Click on the link below for my 6 years (almost 8 years now as of this comment) later explanation/response video. czcams.com/video/NWvufb8riv4/video.html
1. Loud music while driving and cornering quickly, FAULT 2. Driving fast in a shitbox while female present, MAJOR FAULT 3. Going wide mid corner, YIKES Absolutely no respect
This is a great example of learning how weight transfer works. Braking into a corner is useful to get some slip angle to aid turn in (small slide not noticeable). This guy holds the brakes in so deep that it was only a matter of time when the front wheels have the weight of the car over them that the rears get light and will snap on you. Good car control is like treating the car’s roll like it’s balancing on a pin head, smooth gentle weight shifting.
@@NatVirgo same principle as lift off oversteer because that’s when weight that was shifted backwards under acceleration suddenly jumps forwards but FWD cars don’t shift weight back like that. Lift off oversteer is a RWD trait
@@pregnantyellowfish I disagree. Lift off oversteer is extremely common and potentially dangerous on numerous FWD cars. Most of the RWD cars are much more stable releasing the throttle at corner entry than FWD. And I speak of experience. Release the throttle in a high speed corner in a Megane 3 RS and you're in big trouble (despite the superb chassis)... Release it in an M3/350Z/Camaro/Corvette, way less dangerous...
Just set the video speed to 0.25 at 00:56 and you'll see how amazing your skills were doing.. You managed to counter-steer 1 full turn above what you needed... Full on panic mode. Your luck was amazing that no one was coming..
@@tarrenituptv4121 no. That's like people who say they drive better while stoned. Music, even at a moderate volume, can decrease your reaction time by something like 20%
@@Longshlongjon22 well with Integras, they're front wheel drive so its a little easier to control them, which is one of the reasons why front wheel drive cars are pretty much killing the game right now in time attack, but if it was a rear wheel drive car the back end of the car would kick out more easily since the power is going to the rear wheels
@@aldolizalde481 that slide wasnt due to power and apparently in a situation like that saving it with RWD would be far more easy, because RWD isn't as snappy
@@MatVeiQaaa i never said it was due to power, I just said that with a rwd car since it is powered by the rear wheels, it would've kicked the rear end out more easily and most likely spun out
Every time I see this kinds of videos and you immediately see them feeding the wheel like it's the first time they're driving a car, you know you're in for a treat!
@@Uno_Floydd Any car can oversteer in the right circumstances. It's only when it comes to oversteering while accelerating that you need power at the rear wheels. In this case, it was a "lift off oversteer". He revved up the engine really high and then lift off the acceleration instantly right before the corner. This caused a powerful engine braking which in turn shifts the car's weight to the front axle. The rear axle didn't have much weight pressing down on it, so the rear wheels lost traction in the corner.
@@Mamsaturatdevoi everything you just said I know already. I didn't say I didn't understand how it worked. I was surprised it happened to him considering usually I can't get lightweight fwd cars to lift-over unless I have built enough speed.
It blows my mind people actually drive like this on the main road knowing other people with families are driving on there… Go to a track if you wanna drive like this
This driver is lucky, he doesn't know what is doing. Chasing another car down twisty road in a manual takes skills and concentration. His fate is sealed at 0:50. He is going into a mid-speed right corner, instead brake downshift to 2nd, he think it's okay to ride it out on 4th. when the oversteer kicks in, keep on stepping on the brake and can't recover because the cars in a gear too high. He's only lucky that he can turn the wheel fast enough and there is no on coming traffic. Don't do this kind of crap especially you have a passenger...
He was on the brakes and took at shitty line. At that speed he put the weight to the front and when he tried correcting his shitty line the rear end came loose. Almost did a dynamic drift
Its not only that he corner with a high gear what makes him not beeing able to correct drift. Its that he stayed on the brake the wholeeeee time ! Wrong wrong wrong. He should had let brakes by the time he felt the rear beeing light and i think he would be able to corner right
All these comments are just “driver” mad lib and mean nothing at all. Doesn’t matter at all what gear the car was in. Dude was simply too deep into the brakes with too much steering angle. Load was biased to the front so he lost the rear. If he would have come of the brakes a little sooner, he may would have been just fine. His foot remains over the pedal so it’s kind of hard to tell whether he actually continues to apply braking, but I also suspect a little more counter steer a little sooner while coming off the brakes could have made saving it a little less dramatic. Would just have had to be prepared the straighten the wheel quickly once the rear caught again after the weight transferred back.
@@Findmealife I mean kinda what i said. But i think he stayed on the brake whole time, so just a let go from brakes and no counter steering at all before it complete lost would saved the day...
I'm glad my reflexes/muscle memory tell me to not brake hard in a corner, even though I don't have that much experience, it's just something I learned when I was young, and now I apply it without thinking.
Really appreciate your follow-up video. You should be proud of not only how far you've come but also your ability to own up to your mistakes. Your ability to be humble is rare and your humility rarer. Thank you.
@@seniorbuttocksbiggusdickus7147 *laughs in e36 assembled by 15 different e36 chasis, 4 different coilover brands for each shock, nrg quick release, eBay shifter, eBay wing, cut knuckles and a diff welded by a monkey*
@Demetris Christoforou Oh no! Someone made a joke in a CZcams comment section! Must get offended! Lighten up. The person in the video showed he can be cool about it.
downhill gets dangerous sometimes. i was once going very steap downhill in logan during a turn. although it is a fwd, i heard my rear tyres screech for a second or two and i immidiately slowed down. In my theory, downhill makes car weight shift to front and when a car start turning, rear inside tyre may lift a bit creating a slidy situation.
@@pilot554 Yes, light rear end. The only thing easy to control about a FWD car is when on the gas hard because you won't get power over-steer. Everything else is actually harder to control vs a RWD car that has a transmission in the rear and better weight balance.
From experience, do not ever let your car rotate that far, and never counter steer so much that far in the corner, your pedal inputs being the brake or gas will keep you straight as long as the front wheels are pointed where you want to go, but you cant be afraid of loading the grip up with the brake and throttling out to straighten completely. Learning how to left foot brake has saved me many times to help me reduce understeer.
