Limit at infinity

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  • čas přidán 5. 11. 2023
  • In this video, I showed how to evaluate a survd limit at negative infinity

Komentáře • 51

  • @junchen9954
    @junchen9954 Před 8 měsíci +38

    I really love how you're doing college level math while approaching everything like you're speaking in front of a bunch of 6th graders. Not the kind of patience and calmness everyone has.

  • @pimp88ziengs
    @pimp88ziengs Před 8 měsíci +12

    I studied math at uni and this video is amazing 👍. The calm, clear and concise explanation is nice.

  • @hipepleful
    @hipepleful Před 8 měsíci +14

    I did it by factoring.
    Ignore the square root, and just focus on whats inside: 4x^14+x^7. Factoring makes it become x^7(4x^7+1). This goes to -inf * -inf, which is just positive infinity. Square rooting a positive infinity still equals infinity.
    Now, to deal right the -2x^7. It is -2*-inf. This is also + infinity.
    Infinity + infinity = infinity. This, the entire limit is infinity.

    • @waltz251
      @waltz251 Před 6 měsíci

      inf * inf = indeterminate form

    • @hipepleful
      @hipepleful Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@waltz251 no its not. It's just infinity.

    • @epikherolol8189
      @epikherolol8189 Před měsícem

      ​@@hipeplefulYeah

  • @Samuel-cl1cv
    @Samuel-cl1cv Před 8 měsíci +8

    I don't know if I'm right but here is how I did it:
    You can guarantee that the expression in the square root will be greater than 0 because x^14 grows faster than x^7. So, the result of the square root will be a positive number.
    As x goes to negative infinity, -2x^7 goes to infinity.
    Therefore, when x goes to infinity, the whole expression goes to infinity.

  • @twinkletoes1588
    @twinkletoes1588 Před 8 měsíci +3

    You are awesome sir! I'm now very intersted in math after your videos! I can't speak your language, but try my best to understand everything you explain

  • @cherryisripe3165
    @cherryisripe3165 Před 5 měsíci

    Very nice problem and brilliant explications. Thanks a lot

  • @saharashara7980
    @saharashara7980 Před 8 měsíci +1

    شكرا استاذ تعلمت منك الكثير

  • @SuperTommox
    @SuperTommox Před 5 měsíci

    I know how to solve these limits but you always find some ways i don't know.
    Love it!
    Especially the way to solve the irrational function towards the end.
    I would have used a change of variable:
    y=(-x)
    So that we have:
    Lim(y->+inf)

  • @malikahashami
    @malikahashami Před 8 měsíci +1

    In the square root it's probably possible to factorise by x^7. This way we can get it to become the sqrt of x^7(4x^7+1) which is plus infinity ,and by adding -2x^7 the result will still be the same mayby.

  • @beezy8551
    @beezy8551 Před 2 měsíci +1

    have my Calculus exam tomorrow and your videos are so consice and easy to understand. And the way youn explain somehow calms my nerves😂.Your videos have come in clutch

  • @user-rq3tl1nk8r
    @user-rq3tl1nk8r Před 3 měsíci

    Very nice thank you.

  • @snowman2395
    @snowman2395 Před 17 dny

    despite being a pre-calc student im really good at guessing these limits and its mostly looking at which x is 'bigger' even tho there both inf

  • @alanwebber238
    @alanwebber238 Před 5 měsíci +1

    To infinity, and beyond . . .

  • @user-pl7tr9dv6l
    @user-pl7tr9dv6l Před 3 měsíci +1

    To all of you who suggested 0.25 as the limit (like I did): that's indeed the limit when x goes to infinity - but not the limit when x goes to negative infinity, as the problem had it 😉 like my math teacher said: "take time to read the problem text carefully". Which I clearly didn't ...

  • @KingGisInDaHouse
    @KingGisInDaHouse Před 8 měsíci

    You can argue that the 14th power is a higher order infinity. Or that the end behavior of the polynomial would tail off at infinity on the right side.
    Delegating that to the reader,
    Lim x->-inf sqrt(4x^14+x^7)-2x^7
    Adding a constant in the radical isn’t going to make a difference
    As the sqrt contains a higher number adding some change doesn’t make a difference
    sqrt(4x^14+x^7+1/16)≈sqrt(4x^14+x^7)
    lim x->-inf sqrt([2x^7+1/4]^2)-2x^7
    |2x^7+1/4|-2x^7
    |-inf|-(-inf)=inf

  • @kellesonekellesonekelleson2405
    @kellesonekellesonekelleson2405 Před 8 měsíci +1

    What background is this?

