The Swansong of the Steel Bells of Moseley St Mary, Birmingham

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
  • (To begin with, I have no idea why the camera has included a magical rainbow of colours across the picture!)
    The small tower of St Marys, Moseley is the only suriving part of the medieval church, which was rebuilt on a much more massive scale in the late 19th century by the local architect Chatwin (who is also responsible for the majority of St Martins in the Bullring church).
    There were three bells in this tower until 1874. A local man acquired a set of 8 steel bells, and the three bells were transferred to the nearby new church of St Annes.
    The steel bells were not rung full circle for the majority of the 20th century. In 1990, voluntary work began on restoring the derelict installation to some sort of ringability, using second hand and reused fittings in places. This restoration was achieved and they were rung for the first time in 82 years on Easter Sunday 1991.
    A new local band was formed to ring them, and the band thrived despite the difficulty of the bells. However, everyone acknowledged that the difficulty and poor tone of the bells meant that their long term existence was not ideal.
    The idea of replacing them brewed for a time, before a fundraising campaign was launched to raise £140,000 for a completely new installation.
    And here we are today-
    The work to remove the bells and frame completely from the tower will finish next week (mid January 2012) and the new installation will be finished later this year.
    The back three of the new 18cwt ten are at present in the church - they are the back three of a redundant Gillett and Johnston chime from Greenock in Scotland. 7 lighter bells will be cast by Taylors, to the same profile, to create the ten.
    The steel bells are destined for the Swan Bell Tower in Perth, Western Australia, where there is a growing clock and bell collection.
    I am sad to see the last of an unusual and interesting bell installation, but in the long run their continued use was not conduicive to a fruitful local ringing culture.

Komentáře • 57

  • @irkibby
    @irkibby  Před 12 lety +5

    @arnoldusglocke There are now 17 sets of steel bells hung for full circle ringing. Only 8 of them are working. There are other chiming bells which are steel in other churches.

  • @irkibby
    @irkibby  Před 12 lety +3

    @8spliced I will miss them.

  • @ProfMoose
    @ProfMoose Před 12 lety +5

    They should be restored to ringing condition (somewhere a long way from any habitation) as a warning to others not to experiment with steel bells.

  • @irkibby
    @irkibby  Před 12 lety +4

    @simonbellringer It is the 7th... it makes an impressive noise.

    • @RingerJamie
      @RingerJamie Před 4 lety +1

      Where’s the 8th

    • @titmouse-distribution
      @titmouse-distribution Před 4 lety +2

      It Is In The Tower, But It's Currently Unringable.

    • @AshleyMonck
      @AshleyMonck Před 2 lety +1

      @@RingerJamie in a back garden in Somerset with the other 7. All 8 bells just sitting there rusting away

  • @irkibby
    @irkibby  Před 12 lety +4

    @timmeh1507 No, they are distinctive, and the neighbours can look forward to listening to an excellent peal of bells.
    One must remember that the restoration to ringability of these steel bells was the genesis of a local band, the eventual creation of a ring of six at St Annes, and finally the plan for replacement and improvement into what will no doubt become an even more proactive centre of ringing within Birmingham.

  • @franmcghee4919
    @franmcghee4919 Před 4 lety +2

    I think the bells made out of bronze, copper and tin sound a bit better. And you can here on one of the bells the clapper bouncing of the bell a bit so it makes the bell sound twice in a row.

  • @CammyTheCamera
    @CammyTheCamera Před rokem

    I’m gonna miss these bells

  • @lunaticonthegrass111
    @lunaticonthegrass111 Před 12 lety +2

    @simonbellringer Thanks for the explanation!

  • @benjaminvallejo6695
    @benjaminvallejo6695 Před měsícem

    i think you already know but the bells are gonna get new fittings and a attempt at tuning some of the bells but they sound just fine like this because of historical reasons and hung somewhere else

  • @irkibby
    @irkibby  Před 12 lety +3

    @mittagsglocke Haha, my camera is getting old. It must be because of this.

  • @kennedibodally8486
    @kennedibodally8486 Před 8 lety +1

    these bells send shiver's down my spine

  • @Bellringercameron
    @Bellringercameron Před 11 měsíci

    Bouncy clapper on the treble

  • @arnoldusglocke
    @arnoldusglocke Před 12 lety +2

    Excellent video, strange music... They don't sound better than Upper Bavarian steel bells from the 1940ies. But I didn't know about their existence in England, it's surprising. Are there even more? Thanks a lot!

  • @awesome1334
    @awesome1334 Před 8 lety +2

    3:28 the stay of the top bell

  • @abbeymaddox3114
    @abbeymaddox3114 Před 8 lety +2

    i love the sound of them lol creepy & awesome at the same time lol +1 like

  • @irkibby
    @irkibby  Před 12 lety +3

    @elafonisi08 They make Grimsby sound good, don't they?