I learned this early on!!! Dirt roads in a 2WD truck trained me and real world scenarios put it all to the test... Drifted my 05' GP when I had it around an onramp at 60mph cranked about a quater way feathering the throttle lmao wasn't intentional but once I was there, I committed
Especially in a front wheel drive. Literally the only way to go fast in a fwd. on the brakes hard keeping the front from oversteering in to the corner and keeping the rear balanced
Yup, yup. And see my other comment if you wish. In the racing biz, what you see here is known as "out-driving your talent." Too much car + too much road + inability to steer fluidly = Bad Things Happen. Quick. But yes he does get credit for recovering with little drama.
That wasn't even tough to save and that was a super late reaction.. and then you had your girl in the car while driving clearly faster than your skill level in that car.. nice.
In the racing biz, this is known as "out-driving your talent." Looking at this, too much muscling and not enough smoothness at the wheel. He needs to thread it more quickly and fluidly through his hands so he doesn't get hung up being cranked over too far. You have to have a really light touch and just THINK the car through the turns. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
Very true, look at motor cross racing or any racing really, the drivers/riders look almost out of control but are totally in control because they let the machine do the work and let it flow. Only a true pro knows what it’s like just hitting that sweet spot of being in the flow.
Haha, what are you saying? This dude is beyond a paragraph of instructions on the internet. He is totally clueless, has absolutely no idea what he's doing around cars whatsoever. He has had zero instruction or training for anything and on top of that he clearly has no or bad parents, he didn't even get any kind of upbringing. He has no clue how to even adjust his seat, has no clue how to drive AT ALL. He is worse than a beginner who has never driven before, at least they know how useless they are.
All I will say is never drive or ride at or beyond your limit. Just because someone leads does not mean you must follow or push for the sole purpose to pass and fulfill ego. Race comfortably and confidently. The ultimate goal is make it home safe.
That's why you don't do it on public roads. There's 0 margin for error when a family, who didn't sign up to take part in your shenanigans, could be coming the other way around that blind corner. Hit the track. It's a lot cheaper than manslaughter.
0:53 never try to follow the wheel with your hands when the car starts sliding, let the wheel flow through your hands and self counter steer then grab it and start correcting to maintain complete control of the wheel.
@@azza3144a doesn't even matter if it's a Honda man I agree with you that you should never lift off the throttle while taking a sharp turn high speed especially in a fwd but daniel was talking about what to do after the car loses traction
To much left turning of steering wheel is an only reason why he lost control. He should've turned half of what he did, with braking or gas pedaling depending on which axle is driving.
@@sekou3758 if you don't want to get hit by him on your cbr, then it's prob the best for him to hit someone else, and learn the lesson asap. Don't you ever call me DUMB, call me Bad Bob lol
I m glad you're not dead. You misjudged that corner by about 20 mph and if by a "miracle" you held on, you would've gone off the side of the mountain on the switchback
@@cwbuilds9215 I definitely don't do this kind of driving on the road anymore. No more canyon/hill runs for me. If you have an opportunity, please watch the video at this link czcams.com/video/NWvufb8riv4/video.html.
You’re Hands are all of the place on that steering wheel, never do that when you’re taking a turn fast. Watch How Professional Drivers control the wheel it’ll help a lot
Won't help for shit watching others. Learn the basics in a proper sim and then get to a decently sized parking lot or quiet industrial area and do some car balance work. Watching pros work is how amateurs get the brilliant idea they can replicate it if only they "want it enough". Practice is where its at. Not on a mountain either, for that matter.
You need to be atleast somewhat able to catch your car,, and the only way your gonna be proficient in that (besides training) is keeping hands on 9 and 3 oclock,, simple as that.. as soon as you change positions and feed the wheel,, you have no idea what steering imput your using, so to counter is basically impossible.. its insane,, all these videos of vipers, corvetts, sti's, supras ON TRACK on youtube, an all are feeding the wheel, just a matter of time untill they loose gripp and inherently go off since its impossible to counter from that point. :)
@@Biffsteki Correct. It's retarded how instructor's (in UK at least) teach drivers to "feed the wheel". It barely works for parking a car let alone driving one at pace. Would've been a heck of a lot easier to correct the oversteer if he was holding the wheel properly
Gas is your friend on a fwd car, when in doubt mat it. The ITR bar will make your Integra rotate, so now it will tend to oversteer when you lift. Don't test the cars limits in a place like your video, it could have been worse!
You need right position, speed and gear for cornering and don't lift off, apply some drive to engage the wheels. Always take note of if your car is liable to understeer or oversteer too and drive accordingly
@@diogosoares595 so do you think he’s saying that in hopes that the guy in the video will actually see it and take the advice or is he saying it just to look smart?
Keep your hands in the same place on the steering wheel when you're going thru a turn, you can feel the car better and would have made smaller and quicker adjustments to ride out your slip.
I hope you've grown up and matured in the six years since posting this video. That was a public road. What if a family had been driving up the hill just where you lost it and crossed onto the other side killing a kid in a head on collision.
When you know your life is in another person hands you want that person to be as calm as possible...that s why my woman knows to shut the fuck up when I play initial D😂
Sounds like someone’s mad they can’t afford a nice car so they’re reaching for shit to hate on. That better be a damn type r in the profile pic but I doubt it. Dick riding is an even worst form of transportation than your Honda Civic so knock it off lil guy
@@deaf2819 That’s a fucking Acura . Lol. Ain’t no one about to hate on an old integra. The Honda he has on his profile pic is 100x nicer than that Acura 😂😂 you need to eat a snickers dude
That both wasnt the issue imo. Obviously I wasnt there nor fealt the car. Still looked to me as If he simply overcorrected the second the rear stepped out instead of hitting the gas. That send the car into a pendulum effect. Budget scandinavian flick :-)
@@maxwest4820 No No, I think so too bro. He wasn't even going that fast but it was his that accident in his technique that fucked him. It happens to the worst of us, not the best because we built different. THough the first comment isn't wrong he did brake causing his rear to slip out since it is a fwd Integra judging from the sound and interior look.
