What Is Chain Stretch? What causes it?

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  • čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
  • I explain what "chain stretch" is, or rather what it isn't, and show what causes it.
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  • @RJTheBikeGuy
    @RJTheBikeGuy  Před 2 lety +19

    For more bike repair videos hit the subscribe button 🛑 and click the notification bell ► bit.ly/SubRJTheBikeGuy

  • @JoelZieve
    @JoelZieve Před 2 lety +178

    Lots of people have tried to explain what chain stretch is. This is by FAR the best explanation I've seen. Thanks RJ!

    • @christo930
      @christo930 Před 2 lety +3

      Legs definitely do not have the kind of power it takes to actually stretch steel, even mild steel.

    • @LasseGreiner
      @LasseGreiner Před 2 lety

      Agreed. One consequence of wear is a higher bending of the chain. This results in poor shifting. In my experience this is more convincing to many to exchange their chain.

  • @joekahno
    @joekahno Před 2 lety +20

    Long ago, when I was putting a lot of miles on '70s era motorcycles, I bought bulk chain from the local farm supply. My friends kept telling me it was somehow inferior to what they got from the dealer. The thing is, while I was wearing out four $7 chains, they were wearing out two $30 chains and a $150 set of sprockets. They were slow to replace that expensive chain when it started to get worn.

  • @cibatocibs7946
    @cibatocibs7946 Před 2 lety +47

    That was a great explanation. I knew about chain stretch for years, only as a term. Very educational. Thank you RJ!

  • @gr8n10city3
    @gr8n10city3 Před 2 lety +7

    Great depiction! As they say, you know you understand something fully when you can explain it so a 5 year old can understand.

  • @snakerstran9101
    @snakerstran9101 Před 2 lety +17

    Great video. Also important to note that those moving contact area's are where the lube is needed most. So many people tend to think like they need to be "painting the plates", but its the contact points that count.

  • @rb-ex
    @rb-ex Před 2 lety +3

    that's a good explanation, and the wood mock-up may help correct those who might believe chain stretch is the steel stretching under stress or repeated use. however, i would clarify that serious hill climbing is going to cause chain 'stretch' much more rapidly than normal riding. this is because friction at the wear points you've shown us increases with pressure. so i would say the factors that affect chain wear are 1) cleanliness, 2) lube, 3) riding style, and 4) metallurgy of the chain material

  • @redtirepump
    @redtirepump Před 2 lety +2

    Wow - that's the best explanation I've ever seen. Love the wooden mock up example to show what's really happening.

  • @thinkclear3834
    @thinkclear3834 Před 2 lety

    For a new person into MTB this was the best easiest explanation than other videos and straight to the point . Other videos took 3-4 min before they start to explain shit

  • @Zlotac
    @Zlotac Před 2 lety +8

    That explains a lot! I was arguing with a friend that there is no way it can actually "stretch" , but he was adamant that the term is correct. :)

    • @markholm7050
      @markholm7050 Před 2 lety +4

      For chains to actually stretch, the tension in the chain would have to exceed the yield strength of the steel. One could calculate this, but there is an easier observation that demonstrates it is not happening. Steel that is repeatedly taken past its yield strength, particularly if their is any corrosive environment involved, will eventually develop stress fractures and fail. Chain “stretch” is common, but outright chain failure is rare. If chains were actually stretching, we should have frequent reports of heavier, stronger riders snapping chains, particularly those that use the lightest weight chains, in the lowest gears, pushing up the steepest hills in seaside or wet climates.

    • @smashyrashy
      @smashyrashy Před 2 lety

      @@markholm7050 stop showing off

    • @bob-ny6kn
      @bob-ny6kn Před 2 lety

      Maybe he was just "pulling your leg?" Enjoy. Tip your wait staff. G'nite ladies and gents.

    • @bob-ny6kn
      @bob-ny6kn Před 2 lety

      @@markholm7050 "Riveting" story.

    • @badger0888
      @badger0888 Před 2 lety

      It’s called Chain "Stretch" but this isn't the best nomenclature which causes confusion. Chain wear is a more accurate description

  • @Flederratte
    @Flederratte Před 2 lety +8

    Beautiful demonstration!
    I actually have one chain with wear so bad like demonstrated here. The casette on one ring is already badly damaged.

