Justin Welby • Thy Kingdom Come, tongues, Brexit, LGBT and church unity
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- čas přidán 19. 01. 2019
- Justin Welby the Archbishop of Canterbury speaks to Premier’s Justin Brierley about the evangelism and prayer initiative Thy Kingdom Come, speaking in tongues, Brexit, politics, being the leader of the Anglican Church, and how he deals with controversy surrounding LGBT issues.
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I respect you immensely as Archbishop, Justin. A true, humble man of prayer.
A God servant
“I don’t think it’s unique. I think it’s biblical!”
Yeahmahn!!!!
Hearing what people who are "aggrieved" (e.g. LGBT people) are saying is one thing, changing 2000 year old church doctrine is quite another, and the Archbishop rather skirted around this critical issue here.
These clergymen don't believe in the Bible or the God of the Bible. They fashion a counterfeit religion and a god made in their image. 2 Tim 3:16.
I've read the comments, whether I agree with some or disagree with others, we all must adhere to the fact that the Bible is truth and we are to love oneanother regardless. Much prayer required for all of creation right now. Do pray brothers and sisters, blessings and love x
Wonderful, very inspiring
As relevant in 2023 as it was when first done
I'm deeply impressed and wish His Grace the best. Perhaps I'm impressed because the expression of Anglicanism in my country across the pond has only a few bishops worth listening to and a whole lot of clunkers with mostly social justice agendas. He is so modest and self-effacing, and his deep faith rooted in scripture comes through. He also knows about disagreements in the church and treats that subject with refreshing candor.. The church has always been divided from the days of the early councils right through the Middle Ages. Only misinformed traditionalists cling to a fiction that there was a golden age of agreement and pure untroubled belief. If so, when and where was it?
IN England you still talk about bringing people to Christ. In my country that talk is mostly absent for a whole host of historical and cultural reasons not least the fact that for the first 125 years of existence in the US our Anglican expression (Episcopal church) was the habitat of the well off and the well bred and fie on the lower classes who could go to Methodist or Presbyterian or baptist places. Bringing people to Christ wholesale might bring the masses through the church door. Until 35 years or so ago we would panic at the thought of that. Now we are trying to play catch up, and the horse is out of the barn and well down the road.
Would love to know how the CofE interrupts excommunication in light of church holiness (1 Cor 5)? Externally it seems to be include and discuss!
What!
Pastoral sensitivity is very important...but saying something is acceptable (and to be celebrated) when it is actually sinful is very serious. Of course the baptismal liturgy is a change doctrinally. The CofE is in a very serious position. How can he say the Reformation was a tragedy?
How would Carnaby street ever know God if you were to speak to them? There are people there who need to harvested by the servants of God. Are you a humble servant of God and can you seek ways of giving reassurance to the community of the gay villages of the world, who have known great suffering from the government?
For if we do not reject the anti-Semitism of Luther, and reject the abandoning of loving one another, we will not be fully living the mission of the Spirit in our lives.
B D W Hardy - not sure what your point is. As I said, pastoral sensitivity is important and such people do need to hear the good news of Jesus...but not by pretending there aren't things in their life which need to change - just like all of us. Our sinfulness is confronted by the gospel, not ignored or celebrated. It is important however not to single this out, heterosexual promiscuity and serial monogamy are also sinful for example.
@@bdwhardy9680 Have you ever been to Carnaby Street? I don't think it is what you imagine it is. It is a very normal shopping street these days, it was a fashionable street in the 60s. But it isn't now, and it never has been even remotely gay. Let alone a gay village.
You do realize that the Anglican Church was founded on the very basis of calling a sin “normal?” The Bible hasn’t changed. Divorce is still a moral sin that will send you to hell ie Luke 16:18. Thankfully the Catholic Church is the one church that still stands up for truth.
Moses King - I'm very aware of the origins of the CofE...and also the distance of the Roman Catholic Church both then and now from Biblical Christianity.
Tremendously encouraging to and helpful. Thank you, Archbishop.
