thoughts on that?
I tend to think of the Domino when I need a particularly strong joint.
Thanks! I’ve never owned a plate jointer/biscuit jointer until recently tbh - I went from dowels straight into Dominos without touching biscuits, so I’m definitely faster with a Domino, personally! 👍
Wow the price! give that a miss :) As we are all at home did you ever film any videos with the CnC its boring trying to find things to do or watch
Yes, it’s aimed specifically at guys in the trade who routinely have many cabinet carcasses on the go at the same time - it’s the for me, either, as I say in the vid. And yes, lots to come very soon with the CNC, I’ve been shooting video solidly for the last couple of weeks; a few more days and it’ll all be in the bag. 👍👍
We use 16mm board for carcase work in Australia, 18mm is fairly rare to see, unless you specifically order it. Will this work with 16mm board?
As far as I know it’s purely for 18mm, but throw the question over to the guys at FC Tools to be sure - link in the video description. 👍
Just tried to buy this jig and they were out. Can’t tell if they ship to the US and if they handle our currencies. Any answer?
Videos 21/2 years old, they have another product in this category now, I believe. No idea about shipping, you’ll need to ask FC tools. 👍
Nice idea, yes not for me gona stick with my clear acrilic homemade domiplate and pencil lines. 👍👍👍
Hi Peter, was just watching this video again as I am doing a job doing a tall carcass that requires fixed shelves within it. My question is, will this kit allow for this and could you do a video on that?
Hi Philip. Not specifically; if it’s just a one-off or small number of carcasses/fixed shelves, then you’d be better off working from pencil marks in all honesty; this jig is really aimed at folks cranking out a dozen carcasses a day, where repeat marking and alignment becomes a chore, 👍👍
Hi where do you buy this domino kit iam from Australia. I like your channel very interesting.
Hi. Links are in the video description under ‘Used & featured in this video’ - FC Tools - bit.ly/FCTools 👍👍
Hi peter, great video thank you. Does this jig work for the Domino 700XL?
Thanks! I know they make a baseplate for the XL but not sure if it has the pins to aline with the jig; a question best asked of the guys at FCtools, I think? 👍
Hi peter, relatively new to your channel. enjoying watching and learning.
can you recommend a reasonable priced dowel jig for work/diy projects.
Hi Christopher, and welcome! I’ve only ever used cheap & cheerful dowel jugs I’m afraid, so don’t have any experience of anything better, though I’m told the Axminster one is pretty good; no personal experience of it though, I’m sorry. 🤷♂️👍
thank you ,I will take a look
Too many bits that could get lost. Nice idea tho. Whilst more expensive I think the woodpecker system is better...with exact flexibility to put a domino anywhere u want
Woodpecker has the same idea
The offset base & outriggers? That’s a system of flip stops isn’t it, not registration pins? 🤷♂️
Great review, not a product for me as I don't have a Domino 👍
Thanks Ray! Yeah, it’s a bit of a niche one this, but a really nicely made but if kit, and I always like to showcase guys who are making and manufacturing here in Britain 🇬🇧 👍👍
Does this also work for the 700 XL?
With the appropriate base plate, yes. 👍
Does it do 19 mm?
I didn’t try it, I’m sorry. Maybe a question best addressed to FC tools?? 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Thank you!
ouch.. $500+ us price after the conversion. Thats almost half what the domino cost!!
That pin looks crooked
Waste of money. I use my Domino without marking in most cases
Stay away from your Prime Minister and Prince Charles.
Damn, and they were both popping round later to watch my latest vid! 🤷♂️
I do a better job with a lamello/ biscuit machine, a bit of leftover kitchen worktop made into a bench dog with a 90° upstand to support the carcase sides when cutting the slots.
This seems the 'solution' of a person who's made some money in a different career and decided to be a CZcams maker from their double garage in their retirement years.
I'm sad to learn these are promoted by an experienced maker and designed by a Scottish joiner.
What on Earth are you talking about? I’m a cabinetmaker of 20-odd years, who’s been making CZcams videos for the last 3. Frank Cochrane is a time-served master joiner who has designed and made a variety of these jigs and templates for himself, and others through the little side business that grew to become F C Tools. This is a Domino accessory - if you’re a Lamello user (like I am) then it’s not for you; if you think you can ‘do a better job’ with kitchen worktop scraps lashed together into some kind of jig, then good for you - but again, this won’t be for you, will it?
And to be clear, nobody’s ‘promoting’ anything (a promotion implies payment, and no money or goods are being exchanged here) I periodically do videos about things I think are useful, or might be of interest to my audience, and yes, I try to showcase smaller British manufacturers and makers because I like to ‘fly the flag’ especially in these uncertain times. If you check the back catalogue you’ll see videos on products from Superior Levels, Ooznest, The Block Scribe, Benchdogs, Swanky Scribe, and many others. Do they benefit from being showcased here? I sure hope so.
Like you, I am also a bespoke cabinet maker of 20 years, (Rycotewood-city&guilds1-3 - 3 year apprentice+decades in the trade).
The worktop isn't a jig as such but rather a flat surface to aid biscuit jointing with a 90° upstand to stop the carcase side from slipping away from the machine, think of it as a more substantial reduced depth bench with a 90° back.
I had subscribed for along time and watched many of your videos previously, hence my disappointment with this particular video.
I'm not commenting to disregard this method i.e wrong application of Domino as others have also commented or the reference issue the jig creates but rather that there is a more accurate (on the plane that you need the accuracy)/cheaper/faster solution.
I feel this channel has a rather unhealthy obsession with this particular machine now (yes I have one with the aftermarket depth extension bits to overcome it's depth issues when a machined on bead is in the way of the female mating surface on the styles and use other festool equipment on a daily basis). I'm also a champion of British products (I use wadkin, Clifton, Robert Sorby not lie Nelson or non Brit equivalents where possible and warranted).
My use of the word promotion wasn't intended to suggest payment in any form but I can see the inevitability of CZcams paranoia though.
I unsubscribed after my comment anyway so wish you a good day and no further comments shall be made on this channel.
are you a qualified joiner, or self taught, many thanks colin
Self taught.
Very good skill level your work is very good you have very good in-depth knowledge I'm a software handyman and was looking to improve myself CZcams is fantastic for training carry on the good work