Mercy's Season Three Mini-Rework - Explained & Thoughts
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- In this video, let's talk about the changes that Mercy will be getting in season 3 of Overwatch 2, which will be dropping soon with a really big patch, whole new battlepass and a new KOTH map called Antarctic Peninsula. Oh boy, these changes are kind of awful!
00:00 - Introduction
00:17 - Changes Explained
00:47 - 1. Guardian Angel Nerfs
04:37 - 2. Healing Changes
06:20 - 3. Regen Passive Changes
08:15 - Overall Thoughts & Conclusion
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Honestly really sad. I'm just gonna stand in the back now..
Mercy mains deserve it
@@emersonargeleon297 ur literally 13
completely deserved
cry me a fucking fountain.
The way everyone was complaining about damage boost and that's the ONLY part they did nothing about 😭 True Blizzard moment
Yeah meta is still sojourn mercy , watch the game go stale in a week again :D
nerf genji
Mercy main value is damage boost, so nerfing it will make her pretty bad real quick.
How about nerfing sojourn instead? Mercy ashe was busted before then ashe got nerfed and mercy is still strong but not broken
so its work
@@jirehemanuel Obviously but DPS mains will cry and shit themselves, so Blizzard seems to want to avoid nerfing the ONE thing everyone agrees upon being busted (one shot railgun). Anyways, maybe they'll change their tune once Solj/Mercy is shown once AGAIN as the meta... Though knowing them, they'll just completely gut Mercy's damage boost instead.
Omg guys let’s remove Mercy’s wings 😊
My favorite thing about Mercy was how fluid her movement was. What are they THINKING??
fr lol. This is going to heavily affect people that play mercy because they genuinely enjoy her kit over the people that just play her because they can't aim.
@@MisandristMercy yeah like me who play doom fight a mercy is horible because of the movement so yeah its a plesure see this nerfs
@@brodestseal6602 Its not up to you to kill Mercy. Even in Gold if i just floated in the air in the open i'd get gunned down. The idea was to use it at the right times or against DPS like Junk and Tracer
Boutta turn into a Lucio main until they nerf his movement too for being "too hard to kill"
@@brodestseal6602 tbh sounds like a skill issue, or you focusing on the wrong things during a fight🤷🏼
If damage boost wasn't a problem until sojourn was introduced, sojourn is the problem. The same thing happened with Ashe. I can't believe they're nerfing mercy into the ground AGAIN.
literally
It wasnt a problem starting with sojourn, but with Ashe.
@crossc1988 ashe was OP to though.
All these mercy mains complaining are hilarious, she was just meta for a whole season and is one of the easiest characters in the game. Mercy shouldn’t be meta because of how easy her kit is to master. All of the other top supports are hard which is how it should be
@@toogud7918 then take away res or literally do anything else. Maybe she wouldn't win as much but she would at least still be fun
They nerfed the least problematic part about her, and she wasn't even that problematic
Her movement wasnt problematic? Everyone was complaining how she just lived forever, I heard from comms multiple times "just ignore the mercy we cant kill her anyways"
@@FWU100 if you can’t kill her really is not the mercy’s problem, is your team’s. Her usefulness relies on staying alive and providing dmg boost utility. You should definitely look into your positioning and engagement, instead of complaining about a character who’s whole contribution to a fight in a really fast paced game is to keep up with mobile characters.
@@Atatatatatatatattata but they buffed ball's cooldowns 💀
@@FWU100 sounds like a skill issue
@@FWU100 thats a straight up skill issue
I am so sick of Blizzard refusing to explain what they want mercy TO DO. What is their VISION for her?
Their visiom for her is for Kiriko to be the popular one, not her lmao.
@@vriskaxtereziotp LOL exactly
Adapt then. Time to use ur brain while playing with this h*e
hopefully they kill off her character in PVE
if you dont think this mercy change is a net buff with all changes considered, you've just ousted youreslf as a sub 2400 sr player. No argument, thanks.
Ow community: we dont like dmg boost is broken
blizzard: okay
nerfs everything, except dmg boost
That, AND they didn't touch Soujourn at all, yknow, the ACTUAL problem.
Note that dmg boost hasnt been touched for years sojourn is the problem not mercy
I will so much pocket boost Sojourn this season just to make it as unpleasant for the enemies as possible. If there will be no Sojourn in my team I will DPS Moria the shit out of them.
@@ctomsky she really really isn’t good now, at least in diamond masters, it’s really difficult to get the railgun in the first place due to the spread and lack of headshot charge. At least for me she’s really mid compared to giga buffed soldier this season
Damage boost is broken, but what's stopping you from countering
The guardian angel nerfs just have me questioning what was their thought process here?!
