The Dann Huff Clean Tone
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- Thank you to Gerry Devine ( @gerryguitar ) Mason from @vertexeffects for their help with this video; striving to recreate the Dann Huff clean tone!
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V I D E O C H A P T E R S
00:00 - "Cross Of Gold"
00:35 - Mason Interviews Dann Huff
01:12 - Double Chorusing
01:39 - Pedal Choices
02:04 - "Glory Of Love"
02:40 - Signal Chain
03:45 - Gerry's Guitar
06:07 - L.A. Funk Sound
06:37 - Parallel Effects
06:57 - Building The Tone
08:30 - Patreon - Hudba
It's an honor to contribute in any way! Thanks for doing this video and great tones! You're a world treasure Richard!
Phenomenal work on the Huff interview, my friend- a masterpiece!
thank you for keeping the Dan Huff Flag up...34 years later and DH is still such an iconic influence and finally we have a huge 80s come back music wise-so good taste will always be a matter
Thank you! Dann is, and will always be, the man!
The 80s sound on Guitar with Dann Huff's signature tone is just 👌 👏 🔥 thanks for doing this.
My pleasure- thanks for watching!
Awesome!
Absolutely brilliant playing and tones
Thank you, man! I really appreciate that!
Love that chorus tone. So epic!
It's addictive! I can see why it was used on EVERYTHING!
Awesome video. These clean tones will never get old.
Thank you, my friend!
Anyone on a budget, any Strat and a boss katana mk1 or mk2 does this 80’s tone very well. Acoustic amp model, bit of compression, some chorus and modulated reverb. Gets you right there. 😊
I'd say it's in the ballpark around 60-70% but you'd definately notice the absence of the Tristereochorus, stereo pitch detune and the parallel/midboost sound of the Tyler guitar. As Richard said: the sound of this video (and Dann's recordings) is around 30% the guitar.
Great insights- thanks Robbie!
Stellar Rich, great playing, tones and demonstration!
Thanks Stevie!
Super Awesome !
Thank you!
Again an amazing video with different approaches to achieve those legendary tones !! Thanks master for sharing !!!
Thank you, my friend! I hope you're well.
Thanks again Rich, that Tyler gives so much of the sound. The DI also. Very cool.
Thanks for your support as always, Peter!
Once again - so well done Richard. The time and effort you put in to breaking down everything is incredible and your passion for genius musicians like Dann is so greatly appreciated
Thank you so much!
Richard, this video was a game changer for me and my quest for that Huff tone. Thank you so much!
Ah I'm so glad to hear that, man! Thank you!
Super insightful, Richard! You’re an incredible inspiration.
That's very kind of you, Craig- thank you!
Incredible. I love the in depth dive. Gerry’s guitar is so Bad Ass. Great job Richard. 🙏
Thanks Johnny!
Always loved that riff in the intro (the distorted tone) thanks for the video.
Dann is the man! Thank you!
Thank you for posting this video. I have always need a big fan of DH! Also, your playing is excellent!! Really enjoyed it. Thanks again!
Thanks so much, Rich!
Beautiful sir!
Thanks so much!
Thank you, Richard, for sharing. Been a huge DH/Giant fan since I first saw them in a bar in central Canada when Giant was on their first tour. DH’s sound and song writing is really second to none. A humble and class person as well. Your passion and inspiration to help illustrate all of DH’s and Giant’s nuances is I’m sure appreciated by many. Thx again for sharing.
My pleasure, man! I'm envious you saw Giant back in the day!
Epic as always brother! ❤ 🔥
Thank you, my friend!
Always fantastic content in every regard! Such glassy yet rich clean tones. Find it a real bonus when you break down some of the music theory behind some of your vids. Phenomenal technique and attention to detail! Thx for all your passion in your work
You're very kind- thanks so much!
Beautiful chorus tone❤ superb playing
Thanks so much! Super fun tones to mess around with!
WE NEED MORE!! i am addicted to these tones and your playing!
Ha- thanks man! Working on it!
So good Sir…thanks for the insight
My pleasure- thanks for watching!