You can brake while turning its called trail braking and competent performance drivers use two feet not one or else the weight issue you mentioned happens
why what's wrong there he was holding steering wheel in right manner that's why he was be able to come out of that situation you guys now nothing about driving a car 🙄
uh.... upgrading your sway bar would increase the slip rate of the tire. your rear end came out because the spring rate in the rear was too high. (stiff) Probably have some stupid stiff shocks too. You actually want more body roll to lower the slip rate, keep a larger contact patch at all 4 corners and improve overall grip. This is also why you want a loose shock and a softer spring rate. The stock sway bars are decent enough, making them stiffer is great for going straight, but you'll notice a lot of real road course cars use adjustable sway bars, so they can adjust as needed. Think about it this way, an upgraded (stiffer) sway bar (anti roll bar) takes the leverage of the suspension from the outside angle of the car and applies that force to the inside wheel. This is done to keep the car level in the turn. This also makes the slip rates very high, because the harder the turn, the more the body wants to roll and the more the inside tire loses contact area. If you can keep the inside tire plated you increase your overall bite on the road. If you want an idea of how a softer suspension increases tire bite, just look to the IMCA modified dirt track cars. The entire car rolls on some pretty wild angles. It looks wicked but I assure you the hookup is most impressive. I left my sway bars stock on my 95 GSR I kept the ride height stock as well, but I did slap some super soft adjustable shocks on the rear and lowered the spring rate quite a bit. I also lowered the front spring rate a little as well but that was limited due to engine weight and weight transfer up front. When I had the car I could drive the jesus out of canyons, but it floated down the straights like a cadillac. Rule#1 Keep everything adjustable, you'll need to dial it all in. Especially if you plan on making changes like body stiffening, structural supports, or full cage. Rule#2 buy once cry once. Spend the money on good parts. You'll save yourself heartache in the long run. Rule#3 Just because your buddy did something and he loves it, does not mean it was the right thing to do, and he is likely not qualified to determine the long term effects of his change. I have seen a lot of really nice cars slammed into rocks because someones friend bought the newest skunk junk and slapped it in the car last weekend and didn't take it to a qualified tech to have the alignment checked. Awesome recovery, I bet you had to pull your undies out of your ass after that. Do yourself a favor and take that car to Willow and run it there. All I need is you swapping lanes like that while my mom is riding her harley down the mountain. Plus at Willow they have scales so you can adjust your cars balance and dial the suspension up in a safe environment where you won't kill someones mom. Keep it safe, Keep it rubber side down.
@@hemiplow1297 what..... Understeer = too stiff, and front end slides instead of turns. Oversteer = turns too well, usually causing a loss of rear end control. most often the case of being too soft. Stiffer setup will only make cars that understeer, understeer more. Understeer, and oversteer refer purely to the way the front of the car reacts to steering inputs and and road response. When your rear end is too stiff, regardless of oversteer or understeer, your "slip rate" will be too high and the rear end will walk out from behind you. Example: drift cars. Soft front, with lots of steering angle, fairly stiff rear so that the slip rate is very high allowing them to keep the front planted at high angles and the back end loose without a ton of throttle input, but still have enough rear tire traction to propel the car forward and not over rotate in a slide. (the higher the slip rate, the stickier the tire needs to be.) Example: track car. Soft rear to keep the traction and power to the ground, not a really tight or really soft front end, to keep steering angle and traction at peaks without sacrificing one or the other. Example: Retard ricer with dumb internet education. Stiff ass coilovers turntup from some chinese company, but they are anodized purple like all the strut towers, throttle body, and valve cover they got from the same ebay vendor. End up in wall or with window in block every other weekend. because they don't know what overtseer, understeer, or slip rates are :)
@@bobbyd9583 well i found when Im too soft i sway alot.and that makes me not want to steer sharp.I have a challenger with a problem of oversteer...The car dosent slip at all.reguardless of how fast i enter a corner,its very planted.But when i enter a corner too fast i feel the weight of the front wants to drag me straight and before i was on stiffer springs i felt it more.After the springs it feels more graceful through the turns but i still feel cuz of the body roll it wants to understeer...My goal is to make my rear end slide a little more so i can have some oversteer in this car.even at throttle its hard for me to oversteer this car.
Just gotta make sure you're in the right gear... where your RPMs are higher... don't make sudden steering or throttle inputs... don't push the car at the beginning of the corner.. but instead ease in... and as you reach or get near the apex.. increase throttle and steering as needed. Glad you got out of this one safely.
@@ThomasKane424 When your rpms and/or throttle are higher, there is more weight transferred to the rear wheels, less weight in the front, which we know affects grip. Therefore maintaining your rpm and throttle through a turn is critical... .. if you enter a corner at 5000rpm, and let off of the throttle then you will disrupt the weight distribution of the car, resucing grip in the rear, it's always best to ease into the turn before the apex, and maintain your speed/throttle input until you reach the apex which at that point, you can usually give a little more throttle. You also have to be careful giving more throttle as that of course can induce understeer, but it's generally better to maintain throttle or give more when driving FWD, because lift-off oversteer is a high possibility
Well, the car understeered as expected from a road car because it was too fast and the driver was too aggressive with the steering. Then he panicked and released the throttle which shifted the weight of the car to the front, giving some extra grip to the front tires but removing grip from the rears, making it oversteer. That called lift off oversteer by the way. Aaaand it's also a fwd car, so if you start to understeer just lift very slightly and carefully from the accelerator while keeping the steering wheel at the same angle, and you will smoothly correct the problem.
Yeh he's driving a FWD Honda, famously twitchy at the rear with lift-off oversteer, you should always be cornering with some throttle input to maintain balance and not let the light rear end whip around on you... but that's also dependant on you entering the turn at a suitable speed.
If you keep adjusting your hands on the steering wheel like that...when you do lose control your hands are in the wrong position and you correct the car incorrectly.
Click on the link below for my 6 years (almost 8 years now as of this comment) later explanation/response video.
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1. Loud music while driving and cornering quickly, FAULT
2. Driving fast in a shitbox while female present, MAJOR FAULT
3. Going wide mid corner, YIKES
Absolutely no respect
@@Ruudiii Ok Chris
Hace un rato hice fuerza para tirarme un pedo y me cague. Todo liquido llego hasta el pantalon. Todo para lavar otra vez 🤦
My balls itch brother, I live in my car and it's been like three months since I washed my balls. Won't you lend me a shower?
If you were listening to eurobeat you would have drifted the whole turn.
lmao
Exactly
For real lmao
Yep
FWD
I live near there, you are so lucky someone wasn't coming in that other lane. People like you cause all kinds of accidents on this road.