Also RIP katrina mercy
Hint: They didn't want to nerf Soujourn more >.>
You've gotta understand the perspective of other players. As someone who hasn't played much mercy and mainly goes against her, it can be very frustrating to have to track a mercy that can just slingshot like the game's lagging every 1.5 seconds. I even play a hitscan and it is absolutely ridiculous how hard this character can be to hit. Before you come at me with "skill issue" There are a ton of people at high ranks who also complain about her movement. Another thing is you hardly ever see anyone complaining about Pharah when she can basically fly too, but that's because she has slow enough movement to be somewhat trackable. I don't wanna be put into the role of Mercy fly swatting because the rest of my team can't aim, only to miss shot after shot because the devs decided to give one of the better supports in the game THE best mobility in the game (potentially tied with Lucio).
@@surrealmeme8344 phara has a slower movement, but she can send you to Jesus in two shots.
About the being hard to kill mercy, this change will only make mercys hide behind their dps making them even harder to kill, whilst the previous problem could be solved with aim training.
Lastly, mercy mains also have to deal with mercys and know how it is to kill one. I've killed many mercys and it's not that hard.
I understand it may be different in high ranks, but not only is that a minority, they also have better dps
@@surrealmeme8344 wifi issue, skill issue, mercy is an incredibly easy kill if you know how to play
@@surrealmeme8344 it’s literally a kill Issue u bronze
What makes these changes so weird is making her GA longer and slower contradicts the point of her healing changes. How can I help save teammates if I’m punished but diving in because I’m now stranded for almost 3 seconds? And with how fats past OW2 is 3 seconds can feel like a minute.
I just find it so weird that when it comes to balancing the community can be pretty vocal on what they want to see changed (i.e sojourn’s one shot, mercy damage boost etc.) and blizzard will go “no we like these but here are some other changes so we can bring the characters power level down” except it doesn’t bring their power level down per say it makes them feel weird and clunky to play, which then causes MORE issues. It just such a weird way to balance because even if I understand the intention I can’t help to feel like they don’t fully know what they want to do with the character.
I just don't get why they don't use experimental anymore. Instead of pushing these live so we suffer for at least a couple weeks until the collective rage of every Mercy main forces them to change it, they could have put these in experimental so people could play around with it and tell Blizzard they're shit
@@Ross516 I could be wrong but I believe the experimental card is gone because they are doing more frequent updates. So having the experimental card would be pointless and a waste of resources. Again, I could be wrong, that’s just what I heard.
The thing is who are they listening too with these changes? Because these changes aren’t what mercy and non mercy players asked for. So who was this for?
@digitalpapercut3908 i believe a dev on svb's podcast (dont remember which episode sorry) said that they haven't finished the experimental card for ow2 yet but they're working on getting it up and running. this was the case for workshop as well
@@endless_del oh really? I thought that because of the new program they were using (the one they mentioned a while back that allowed them to change numbers and push changes out quicker) made it so the experimental card wasn’t needed. Because if that’s the case I don’t see a reason for the experimental cards outside of something like a character rework. But I’m not apposed to seeing it brought back.
@digitalpapercut3908 the hotfix system is intended for a different use i think, so they can patch bugs or change really broken characters quickly without having to wait for console patch approval. i could be misremembering the quote, but the dev definitely didn't say it was never coming back
these aren’t nerfs. These are straight up guts. The character is supposed to be quick and agile.
I'm really angry about this GA Change. I started with OW2 and practiced mercy for hours. My movement finally feels so smooth with her and now they are nerfing the GA. Its so hard to defend yourself and now you can't get away fast. When there is a Reaper, Genji or other character on your ass you're dead. It just feels really unfair - the problem was her damage boost and now they nerf the most important part of her - her movement.
especially when moiras try to flank you… it’s already hard enough to get away now but it’s going to be even harder. it’s so frustrating.
@@francina8675 yes so annoying when she sucks you out from fucking narnia. But that is okay for blizzard I guess.
i picked up mercy a week ago and invested 10 hours into her and this is the only change i've seen that has made me actually want to quit ow2
i would've been completely fine with a res or damage boost nerf but mercy's mobility is the one thing she has
also kiriko can tp through walls and across the map every 8 seconds why is mercy's mobility a problem
@@log3ckert386 LITERALLYYY
At least you guys didn't have to learn ow1 doomfist rollouts for hundred hours,then to be deleted from the game
thank you blizzard, making mercy unplayable again! i love this game, changing her GA which is the main part of her kit, so smart
@@crumbcrumb1557 wrong video to comment this under. It’s hard to keep adjusting to a hero that gets changed constantly. They did a bad job, deal with it
@@crumbcrumb1557 Mercy takes a lot of time, skill and effort to learn. These nerfs will be game changing and affect Mercy for however long they last. Instead of interacting with something you hate, keep it to yourself.