Spot on Clean Tones and Playing . Another great video
Thanks so much, man!
Great video🙏🏻
Thank you!
Great playing, great tone & very informative 🔥
Thanks so much!
Beautiful Richard.....well done,
Thanks so much!
You are the best, Richard. Truly.
Ah that's extremely kind of you, Dave- thanks man!
Wicked video and lovely Tyler Classic!
Thanks so much, man! Killer guitar!
@@RichardWatson No doubt. To me, Tyler is simply the pinnacle of the S-type guitar… I hope one is in my future! With that said, your mind and hands created those amazing tones - brilliant as the guitars are, they don’t play themselves…
Very nice! Love the dicphering and stacking
Thanks so much!
Gold as always..
Thanks so much!
Brilliant 🤩 ❤
Thanks Chris!
Great video, thanks a lot!!!
Thanks for watching!
Gerry is a good fella, legend!
He's the best!
This video showed up in my recommendations after watching Dan Huff's interview with Vertex Effects. What a killer sound you have. Nice to see a pro giving back on YT. Thanks for your content!
Thanks so much- truly appreciate it!
Very impresss Rich, thx for you works ... Ciao
Thank you very much!
i actually thought of you when i was watching those vertex videos, cool that you were already in touch with Mason,
incredible work again Rich, that mid boost is wild , really adds a lot, especially on those clean tones , great stuff 🙌
Doesn't it just! I was surprised at the difference the boost made too. And yes, Mason is a great dude. We dork out about this stuff a lot- I'm grateful for his help with this video! Thank you, Paul- hope you're well.
@@RichardWatson was great to see you make an appearance in the Vertex videos too in the final big interview, which could a gone on a lot longer in my opinion =) hope you're well also
Great Job Man ❤❤❤
Thanks so much!
Sounds killer!
Really enjoyed your deep dive into the eightees clean from a while back.
Lots of fun recreating it in the DAW.
Thank you, brother- love your videos!
Hi Rich, another stunning Video! Very interesting how you approach these things. I am always thrilled, and I said it a few times before, watching your Clips, simply because you are "different" then the others. And, not to forget, it´s amazing to hear you speaking (calm, relaxed,...) and then hear you playing the guitar. Like two characters in one (in a GOOD way). To me it´s obvious: guitar playing is a way to express your "other you"... Cheers and best greetings from Germany. Michael.
Ah, Michael- as always, your comment has brought a smile to my face! That's very kind of you, my friend - I hope you're well!
Great video!! Hope you are well!
Thank you, my friend! You too!
Great video and fab tones. Found your channel through vertex and the recent Dann Huff interview ❤
Thanks so much!
Such a great tone. A perfect complementary to masons videos.
Ah thanks man!
Thanks Rich - No one would think any less of you to make some money from YT…. your content is unique and playing is brilliant 🙏🏻
Ah that's kind of you, man - thank you! It's partly that ads drive me crazy myself- it's relentless these days and, lame as it sounds, I want this channel to feel calm so that folks can immerse in these videos without distraction. If there comes a time when there's an opportunity to collaborate with a company, I'd consider doing my own ads but, for now, Patreon is cool with me. There's a community aspect to it that I like. All the best!
That Cross of Gold clean part 🥰, I have also started to experiment with double chorus all in the box recently 🤓, thanks for the video!
Thanks Daniel! It's super fun, right!
Beautiful Richard! 😁
Thanks Ben! Hope you're well, man!
The endresult of the see you in my dreams intro sounded breathtaking Rich. 👍
Ah that's kind of you, man- thank you!
this ism awesome! subbed!
Thanks Mark- appreciate it!
A few years ago I watched you play Philosophy Now. Simple but it sounded good. This changed a lot for me. Funny to see you again here on my search for a nice clean tone.
Happy to help!
Very nice, thanks for this continuing tone journey! Fascinating listening, and great pointers.