Where is this
@@intellybit it's going from hemet to idyllwild ca on hwy 74. Lived here for 37 years and have seen some gnarly accidents on this road. 😳
I knew i recognized the road
@@Cjdklh thank you for giving me the info to cause more
Sorry Karen
Most important lesson, never do that with a passenger or if you're risking anyone else's life on the road.
As if you don't do so already when you're driving by yourself, he isn't the only one using the road you know...
Agree I never do something I have never done if I’m with someone in the car but If I already know how to do it and done it just enjoy 😅
It's more like never do that on ANY PUBLIC road! Dumbasses are risking everyone's lives!
And go to circuit.
he lost control. its not on purpose
This is a great example of learning how weight transfer works. Braking into a corner is useful to get some slip angle to aid turn in (small slide not noticeable). This guy holds the brakes in so deep that it was only a matter of time when the front wheels have the weight of the car over them that the rears get light and will snap on you. Good car control is like treating the car’s roll like it’s balancing on a pin head, smooth gentle weight shifting.
This looked more like liftoff oversteer
@@NatVirgo same principle as lift off oversteer because that’s when weight that was shifted backwards under acceleration suddenly jumps forwards but FWD cars don’t shift weight back like that. Lift off oversteer is a RWD trait
Typical clown behind the wheels… wreckless idiot. Hope he learns
@@pregnantyellowfish I disagree. Lift off oversteer is extremely common and potentially dangerous on numerous FWD cars. Most of the RWD cars are much more stable releasing the throttle at corner entry than FWD. And I speak of experience. Release the throttle in a high speed corner in a Megane 3 RS and you're in big trouble (despite the superb chassis)... Release it in an M3/350Z/Camaro/Corvette, way less dangerous...
That's some initial d shiet
He’s lucky as crap there wasn’t another car coming on the opposite lane
Fr man his reactions also saved him
Right,
No, the hypothetical person is lucky. The guy in the video is a fuckwit in a car.
Yes. Yes he certainly is.
@@ozkar1888 😂😂
Unskilled, loud music. Best combo.
And fwd🙄🙄🙄
I think "unskilled" is a bit harsh. He managed to save it so he has good reflexes for sure. Just gotta work on his inputs and hand positions
Skills are there but the rest is shit
@@ryanjstewart1 uhghhhhhh uhhhhhghhhfjjdhdudbs
@@AugmentedGravity 🤔🤔
Know your vehicle, know the road you're driving on, and most importantly know your limitations as a driver.
Just set the video speed to 0.25 at 00:56 and you'll see how amazing your skills were doing..
You managed to counter-steer 1 full turn above what you needed... Full on panic mode.
Your luck was amazing that no one was coming..
Turn the music off if you’re doing stuff like this, seriously.
Why
@@nathanaelmalm5641 Music makes your focus zone fade out
Makes sum people focus, just depends on the person
@@tarrenituptv4121 no. That's like people who say they drive better while stoned. Music, even at a moderate volume, can decrease your reaction time by something like 20%
@@ThePwak007 youre stupid😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He did save it so I’ll give him that.
If it was a rear wheel drive car I dont think he would've been able to, gotta love the Teggys
@@aldolizalde481 why do you say that also just letting you know I’m not disagreeing with you but just curious
@@Longshlongjon22 well with Integras, they're front wheel drive so its a little easier to control them, which is one of the reasons why front wheel drive cars are pretty much killing the game right now in time attack, but if it was a rear wheel drive car the back end of the car would kick out more easily since the power is going to the rear wheels
@@aldolizalde481 that slide wasnt due to power and apparently in a situation like that saving it with RWD would be far more easy, because RWD isn't as snappy
@@MatVeiQaaa i never said it was due to power, I just said that with a rwd car since it is powered by the rear wheels, it would've kicked the rear end out more easily and most likely spun out
Every time I see this kinds of videos and you immediately see them feeding the wheel like it's the first time they're driving a car, you know you're in for a treat!
The real MVP is his PURSE. Almost tipped over multiple times, but showed more stability than his driving. Bravo!!!
🤣
Impressive. He oversteered and understeered within a second of each other
Well, it's not really understeer if you steer the car out of the turn yourself by overcorrecting.
gotta turn with it bruh
Wierd how it oversteered even tho it was a Honda
@@Uno_Floydd Any car can oversteer in the right circumstances. It's only when it comes to oversteering while accelerating that you need power at the rear wheels.
In this case, it was a "lift off oversteer". He revved up the engine really high and then lift off the acceleration instantly right before the corner. This caused a powerful engine braking which in turn shifts the car's weight to the front axle. The rear axle didn't have much weight pressing down on it, so the rear wheels lost traction in the corner.
@@Mamsaturatdevoi everything you just said I know already. I didn't say I didn't understand how it worked. I was surprised it happened to him considering usually I can't get lightweight fwd cars to lift-over unless I have built enough speed.
the worst part is that u can kill someone who doesn’t want to die yet bro
Tough luck.
@@dividedstatesofamerica2520 tough luck? Lol what the fuck..
@@dividedstatesofamerica2520 you're a fucking loser lmfao
@@paulmccray4055 ur just soft 🤣
@@paulmccray4055 And you're a fucking moron.
Luckiest unskilled driver ever
It blows my mind people actually drive like this on the main road knowing other people with families are driving on there… Go to a track if you wanna drive like this
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Those $30 steering wheels can only tell me how quality this build is 😂
😭😂
Its Italian Momo wheel, they go for around $300
*your weak joke is cheaper than a burger m8*
@@kacperjechorek8680 that guy don't know shit lol
@@kacperjechorek8680 I doubt that's a genuine momo wheel man
@@kacperjechorek8680 I’d rather have a steering wheel with an airbag on it. Especially if I’m driving fast. But that’s just me..
This driver is lucky, he doesn't know what is doing. Chasing another car down twisty road in a manual takes skills and concentration. His fate is sealed at 0:50. He is going into a mid-speed right corner, instead brake downshift to 2nd, he think it's okay to ride it out on 4th. when the oversteer kicks in, keep on stepping on the brake and can't recover because the cars in a gear too high. He's only lucky that he can turn the wheel fast enough and there is no on coming traffic. Don't do this kind of crap especially you have a passenger...