President Trump has an evangelical 'spiritual adviser' Paula White who speaks in tongues ,
"LA BAMBA MA TUTU KONTIKI WATOOBA MONEY HONEY BAMBA SAMBA".
Can any theological scholar enlighten us what she is saying to the supernatural creator of the Universe.
Tremendously encouraging and helpful. Thank you Archbishop.
In this interview the Archbishop, aware no doubt of past criticism of him, says that he isn’t seeking unity over truth, yet when asked about same sex marriage/homosexuality he can’t manage to separate the truth from the pastoral issues long enough to make a single truth statement about homosexuality and same sex marriage. And the interviewer acts as if that’s acceptable because presumably it was in his mind understandable that the Archbishop wouldn’t want to make a clear statement about same sex relationships to avoid being insensitive. And so we are left having to presume that neither the Archbishop nor the interviewer can manage to keep truth and unity separate even when the worldwide Anglican Church is about to be torn in two. That neither person felt a greater obligation to be helpful at such a critical time is beyond me.
The interviewer framed the issue unhelpfully from the start. Without saying even which of a range of issues under the umbrella of sexuality he’s specifically referring to he says “The ordinary Christian is left thinking “I don’t know what I think about this”. What’s your advice for the person who hasn’t got it figured out”? Whilst the ordinary Christian may be wondering whether or not to accept same sex marriage in the community there’s absolutely no doubt regarding how Christians should view the righteousness of same sex marriage and homosexuality amongst believers (even if there are complex pastoral issues). And yet neither the interviewer nor the interviewee managed to handle that distinction at all. We heard no open declaration of the clear teaching of passages like Romans 1 and 2 Timothy 1 regarding homosexuality and therefore same sex marriage and believers. Neither person could manage to handle this interview with even a hint of sensitivity to the huge group of Anglicans who are intending to break away. Incredible considering the seriousness of the issue. The Archbishop started talking about how Jesus would comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable but that same Jesus would still tell people to leave their life of sin.
The Anglican Church is heading for a split over more than just how same sex marriage is handled within the church. The issues of sexuality are for many Anglicans in other countries just a subissue of a larger issue the interviewer didn’t bother to raise at all! The prime reason for a huge chunk of Anglicans separating is because they think other parts are only interested in preaching a watered down gospel and no longer demonstrate belief in the authority of scripture. Something about which I have had first hand experience. If you are in a Church of England church which talks about the holiness of God, His intolerance of sin, His being just, the reality of judgement, hell, how the cross is mercy, and repentance and the nature of the life to which we are called (beyond kindness), count yourself blessed - these apparently less palatable truths are just ignored in much of the UK church these days. And yet the interviewer managed to reduce the discussion to one about sexuality (and as I have explained to not even an effective one about that). What a total screw up of an interview at such a critical time. Sorry if that truth statement is pastorally insensitive! Is there any chance another interview can explore the issues at the heart of the already present split in the Anglican Church next time?
I can’t believe what I just saw and heard. This on top of another Premier editor in the last seven days refusing to recognise that the preaching of Michael Curry cannot be separated from his actions (he’s sanctioning leaders under him who refuse to bless same sex relationships) means Premier is basically part of the problem right now not part of the solution. Can we expect from Premier any truth statements on homosexuality and same sex marriage and explanation of the Anglican split any time soon? This interview has to be redone. It’s too important. I’ve sent through an article regarding the fact that the gospel being preached in most of the UK church these days is nothing like the one being preached by Billy Graham when he came here in 1954 when the gospel transformed the country but you won’t publish it. What will you publish instead?
I think this issue is more complicated than you think it is.
B D W Hardy You may be right. But unless you provide any kind of explanation for your view it’s impossible for anyone to know.
Thank you for explaining this so I don't have to waste 30mins of my time. Too many people are afraid to stand on what God very clearly said.
It shouldn't be controversial to call sin what it is
I have heard the Archbishop describe why he seems so wishy-washy. He describes this difficult pastoral situation where people who are LGBT need to be told that God loves them and need to be pastored too (as he believes), but if he does this, Anglicans in Africa could very literally be put to death out of fear of Christians turning them gay. If he tells them they are sinners (as he also believes), then the Church in the west will be smeared and divided. It is a tough pickle to be in.