For a theatre production of Rock of Ages a week ago, I built something close to this in the Line6 Helix, using parametric EQ to emulate the mid-boost on the guitar, a model of a Soldano clean amp used DI, with micro pitch shift going into the TriChorus model, multi-tap delay and reverb, all fully stereo out to the PA. I needed a Floyd Rose for some other parts of the show, so I used my Charvel SoCal HH, but the mid-position pick-up selection (both inside coils) got me pretty close. I also blended the DI sound in with the Soldano crunch channel - with a cab model - to give more definition to the distorted sounds.
Nice, man - sounds killer!
Another great video Richard! Your playing is immaculate as always and that guitar really suits you! I have also discovered recently how much of an impact the James Tyler configuration has on the Dann Huff (and Landau/Lukather) signature sound!*
Never knew about the clean DI blend! Maybe I can recreate that with my setup.
* I am still so amazed that only James Tyler is doing this series/parallel (and even midboost) on strats! I have seen some Suhr and Anderson guitars have something familiar but that's it... why has Fender for example never done this? I think it is an awesome way of getting more (awesome) tones out of a strat. I don't think it will be too expensive also...
Yeah man! It makes a HUGE difference! Jim was so innovative!
Oh man I had no idea Michael was your teacher at ACM, he was mine too. One of the most mesmerizing guitarists I've ever seen in person and a beautiful human to boot.
Ah man, I miss his presence a lot. Mike felt like the last true link to that 80's L.A. scene and, as you say, was such a lovely guy - wish he could have stayed with us for longer.
Man you are a Huff disciple. Love it.
I'm just a massive dork! Thanks man!
Huge Kudos to Richard, absolutely love all your content, monster of a player and superb breakdown for us lesser mortals, could you imagine how big a pub you’d need for a schmo get together?? Landau/Luke/Huff nuts
I’m so happy I’m not on my own chasing this sound
Delighted Gerry Divine got a mention here too. Huge source of help and a genuine human being who loves to help others in their quest,
Keep it up guys, give us oul fella’s a bit of excitement in their lives😂
Ray Menton
Dublin
Bless you, Ray- that's very kind of you, man! Gerry is an absolute treasure - killer player, endless source of knowledge and fabulous dude! I'm totally down for a massive schmo nerd hang!
1:41
Hope you don’t mind me asking Richard but sound toys are having a spring sale
Would I be correct in saying that you really only use the micro shift, primal tap and superplate plug-ins?
Cheers
Ray
Your Cross of Gold cover has such a beautiful tone that I really want to hear it as a complete version.
Thanks so much!
That 80's rack Tone is heavenly. I own both the Tri Avatar and the DC2W = my 2 Favorite Chorus pedals. Great job brother. oNe LovE from NYC
Ah thanks Michael- I appreciate it, man!
Great video Richard, I also had Mike Casswell as a lecturer at ACM, he’s greatly missed. As he always used to say when you played something cool, “That’s Money!”
Ah that's awesome, man! He was the best, miss his presence and playing a lot.
You an OUTSTANDING player and I'm so jealous of your gear. I have an Axe FX III, so I'm going to try and replicate your tones.
Ah man, you're too kind- thank you!
Ah that’s super cool. Gerry is a good man. And sure does know his tone.
He's a tone master! No-one knows gear like Gerry!
@@RichardWatson he's like a high end sommelier of gear .
Was thinking of picking up a Dimension C because I found out it was the chorus used by INXS, this video sealed the deal!
Yeah man! Super fun unit- you'll dig it!
I use a loaded Tyler with titanium floyd. A dyno my piano tri stereo Chorus. Lexicon pcm 70 eventide hd3000dse a tube Compressor and a modded dbx 160...a spx90 a vintage Marshall cab...and I get exact landau, tones. I invested near 20k to get the right sound.
Sounds like a killer rig!
never thought to have all 3 in 1 series/split/parallel what a powerful move!!
Man, totally addicted to this switching setup!
Tom Anderson calls it the Switcheroo. There is a tiny DIP switch inside the control cavity for each pickup to choose between parallel and split. Center is off, down is series, and up is the chosen DIP mode. The 'blower' switch overrides the toggle setting to bridge series. He's had it as an option for over 30 years.