He was on the brakes and took at shitty line. At that speed he put the weight to the front and when he tried correcting his shitty line the rear end came loose. Almost did a dynamic drift
Its not only that he corner with a high gear what makes him not beeing able to correct drift. Its that he stayed on the brake the wholeeeee time ! Wrong wrong wrong. He should had let brakes by the time he felt the rear beeing light and i think he would be able to corner right
All these comments are just “driver” mad lib and mean nothing at all. Doesn’t matter at all what gear the car was in. Dude was simply too deep into the brakes with too much steering angle. Load was biased to the front so he lost the rear. If he would have come of the brakes a little sooner, he may would have been just fine. His foot remains over the pedal so it’s kind of hard to tell whether he actually continues to apply braking, but I also suspect a little more counter steer a little sooner while coming off the brakes could have made saving it a little less dramatic. Would just have had to be prepared the straighten the wheel quickly once the rear caught again after the weight transferred back.
@@Findmealife I mean kinda what i said. But i think he stayed on the brake whole time, so just a let go from brakes and no counter steering at all before it complete lost would saved the day...
I'm glad my reflexes/muscle memory tell me to not brake hard in a corner, even though I don't have that much experience, it's just something I learned when I was young, and now I apply it without thinking.
"You almost had ME?? You never had me. You never had YOUR CAR".
Really appreciate your follow-up video. You should be proud of not only how far you've come but also your ability to own up to your mistakes. Your ability to be humble is rare and your humility rarer.
Thank you.
Judging by how he's holding that $30 wheel he's lucky to be alive
and no seatbelt
@@isatntt I see the seatbelt on!
@@jxre.myyy22 good eye, I didn't see it in the first 10 seconds or so lol
Sparco/Nardi> oem . If you have Anything NRG/ eBay you should probably not be driving / modifying cars period.
@@seniorbuttocksbiggusdickus7147 *laughs in e36 assembled by 15 different e36 chasis, 4 different coilover brands for each shock, nrg quick release, eBay shifter, eBay wing, cut knuckles and a diff welded by a monkey*
This guy is so cool he almost achieved room temperature for himself and his girlfriend.
Underrated comment
probably cheated on him with the dude in front of them after this happened 😂
Give him an extra 2C° for his purse doe 😘😉
his IQ achieved room temperature as well.
Douche starter pack
Wow good recovery man. Know your limits and digging that manual
Thank you for the comment. 😃
I got to this video through a CZcams suggestion called "Idiots in cars".
Nice. Welcome. 😃
Put your purse in the trunk next time. You wouldn't want your makeup to fly out all over the place 😉
Atticus Sharp the car's gutted. There is not trunk Haha. Girlfriends stuff would of flown everywhere anyways. 👍🏾
@Demetris Christoforou dude, he's an imbécile trying to drive fast without any idea of how doing it.
Nothing bad happens so no need to be that nice.
You can easily tell there’s a women in the passenger how tf are 231 people not in the slightest a tad vigilant whatsoever.. I pray for this planet :(
@@caleb9246 lol 🤦♂️ you don’t get it do you?
@Demetris Christoforou Oh no! Someone made a joke in a CZcams comment section! Must get offended! Lighten up. The person in the video showed he can be cool about it.
Chilliest girlfriend I've ever seen in such situation. Chiller than a mannequin
"If he dies, he dies" -passenger
I didn't even know she was there till this comment
she was probably passed out. lol
Fake legs. Thats a mannequin
It was his boyfriend 🙄
dudes driving skills are nonexistent
downhill gets dangerous sometimes.
i was once going very steap downhill in logan during a turn. although it is a fwd, i heard my rear tyres screech for a second or two and i immidiately slowed down. In my theory, downhill makes car weight shift to front and when a car start turning, rear inside tyre may lift a bit creating a slidy situation.
0:53 for those who don’t want to lose their time
Who's got time for CZcams but can't spare 54 seconds?
But i watch the comments after video
How name music ?
@@R03333 Realshit
you must be impatient as fuck if you can’t just sit back and watch a 1 minute video, ADHD andy
Lots of "experts" in the comment section.
It’s where the pros hang.🥴🥴🤣😂
@@JS-oy6nn u mean 15 y.o s with their mom's accord ?
@@gerrysianturi1135 damn bro..
@Michael Gia Huy Nguyen he was enjoying the road i suppose, but u shouldnt change lanes tho even tho it makes cornering a little bit easier
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How fast were u going
I’m not that experienced with driving yet so can someone point out his mistakes? And what I can do to avoid that in the future ?
Thanks!
1:06 no, upgrade your driving skills
When i saw his hand placements, i was looking for some good crash, more luck than brains in this one
Yep. He didn't lost control, that was just some pretty shitty driving.
@@dess8808 he brake in corner going to fast and with fwd car it will 99% make u lose rear tires grip, he lucky there was no car in fron of him.
@@pilot554 Pretty much.
@@pilot554 Yes, light rear end. The only thing easy to control about a FWD car is when on the gas hard because you won't get power over-steer. Everything else is actually harder to control vs a RWD car that has a transmission in the rear and better weight balance.
From experience, do not ever let your car rotate that far, and never counter steer so much that far in the corner, your pedal inputs being the brake or gas will keep you straight as long as the front wheels are pointed where you want to go, but you cant be afraid of loading the grip up with the brake and throttling out to straighten completely. Learning how to left foot brake has saved me many times to help me reduce understeer.
Agree. Left foot braking is everything if you like drive hard. The car just do what you want.
I learned this early on!!! Dirt roads in a 2WD truck trained me and real world scenarios put it all to the test... Drifted my 05' GP when I had it around an onramp at 60mph cranked about a quater way feathering the throttle lmao wasn't intentional but once I was there, I committed
Especially in a front wheel drive. Literally the only way to go fast in a fwd. on the brakes hard keeping the front from oversteering in to the corner and keeping the rear balanced
@@R3AL-AIM the only way to save it 😂 wide tires with a lsd diff and lots of rain I’ve had a lot of unintentional drifts
Yup, yup. And see my other comment if you wish. In the racing biz, what you see here is known as "out-driving your talent." Too much car + too much road + inability to steer fluidly = Bad Things Happen. Quick. But yes he does get credit for recovering with little drama.
What car was this?
PRAISE OUR LORD 🔜☮️ THANK YOU JESUS CHRIST FOR BEING OUR SAVIOR 🛐praise our LORD 🩸 thank you for being our savior jesus Christ
That wasn't even tough to save and that was a super late reaction.. and then you had your girl in the car while driving clearly faster than your skill level in that car.. nice.
