High Performance RE Classic 350? Cam, FuelX, Pipe, Filter & More = More Power - Wahoo!
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- High performance Classic 350, is that an oxymoron? This little Classic has had a few things added...including speed. Wahoo!
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The best thing was your laughter of joy, this is something that only motorcycles can bring it to your life :)
Love the RE motorcycles. Truly fun machines. Wahoo!
@@forgottenmotorcycles indeed they are, in India i am fortunate who used to ride 1984 model Royal Enfield standard, that thump on low RPM is like a heart beat :)
Great to see Americans riding something other than a Harley.
That Enfield is the kind of bike our fathers and grandfathers rode post war in races, offroad, scrambles etc
These are perfect back country road bikes.
I love them. Wahoo!
@@michaelmurdock4607
I‘m on the way to do the same…
I have a 2005 Sportster 1200 custom that I think I will try to make a deal😊
American bikes just wont cut it for me. Too big, too fat, too slow, poor gas mileage, simply dont perform. For me its all British bikes. My bike is a Triumph T120 and hopefully soon the Classic 350.
Well, now you need the 410cc Big Bore set from Himalayan Tools. Three things that make the engine stronger: Displacement, displacement, displacement!
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Welcome to vibration city
@@CosmicSeeker69 not on our BB kit, not even on the 500cc
there IS replacement for displacement
I own a Classic 500 and an Int 650. I test rode a Classic 350. For me, it was the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden. The seating position is perfect. The engine is smooth. The suspension supple, the transmission and clutch clean and predictable, the saddle was incredibly comfortable. I was thinking of trading in my Int 650 for one of these, the Int. doesn't fit me.. the riding position, the reach to the bars, the pegs.. very tangled up. I struggled the 350 up to 60mph and was thinking, if only it had TWO more horsepower.. Just TWO... it would be perfect...
It's funny that you say "two more hp" that was kind of the running joke when the owner of this bike was doing all the mods "just two more hp". I think he may have doubled that. Wahoo!
@@forgottenmotorcycles The ease with which you can increase it's performance gives me ideas. A taller final drive would help overcome the problems of the Rev limiter.
@@stevenmiller184
It isn’t a rev limiter - it’s a speed limiter which gets its signal from the front brake abs…
Will be very difficult to work around this!
Soon they would be releasing a classic 650
I just did the DNA filter and plate upgrade on my Meteor 350, I expected it do nothing and was pleasantly surprised. Pulled noticeably harder and power band didn't taper off all the way up to the speed limiter at 74MPH. Well worth it
I'm thinking about trying one on my Classic. If it does well on the Meteor is should help the Classic too. Thanks!
And then you woke up.
You should consider what I call the holy trinity of upgrades for the J-series engine, de-cat exhaust system and the fuel X along side the dna performance air filter and cover, and see the difference in throttle response and the willingness to pull through the gears and especially up hills 😊
Did you put dna filter and plate only? Did not ecu remap? I have meteor 350 i am curious.
@@JokicSlobodan no re-map necessary, personally I fitted the red rooster exhaust from India and the fuel X lite, with the dna performance air filter and cover, but the ecu is a learning unit, as required since about 2015 on bikes, so there is nothing else to do ☺️
Great video. I would do the same mods and add an oil cooler and oil temp gauge. Both are available. Also love the military! Great times there for a long time!
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Tengo una RE Classic 350 Signal, Tormenta de Arena 2023.Estoy encantado como anda.
Un fuerte abrazo desde Bs. As. Argentina.
El Paracaidista
Beuno! Un fuerte abrazo desde Iowa! Wahoo!
I have a desert sand signals model. Have the air filter upgrade, will not go further, as I like the laid back character and sound, it de-stresses me. Your one is now the Hyde to my jekyll! 😊
I like that Hyde to Jekyll Wahoo!
The sound man! Sounds like old Triumph carbed twin, gnarly. I love it 👏👏
Absolutely love the sound of this hot rod
WOW! That Sounds & Looks fantastic What a smashing bike am seriously gonna look at this little thumper thanks for the Video Fuzzy 👍🏻
These bikes are a bunch of fun. Wahoo!