Michael Jefferies The job of a good leader is to recognise how to frame the discussion - to present ideas so they aren’t able to be so easily disrespected or misunderstood. You know for example that you are going to be asked by some UK journalist if being gay is a sin. Here’s one way you could respond to a situation like that.
Journalist: “Is being gay a sin?”
Welby: “You are asking me this question and yet most of those on whose behalf you answer that question don’t relate to the word sin at all. If that’s the case why are you using the word with me? Why not ask me a question which can be understood by those on whose behalf you ask?”
Journalist: “Ok then. Is it wrong to be a practising homosexual?”
Welby: “Ok now you are using a word which your audience will understand. But now we have a second issue. Much of your audience don’t believe any more that there is any absolute right and wrong - that there is no basis for right and wrong. And I agree with them that there is no basis for right and wrong without God. Therefore perhaps you would like me to tell you why I believe there is a God, yes?”
Journalist: “Ok”.
Welby: “Great. But before I do that I want to divert to say something. There isn’t a Christian anywhere who didn’t come to faith in God precisely because they were not able to meet the standards of behaviour that God sets. God’s standards don’t relate only to sexual behaviour for both heterosexual and homosexual but to the workaholic, the alcoholic, the selfish husband, the inconsiderate teenager, the stingy rich person etc. If I make the list long enough you’ll find that it isn’t homosexuals who are condemned by their behaviour - it’s everyone. So now if you didn’t know you know that the Christian God has the highest standards and because God is just we all stand unable to walk into the presence of a God who is absolutely perfect. His perfection isn’t an awful thing though - it’s an incredible thing. But that’s not all there is to know about this God. He also loves each and every human being with a love so intense, so pure and so self-giving that since I have encountered it I have not been able to either discover the limits of it or get over the wonder of it”.
And on another occasion he could try and gain greater acceptance by saying the following things.
Welby: “There are two attributes of God which many claim make Christianity unacceptable but which aren’t unacceptable at all. In fact they are beautiful.
The first is that God is intolerant. We say we love tolerance but we are hypocritical about tolerance. We want God to be intolerant of those who fail us but when it comes to our failings we want tolerance. But the truth is God’s hatred of sin and His absolute commitment to justice in every situation is a good thing.
And the second is that God wants to have us completely. If you had a lover and they jumped into bed with somebody else you wouldn’t just feel disappointed - you’d be angry. And the reason you’d feel angry is that you would feel entitled to have that lover just for yourself. But when God reacts that way with us we act as if we can’t relate to His problem. Just as with God’s intolerance we just don’t want to understand. We are made in the image of God and our desire to have meaningful committed relationships is something that we share with Him”.
The Archbishop knows he is going to face these moments. He is free to ensure he is ready for them. He has any number of people he could draw on to ask for help. So you can consider the way he answers questions in this interview to be an indication of his capacity to foresee his responsibilities and his ability to organise himself to be ready for them. This is about caring for people. My mother is not a particularly intellectual person and the way in which she has expressed herself has always been frustrating to me. But then when she stands up at a party to give a speech her heart always finds a way to say something perfectly suitable. Love finds a way.
What about the new baptismal liturgy for people who have transed back to their original gender/sex that they had come away from?
Baptism can only happen once or I would be re-baptized every day.
Respect wonderful man of God
"It's no longer an Anglican thing". That's a shame.
Come up
I don’t think it’s unique. , I believe it's belief without proof, reasoning and a proper education.
God is using my fellow Jew to do amazing things! Just wish he could change his mind on infant baptism. Kudos to him though on taking a Biblical stance when it comes to sex and marriage.
I also think he should have spoken more loudly against the “transgender” thing.