    • @nord1486
      @nord1486 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, but these people can actually ring

  • @jasonvenner5027
    @jasonvenner5027 Před 5 lety +2

    That was a bit dangerous at 5.49 when the camera was close to the bell when it was swinging someone could of got hurt

    • @irkibby
      @irkibby  Před 5 lety +1

      I was stood in a safe place and I'm still here...

  • @fartwell2000
    @fartwell2000 Před 11 lety +2

    You can't have heard the steel back six at Hale, Cheshire or the six at Ingleton, North Yorkshire. Not all steel bells are bad.

  • @drkasafir
    @drkasafir Před 11 lety +4

    I live in Moseley village and those bells are still ringing to this very day, they still sound awful.

  • @jondoes8222
    @jondoes8222 Před 8 lety +2

    Sounds to me like they were not properly tuned. I hope they were not destroyed. There are churches who need a lone bell for call to church. I hope they donated them and not scrapped them. I have a 33 inch steel bell that has a beautiful ring to it. It was cast by Goulds MFG in the 1800s in Senneca Falls New York USA. Im sure they will be replaced with bronze ones but wow what a cost.

    • @irkibby
      @irkibby  Před 8 lety

      they were tuned properly. The problem with steel bells is that over time they rusted, and because that rusting changed the thickness of the bells the tuning went bad.

    • @jondoes8222
      @jondoes8222 Před 8 lety

      ok I see. bronze is the best

    • @dwigley1977
      @dwigley1977 Před 8 lety

      No they have not been destroyed, they live on in the back garden of a ringer who lives in Somerset! One idea is to build an East Burgholt type 'shed' over a pit and then with the ringers in the pit and the bells over head.

    • @dwigley1977
      @dwigley1977 Před 8 lety

      No they have not been destroyed, they live on in the back garden of a ringer who lives in Somerset! One idea is to build an East Burgholt type 'shed' over a pit and then with the ringers in the pit and the bells over head.

    • @annapowell6641
      @annapowell6641 Před 8 lety

      +Ron Delby i quiet like them they sound pritty ok dispite them out of tune they sould like drums

  • @toastedbutter4316
    @toastedbutter4316 Před 3 lety +1

    @irkibby I ring at the bellower in Perth what do u mean about the steel bells being destined for the tower cuase i haven't seen anything

  • @SantaRudolph-ef6lv
    @SantaRudolph-ef6lv Před 2 měsíci

    One thing I don’t get is why did the old steel bells have two trebles that sound the same it just doesn’t seem right.

    • @irkibby
      @irkibby  Před 2 měsíci

      @@SantaRudolph-ef6lv because the notes changed when the bells rusted

    • @SantaRudolph-ef6lv
      @SantaRudolph-ef6lv Před 2 měsíci

      @@irkibby ok.

    • @SantaRudolph-ef6lv
      @SantaRudolph-ef6lv Před 2 měsíci

      @@irkibby well I’m starting to learn to ring at a church called St. George’s in Hyde greater Manchester.

  • @simonbellringer
    @simonbellringer Před 12 lety +1

    @lunaticonthegrass111 It is the front 7. The tenor has been unringable since about 2008 (I think!!) as it jumped off its gudgeons during ringing and has been lying on the floor of its pit ever since!! Thats about as unringable as you can get!!! Watch from about 1:50 onwards!!

  • @timmeh1507
    @timmeh1507 Před 12 lety +1

    Shouldn't 'bells' be in inverted commas? I should imagine the neighbours will be relieved.

  • @RiccardoRivi
    @RiccardoRivi Před 7 lety +2

    there are some problems with colours atthe begining of the video

    • @tuatara77
      @tuatara77 Před 5 lety

      yes, he mentioned that in the first lines of the description.

  • @ProfMoose
    @ProfMoose Před 11 lety +1

    I haven't. I would like too. Unfortunately I suspect only the worst examples find their way on to youtube.

  • @8spliced
    @8spliced Před 12 lety

    These will not be missed!!! lol

  • @lunaticonthegrass111
    @lunaticonthegrass111 Před 12 lety +1

    Why are they ringing the back (or front) seven?

  • @simonbellringer
    @simonbellringer Před 12 lety +1

    They actually sounded OK when you were in the belfry!! But which is the one at about 3:05 becuase it sounds abismal on its own!!!

  • @watchdog8967
    @watchdog8967 Před 2 lety

    how did the tenor fall to the ground?

  • @ameliaviolet8691
    @ameliaviolet8691 Před 9 lety +1

    why did the church replace this steal ring ? i so love them but they are odd

  • @jesusemilianorodriguezrome7459

    What kind of church is this?

  • @mittagsglocke
    @mittagsglocke Před 12 lety

    Why are the colours in the picture??

  • @pretorium
    @pretorium Před 11 lety +2

    Undesirable...... unsatisfactory - I could use other words...definitely not Ho Ho Ho.... more like No No Nooooooooo!!

  • @ninasewell6850
    @ninasewell6850 Před 6 lety +1

    they sound terrible

  • @sydneycoper2630
    @sydneycoper2630 Před 10 lety

    Ew the sound is horrible! don't like them no wonder they were replaced.