  • @bauke-LV426
    @bauke-LV426 Před 2 lety +3

    Brilliant. I’ve never gone through the theory behind chain-wear tools. Didn’t even know what the tool is supposed to measure. But this is a video à la RJ The Bike Guy: so clear, no fancy talking, sales talk. And the mockup: an image says more than a 1000 words. Thanks RJ! 👍

  • @MrAmorti
    @MrAmorti Před 2 lety +6

    Excellent visual aid.
    Also very relevant to motorcycle chains, where it's easier/more comfortable to believe your 200hp superbike is stretching the chain, than that your lack of maintenance is sending it to an early grave.

  • @craigscott3133
    @craigscott3133 Před 2 lety +4

    This is a great illustration of why you have to keep your chain clean and lubed. Thanks, RJ!

  • @maxmillertime
    @maxmillertime Před 2 lety +4

    Wow! RJ you have moved to new level here. You made props! This is some Alton Brown level action of explanation. Hands down the best video on chain stretch on CZcams!

  • @keithschrack
    @keithschrack Před 2 lety +11

    I love it! I built the same sort of visual aid for my mechanics class two years ago. You put a lot more work into your wooden example--mine is just coroplast 'plates' and a binding post.

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  Před 2 lety +6

      I had scrap wood and a scroll saw. And a drill press, and arbor bits. I actually have a lot of non-bike tools too. :D

  • @SnootchieBootchies27
    @SnootchieBootchies27 Před 2 lety +1

    There is also a small amount of wear on the rollers from meshing with the gears. But this is the pefect explanation for what people call "stretch"

    • @rolandberendonck3900
      @rolandberendonck3900 Před rokem

      Very true. You can even see this if you have cleaned a worn out chain. The rollers are not round any more.

  • @SirAlmightyGamer
    @SirAlmightyGamer Před 2 lety

    Never have I clicked on a video faster. Another masterpiece 👍

  • @biketothetop
    @biketothetop Před 2 lety +2

    Nice explanation and having the large chain model was a great idea. It's too bad people started calling it chain stretch to begin with... a misnomer!

  • @tonyconnors1342
    @tonyconnors1342 Před rokem +1

    I never go anywhere else for help always easy to understand thank you.

  • @janksowksi967
    @janksowksi967 Před 2 lety +2

    Best teacher ever ! Watching you since 3 or 4 years, sir. :)

  • @Desi365
    @Desi365 Před 2 lety +1

    I appreciate the effort and time needed to build those plywood oversized chain links. A drawing could have worked but no you went the extra mile, thank you for that.

  • @johnhayes1641
    @johnhayes1641 Před 2 lety

    Great illustration of chain “stretch”.

  • @chris1275cc
    @chris1275cc Před 2 lety +3

    Great explanation of chain "stretch" one thing that should be mentioned because so many people fall foul of this: *ALL 11 speed and over systems no matter how many chainrings and all very wide range MTB 1x systems (11-48+)* MUST have the chain replaced at 0.5% if you go to 0.75 on these systems you might as well replace the cassette at the same time.
    Systems with a cassette of 10 cogs or less and low range 1x systems are fine to 0.75 and the cassette is ruined at 1%.

    • @MrFitness94
      @MrFitness94 Před 2 lety

      Ahh so that’s why my 10 year old chain works fine on my 3x7

    • @chris1275cc
      @chris1275cc Před 2 lety

      @@MrFitness94 Yeah, not only does fewer gears/smaller range mean your chain can take more wear before it needs replacing, it will take way longer to reach that point. Also what can happen with older systems is that the whole drivetrain kind of wears in unison and continues to work even when it has gone past even the 1% mark. The only trade off is you might find when the chain does eventually fail you will have to replace the rest of the drivetrain because the teeth profiles on your cassette/freewheel chainrings and even jockey wheels are no longer a match for any new chain in existence LOL.

    • @MrFitness94
      @MrFitness94 Před 2 lety

      @@chris1275cc i can believe it. The whole drivetrain is probably cooked but it works amazing.

  • @thaleshful
    @thaleshful Před 6 měsíci

    The easiets way to explain I could imagine! thank you!

  • @eddierivera7803
    @eddierivera7803 Před 2 lety +1

    RJ that’s the way you explain chain wear.I watched even though I already knew but always enjoy your videos you always go that extra mile like with the mock up.

  • @jgullave16
    @jgullave16 Před 2 lety

    Great demo!

  • @Shambolicoholic
    @Shambolicoholic Před 2 lety

    Love the mock up. Great vid!

  • @bigmac3006
    @bigmac3006 Před rokem +1

    Fantastic explanation! Great job.

  • @andresbonelli1826
    @andresbonelli1826 Před 2 lety

    Great explanation, thanks!!