Theres no getting it wrong, its plainly laid out through the bible how we were made, who we are, where we came from and where we will go based on our choices. the bible should be taught properly to people, with the old and new testaments brought together the way they should be.........why did God destroy the first and second temples?.............because God had left the buildings! God is not inclusive.....my bible says if you dont know the Son, you dont know the Father and Jesus did not die so people could be free TO sin, he died to set us free FROM sin because the flesh is a slave to sin and the Holy Spirit sets you free
He can make a tree uproot and walk away just by talking.
I watched his speech today going on about the RNLI saving migrants we pay for the RNLI to save our lives not people who put there own lives in danger
I will not donate a penny to the RNLI as long as they are involved with bringing in illegal immigrants.
He is a migrant himself. Palestine beckons him
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Affirming one's identity in Christ whilst they sin outright in their body and rebel against clear commands and the creation ordinance - HOW CAN THAT NOT BE COGNITIVELY DISSONANT. What is the beginning of wisdom - the fear of man or the fear of God. No - affirming sin is not love. If sinner choose sin, they choose sin. We cannot water down the Gospel hoping that it'll become palatable to a unconverted soul hostile to God. = and I am a person who left the LGBTQ lifestyle to follow Jesus according to a traditional Biblical sex ethic which affirms the creation ordinance.
Here is a listing of some of the questions the interviewer asked and why they fell far short of asking the Archbishop to face the critical issues currently at stake:
“Are you a New Years resolution person. Do you have any New Years resolutions?”
No point in leaving the froth and bubble questions to the end. Why not start with one?
“In your own life I think it’s fair to say you come from a fairly charismatic background. Do you see that expressed in your own prayer life?”
You are asking the Archbishop about his prayers. He’s only an important person because of the things for which he’s responsible. Can we get onto those things?
“Do you pray for the church to be revived?”
Any chance we can focus on issues that relate to the church being revived instead of asking the Archbishop about what he prays for.
“And possibly the one with the hardest job is Theresa May. What would your prayer for her be if you wanted to pray for her?”
Nothing about how Christianity actually relates to Brexit? Or a question for a remainer like “Is a nation wanting to exercise sovereignty over itself something desirable and defensible from scripture?” No. Your best question relating to Brexit is focused around motherhood issues. Praying for politicians. Was that honestly the best question about Brexit you could think of Justin?
“You’ve said before Jesus was highly political but he was not party political. So would Jesus speak at the TUC in your opinion?”
Justin, if you are struggling with whether the gospel reaches into politics can you go and get yourself sorted out? The rest of us have read the bible and realise it’s impossible to separate faith from politics. Is there any chance you can catch up? Hint - you’re only struggling with this when it’s so obvious because you’re as desperate to be liked as you showed yourself to be in this interview with the Archbishop. As part of his reply the Archbishop said “If someone gives me a chance to speak about Jesus Christ to people who may not know who he is I will take it”. Was that clear enough? No, because you have a follow up.
“But if that opportunity means you feel compelled to speak about the current way the welfare system is being enacted and that sort of thing that doesn’t cross that line as it were?”
What line, Justin? Is there some line you are aware of that we aren’t? The Archbishop ends up replying to you “We are called as Christians to speak by the Bible, right?” Now there’s a cutting edge answer to a cutting edge question. What else did you hope he would say?
“Which leads to how you carry out your role as Archbishop of Canterbury, the person who in a sense has some spiritual authority in the Church of England. Do you feel like you are a person who has any power or control in the position you have?”
Yes let’s move back from your issues to another question about the Archbishop and his role. Forget the monumental issues of principle and truth being faced by the C of E and Anglicans around the world.
What difference does it make if he feels he has power and control? I’m trying to influence you right now but I don’t have any power or control over you. It’s a question of doing what’s right, yes?
Part of his reply included “There is power in the sense of being able to put things on agendas”. Bingo. It’s the very thing you are failing to do during this interview, Justin. We end up waiting through the whole interview for you to put anything on the Archbishop’s agenda. But wait, is there light at the end of the tunnel?