@@crumbcrumb1557 Cassidy main who couldn't hit a mercy🤡
@@crumbcrumb1557 she's easy to play, hard to master kind of character, meaning that playing her to fullest potential isn't exactly easy
@@crumbcrumb1557 of course we are mad about this because mercy was not broken in any way, but they just had to nerf everything but the actual part of her kit that people are complaining about, i ask how would you react with your main getting nerfed hard for no reason?
What?? Genuinely shocked Mercy got nerfed after being a fair character in the hero roster for years. I understand the 1 shot drama and such. But, why? Climbing with support is a pain, and now we have struggle even more (especially as Mercy is very team dependent). She's already a difficult character to master for newbies, and now the struggle is real! I now understand why new players would pick the more easy-to-play supports. Thank you for uploading this, Niandra, or I never would have known!
Fair character? She was the most picked support besides the new broken one with invincible teleports. She was unkillable. she is taken every game because pocketing is so effective as a concept. its impossible to kill anyone she is healing. and then its impossible to kill her. so now no one dies on the enemy team unless you also take a mercy and sojourn to one shot her out of the sky. thats the whole problem with the game. it's laid out plain for everyone to see
and now they just made her heal her targets more, making them more unkillable. and also made mercy more unkillable. so this problem is just about to get stupid, unless everyone convinces themselves that mercy is "nerfed" now and stops playing her. which will probably happen because this is overwatch and no one has a brain, they just choose characters to follow the leader (favorite streamer)
as you can see. junker queen is the new character everyone is playing, because streamers have been telling everyone this is what to think. thats why they keep buffing her. as it stands junker queen is unbelievably broken, she is unkillable with all her self sustain. but since streamers are saying she's fun and needs to get buffed. she will keep getting buffed. let's follow the leader everyone
This is why we wrote the history in books, so the children of tomorrow will learn from past mistakes.
Mercy was impossible to balance from day 1 OW1.
Also in the mission of keeping her noob friendly they couldn't just rework her; so every time a new problem happens she was there to make them worse with little to no effort in most ranks.
@@tomatoesofdoom agree with mercy but junker queen is BAD
And not a single streamer told me so (And i find her so boring to play)
@@tomatoesofdoom dude mercy was not unkilable, she has one of the most easy hitboxes and u just dont actually understand what is the problem, her movment was not, her dmg boost and rezz was, nerf those, not the part that makes her actually playable in the fast phase game overwatch is now
They buffed the pistol but now they nerfed battle mercy in Valkyrie, which BTW is when most people even think of using the pistol. Pistol Mercy in valkyrie is literally almost just regular mercy coming at you now if she doesn't have the regen. Like ?????
They really said "Hey sorry we made your character easier to kill because the DPS players were crying that they can't hit their shots"
If even the best hitscans in the world find it a challenge, there is probably an issue.
@@adeeshadeegala5900 Maybe consider that they're having an issue hitting those mercy's because the mercy's they play against are at the same rank as them & many of them specialize that hero & mastered the movement.
@@RoboVirtue Good ol' survivorship bias.
RIP Zen/Mercy and Brig/Mercy, I will miss you 🥲 Also I would have taken a 10 second rez cooldown nerf over this 1 sec GA nerf any day
THIS!
i honestly wouldve given up a lot instead of this 1 sec GA nerf. thats the most fun part of mercy!!!!! take away her other numbers but leave me my GA :_:
Literally it’s gonna just be Kiriko and Lucio Meta for another whole season.
@@KoiPuff AND ....sojourn 🤡
@@quriguess8189 If you think Moira is harder to play than Mercy, please stop playing this game.
Flying around like an army jet while the enemy trys to catch you is why mercys fun and is her only way to stay alive, thats how mercys mastery works now shes going to have to sit in the backline where her beam can reach
Exactly. This is exactly what made the fun. 2 hitscans on your a55 and you try to use every obstacle on the map to somehow stay alive.
This has the potential to make her a throw pick with absurdly low survivability.
I just find it interesting that they had acknowledged how hard support players have it, then they turn around and nerf them and exacerbate those issues. Make it make sense..
@@AntiangelRaphael I'm not convinced she's even going to be able to keep up with a pharah. Can absolutely see her getting stranded as the pharah gets out of her GA range while she waits on the CD, assuming she can even stay airborn in the first place.
Beyond that though, because of the buffs to ball, sombra, and several hitscans, all of which she was already pretty vulnerable to, I see her survivability plummeting. I mean she was already really easy to kill midair for any half decent hitscan. She was also very vulnerable to being chased by divers, even with GA as frequently available as it was. Now both of those problems are going to be even worse.
Meanwhile like you said, she's going to fall into the niche of pocketing even more, which was what people had been complaining about to begin with.. these changes just don't make any sense. The only scenario I can think of is that this is some sort of... kill her pick rate to make people more excited about the two upcoming supports.. or something? Even that wouldn't make much sense. I think they're just smoking crack to be honest.