The little 350 that could. I think I can I think I can. Now it knows it can. 😊
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@@forgottenmotorcycleshi buddy I'm from India I ride royal enfield 350 standard rite side gear bs3 bike its awesome bike u should try that one also its awesome Enfield is India's harlydavidson.and this bike Is now getting more polpularity in western country also.u should rode rite side geared Enfield.
Nice upgrades, must be a fun ride, the closest thing to a classic 350 that i rode was a bmw r25, imagine a royal Enfield even in stock form, must be a hoot to ride, i'm seriously considering this 350 for my old self 😊
I have a stock RE Classic 350 that I use almost daily. Great bike. Wahoo!
OOOOOOH Want to get me one of them cams for my Hunter, great vid, good to hear you having fun, Peace, Love and Happiness from the UK
This bike is a hoot. Wahoo!
Great performance upgrades! Ready for a Great Escape run. 😊
Sounds like this bike might do it. Wahoo!
Always like your post mate.
Done the DNA filter will fit the fuel X lite and the Hitchcock de cat pipe.
But wont bother with the Hitchcock cam even though it certainly tweaks up the performance.
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The Cam really changes the engine a lot. I'd do it but love the current feel/attitude of the Classic. I do need that DNA filter. Wahoo!
What a nice sound from the silencer
She's a beauty!
I have a 2012 classic chrome 500. This cam and added upgrades sounds like to boosts the 350 to 500 performance. That and with the smoother ride has me very interested in selling my classic for this one
Keep the 500, add the 350?
@@forgottenmotorcycles yep just as soon as i win the lotto.
Awesome review of the bike !. I'm definitely getting one!!
Good choice!
Don’t forget the 16 tooth front sprocket 💪😎
Sounds like fun!
Sounds like my old BSA single, from way back when....Nice !
Very nice!
The meteors, classic and hunter 350 in Brazil don't have the limit speed at 75 mph, these modifications on a Meteor here can run up from 75 mph easily! The camshaft is my dream modification for my Meteor!
Fun motorcycles, for sure. Wahoo!
Do 70mph all day.
Great mods on bike.
This is how it should be 4-5hp is a huge gain & having cam it'll rev right out.
I love that colour.Need to get a hack done on ECU to remove limiter on speedo.
Meteor 350 is limiter is at 75mph instead of 70mph might be able to use Meteor 350 ECU or Hunter ECU.With cam do 70mph all day on Classic 350 & not so 3thrifty anymore.
She ran grand! Wahoo!
@@ruahinesrider the hunter has same motor and tranny. My next idea is to swap ecu with a hunter. I bet that removes speed limiter.
@@mattfisher506 the hunter has a smaller front wheel so using a hunter ECU might trick a Classic into thinking its going slower than it actually is rather than actually removing the speed limiter. So theoretically it should still go faster, maybe?
Not sure if this would also make the speedo run slower.
Hopefully someone who has access to both a hunter and a Classic will try swapping the ECU to see if it works, I suspect buying one to test the theory might be a bit of an expensive mistake if it doesn't work.
*What an amazing sound !*
Beautiful!
I got this today. Great bike. Hope to ride by you soon
You're going to love it :-) where are you located?
Have been looking for someone who has fitted this cam....nice
Very nice
Fuzzy Bigfoot! Advocate of World reknown Royal Enfield motorcycles and Master of figure 8's in the middle of the Road. Sharp looking ride and the sound....😜 SMOOTH.
Love these bikes!
Hitchcock or Tec cam, peaked my interest now as maybe one of my first mods to the new hunter!
Kent Cams with FuelX lite system. Too much fun. Would make your Hunter insanely fun!
We are on the same wave length
The last I looked Tec Bike Parts is "working" on a cam for the 350. Hitchcock sells one now but out of stock.. Is it a Kent cam?
The 350 and 411 seem to be quite receptive to cam mods. The FuelX Lite is awesome. I have it on my 390 Duke and it has improved smoothness and low rpm rideability a fair bit. It is kind of like the Booster Plug except that it manipulates the lambda signal directly.
Also, it's pronounced _Pun-jab_ not Poon-jab. Pun is pronounced like the English word. It's named after the state where this type of silencer has been quite popular. I say "has been" because the cops have been confiscating and destroying all loud aftermarket exhausts lately.