  • @pewp43
    @pewp43 Před 2 lety

    No wonder my chains wear out faster in the winter when the roads are wet and muddy. Great explanation.

  • @frankmaresca7252
    @frankmaresca7252 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for the information have a great 2022.

  • @motaparatu
    @motaparatu Před 2 lety

    very informative video. Thanks!

  • @a.r.moyapapitawaira7369

    Fantastic explanation!

  • @IvansBikesBmws
    @IvansBikesBmws Před 2 lety

    Nice to see ya back the bike guy.

  • @notanomad9320
    @notanomad9320 Před 2 lety +11

    Great video on the explanation of chain "wear". I would add that if a chain has extreme wear and is replaced with a new one, chances are the freewheel or cassette should be replaced at the same time or you'll get chain skipping especially on the smaller cogs where there is less wrap around on the cogs.
    Some people falsely claim that new shift and brake cables "stretch" that is wrong, what happens is cables have to seat and compress the housing several times which sometimes requires you to adjust the cable anchor clamp bolt until it stops. Take care!

  • @user-ni7ui7hs8c
    @user-ni7ui7hs8c Před 2 lety

    This is the best explanation I’ve found so far! Very helpful

  • @nomadben
    @nomadben Před 2 lety

    Awesome explanation RJ!

  • @anthonyschmieder3174
    @anthonyschmieder3174 Před 2 lety

    Great illustration! Thanks RJ.

  • @dprcontracting6299
    @dprcontracting6299 Před 2 lety +1

    Very informative and great use of a mock up. Thank you Bike Guy.

  • @syopa1
    @syopa1 Před 2 lety +4

    Well explained and demonstrated

  • @BIGTONY2132001
    @BIGTONY2132001 Před 2 lety

    Excellent explanation! Thank you

  • @BoloGrubb
    @BoloGrubb Před 2 lety

    nice explanation. Thank you

  • @namboozleUK
    @namboozleUK Před 2 lety

    Great simple explanation!

  • @carly200
    @carly200 Před 2 lety

    great video, great explanation!

  • @briandavies2833
    @briandavies2833 Před 2 lety

    A great explanation. Thank you!

  • @doylerabjohn3435
    @doylerabjohn3435 Před rokem

    Excellent explanation of a worn chain

  • @mechanizatorius
    @mechanizatorius Před 2 lety

    Very good explanation!

  • @chicobikeboard1897
    @chicobikeboard1897 Před 2 lety

    Good job. You nailed it. Thanks for the video.....

  • @________2705
    @________2705 Před 2 lety

    very well explained.... nice chain mock-up!

  • @LorenScott69
    @LorenScott69 Před 2 lety

    Excellent video and explanation.

  • @kenmorris5512
    @kenmorris5512 Před 2 lety

    Excellent explanation RJ. Thanks!

  • @carlk1183
    @carlk1183 Před 2 lety

    What a great way to show and explain!

  • @ThePedro8-25-78
    @ThePedro8-25-78 Před 2 lety +1

    Great description and visual of the topic!👍🏻

  • @vvmmm1
    @vvmmm1 Před rokem

    Great explanation on chain wear. Thank you.

  • @billinhouston3291
    @billinhouston3291 Před 2 lety

    Great explanation and demonstration!

  • @ajchaskar
    @ajchaskar Před 2 lety

    Very nicely explained! Thank you 👍🏼

  • @desert.mantis
    @desert.mantis Před 2 lety

    great visual explanation of chain stretch, rj!

  • @Memento86Mori
    @Memento86Mori Před 2 lety

    Thx for the video man and happy New year

  • @schistopatel
    @schistopatel Před 2 lety

    Excellent explanation, as always

  • @thezenboy
    @thezenboy Před 2 lety

    Brilliance! Well done, sir.

  • @medsker007
    @medsker007 Před 2 lety

    great info thanks

  • @jamesenloe2791
    @jamesenloe2791 Před 2 lety +1

    I was one of those folks that thought I was putting down so much power I was stretching the chain. This video corrected by delusions of grandeur. Thanks for dragging me back to planet earth.
    Seriously….great video. I especially liked the visual you made. GCN would of simply made a fancy graphic, but I prefer the practical effects.

  • @LuisManuelHdez
    @LuisManuelHdez Před rokem

    Great video!!! Thank u. Simple but very well explained.

  • @alexandervonbraun
    @alexandervonbraun Před 2 lety

    A brilliant explanation.

  • @225rip
    @225rip Před 2 lety

    Excellent video.