@@bensenigaglia755’m totally fine with killing her pick rate. She is not fun to play against because pocketing a dps can overcome a skill gap between two opposing dps. The change will hopefully make it so mercy mains switch to brig or zen who see very low pick rates
The GA nerf is the most ridiculous balance choice I have ever seen with this character. They have taken all the fluidity out of her movement. I honestly think that she has been dumpstered.
"Just please don't touch her movement"
Blizzard:
‘The healing and regeneration changes interesting but I just don’t care because of GA nerfs’ yup exactly how I feel
I want to know what made them choose 45 over 50 hps, and 2.5 over 2 seconds!
they want her nerfed into the ground and dont play their own game
@quriguess ur 14
@quriguess8189Learn to aim
@quriguess and I want you gone why are you in everyone’s replies like go celebrate with a party and cake or something 💀
Yeah I made a comment about how she got nerfed to 50 hps and was considered a throwpick and scapegoat all the time.
Very generous of the dev team to make her easier to kill for the DPS.
I said this back when they did the superjump rework, but it legitimately feels like nobody on the balance team has ever played Mercy in their lives. What's the goal here, honestly?
Also, why hit her with several nerfs at once? The healing nerf is fine actually imho, healing isn't her focus anyways but it gives you a bit of room to save someone who might need it if your other support is dead or out of position or an Ana with bad aim. The passive removal is... odd? Like, it was already worse than it was in OW1, but now what am I supposed to do when nobody needs healing LMAO. Just accept death I guess.
Honestly my only hope is that it gets so bad that Blizzard finally considers actually thinking over her kit a bit more significantly in the future. Maybe they'll finally remove rez and give her a more useful ability.
If they remove Rez, then Blizzard needs to also change her name because she'll no longer be offering "mercy" to anybody.
@@timrich7861 her glock now heals the enemies for 1hp
@@KiaSoulEV-rt4sg if you look at the enemy they get full healed
So they nerfed every part of her kit except what was being complained about? Blizzard strikes again. No one is happy with this change, not the people who play her nor the people who were complaining about her. Instead of listening to our feedback on how to change mercy to make everyone happy they spit in our faces and changed her for the worst.
Mercy once got a nerf to 50 hps and she was considered a throwpick for so long that they had to give her a Valk revert so she could heal 60 in valk and build ult charge as if she was healing 60 hp out of valk and she was still considered pretty bad and they eventually buffed her to 55hps because 50 was just not working out much and now they are trying to make it 45! That is like only 1.5 times more than a zen orb that is crazy! Lol
THANK YOU. It’s like people have forgotten just how bad she was when they nerfed her healing down once before. Unless that critical health healing thing is really going to make a huge difference, this looks like it’s going to make Mercy even worse than she was that time they already tried nerfing her healing this severely.
I could genuinely care less about what they do to Mercy's abilities as long as the keep her mobility. The mobility is the reason I play mercy and the only thing that is actually fun in overwatch rn for me. Pls blizzard, keep her movement.
I don't quite understand why they nerfed her? She's not dominating higher levels of play and apart from metal ranks she generally can be dealt with and has limitations. Especially the movement being nerfed? it's predictable movement a lot of the time and she doesn't heal fast enough by herself in a way that would make her impossible to kill as a genji for example.
She got nerfed because *sojourn* is dominating at high ranks, and mercy enables her.
@@kevingriffith6011 it’s like the ashe situation, literally just nerf sojurn to fix it
@@kevingriffith6011 but then why didn't DMG boost get the nerf?
@@kevingriffith6011 makes zero sense. Its like how they buffed Orisa to handle hog in S2, before the hog nerf. Band-aid fixes before the actual & REQUIRED nerfs. I think they use this tactic to bide time when making balance changing decisions.
What happened to their recent discussion/promise of MINOR changes over many patches? These changes are not minor at all. They significantly change how you have to play Mercy 😕 annoying af
@@calford2001 Because blizzard gave her 5 more bullets in her pistol. That should tell you everything you need to know about how much logic and reason goes into these changes.
I already set my expectations real low for Blizzard and yet they still manage to underperform. God DAMMIT, it feels like they did Mercy so dirty with this! I could get behind the slower backwards GA, and maybe the removal of the passive regen of Valk, but the 1 sec CD increase of GA is where I draw the line!
Guess I'll just go be a DPS Moira or something instead.
I’m actually going to cry. She’s my favorite hero. 1k hours and they need her for no reason. I can’t do this. And knowing them they won’t change it.
The only way Mercy was viable in Ow2 it was because of how fast and slippery she felt. The +1 sec on GA and the atrocious less speed when backwards will make her really...really bad. Guess we have to start getting used to the new changes,again.