“We’re obviously looking ahead. 2020 will be the Lambeth Conference. All of those issues in the pipeline I’m sure you’re fully aware. The thing that so often comes round are the around sexuality and those sorts of issues. These are the issues that I’m sure are going to be on the agenda. For the ordinary Christian - I think a lot of Christians are left wondering “I don’t know what I think about this. There are strong opinions on gay marriage - sexuality - and that sort of thing. What’s your advice in that sense for the person who doesn’t have it figured out?”
This was the most extraordinary expression of your failure to understand what it means to be Christian, Justin. Have you heard of Phil Pringle? He was living unmarried with his now wife and they became Christians and God kept giving him this word “fornication”. He didn’t know what it meant so he loudly asked someone at his church. Christians when it comes to sexuality have both the plain teaching of scripture and the Holy Spirit’s help. Which of these don’t you have the benefit of, Justin? Why if you have both do you express a question which is actually only an expression of your own confusion?
1 Timothy 1:9-10 NIV
[9] We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, [10] for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers---and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine.
Does that help? But I’m interrupting let’s get back to asking the Archbishop another question about how he’s feeling.
“Obviously when these things come up there are many different views. How difficult is it for you and what do you do when you are in the midst of those competing views to hold together this extraordinary institution that is the Anglican Church? Or is that not your job?”
Yes, let’s return to the Archbishop and his burden. Another question on the Archbishop and his role rather than on the issues themselves. Your empathy for the Archbishop isn’t touching. It’s a complete neglect of the issues he and you and we all face. But you’re not done with this reality TV interview yet. You’re unstoppable.
“I’ll finish with a final question. Obviously it’s a huge burden of responsibility I’m sure when you are sworn in as Archbishop of Canterbury. Will the Church of England hold together? No-one wants to be the one under whose watch it sort of fragments. Or is it inevitable that there will be some sort of (split?)...”
Again Justin you are focussed on the issue from the perspective of the Archbishop’s personal reputation. Not once does the Archbishop not allow you to indulge your focus on him. Nothing like “Well this isn’t actually about my reputation”. Is it not possible for you to see both the Archbishop’s responsibility and yours, Justin, as being a servant of the gospel? You know, the one that isn’t actually being preached in a huge number of UK churches? And leave all the issues of reputation to God?
I hope it’s clear now why I believe this interview was an expression of total neglect of responsibility and a total inability to be relevant.
Philip Benjamin
Maybe you should be the Archbishop. You certainly have a lot of answers!
Keep away from popes thy kingdom come idea. Because he says something and does something.
So far pope has destroyed a Christian faith in other religions because he gave such importance instead of telling them that the Jesus christ is the only 2ay to God.
He has told Hindu, Buddhist to pray for the peace of the world on his pulpit.
If the other religion's pray on their own accord for the peace of the world, that's fine but I personally not going bring people on pulpit and ask them to pray, then he goes in mosques and kisses the Quran, then he asks Buddhist to come to his cathedral. So what right this Pope has to bring Christians under unity.
Sadly this welby arch bishop is promoting this , and this interviewer is also promoting Pope and his deception.
Do they understand what they are doing?
And people here do they try to link with this all and think a bit.
We wants Gods kingdom to come and it will come regardless of our prayers because satans given time is up and at the return of Jesus christ He will bind the satan and destroy ungodly rebellious generation and then set his kingdom.
Kingdom of Jesus christ is not next event, rapture and Tribulation, appearance of Antichrist are the and the return of Jesus christ to judge next event which need to be preached first along with the prayer of thy kingdom come.
Very insightful comment; the Roman Catholic Church defined collaborative prayer events, particularly between ascension and Pentecost, as pivotal in bringing about their Roman Catholic unity under papal authority decades ago. Welby and Sentamu's 2016 "thy kingdom come" event is a Roman Catholic idea. Welby is a closet Romanist. As Nicky Gumbel.
Just who is Justin Brierley working for? How can he take any part in the promotion of unity with the RCC?