Thank you for the info on the Pun-jab. I always wonder how bad I'm doing with that kind of stuff. Will try to adjust. On the vintage bike videos there's an ongoing debate on how to pronounce Amal.. In that one there seems to be a clear divide between older vs younger riders. Great to hear from you. Thanks!
@@forgottenmotorcycles Haha! I am aware of the debate on the pronunciation of Amal! But, Punjab is the name of an Indian state. I actually speak Punjabi since I am from a city on its border. Being not an English word, you would understandably not know its pronunciation.
It sounds great. Great bike.
It's really a great sound. Unfortunately the GoPro mutes it a bit. Wahoo!
@@forgottenmotorcycleswow i think Indians really know how to make good old bike's with really affordable price ❤ really love this ageless classic 350 beauty👍
A hunter 350 with all of this would be awesome
Totally agree...I've been working on Baxter Cycle to build us one. Wahoo!
Hi. That was fun! Would you happen to know how these modifications might have affected fuel economy? I reside in Commiefornia and our fuel is soooo "special" that right now it is costing us well over $5.00 a gallon for regular and more for premium and diesel.
Thank you and yes, the joy of your riding this bike was infectious enough that I subscribed.
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I'm not sure what kind of change it would have. Motorcycle gets 60 to 70 miles a gallon and stock form so even if it lost 10 miles a gallon you'd still be doing good. Loads of fun to ride
Thank you! I think I would just leave it stock for a few years and then if needed, upgrade it. Thank you again! I do appreciate your insight and help. 🙂@@forgottenmotorcycles
@@SS-ck3ewDid you???
Been seriously thinking of getting one of these to ride some Indiana back roads. Never had a bike before but everyone seems to like the Classic 350
Classic is a fun machine. I"ve had one for about a year, over 6000 miles, it does back roads well. Wahoo!
I did the same with my Hunter 350 (DNA air filter , Kent stage two camshaft , removed the cat converter, and put a Enfield precision open exhaust muffler on what by the way does make only a little more noise than a original muffler) the only thing i did not do yet is the fuel x but i will soon . the bike is much stronger up hill and much quicker up to speed ,. maybe you will not believe this but i can almost keep up from zero to 100km or 60miles with my mates KLR 650 (what is also a single ) but yeah above that speed the KLR is better ..... also i have a int. 650 and i love them both .
These 350's are just plain fun. Add all the goodies and they become super fun. Love it!
You can put a list of all parts used to modify a motocicle ? im very interest to replicate this !
I didn't do the work so am not sure what was done in total. Maybe the owner could answer this question better? Next time I visit with him I'll ask if we can do a more detailed video with the info you'd need. Wahoo!
Nice job!
Thank you! Cheers!
That sound… Wow!
Love that sound. The GoPro really muted it too. Wahoo!
@@forgottenmotorcycles I just looked at the dyno chart on that English site. It’s impressive.
@@critterIMHO what were the torque numbers? Was told it added 5 horsepower.
@@forgottenmotorcycles unfortunately, it only shows the horsepower at the wheel. Max hp went from 15.57 to 20.46 at nearly the same RPM. That’s a huge increase.
@@critterIMHO that's pretty substantial for a bike that size.
All in, that probably would cost $1000.00 including shop time. Those 350s really need a bit more power, though.
I'm thinking you're about right on the cost. Wahoo!
You've lost torque (pull) at the bottom end low to mid range but gained at the top end with the valve overlap on the new cam. You don't get something for nothing-if you gain in one area you loose it in another.
You may be right but I didn't seem to notice it. I'll pay more attention next time I ride her. Very fun!
Great video. Do you think this impacted the MPG at all?
That's a good question. I've had a few owners tell me their fuel economy increased but that is hard to believe. Most say that they ride the bike harder and the mph is down while the Fun Per Mile is way up. Wahoo!
I recently bought a Bullet 350 and love it but wished it had just a bit more pep like the Hunter. Would you say that these mods give it more Hunter like performance (aside form the top speed obviously)?
I would love to see what a high compression piston and a custom ecu would do to these engines, good or bad.
That sounds like a bunch of fun. Wahoo!
@@forgottenmotorcycles I reckon it would be.
Do 2000 miles before upgrades, run the engine in well
I thought it was 3000 miles?