Just turn your camera around instead of going backwards. Speed is not affected like this. I already mainly do this and made it to diamond in solo queue
You can't have mobility with such a low skill / high reward movement.
less slippery but more tanky ought to even itself out. Adapt your playstyle or maybe start actually playing the remaining 97% of the roster. Thats coming from top 400 mercy player
I've just switched to Koriko and Moira
I actually like the healing passive, but the guardian angel change makes me think she will feel so much more "stiff"
The healing passive feels kinda weird tho. Its basicly telling u to heal more while they're giving mercy lower healing numbers its Just dumb
@@toes9208 Yeah, that’s true, the only thing i actually feel an improve to mercy would be that her survivability in valk will increase a lot (Not that she actually needed this healing change) but it will be kind of cool to survive a lot of things just by healing (Still not the point of mercy)
Anything will feel "stiff" when you've gotten used to her broken zero cooldown movement ability
@@Kurppalumppu Well, it’s not broken at all, it’s literally the main ability in her whole kit, it’s like saying lucio's speed is broken, Moira's Fade, Kiriko's teleportation, Ana's Grenade, and a lot more, it’s not broken at all, she depends on her mobility to involve or to get out
@@yeyooo841 Your main ability is latch to someone as a mosquito and deny enemy progress.
I didn't think they would ever kill the character that has kept me from uninstalling all these years, but here we go. I'm speechless.
Just started in January and now I don't want to play anymore 😭
Maybe play another Hero as well? not the first time a hero got nerfed
Same
Bye :)
@backstabber3537 mercy is the only fun one though and she really isn't OP. She was considered the worst support until sojourn got "nerfed".
Really interested to see how she feels after the GA changes. Like you said, mercy in OW1 could not keep up so they added more movement to GA. For that time to be essentially doubled…yikes. I do like the healing rework. 67 hps is very high outside of ult and 90 hps in valk is very very good. Very interesting !
Catch me tanking visor as mercy while I heal all 4 of my teammates 💀
Lmfaoooooooo I’m goneeeee😂
honestly big mood haha. especially because sometimes soldiers will hold onto visor until mercy valks during a team fight.
.......... no I have never done this exact thing when I play soldier against a mercy just because I know how impactful mercy can be, why do you ask 😂
@quriguess She is, you're just bad. Genuine skill issue. Sorry.
The problem will be with keeping low health characters alive. It's very easy to blow through a 200 hp character in seconds and if someone is getting shot at you'll basically have to stick to them until they're not because topping them off is more slow now. Or risk going somewhere else and them getting shot as soon as you move away.
And encouraging healing people at critical health... then making it harder to run away because of the GA nerf? Bwuh.
@quriguess i love people like you tattling how bad their aim is.
I’m a Genji main who never plays Mercy, but genuinely enjoy your content to the point that when Mercy gets something new, I have to hear your opinion on it. When I saw these changes, I immediately thought of the MEGA nerfs Genji got during the first season of OW2. Blizzard needs to listen and communicate better with players who know these characters and their play styles inside and out. I do genuinely hope that because Genji and Mercy are much more popular with the fan base, they’ll consider slightly reverting some of these changes to both heroes.
It’s kinda funny that you (a Genji main) watches a Mercy channel because of the relationship that Genji and Mercy have in lore.
@@genghiskhan6809 lol true. I just find it interesting to hear about how other players feel about certain heroes. It gives me insight as to how others play and what makes a hero FEEL good or bad to the player.
It feels a little cruel to take away something so many mercy players were excited for when ow2 came out. They way her movement was before really helped with the fact that mercy is everyone's #1 target in matches. Like I didn't care that the whole enemy team was breathing down my neck because I knew I could get out of it safely. I'm concerned about the direction we are headed in now though.
literally, the whole other team just stares at you in the air and knows your a threat, but guardian angel saves you. They're still gonna target mercy, they're just gonna successfully kill her most of the time now... smh
as a top 400 mercy player its a net buff for me. Mercy OTPs are notorious for being unable to adapt. Start with yourself.
@@reformedtoxic4222 no way you're seriously a pick me mercy main
@@reformedtoxic4222 We don't care that you're a Top 400 player, you're not a big streamer, you're not a big CZcamsr and you're not a professional player, you're a nobody, just like the other 99% of us. The only relevant difference is that you're a nobody with an unpopular opinion. Stop acting like your opinion is special, it isn't any more special than a Bronze 5 players opinion. Don't @ me either because I'm not reading it, not until you get back into reality like the rest of us.
@@funlyrix675 i'm not , ive had a primary mercy play time in only 1 season
if the devs really wanted mercy to be a sitting duck they could just cut her wasd movement once she's out of spawn. Just from looking at the nerfs on paper she feels useless and tbh I don't think she needed any changes as she felt pretty balanced.