Nice.
No seriously. Shame on him for driving like that with his girl in the car.
@@imanoldurango8213 shame on him for driving like that. He's lucky there wasn't a family coming the other way when this happened
i drive like that with My wife in my car...only when I get a hellcat trying to beat my tuned m6
babe put ur seat belt on
she knows it's time to ride!!
@@thomaslynch9016 omg you're so cool! Not
The reason why he lost control is because he wasn’t listening to Eurobeat
Hahahahah
U copied the other guy clearly
@@skinnyp8028 yeah but he's still correct, Eurobeat would've been better over crappy Florida Georgia Line
Bad comment
I Rip my Stage 3 Tiguan like a pro, look at his feet, very inefficient, could tell that would be the reason why he spun out.
This is exactly how I expected a man with a handbag to drive
Rear wheels losing traction going down-hill and not enough acceleration to keep the weight on the rear?
In the racing biz, this is known as "out-driving your talent." Looking at this, too much muscling and not enough smoothness at the wheel. He needs to thread it more quickly and fluidly through his hands so he doesn't get hung up being cranked over too far. You have to have a really light touch and just THINK the car through the turns. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
Very true, look at motor cross racing or any racing really, the drivers/riders look almost out of control but are totally in control because they let the machine do the work and let it flow. Only a true pro knows what it’s like just hitting that sweet spot of being in the flow.
He needs to be on a racetrack. There he can be as useless as he wants.
So insightful. You must race.
@@dyr_glpsn4209 guys gonna kill someone prat
Haha, what are you saying? This dude is beyond a paragraph of instructions on the internet. He is totally clueless, has absolutely no idea what he's doing around cars whatsoever.
He has had zero instruction or training for anything and on top of that he clearly has no or bad parents, he didn't even get any kind of upbringing. He has no clue how to even adjust his seat, has no clue how to drive AT ALL. He is worse than a beginner who has never driven before, at least they know how useless they are.
the way he grabs on the steering wheel while making a turn
ikr
3 9
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Rookie driver at best
I can’t spot it man, what did he f up?
What model of these car ? Please answer me
Acura Integra
What car were you driving?
1999 Acura Integra
Thanks!
That's what made him mess up, he was listening to Florida Georgia Line.
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All I will say is never drive or ride at or beyond your limit. Just because someone leads does not mean you must follow or push for the sole purpose to pass and fulfill ego. Race comfortably and confidently. The ultimate goal is make it home safe.
Dope video keep the tunes bumping 🔥🔥🔥
Where did you find the original car video
This is the original.
@@filipinokid04 my bad I didn’t mean to comment on this video I meant to do it on a different one I’m sorry for the mistake
That contemplation afterwards, like, did I almost just die?
You race cars long enough you're gonna lose control a few times, it's how you learn.
most definitely
On God
That's why you don't do it on public roads. There's 0 margin for error when a family, who didn't sign up to take part in your shenanigans, could be coming the other way around that blind corner.
Hit the track. It's a lot cheaper than manslaughter.
Go learn at a race track.
0:53 never try to follow the wheel with your hands when the car starts sliding, let the wheel flow through your hands and self counter steer then grab it and start correcting to maintain complete control of the wheel.
And downshift 1 or 2 gears, please!
He's in a Honda so it's Fwd. Point and shoot. Don't let off the throttle in a corner because that is where your traction is...
@@azza3144a doesn't even matter if it's a Honda man I agree with you that you should never lift off the throttle while taking a sharp turn high speed especially in a fwd but daniel was talking about what to do after the car loses traction
@@azza3144a Yup, if you let go of the throttle in a fast corner the weight shift towards the front and you experience lift off oversteer
I've seen a lot of rally drivers do that....😅
The moment the ABS kicked in I was praying for his life. It can only do so much.
To much left turning of steering wheel is an only reason why he lost control. He should've turned half of what he did, with braking or gas pedaling depending on which axle is driving.
That's a bit too fast on such mountain roads
Here before this blows up
You again?
why are you here
Stating such obvious comments to get famous ...
Why tf are you here
Great reflexes and lots of experience can save the day, but best to save this activity for the track.
My grandmom would do the same. I wish he hits someone, so he will be paying a premium monthly for that shit.
@@duosable Are you dumb?
@@sekou3758 You should throw your anger toward the actual dumb driver, dumb dumb.
@@duosable Dumb you’re here wishing that he hit someone, you don’t realize how stupid you are?
@@sekou3758 if you don't want to get hit by him on your cbr, then it's prob the best for him to hit someone else, and learn the lesson asap. Don't you ever call me DUMB, call me Bad Bob lol
How fast is he going? I can’t read the speedometer!
I m glad you're not dead. You misjudged that corner by about 20 mph and if by a "miracle" you held on, you would've gone off the side of the mountain on the switchback
Thank you for the positive comment.
@@filipinokid04 🤜 get someone to navigate and call turns for you and drive sections through a couple times before you bomb them
@@cwbuilds9215 I definitely don't do this kind of driving on the road anymore. No more canyon/hill runs for me. If you have an opportunity, please watch the video at this link czcams.com/video/NWvufb8riv4/video.html.
You’re Hands are all of the place on that steering wheel, never do that when you’re taking a turn fast. Watch How Professional Drivers control the wheel it’ll help a lot
Won't help for shit watching others. Learn the basics in a proper sim and then get to a decently sized parking lot or quiet industrial area and do some car balance work.
Watching pros work is how amateurs get the brilliant idea they can replicate it if only they "want it enough".
Practice is where its at. Not on a mountain either, for that matter.
@@benvella1728 exactly you watch a professional doing his thing and go practice. Seat time is how a good driver is made, you don’t need a Sim
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You need to be atleast somewhat able to catch your car,, and the only way your gonna be proficient in that (besides training) is keeping hands on 9 and 3 oclock,, simple as that.. as soon as you change positions and feed the wheel,, you have no idea what steering imput your using, so to counter is basically impossible.. its insane,, all these videos of vipers, corvetts, sti's, supras ON TRACK on youtube, an all are feeding the wheel, just a matter of time untill they loose gripp and inherently go off since its impossible to counter from that point. :)
@@Biffsteki Correct. It's retarded how instructor's (in UK at least) teach drivers to "feed the wheel". It barely works for parking a car let alone driving one at pace. Would've been a heck of a lot easier to correct the oversteer if he was holding the wheel properly
Gas is your friend on a fwd car, when in doubt mat it. The ITR bar will make your Integra rotate, so now it will tend to oversteer when you lift. Don't test the cars limits in a place like your video, it could have been worse!