These are seriously some of the best tones i've ever heard anyone make on the tubes. The complexity is amazing. Immediately this reminded me of 2 tones that I always loved and never could get. One being the late 80s Bad Brain tones (LA style) and the other being Stone temple Pilots Core. I had zero idea that the mid-boost on the Tyler guitar was a Demeter! STP played a Demeter preamp. Brains used a Mesa Boogie MK III or something similar. Amazing info and tones my friend!
That's so kind, Michael- thank you! I'm a huge STP fan so that's very cool to hear!
I have a Demeter TGA-3 70 watt head and the ProCo Rat to go with it - I've spoken to James about my amp. He only made 200 of all TGA types. It's a 2.5 channel amp- the gain channels share controls, so they're not fully independent. I don't know what DD used for modulation, but it was almost certainly a harmonizer of some sort.
@@RichardWatson STP is love in terms of tones and songwriting!
@@johnmcevoy3598 Awesome man! I bet the tones are amazing.
@@MichaelBruceTaos He managed to jam a Fender, a stock Marshall, and a boosted Marshall into one box, equip it with an fx loop, and made it able to control the stereo mix from the front of the amp 30 years ago.
Michael Bruce - from Alice Cooper - my buddy Conrad is playing with him at Cave Creek Bike Week!
Pretty much close DNA, mate. Impressive 😮
Thank you!
This is brilliant - I am so impressed by what you do on your videos. One question: You didnt mention compression..... definitely sounded compressed to me; please let me know if you were using your comp pedal or not. Seems like it would make a big difference if it was on or not.
Hey man! You're absolutely right- ridiculous that I failed to mention that. So, there was compression from two sources- a little on the way in via my preamp and then a logic 1176 style compressor added to the guitar bus (cleans only). I tried using my Wampler but placing it after the loaded down amp raised the noise floor too much.
Shit yeah!❤
Thanks brother!
Great video as always! What was used for drive sounds? Mesa?
Thank you! Yes- Boogie lead channel!
Incredible video, and glad to see you’re friends with Mason! Could you explain, guitar-wise what it would take to go from a stock 2nd position start tone to get to what this is doing? Are the middle and bridge in series or parallel with Dan’s clean tone?
Hey man! So, as far I know, Dann would use just the bridge in parallel when in the 2nd position. I'd say the mid boost is a massive component though as, when turned down, it almost acts like a buffer and gives you these "hi fi" hyped highs and lows.
rich..you really are the best to ever do it - such taste, such touch on an electric guitar.
as you said before, a lot of us are prohibited these tones.. i know the pickups aren’t too expensive but with just a normal single coil strat: how could we achieve these secret mid boost settings?
perhaps a mid boost in the signal chain? demeter fat boost? what are your thoughts?
does he split his humbuckers or does he always use series parallel because that’s pretty different
Hey Josh!
That's very kind of you, man- thank you!
So, a couple of things to consider...
Firstly, you can order a Tyler spec mid boost straight from Demeter (for around $100 or so) - you'd just need to find a competent tech or, ideally, luthier (as it would require routing out a battery compartment, unless you put it underneath the pick guard).
But, if we take the boost out of the equation, what the mid boost is doing for the majority of Dann's clean tones is not actually adding mids, it's hyping bass and treble. Because you're introducing active circuitry at the source, it's producing the same effect as introducing a buffer. Most of those 80's session players would have the mid boost active but turned all the way down. The only clip where I actually used the "mid" part of the mid boost in this video was the "L.A. Funk" segment.
So, if you were trying to get close to these sounds without different pickups or the boost. I would be going for a SUPER clean sound (no break up), hype the bass and treble with on the amp or with an EQ pedal, mostly use position 2 or 4 on your Strat, go for a fast attack, low threshold compression (and A LOT of it), micro pitch shift in parallel, Tri Stereo or Dimension D chorus (or both), digital delay (probably a dotted 8th or a 1/4 AND a dotted 8th) and a plate or digital hall type reverb. Blending in a clean DI makes a massive difference and I've seen some folks get close using an acoustic simulator (basically you're removing the filtering effect the cabinet would usually have).