Also I 100% agree about experienced players doubling down on damage boost.
As a mercy main who only started playing in OW 2 this is killing me😭
Me too. I was even looking to go compete this season as Mercy.
Welcome to the Mercy gong show! 😒…..She was the only character I played for years…my advice to cope with the insanity….make your secondary a dps Moira. Let out that frustration. Lol. You’re welcome. 😂
@@jasondavid4375 or, even better, play another game, let the queue go to 7 minutes for support, then they either do something about it or let the game die, and because blizzard is greedy, the won't let the game die
@@danieltdgames7602 very good point considering Blizz made 100 million in the last quarter. 👍
I think we need to make it clear that these are bad changes, and the best way to do that other than getting the word out is for all Mercy mains to just stop going into support queue. There's a lot of us, if we all switch to DPS and Tank only it could make a very noticeable difference in queue times.
Lmao the ultimate troll
I myself have over 150 hours this season on mercy and on multiple accounts (different ranks). If I stop myself I’d make such a noticeable difference xd But it’s hard for me because I’m a fresh graduate and I don’t have a job rn + I love overwatch! But I’m highly concerned rn I think it would be worse than mercy ow1 for sure, she would feel very slow because of the increased ga cooldown thats a HEAVY NERf I think mercy was fine idk why the hell they nerfed her and left ana all alone when she has been meta since season 19 that’s pretty sad ngl
I'm switching to DPS. They fucked over Kiriko and now Mercy. I don't like how slow Kiriko feels. She was my main. Now they make Mercy clunky. I liked them because they flowed well.
Please dont q support. not because I care about mercy mains but because they deserve less
oh no the mercy mains are angry.
shame cuz mercy is meta.
oh wait...
I became really burnt out with ow during season 2 but was ready to jump back once season 3 started after taking a little break. But now seeing this, I’m immediately discouraged again. These changes are outright awful. Blizzard is once again proving that they understand nothing about their own characters 👏
I'd still give it a try atleast.
Wonderful your gold teammates will miss you
@@MicahBell763the hell is your problem weirdo?😂
@@MicahBell763 haha how cute of you to assume that I play comp with the awful state it’s in. Cause yes that’s another thing blizzard screwed up with ! sorry if that hurts your feelings I know the truth can be hard to accept 🥺
Same, i already didnt like the new way she worked and now i dont feel like ever coming back to the game :p
blizzard coming through once more to show us they don't know how to balance!! 😍😍
As a Mercy main, this is just so depressing. What feels great about playing Mercy is the swift movement.
Considering they didn't touch her dmg boost at all (you know.. the thing everyone was complaining about for three months) I completely agree this will encourage hard pocketing even more lol. I probably will just stick to Kiriko when solo queueing and only play her when I have a dps duo who can reliably make use of dmg boost
also the nerf on backwards ga will unproporinately affect console players. im a console mercy and backwards ga is the main way i get around because controller limits me from 180's and other fast movements, so the crutch was backwards ga. i cant 180 quickly :(
She's prolly gonna feel very slow and sluggish and the only thing making mercy fun is flying all over the place trying to heal and dmg boost everyone without getting shot
Happy to see the main voices of the Mercy community voicing their discontent which we can all agree completely changes Mercy for the worse and goes against what brought a lot of people to her in the first place. I personally plan to be extremely vocal on any platform that I can about reverting changes or at least making it not so severe ie 1.8-2 seconds. I encourage everyone to do the same the more voices we have denouncing these changes the better of a chance they actually listen. we will have to see how it plays out but from the sounds of it I might just start playing kiriko which I do NOT want to do.
That awkward moment when damage boost was the biggest complaint but wasn't touched (only what keeps mercy alive)
AUGH im literally so sad that they did this. i felt it coming and im extremely annoyed how blizzard seems to pick and choose what to do. mercy is already the biggest target and the fact that now its harder to escape danger is genuinely upsetting.
as a mercy main for years, i think this is probably gonna feel the worst out of everything they've done with her tbh
These nerfs might be the thing to make me quite this game for good
See you!
This is... devastating. I haven't played the last couple of weeks because I've just been burnt out on the game. I was actually looking forward to picking it back up, but with this, I think I'll stick with Stardew Valley for a while...
tf is this passive nerf???? what were they thinking???????????????????????
THEY GAVE EVERYONE MERCY’s PASSIVE AND YHEN TOOK IT AWAY FROM HER??? Wtf??????????!!!!?!?!?!?!!?!
This makes me sad to be honest. Genuinely. They know better than doing these things yet they give in to people crying. It's sad that no matter how wrong they are, there's nothing we can do about it. I guess it's time to say goodbye to Mercy. Overwatch 2 is just Overwatch with new maps and a robot push mode. I'm starting to think it's time to just say goodbye to Overwatch.