  • @giuliospinelli6958
    @giuliospinelli6958 Před 2 lety

    Great video! Thanks

  • @user-is3jy6fn4h
    @user-is3jy6fn4h Před rokem

    Your videos very informative.Keep going on.Good luck.

  • @Straightbangin1979
    @Straightbangin1979 Před 2 lety

    Best explanation ever. Thank you

  • @rochester212
    @rochester212 Před 2 lety

    Best explanation on chain wear. Thanks for the effort!

  • @AceSkates
    @AceSkates Před 2 lety +5

    We stopped using that term in my bike shop because people would think about it too litterally, its wear on the chain, not stretch.

    • @user-cn4tw6ox5b
      @user-cn4tw6ox5b Před 2 lety +1

      Same here, there were far too many pedantic people willing to argue over semantics.

  • @timjacob991
    @timjacob991 Před 2 lety +1

    Perfect explanation

  • @jangyman
    @jangyman Před 2 lety

    Nice explanation ...great hand-made model!

  • @tmayberry7559
    @tmayberry7559 Před 2 lety

    Thanks Regular Guy J the bike guy for all the great video's

  • @recstoppauseplay
    @recstoppauseplay Před 10 měsíci

    Marvellous video demonstration and mock up model! Thanks RJ.

  • @OliMar1970
    @OliMar1970 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent explanation, the best I've seen so far.

  • @MeruAileron
    @MeruAileron Před 2 lety +3

    I'm always learning stuff from this channel. Thanks RJ.

  • @iamavegetable1936
    @iamavegetable1936 Před 2 lety

    Very great explanation and demonstration, thanks. Have a nice day.

  • @m.t2535
    @m.t2535 Před 2 lety

    I’m glad to see you getting your hands dirty. Most CZcams mechanics wear rubber gloves to keep their delicate hands clean. Thanks RJ for keeping it real and very informative.

  • @badger0888
    @badger0888 Před 2 lety

    Great illustration with your wooden pieces. Keep up the great work as always

  • @rixretros
    @rixretros Před 2 lety

    Way to go, RJ !!! As usual, a "picture" (or model) is worth a thousand words. So, if someone asks me how a chain can "stretch", I'll just refer him to your vid.

  • @orionpatrial
    @orionpatrial Před 2 lety +1

    Nice job RJ.
    Thank you for the explanation🔧🔧🔧

  • @davidpietrowicz7069
    @davidpietrowicz7069 Před 2 lety

    Good Work. Thank you

  • @mrpappagone
    @mrpappagone Před 2 lety

    Best explanation !

  • @RjRocker87
    @RjRocker87 Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks for posting this. Very good demo and very informative. Love your woodshop example!

  • @AmandaFurbeck
    @AmandaFurbeck Před 2 lety

    Great video!

  • @derekbmartin
    @derekbmartin Před 2 lety +1

    I really appreciate the effort you put in to make this video, very helpful!

  • @robloxuanfootballer6219

    Such a great explanation.
    Thanks RJ. 👌
    Keep up the fantastic work. 👏

  • @awantamta
    @awantamta Před 2 lety

    Superb explanation

  • @davidward4329
    @davidward4329 Před 2 lety +1

    Well done , best video ever on the chain stretch , enjoy the effects you put in . 👍🏾👍🏾

  • @Ronin_Texas
    @Ronin_Texas Před 2 lety

    Another excellent video RJ, I never saw a better explanation. Thanks 👍👍

  • @germaincousineau8608
    @germaincousineau8608 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the video👍

  • @paulkruglov7280
    @paulkruglov7280 Před 2 lety

    Very well explained!! Great presentation on a common problem. Keep up the vids.

  • @brickcity9mm896
    @brickcity9mm896 Před 2 lety

    That cleared it up for me. Thank you

  • @christopherharmon9336
    @christopherharmon9336 Před 2 lety

    Best explanation ever!

  • @namesbond4332
    @namesbond4332 Před 2 lety

    Been searching for this specific content. Thanks alot

  • @CT-hm1hh
    @CT-hm1hh Před 2 lety

    Great visual aid, clarifies stretch easily

  • @austingode
    @austingode Před 2 lety +1

    Just fantastic, sublime , RJ is simply the best in his game 🙏

  • @prostreet9149
    @prostreet9149 Před 2 lety

    I agree with Joel, by far the best video explaining chain stretch thank you

  • @user-ro9jg8yc2q
    @user-ro9jg8yc2q Před 2 lety

    Thanks, that was a very good explanation and illustration. 💯