2000km according to my manuel about 1200 miles, every thing gets more smooth around 2000 miles, then do the mods.
Has anyone unpluged the ABS sensor on one on these? Be worth doing long enough to strap a gps to it an see how fast it is. Theoretically, you could take the ABS ring off an have a new one made with fewer holes. Speedometer will be wrong but... 10% fewer holes would mean 10% faster before shutting off. ABS should still work unless you went extreme with it. Half as many holes might not work.
Somebody should give that a try :-)
The Hunter has a smaller wheel than the Classic so is the adjustment is made using a different sensor ring or an adjustment in the Hunter ECU?
Or is there something I've missed?
@@Walt_G From pictures, it looks like the front ring is the same on both. Which makes sense from a parts department perspective. So it looks like the ECU. But its hard to count holes on a ring in a photo. A difference of one or two holes is all it takes to change it for a different tire an wheel size.
@@RebelCowboysRVs yes, I think you are correct, the ring looks the same so it must be the ECU.
@@forgottenmotorcyclesyou should do it.
Seems like all you're getting is noise if the bike still bounces off the speed limiter. 70 mph in the flatlands is pretty bland.
Loads of fun getting to that 70. Wahoo!
Enjoyed the video a lot. The improvement s in pickup, torque through the rev band range, have made me think about adding those Kent cams, FuelX fuel system and the DNA air filter on my RE Classic 350 (also Marsh Grey Signals BTW). And adding the Short Punjab (mini Punjab) slip on exhaust.
Had a question about the removal of catalytic converter (de-cat pipe). Maybe you can help me understand. How does removing the catalytic converter affect the engine life ? Does it hurt any at all?
Thanks - what a ride!!❤🎉
This is my bike. Removing the cat if anything will help engine life. That’s the exact exhaust I run
It'll be ok engine life & you could add the fuel X to richen it up so it doesn't run to lean.
Appreciate this insight a lot both of you 🙏
Keep the vlogs coming. Would love to see some videos riding the Classic 350 on some US Forest Service roads. I'm a new rider and bit cautious venturing away from paved black tops. Ride safe and enjoy!😃
Matt the bike owner...read this comment
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The one I would be interested in is how to remove the max speed limiter as I know it's capable of going faster than 75mph
Had the Hunter 350 doing over 80mph. Wahoo!
@@forgottenmotorcycles what did you do exactly?
What makes this aggressive sound? Muffler or a camshaft? I was thinking of puting a camshaft, but if it is making it to sound like this then I don't want to put it. I hope it's a muffler.
The cam does change the nature of the sound but the muffler is what allows it to be so loud. Many will do the cam and/or cat-delete pipe while keeping the original muffler in order to keep the sound down. Wahoo!
Awesome video! Would you mind sharing a link to the Kent cams? Can't seem to find it.
Hello, This link should do it: accessories.hitchcocksmotorcycles.com/Royal-Enfield-350-Classic-Accessories?year=2022&keyword=cam The Kent cams website does not offer this cam for some reason.
@@forgottenmotorcycles thank you so much! I appreciate it
Improvement in Top speed?
No, the bike has a speed limiter that is unchanged by these mods. The bike does get to that top speed much quicker than before. Wahoo!
Who is the USA distributor for Kent Cams? That is a very cool Classic 350, Do they have verified info on the performance gained with these Mods? Thanks for posting, this makes the new RE 350s look like a more attractive choice to own now!
We have not Dino the bike to test the gains. I can tell you they're riding the bike you can feel the definite improvement. Baxtercycle.com should have the cam. I can't find another website give them a call. Very easy to put in with amazing results. Wahoo!
Thanks for the quick response!
Yes please!!
She is insanely fun to run. Wahoo!
Where did you get the cam? Tec Bike Parts?
I'm think'n he got all this at Baxtercycle.com I'd give them a look/call. Wahoo!
Super please, super bike fine video.
Many thanks!
im thinking of getting the cam upgrade as well but i cannot seem to find it. Where did you get these from?
This link takes you to the page. However, it is currently out of stock. accessories.hitchcocksmotorcycles.com/48439?cont_page=Royal-Enfield-350-Classic-Accessories&keyword=cam&year=2022
insane how so many "experienced" riders still dont quick shift.