As a master player I won't be able to play mercy anymore.. They completely destroyed her. I'd rather have her dmg boost reworked or nerfed rather than her mobility.. Hope they go back on theses and see that she will do bad on their data.
I got this notification and started to cry
Mercy main since original overwatch: how many time will they have to clip my wings
as a mercy main, and someone who’s mained her since overwatch 1, honestly her health-related changes seem like a very fun and creative idea. i like the sort of “heal me and you get to benefit as well” and i do think it MIGHT cut down on the damage boosting problem, so it’ll increase her survivability, (even though her damage boost isn’t the problem, sojourn is). however the GA nerfs are… really going to hurt. 3 seconds is way too long, 2 seconds would be pretty manageable but jeez. because of how fast paced overwatch 2 is, she is going to suffer. it’s going to be very hard to survive as mercy now, and we’re going to be forced to play natural cover or just heal pocket so we can tank like 90% of damage. these changes are going to drive mercy pickrates into the ground, hopefully blizzard changes them accordingly because they’re going to get a TON of complaints. btw, to all of you praising the GA nerfs, maybe it’s a you problem because you refuse to switch to a hitscan to try to counter mercy.
not the movement nerf! it was literally my favorite part about mercy T.T I'm so sad
I never played or tried mercy before season 2 in overwatch, and then I had a blast! I am so sad to see my new favourite hero get gunned down like this. I guess I'll play mah boy Zen again in season 3
I think what they could've added is to get the GA back to 2sec when I valk, so the problem of not GAing directly after Rez is gone, coz if they want te valk to be used more defensively, they should've added more of her defensives with less GA CD in valk
Only the OW 2 balance team is capable of changing something nobody asked for
Man. It'd be a real shame if all the mercy players stopped playing Overwatch for a month. I'm sure the tanks and DPS won't mind the change in queue times.
The thing every mercy main agreed on was that we didnt want the movement changed. Most peoples complaints were with rez and with damage boost. What are they thinking???
Yeah… I don’t think I’m ever coming back to this game. Which sucks because I love Overwatch and it still means a lot to me but Mercy’s “updated” movement is a nightmare and the treatment of supports in general is abhorrent. It’s like Blizzard is TRYING to make the role unplayable.
I would have accepted it if they had put GA up to a 2 second cooldown, but they literally increased the cooldown time by 66%
Bro I need to find a support that not getting nerfed every update
Yesterday I snuck in a few games without checking the changes first(which I often do to see if I can figure out changes by myself and not get biased by sheer numbers). Need less to say, I felt like piloting a dead fish through the air and "clunky" is a nice description for what they did to Mercy. With superjump still no official part of her kit (!) it feels like a lame excuse to buff her in that way and it feels like no one who ever played Mercy more than once or twice could have made these decissions. I can only imagine it was meant to make other mobile healers (Kiriko?) a more popular choice than actually balancing Mercy's abilities. :(
Ditto so much of what you said in your conclusion! Most of these changes I’m fine with, I LOVE the healing more when under 50% health, I’ve been suggesting that FOREVER as a change for her. But all I can think about is the mobility nerf & how that takes away such a fun part of Mercy’s kit. It feel like it’s even contradictory to the “under 50% healing” buff. Because like, it would incentivize you to be a little more risky, push up to a flanking character who’s critical, heal them to about half, then turn & run back to safety. But if you have to wait twice as long to GA away from the flanker & back to safety, or use them to GA & use a Mercy trick to get in a safe position, why would you risk it to take advantage of that new change, you know? I would have zero issues with these changes if it weren’t for the GA nerf. That’s the best part of her kit along with damage boost in my opinion. 😞
does anyone feel like Blizzard's team is the only ones who doesn't know about how their characters played??
if these changes go through, then ill actually quit Ow2.. Mercy was the most fun character to play and they literally punched her into the abyss.
Oh my gosh now everyone will hate mercy more because a lot of people get mad at me for how I can't move around and with this change it's going to be so much harder
can’t wait to see if this is another change they backpedal on in the future because their decisions never seem to go well imo
Back to moira I go
next mercy change > Overwatch decides to make her pistol do 50 dmg body ( would be gamebreakingly fun)
I feel like the movement changes are encouraging the issue people had with her first iteration where she was hiding all the time. Because now her movement will be put on reserve to get her out of line of sight and away from the enemy rather than doing all these daring plays/rezzes. It's not worth the risk anymore so now you have an Orisa bongo with legs and asthmatic wings
Next patch = Blizzard removes her wings
This guardian angel nerf fully makes me believe that the balance team fully believe Mercy players should be using her gun as their primary tool instead of the staff. Going to be interesting for this in the game for at minimum a month, if not probably 2 months. By interesting I mean really terrible because unlike DPS in some games you HAVE to play Mercy.