I'm going a step further and just getting the 15.9mm sway bar from an 03-05 EM2 civic for my Type-S, will really help with rotation
@@dkis8730 wait 15.9 is an upgrade for civics...lmao.
as the legend say : *when in doubt please bozo*
This isn’t exclusive to FWD. RWD if you still mash the brakes you it’s going into a wall. Throttle and steer-control is what will keep you alive
You need right position, speed and gear for cornering and don't lift off, apply some drive to engage the wheels. Always take note of if your car is liable to understeer or oversteer too and drive accordingly
Scared the shit out of me just viewing this! Best amigo!
Holding the steering wheel like a potato :)
Im confused, it looks normal to me
@@kidmolester7218 thanks
You've now learned the importance of why you don't put such a tiny wheel on a car. You're fighting your own hands trying to recover
Never accelerate in corners, hold a steady rpm, it provides the best traction
Every time you take a corner i want to cry
Hand placement and speed when entering corner need to be improved
Ah yes another expert in the comment section
@@Dat4valveGuy lmao 🤣
@@Dat4valveGuy At least, he got the point..
@@Dat4valveGuy Yeah, another "expert". Guess what? He's just telling facts.
@@diogosoares595 so do you think he’s saying that in hopes that the guy in the video will actually see it and take the advice or is he saying it just to look smart?
He did the nervous Neutral gear switch move
lmao i saw that
What's the rush?
He really did the wiggle wiggle after almost crashing
Keep your hands in the same place on the steering wheel when you're going thru a turn, you can feel the car better and would have made smaller and quicker adjustments to ride out your slip.
You forgot to tell him to turn the music off too. So many things in this video screams amateur lol
Imagine driving off the mountain and slowly hearing "baby you're a song, you make me want to roll...
I like how after regaining control he checks if the car is on neutral
Never do stupid things with other people in the car. If you’re going to leave the matrix, do it alone.
I hope you've grown up and matured in the six years since posting this video. That was a public road. What if a family had been driving up the hill just where you lost it and crossed onto the other side killing a kid in a head on collision.
czcams.com/video/NWvufb8riv4/video.html
well, he'd be doing 12 with an 8 and living the rest of his days with the death of innocent people on his conscience.
Great comment. I like to go fast too, I go to the track.
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People like him don't give a fuck about themselves or others.
Look like Bruno Mars almost loses his purse🤣😂👏👍
That was terrifying. I thought you were going to spill the contents of your purse everywhere.
Driving like a fool and risking his girls life as he does it. Girl wise up,his ego is more important than your life.
She may have not wised up because she married me. Haha
I could tell from the beginning that you can't drive bro..
Okay, thank you for the comment. 😃
At least his girl didn't freak out. Good girl right there.
Or she knows he has insurance and eventually being a passenger in an insured car guarantee an insurance claim after personal injury. 😏
@@maccesar1632 insurance is no good if she dies 😂😂
@@miguelvillareal8300 right 😂
When you know your life is in another person hands you want that person to be as calm as possible...that s why my woman knows to shut the fuck up when I play initial D😂
Probably on her phone and didn’t even notice...
He didn't lose control, he just couldn't remember where he placed it
Nice purse fits the earring, if you drive like this, drive yourself at least you won't hurt the passenger
Wouldn’t be surprised if that purse belonged to you. Cheap steering wheel tells me the quality of your build
It probably is his knowing that guys nowadays wear purses now lol
You had me on the purse.. 😆😆😆
Lmaoooooo
Sounds like someone’s mad they can’t afford a nice car so they’re reaching for shit to hate on. That better be a damn type r in the profile pic but I doubt it. Dick riding is an even worst form of transportation than your Honda Civic so knock it off lil guy
@@deaf2819 That’s a fucking Acura . Lol. Ain’t no one about to hate on an old integra. The Honda he has on his profile pic is 100x nicer than that Acura 😂😂 you need to eat a snickers dude
Ah i see he braked while steering in high speed so all of the car's weight was shifted into the front lol good thing he saved it
That both wasnt the issue imo. Obviously I wasnt there nor fealt the car. Still looked to me as If he simply overcorrected the second the rear stepped out instead of hitting the gas. That send the car into a pendulum effect. Budget scandinavian flick :-)
@@maxwest4820 No No, I think so too bro. He wasn't even going that fast but it was his that accident in his technique that fucked him. It happens to the worst of us, not the best because we built different. THough the first comment isn't wrong he did brake causing his rear to slip out since it is a fwd Integra judging from the sound and interior look.
You can brake while turning its called trail braking and competent performance drivers use two feet not one or else the weight issue you mentioned happens
I watched this video 4 times and still can’t find where “looses control”
Keep watching it and eventually you'll se it. 😉😆
What laws of physics caused the last 10 seconds?
The way he is holding that steering wheel throughout the video was making me anxious.
Garbage driver he puts others in danger cuz his inability too handle that car dumb ass rookie
Why?
@Aero 250 awww did someone panties get all in a bunch take a seat kid know your role
why what's wrong there he was holding steering wheel in right manner that's why he was be able to come out of that situation you guys now nothing about driving a car 🙄
Or how he was resting his hand on the shifter
uh.... upgrading your sway bar would increase the slip rate of the tire. your rear end came out because the spring rate in the rear was too high. (stiff) Probably have some stupid stiff shocks too.
You actually want more body roll to lower the slip rate, keep a larger contact patch at all 4 corners and improve overall grip. This is also why you want a loose shock and a softer spring rate.
The stock sway bars are decent enough, making them stiffer is great for going straight, but you'll notice a lot of real road course cars use adjustable sway bars, so they can adjust as needed.
Think about it this way, an upgraded (stiffer) sway bar (anti roll bar) takes the leverage of the suspension from the outside angle of the car and applies that force to the inside wheel. This is done to keep the car level in the turn. This also makes the slip rates very high, because the harder the turn, the more the body wants to roll and the more the inside tire loses contact area.
If you can keep the inside tire plated you increase your overall bite on the road.
If you want an idea of how a softer suspension increases tire bite, just look to the IMCA modified dirt track cars. The entire car rolls on some pretty wild angles. It looks wicked but I assure you the hookup is most impressive.