"To substitute unity in the gospel for a worldly unity based on nothing more than human institutions is to compromise the truth of the Christian faith." - Dr Martyn L Jones
Forget politics and just keep on peddling the fantasy story that is the bible (& religion in general).
at 30:00 he realises we all want to imagine a world in which everything sees reality like we wish it to be. Now some have the power to force others to accept their wishful reality by law and we even have to falsify legal documents in order to make it look true - so their phantasy has come true :-)
Aaah, the poor chaps both seem to be afraid to speak but at least they have a sense of giggling at their faltering conversing here.
That's so British!
Justin Welby - You must be born again. John 3:3.
Amen
I think God has given us denominations to stop the political action and accompanying abuse of power.
So God didn't answer Christ's Gethsemane prayer for unity, then. Denominations are of the Devil.
"READ THE BIBLE CAREFULLY!" Well said ABC. Too many Christians read the Bible in exactly the same way as a Muslim reads the Qur'an. I remember during my own theological education back in the early 1970s, being told by Alan Suggate, "The Bible always says what it means: it does not always mean what it says." The Bible is the divinely-inspired, but humanly-written, 'salvation-history' of the Hebrew People: a history which Christians believe received its greatest 'point-of-contact' between Yahweh and the Jews, in the life, teachings, death and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth. THAT is the 'miracle' of the Bible. Therein lies its only consistency. For the rest, "READ THE BIBLE CAREFULLY!" I would only wish to add, "prayerfully".The Church of England is not, by definition, FUNDAMENTALIST: but there are too many Christians within it who are. It is they who will lead the 'Ship' of the 'Church' to destruction on the rocks of human sexuality. I'm an older gay man (almost 67), and I have struggled to maintain my faith for the past forty years, devoid of the dubious comforts of the Church. At this point, no self-respecting gay man should be INSIDE the Church. We are a different 'kind' of sinner to all others, it appears (look how swiftly we are used as the acid-test for orthodoxy below!). Until the Church humanises its theology of human sexuality, and learns the lesson of Our Lord that the Sabbath is made for man, no gay man should be INSIDE the Church.
Mark Dyer
Hi Mark,
I read your comments. I just wanted to say three things (I’m sorry if you don’t feel that the things I’m saying are a complete response to the things that you’ve listed - your comments motivated me to want to say other things).
The first thing I want to say is that if you at any stage have been given the impression that homosexuality was some kind of special sin or that you personally were especially sinful then that does indeed show the inadequacy of understanding and heart of those who treated you in that way. And I want to say I’m sorry if that has been the case.
Secondly I want you to know that whilst I do see homosexuality as inconsistent with the life to which God has called us as believers I want you to know that my understanding of Christianity is that God doesn’t love those who come to Him any more than He loves those who do not. We don’t become God’s by repenting. We are God’s because we were made by Him and are therefore His. The verse that shows this for me most strongly is Matthew 23:37. The ones that God wants together under his wings are rebels!
Finally I want to tell you about some moments that happened in the earlier years of my Christian faith. I reached a crisis point in my relationship with God where I was trying to do many things in the church but sensed that God was not really supporting me in them. Because I felt this I became angry. Why was it, if I was trying to do things for God, was He not with me? God gave me a verse at the time - Galatians 5:16. “Live by the spirit and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature”. This verse hit me like a bullet. I suddenly realised that it wasn’t enough for me to trust that God was with me and yet not feel His presence and power. Such a situation did not provide enough for me to not gratify the sinful nature. So I started to ask questions about those first four words. What is “living by the Spirit”? Whatever it is I knew it had to be important. I eventually started to see my misunderstanding and blindness laid before me. I had been treating the Holy Spirit as if he was like washing powder that I added to my own wash to make my wash whiter. But the Holy Spirit was God! I suddenly realised that I needed to submit to the Holy Spirit. I realise that this meant that I could no longer show faith in actions of mine which weren’t a result of God’s leading and empowering. I had to wait until I could move forward with God.
If no one has said this to you I want you to realise that God is not asking you to be somebody else. He knows there’s something that is easy for someone else could be hard for you and vice versa. But he is asking you to live your life with Him as only you and Him together can do. I would be a terrible you and Hugh would be a terrible me. We are unique. It’s not very trendy these days but Christianity isn’t supposed to start only with faith in God - it’s also supposed to start with repentance. So when I decided to wait on God the very first thing God did was to show me my sin and led me to repentance. I’m sharing these things with you in case they are a blessing to you. I don’t know you personally but I do know you are a special human being for whom God feels overwhelming love and I wish you every blessing from God.
