These are powered by 351 Clevelands with 180 degree headers which gives them that nice sound. Power is essentially what Ford/Mercury racers where running in NASCAR during the mid-70's. Think oversized Boss 302 and you are pretty close. Different block but nearly identical heads.
the fin on those look a lot better,than those big wings on some of them,i always liked them without the wings,until i saw these,it reminds me,more of a mucsle car fin,
@hipcat13 This particular car or Pantera's in general? If you are saying in general, you are incorrect. They were production Ford heads, depending on what year produced the casting would vary accordingly. Same heads were available on US and other cars with the 351C. The early years were standard 351C 4V engines (4 venturi is what 4v means) I think the later ones used Australian sourced Ford engines.
Can someone tell me more about the original Pantera's that ran this spoiler outfit? I've seen it listed as a group 4, but I've seen many group 4's with no spoiler kit as well. I'm interested in things like: exact type, year raced, engine specs (440-470bhp?), weight (1120kg, 1250kg?). Any help would be greatly appreciated.
its a Ford 351 V8. The GT40s used some different sizes but I dont beleive the 5.8L was one of them. These things were imported for about 4 or 5 years into the US. The early ones were very poor on the quality leve. Elvis reportedly fired a gun into his Pantera one day after he couldnt get it started :)
Yes to the ZF. A great german engineered piece of equipment that if im not mistaken was (still is?) used in the excellent American sports car, Corvette.
@hipcat13 Sorry for my mistakes. Thanks for your info. I was really questioning Dylan's reference to a latin contribution. By the way, I'm not sure about registering the cars when they were new, but I have been to Road America and Mid Ohio and Mosport several times for vintage events and have seen many legally plated GT40's. I thought the whole idea back then was to race a street legal car. Hell I've seen a plate on a Lola!
@DylanRhoads7 Latin? The car was parented by Ford and designed in Britain. With respect to the Corvette, the Pantera is the quintessential American supercar!
@abedanielspictures What? Parented by Ford? This car was already on the drawing board at DeTomaso when Ford saw it. DeTomaso always used Ford engines for the most part. It wasn't designed in Britain, it was designed by Tom Tijarda at Ghia in Italy. You are getting this car confused with the GT40 which began exactly how you said. Ford partnered with DeTomaso and the Pantera when they couldn't make the GT40 streetable.
Pretty sure these are the best-looking Panteras I've ever seen.
These are powered by 351 Clevelands with 180 degree headers which gives them that nice sound. Power is essentially what Ford/Mercury racers where running in NASCAR during the mid-70's. Think oversized Boss 302 and you are pretty close. Different block but nearly identical heads.
Wow... just amazing. Thanks for sharing.
Beautiful cars, I wish they still made them.
the fin on those look a lot better,than those big wings on some of them,i always liked them without the wings,until i saw these,it reminds me,more of a mucsle car fin,
it' s one of my favourite cars!
these cars are in GT Legends PC game!
@hipcat13 This particular car or Pantera's in general? If you are saying in general, you are incorrect. They were production Ford heads, depending on what year produced the casting would vary accordingly. Same heads were available on US and other cars with the 351C. The early years were standard 351C 4V engines (4 venturi is what 4v means) I think the later ones used Australian sourced Ford engines.
this car sounds like a wild bull...amazing
It is worth mentioning both GT40 and Pantera had the same ZF transaxle (5 speed gearbox+differential)
so sick... what the bad asses
that sound!!!!!
Can someone tell me more about the original Pantera's that ran this spoiler outfit? I've seen it listed as a group 4, but I've seen many group 4's with no spoiler kit as well. I'm interested in things like: exact type, year raced, engine specs (440-470bhp?), weight (1120kg, 1250kg?). Any help would be greatly appreciated.
oops my bad, i should know i want a cleveland in my car eventually, but your right the majority had 351C's but i think a handful had Windsors.
that 351W sure sounds nice
I miss the Cleveland "crackle" since I went to a bunch of snakes exhaust on my `72 race car, but geez they sound good too!!
its a Ford 351 V8. The GT40s used some different sizes but I dont beleive the 5.8L was one of them. These things were imported for about 4 or 5 years into the US. The early ones were very poor on the quality leve. Elvis reportedly fired a gun into his Pantera one day after he couldnt get it started :)
Yes to the ZF. A great german engineered piece of equipment that if im not mistaken was (still is?) used in the excellent American sports car, Corvette.
i have a question. whats the difference between the GR4, GT4, GP4 and GR3 models of the Pantera?
recently found out about these cars, how made these?
@hipcat13 Sorry for my mistakes. Thanks for your info. I was really questioning Dylan's reference to a latin contribution. By the way, I'm not sure about registering the cars when they were new, but I have been to Road America and Mid Ohio and Mosport several times for vintage events and have seen many legally plated GT40's. I thought the whole idea back then was to race a street legal car. Hell I've seen a plate on a Lola!
@DylanRhoads7 Latin? The car was parented by Ford and designed in Britain. With respect to the Corvette, the Pantera is the quintessential American supercar!
Many of Ford's transmissions are still built by ZF too.
Woow
Crazy, gorgeous cars. What does the crossed-out number mean?
That's racing
is it the same motor from the Ford Gt's?
@abedanielspictures What? Parented by Ford? This car was already on the drawing board at DeTomaso when Ford saw it. DeTomaso always used Ford engines for the most part. It wasn't designed in Britain, it was designed by Tom Tijarda at Ghia in Italy. You are getting this car confused with the GT40 which began exactly how you said. Ford partnered with DeTomaso and the Pantera when they couldn't make the GT40 streetable.
@abedanielspictures Cite the British link?
@kblackav8or Actually the heads are special to the Pantera.
aren't radial tires better, than bias-ply?
did these have straight pipes?
What do you think? ;)
an italian company called Detomaso, with a ford motor
damn was that second one supercharged?
Many Euro Racing Clevelands run a 180° Flat Plane crankshaft and a split-timed camshaft, hense the insane throttle response and Ferrari type sound.
Detroit horsepowers, wont stop.
Sounds mean!
W?
they came with Cs
thats true LATIN MUSCLE
Sounds like a rotary and a V8 had a baby
this isnt a race its just cars coming off the parking spots.....
elles n'ont rien a envier aux ferrari...