I left my sway bars stock on my 95 GSR I kept the ride height stock as well, but I did slap some super soft adjustable shocks on the rear and lowered the spring rate quite a bit. I also lowered the front spring rate a little as well but that was limited due to engine weight and weight transfer up front. When I had the car I could drive the jesus out of canyons, but it floated down the straights like a cadillac.
Rule#1 Keep everything adjustable, you'll need to dial it all in. Especially if you plan on making changes like body stiffening, structural supports, or full cage.
Rule#2 buy once cry once. Spend the money on good parts. You'll save yourself heartache in the long run.
Rule#3 Just because your buddy did something and he loves it, does not mean it was the right thing to do, and he is likely not qualified to determine the long term effects of his change. I have seen a lot of really nice cars slammed into rocks because someones friend bought the newest skunk junk and slapped it in the car last weekend and didn't take it to a qualified tech to have the alignment checked.
Awesome recovery, I bet you had to pull your undies out of your ass after that. Do yourself a favor and take that car to Willow and run it there. All I need is you swapping lanes like that while my mom is riding her harley down the mountain. Plus at Willow they have scales so you can adjust your cars balance and dial the suspension up in a safe environment where you won't kill someones mom.
Keep it safe, Keep it rubber side down.
This is very helpful advice
Well stiffer setup will benefit cars that understeer alot.Too soft you will turn in bad and hit a wall
@@hemiplow1297 what.....
Understeer = too stiff, and front end slides instead of turns.
Oversteer = turns too well, usually causing a loss of rear end control. most often the case of being too soft.
Stiffer setup will only make cars that understeer, understeer more.
Understeer, and oversteer refer purely to the way the front of the car reacts to steering inputs and and road response.
When your rear end is too stiff, regardless of oversteer or understeer, your "slip rate" will be too high and the rear end will walk out from behind you.
Example: drift cars. Soft front, with lots of steering angle, fairly stiff rear so that the slip rate is very high allowing them to keep the front planted at high angles and the back end loose without a ton of throttle input, but still have enough rear tire traction to propel the car forward and not over rotate in a slide. (the higher the slip rate, the stickier the tire needs to be.)
Example: track car. Soft rear to keep the traction and power to the ground, not a really tight or really soft front end, to keep steering angle and traction at peaks without sacrificing one or the other.
Example: Retard ricer with dumb internet education. Stiff ass coilovers turntup from some chinese company, but they are anodized purple like all the strut towers, throttle body, and valve cover they got from the same ebay vendor. End up in wall or with window in block every other weekend. because they don't know what overtseer, understeer, or slip rates are :)
@@bobbyd9583 well i found when Im too soft i sway alot.and that makes me not want to steer sharp.I have a challenger with a problem of oversteer...The car dosent slip at all.reguardless of how fast i enter a corner,its very planted.But when i enter a corner too fast i feel the weight of the front wants to drag me straight and before i was on stiffer springs i felt it more.After the springs it feels more graceful through the turns but i still feel cuz of the body roll it wants to understeer...My goal is to make my rear end slide a little more so i can have some oversteer in this car.even at throttle its hard for me to oversteer this car.
@@bobbyd9583 soft shocks absolutely sucks ass at longer gentle turns man it just feels like you going to sway off the road
This is a great example of how you shouldn’t drive when with passenger, you risking your life is one thing - but another?
Maybe she's as crazy as I am because we're married now.
As soon as you crossed the double yellow, you killed a family : 5 yr old, 8 yr old and mom and dad.
But I didn't, sooooo....
@@filipinokid04 so, you’ll keep being an a-hole until it happens. You must be looking forward to having a boyfriend in prison.
Just gotta make sure you're in the right gear... where your RPMs are higher... don't make sudden steering or throttle inputs... don't push the car at the beginning of the corner.. but instead ease in... and as you reach or get near the apex.. increase throttle and steering as needed.
Glad you got out of this one safely.
I’m confused, when my rpm’s are high does suddenly steering have more of an effect, sorry I don’t know much about cars yet
@@ThomasKane424 When your rpms and/or throttle are higher, there is more weight transferred to the rear wheels, less weight in the front, which we know affects grip.
Therefore maintaining your rpm and throttle through a turn is critical...
.. if you enter a corner at 5000rpm, and let off of the throttle then you will disrupt the weight distribution of the car, resucing grip in the rear, it's always best to ease into the turn before the apex, and maintain your speed/throttle input until you reach the apex which at that point, you can usually give a little more throttle.
You also have to be careful giving more throttle as that of course can induce understeer, but it's generally better to maintain throttle or give more when driving FWD, because lift-off oversteer is a high possibility
So this is what Bruno Mars is doing in free time.
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LOL... I searched for M3 E36 launch and found this🥶😅🤝🤙☠️👏👏
Welcome. Haha
Good recovery ,great speed on the aheel
Well, the car understeered as expected from a road car because it was too fast and the driver was too aggressive with the steering. Then he panicked and released the throttle which shifted the weight of the car to the front, giving some extra grip to the front tires but removing grip from the rears, making it oversteer. That called lift off oversteer by the way. Aaaand it's also a fwd car, so if you start to understeer just lift very slightly and carefully from the accelerator while keeping the steering wheel at the same angle, and you will smoothly correct the problem.
Thank you for this very constructive comment! Truly.
Yeh he's driving a FWD Honda, famously twitchy at the rear with lift-off oversteer, you should always be cornering with some throttle input to maintain balance and not let the light rear end whip around on you... but that's also dependant on you entering the turn at a suitable speed.
Bro how he is going to think all of this in that 5 sec moment
@@muhammedibrahim3504 You don't, that would be reactionary. It's all part of entire drive and awareness of the cars dynamics while driving.
What do you mean by keeping steering at same angle?
If you keep adjusting your hands on the steering wheel like that...when you do lose control your hands are in the wrong position and you correct the car incorrectly.
Whats the final song?
Haha Florida Georgia Line.
@@filipinokid04gaming65 Thanks :)
I understand the panic, but countersteering that crazy is wild 😂😂
0:52 your welcome
When you drive FWD but have RWD instinct with the clutch and brake :D
I would've instantly tapped the accelerator to counter the stepout :)
I really hope you learned your lesson... Keep it on the track.