@@philipbenjamin4720 Thank you for taking the time to write so fully, Philip: but I'm afraid your arguments are those I first heard around 1971-74. Basically, it is harder for the homosexual to be what God wants for him - celibacy - but we all have our crosses to bear: even we who are heterosexual! Sorry, that doesn't wash. No homosexual male should be anywhere near the Church.
@@Mark_Dyer1 Jesus loves you dear that is what matters love and hugs in Jesus✝️🕎🌹💒♥️🇬🇧🌈🌟🌅✝️
@@valeriesotiropoulos9720 OMG!
He says we shouldn't be tribal or categorical about Charismata (healing, tongues), but wears a dog collar and talks about Anglican rituals
I’m a new Anglican that speaks in tongues. My Anglican bishop prays in tongues. What’s the problem??
HTB, Tongues and Alpha: 1 Corinthians 14 Explained. www.jesusthechristsonofgod.blogspot.com
There's a bloody great threat to God's church! It's called Islam.
I am so happy to be an Atheist.
The reformation a tragedy? Really? Get another job Justin!
Amen
This evasive little squirt doesn't really seem to believe in anything much. At least with Pope Francis, you know where he stands (he is a communist infiltrator masquerading as a Christian). Welby gives the impression that he would make any compromise that seemed expedient with anyone. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up having some awful new world syncretic religion inflicted on us that is made up of some form of of garbled ecumenical Christianity mixed up with bits of Islam and earth worship.
Reformation was a failure. You exchanged on Pope for thousands. One doctrinally failed church for 250000 denominations that are far worse.
I would like to say his opinion matters in public life, but he’s increasingly becoming an irrelevance. And he’s out of step with much of public opinion. The queen really needs to have a word with him.
Is his job to be in line with majority public opinion?
The Queen needs to have a word with herself and leave, taking the C of E with her
Justin Welby is a charlatan, the RCC is not Christian, they have 'another Gospel' -- "The Church cannot sacrifice the truth of the Christian faith and God’s Word for the appearance of union, for true evangelical union is found in the non negotiable doctrines of Christianity. God commands His church to follow Him no matter the cost." -Dr Martyn L Jones
Justin Welby is not a Roman Catholic...just saying :-/
Who said he was?
@@CumbriaPreacher Are you not stating that?
@@deanm6339 Welby claims to be Christian, in possession of the truth. If that were the case he would recognise a false gospel when he hears it and therefore could not claim that the RCC is Christian as he does in the video above.
Do you not agree?
@@CumbriaPreacher the definition of the Catholic Church is the Christian church of which the pope, or bishop of Rome, is the supreme head. It is only the sacraments and in the broadest sense the saints that are different.
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The KJV is the truth, not Substitution Atonement, or being saved by the grace of God alone, or that there is a future return or coming, so read the KJV and be baptised in the Holy Trinity.
I rely on Facts, reason, science and demonstrable proof. Not Myth. Religion does none of these!
If that is true, what are you doing here? I bet you are the type that goes around talking to God explaining why you don't believe in Him.
Which "Bible" does he have. He said nothing about all the end times signs. Or; the rapture, when saints get caught up to meet Jesus in the clouds; the 7 year tribulation; the abomination of desolation when the anti Christ rules on earth and God pours out his wrath on earth; the battle of Megiddo when Jesus/God defeats the wicked with his breath; the millennium reign of Jesus/God on earth. He said nothing about flat earth evidence which supports God's literal account of creation(Edward Hendrie). Also see Ron Wyatt for Biblical locations. For Biblical truth see Ron Rhodes and sandy Armstrong.
This church is all about bringing people together to accept the devil as god and they that do so are doomed.
The Bible doesn't mention any Rapture, in fact Christ prayed for Hus church to remain in the world.