Re: The humbucker, for cleans I think it would always tend to used in conjunction with the middle, but I know Dann would use the humbucker by itself (and in parallel) for certain lead tones.
Hope that helps!
thank you so much for the reply! i’ve got a mono setup myself but with recording i got pretty close splitting out my dimension d pedal. very cool, thanks again for being so active in this youtube community!
Some lovely tones, great stuff. Would be super curious how close you could get to the single note line tones you did at 6:10 using a BOSS EQ pedal (or the EQ in something like the HX Stomp). I.e. what the mid boost switch is doing using a different guitar.
Hi, have same quest. For what's it's worth couldn't get anywhere close with the boss ge7. Demeter did to a special fat control pedal with a Tyler switch. But are as rare as Unicorn poop in the UK, so have never heard one. I am currently using a Ehx soul food klone as a clean mid boost, cheap reliable and as close as I've got. Interested in anybody elses experience, hope this helps ,Cheers
I'd be very curious to see if you could get close! The thing with the mid boost is that, when it's active but turned down, it adds a bunch of highs and lows (almost like a "hi fi" mode) before it does anything to the mids. The boost itself is SUPER powerful and I found I only really used it in that one instance, turned up a 3rd of the way. Try hyping lows and highs first, to see if you can approximate the "active but turned down" tone!
Hey Richard! You are a tone historian. Dann said he used up all his chorus in the '80s! I have an ancient Sony HR--MP5 that has a program that gets _really_ close to that pristine, shimmery tone Dann used on "See You In My Dreams". I typically use my Anderson hollow DropTop for just about everything, and aside from the midboost (which is a Demeter mid boost), it has all the features of the Tyler Dann Huff model.
Tyler used Tom Anderson necks in the late '80s, as did Pensa-Suhr, and Sadowsky.
Thanks man! Your Anderson sounds killer!
Great tone....also check out Corey Hart "Boy in a box" album...I believe that was recorded with a Rockman (the Michael Byron-Hehir would have to confirm that) Amazing Michael Casswell taught you...he was an amazing player with unbelievable feel and the "Mr Mister" Valleys Arts guitar is killer...keep up the fantastic content!
Thanks so much, man!
Man...i was thinking about Michael yesterday...what a loss...
I know, man- it still bums me out regularly. I wish he'd been able to stay with us for longer .
Amazing job as always, quick question, how do you fell not having a tone knob on that guitar ? I would have the same thing but squeeze a tone knob because I use it a lot.
Thanks man! I actually found I didn't miss it at all, but that's likely because I rarely use mine!
What overdrive/distortion pedal did you use on the LA funk portion of this video? I know this video was primarily about Dann Huff’s clean tone which sounds fantastic but so do the overdriven distorted guitar parts you played on that LA funk (commodores) song portion 6 minutes in. Thanks for any info on that
The drive sound was from my Mesa Boogie Mark IV (lead channel) - any kind of Boogie architecture (pedal/amp sim) should get close!
Great tones and playing! Could you sharevthe Primal Tap settings? I have been using Echoboy mainly and PT is rather unknown to me even if I have it.
Cheers!
Sure! One side set to a 1/4 note, the other to a dotted 8th, depth and speed on the modulation set to around 10 O'clock, feedback around 50%, "X" control at zero, low end cut by 50%.
Thanks a lot@@RichardWatson !
👍👍
Thanks Brian!
Great Job!!! How did you like the stainless steel frets on a Tyler?
LOVE them! They will be spec'd on a future guitar, for sure!
I wonder what potts are used for that pickup setup? 500k or 250k ?
Pretty sure Gerry said 500k!
Звук этого инструмента лутчий в Мире!!! У меня Gibson castoom Но! мне всегда хотелось и хочется иметь гитару Jeims Tyler❤
They are amazing guitars!
One more thing, please, PLEASE, at some point dissect the Meet Me Halfway solo and lead tone.
Absolutely, man- stay tuned!
Awesome!
Thanks man!
Very impresss Rich, thx for you works ... Ciao
Thanks is much!