Personally I think the healing change would be great IF they hadn't nerfed GA. She could really move around, heal critical heroes and escape.
I’m done playing support. Playing support just sucks it doesn’t feel rewarding the match making sucks. Every since OW2 came out I’ve been playing the game less and less. There’s really no point in comp when you are being forced on 50% winrate.
this is actually insane… like how is the GA cooldown needed
Notice how they nerfed mercy but NOT sojourn? Blizzard we learned that mercy isnt the problem when ashe came out
The ga changes enrage me so badly but the healing changes and the Regen changes are weird but I'm intrigued
First the sombra rework in ow2 and now this? They really like changing my fav heroes to a point where i dont enjoy em anymore huh
So the biggest problem with the GA and Rez interaction is that you aren't vulnerable while rezzing for the duration of rez, you are now vulnerable for the duration of rez plus the extra second it takes GA to come off cooldown. That's 3 whole second that they can just come in and punish you for daring to bring back a teammate. Rez was very risky anywhere near battle before and this comes from a master of the Cheeky Rez. I'm not sure even I will be able to pull off more than 1 or 2 rezzes in the whole game let alone get any clutch ones even if the enemy team is absolutely braindead. There's almost no way to survive Resurrect now unless you get a perfectly safe rez or just use it to bring back a teammate from spawn faster between fights. Rez was already high risk high reward. It is now higher risk with almost no reward and guaranteed death.
God, I’ve always been so scared of comp, but I should have played it while my main was still viable. Feels terrible man
Watch me play Moira now and do the dmg I used to boost as Mercy, have "more" heal output and movement that isn't team based
Blizzard rlly said "Sojourn is good so mercy is good....... hmmm time to nerf mercy"
Well time to quit it's truly been fun but I'm done with this game honestly hope u dps mains are happy complaining and getting anything u want. But yea niandra love the content truly you have helped me more than u know when it comes to mercy so thank you.
I think they tried to indirectly nerf damage boost, these changes make it look like they want you to heal more often and not damage boost as often making it used less instead of changing it ( I think this is what they were aiming for ) the guardian angel changes tho I think I get it. It might be to try to make mercy harder to kill with the new way to self heal from healing others. So basically when a mercy gets shot instead of Guardian Angeling away to safety she is instead encouraged to heal teammates so that she can take the damage
Basically I think they want to make mercy tankier which is wierd
@@yoshi8780 I agree. I feel like it’s a werid change, why make her tankier?
(Assuming it’s a scenario where your teammate is even low enough for you benefit off of, but you’ll most likely be benefited more than less.)
"Lets take Mercy, a character who runs like she's always facing into the wind, and take away the only aspect of her kit that gives her mobility and survivability." -The Blizzard balance team
Got these are the worst changes I've ever seen from Blizzard. They really don't know how to balance a game properly
blizzard leave mercy the fuck alone challenge...
They’ve never been able to balance her. They’re always opposite about what Mercy mains want.
Mercy Mains: We play Mercy because we like her movement!
DPS Mains: MOTH HARD TO SHOOT AT! WONT DIE FAST!
Devs: We hear you both… so we’re gonna give the DPS mains what they want. Also we buffed Cassidy and no Sojourn nerfs :)
I am growing increasingly skeptical that blizzard plays their own game. WHO ASKED FOR THESE!? Did they talk with Niandra or Ski or Somnus about making these changes?
I mean tbf they aren’t entitled to being informed of every mercy change ever…they don’t consult mains for any other hero why should mercy be any different
@@maireadhudson8995 Because unfortunately it's been proven that Blizzard is just objectively not good at balancing. To summarize a quote from Neil Gaiman another comment mentioned: They understand there is a problem, but they don't understand what it is, nor how to fix it. Viveros even made a video dissecting the balance logic and why it's affected by survivorship bias. It's not that they are obligated to contact pros when about to nerf their character, but they certainly could use a second opinion considering they've shown they clearly can't do it right by themselves.
But all aside: Assuming they were trying to fix damageboost, they literally nerfed her in almost every situation where she wouldn't be damageboosting. Whether or not boost was the problem doesn't even matter at that point; their solution is just contradictory.
Wow I’m so glad they touched sojourn a lot mhm mhm
i love that they gave mercy a cute skin right after this all got out. like "look! look mercy mains! look how cute the little mercy bee is, we don't REALLY hate you :)" it just feels so backhanded :(
Well we have to pay real money for skins now so I don't see getting new skins as a favor.
Playing in gold, I really fear the buffed healing below 50% makes enemies completely unkillable when a mercy is attached.
I wonder if the other superjump where you look up instead of the manual crouch is also nerfed, or it doesnt count as a superjump so it still goes far.
Now i can emagine all Sombras killing as when we try to rez during the waiting for this last 1 sec GA...