  • @epikherolol8189
    @epikherolol8189 Před měsícem +1

    We can solve this without any calculations too.
    x¹⁴ is +∞ while x⁷ is -∞ BUT x¹⁴ term's magnitude will be way larger than x⁷ term's magnitude, so we can neglect x⁷ term from square root.
    After neglecting, only square root of 4x¹⁷ - 2x⁷ remains.
    Square root of 4x¹⁷ is -2x¹⁷
    So the result will be -4x¹⁷
    After putting x as -∞, we get ∞+∞ situation, so thst will turn out to be +∞ only.
    So the answer is +∞

  • @skwbusaidi
    @skwbusaidi Před 2 měsíci

    I always prefer to change limit to -inf to inf , specially when there is square root in the problem

  • @user-op2sb4vm2f
    @user-op2sb4vm2f Před měsícem

    Hi, I have an idea.When x approche -Infinity, √(4x^14+x^7) is approximately =√4x^14.Since √4x^14 is positive, so √4x^14=2 (absolute value x )^7, which is positive infinity, and if we -2x^7, it equals to4(absolute value x)^7, which is also positive infinity. I think this way is more simple

  • @gp-ht7ug
    @gp-ht7ug Před 3 měsíci

    I would have solved it like this: let X>0 then I would have divided the radicand by x^14. Then the limit would have been |/(4+1/x^2) - 27x^7 => sqrt(4+0) - 27^-inf > 2+inf => +inf

  • @user-bf4yw9qx5i
    @user-bf4yw9qx5i Před 8 měsíci +1

    Oh man, the limit equals =∞

  • @Bruce-oc9hf
    @Bruce-oc9hf Před 2 měsíci

    well i have diveded by x to the power of 7 and result was -4 . any explination

  • @user-st3ej6bi9b
    @user-st3ej6bi9b Před 7 měsíci

    1/4

  • @user-pl7tr9dv6l
    @user-pl7tr9dv6l Před 3 měsíci +1

    Hello Prime Newton, I like your channel! But, you got this limit wrong.
    One can show that the entire expression never exceeds 1/4 by first just writing the expression under the square root as (2x^7 + 1/4)^2 - 1/16, and then bounding the entire expression from above, as follows:
    √(4x^14 + x^7) - 2x^7 = √((2x^7 + 1/4)^2 - 1/16) - 2x^7 < √((2x^7 + 1/4)^2) - 2x^7 = 2x^7 + 1/4 - 2x^7 = 1/4
    You can actually "see" the limit as well from the modified expression: for large X, the square expression (under the square root) dominates and the impact of subtracting 1/16 is completely negligible, that is, for large X: (2x^7 + 1/4)^2 - 1/16 ≈ (2x^7 + 1/4)^2. This already 'hints' the limit is 1/4. This can also be shown by straighforward algebraic manipulation and use of l'Hospital's rule: first pull out 2x^7 from under the square root, factor the resulting expression (with 2x^7 is a common factor), and then 'flip down' the 2x^7 as 1/2x^7 into the denominator. The resulting expressions tends to "0/0" when x->∞ which means you can apply l'Hospital's rule, and get 1/4 as the limit.

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I remember a similar comment I read about this limit problem. I am pretty sure my steps are correct and my answer is also correct. The graph of the function also confirms the answer. Infinity could be a little tricky. I have had to take down some of my videos because I played with infinity 😭.

    • @user-pl7tr9dv6l
      @user-pl7tr9dv6l Před 3 měsíci

      Ah, you're right. I accidentally took the limit as x goes to infinity, and not to 'negative infinity'. I'm pretty sure the others who suggested 0.25 as the limit did the same thing.

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yes. I realized it after I responded. And the graph actually shows ¼ for positive infinity.

  • @abderrahmanwakrimi
    @abderrahmanwakrimi Před 5 měsíci

    La réponse est évidente.
    +infini-(-infini)=+infini.

  • @anatolysolunin4991
    @anatolysolunin4991 Před 4 měsíci

    I’m afraid, the result is not plus infinity.
    The value under the square root is little more, than 4. So, the square root of it is a little more, than 2. And the bottom tends to 0 from the left, but not from right!

    • @anatolysolunin4991
      @anatolysolunin4991 Před 4 měsíci

      I’m sorry, I was wrong. The value in root less than 4, because of odd degree of one of terms.

  • @user-nk4vd3ow5x
    @user-nk4vd3ow5x Před 7 měsíci

    this is difficult to learn ±∞ and ±√ combo

  • @tomasriquelmeleroy1716
    @tomasriquelmeleroy1716 Před 8 měsíci

    Who else is 17???

  • @hemangkulkarni3947
    @hemangkulkarni3947 Před 7 měsíci

    I believe this answer is wrong i checked with both rationalising and a different method

  • @dmihovilovic
    @dmihovilovic Před 5 měsíci

    Too complicated explanation. Instead sqrt(4x^14+x7) -> 2|x|^7 when x -> -infinity. The second part -2x^7 will go towards +2|x|^7 when x -> -infinity because of the sign. Therefore both together will go to +infinity.

  • @user-ud1zv2yh3r
    @user-ud1zv2yh3r Před 8 měsíci

    This is wrong. The result converges to 0.25. It is incredibly easy to prove this.

    • @bhaskarporey3768
      @bhaskarporey3768 Před 8 měsíci +6

      Then prove it.

    • @sebas31415
      @sebas31415 Před 7 měsíci

      Prove it

    • @khrysztoffe27
      @khrysztoffe27 Před 6 měsíci

      He's correct and you're wrong. Use your calculator to find out that the answer of the limit is +inf regardless of the value of x in the -inf. He proved it perfectly that 1 divided by any number approaching to 0 from the right is +inf.

  • @josefranciscogarduno5278
    @josefranciscogarduno5278 Před 6 měsíci

    You are wrong. Correct answer is 1/4

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  Před 6 měsíci

      Ok

    • @khrysztoffe27
      @khrysztoffe27 Před 6 měsíci

      He's correct and you're wrong. Use your calculator to find out that the answer of the limit is +inf