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@@forgottenmotorcycles learn to quick shift, you shift at a snails pace
Sweet bags. RE racks and bags?
Yes, RE bags and racks from Baxtercycle.com
@@forgottenmotorcycles Thanks; I should have guessed. Saving my pennies for a 2024 Classic in Marsh Gray, even if the Interceptor 650 makes more touring sense.
Congratulations! How much did cost to you ?
I think the owner claimed around $1000 for the upgrades. That Classic really runs. Wahoo!
Must be a way to remove/disable the speed limiter.
I'm hoping someone comes out with a hack...soon!
@@forgottenmotorcycles limiter is on speed NOT revs, speed limited via ABS system. Or so I heard.
Someone must have worked out how to disable the limiter. Please, let us in on your secret.
BHP in the UK is a tuner working on a ecu mod for the hunter. Still waiting....
What about the ECU mapping? Is it stock?
I don't know enough about these things. To answer that question. I can tell you the bike ran very well
Could I get a link to the cam? Thing sounds badass for a 350
Looks like they are currently sold out but I'm sure they'll get more. Try this link: accessories.hitchcocksmotorcycles.com/48439?cont_page=Royal-Enfield-350-Classic-Accessories&keyword=cam&year=2022
Tnx!
Wish we could do these mods here in india
It really brought the bike to life
What is the part number on cam???
I'm not sure. Call Baxtercycle.com and ask Jeremy. He should be able to help you. Wahoo!
So what does the fuelx system do then?
I'm not sure but think it puts more fuel into the system at critical points.
Kann man den Drehzahl begrenzer deaktivieren?
Ich habe nicht gehört, ob es einen Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzer hat. Wenn dies der Fall ist, wird jemand herausfinden, wie man es deaktiviert. Danke!
Hey Fuzzy, what brand is the cam? Thank you!
Kent Cams with a FuelX lite system.
Do you have a link to the cam website,can’t seem to find a Royal Enfield cam on Kent camshafts website. Tia
@@darrenswire7887 I think you have to go to Hitchcock to get the cam
Too loud for me. Love the performance, but could not live with the noise 🙂↔️
Am riding another one like this Friday that is equipped with everything this bike has but with a quite pipe. Should be interesting. Wahoo!
@@forgottenmotorcycles Indeed 😀👍
I have it completely standard. In my opinion, these changes are not worth the profit obtained. The bike is what it is and if you want to ride more, it's better to buy another bike.
I own a bone stock Classic 350 and love it. This fellow spent about $1000 to upgrade his Classic 350...I love that bike too. Wahoo!
It might go faster , but That exhaust noise would drive me mad on a long trip
Some like that noise...I'm happy without it. Wahoo!
It would be awsome to drive it for a while but I also don't like it for every day use. But what is actualy making it to sound so agressive? The camshaft alone or the other modifications?
Is there a wheelie in the future ?
May have already been one LOL
I guess you've kissed your warranty goodbye.
I'm thinking you're correct.
@@michaelmurdock4607 I don't have a wrench or any mechanical ability whatsoever. Also, I've paid for the warranty so I'd like to get the benefit. If I had an older bike with no existing warranty, I wouldn't mind.
How many CV more?
Not sure
This fuel X can remove speed limiter and change the rpm limiter?
I don't think the speed limiter was disabled. The bike has the same top speed just gets there a lot faster. Wahoo!
How many horsepower more?
Five, according to Hitchcock's, the people who sell the cam in the UK.
I don't have an answer to this, no dyno. Yes, Hitchcock's claims 5hp. Will say that this little bike will get up to and hold full speed fast. Loads of fun and sounds great too. Wahoo!
Did you happen to get the part number on the Kent cam ?
Dug back through some pictures and found a blurry image that looks like 90099. Best I can do with that. The cam did come from Hitchcocksmotorcycles.com and Baxtercycle.com may carry it too. Give either a call. Hope this helps. Wahoo!
Thank you sir. Great video
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top speed?
I think the 350 is speed limited to about 75mph. This bike get to that limit faster. Wahoo!
Every 350 in indian sound like this one 😂😂
Nice!
These bikes have got to be good for 80mph. Someone out there knows how to diable the speed limiter, PLEASE share🙏
I'd sure like to know how to get her to do it. Maybe reducing the size of the rear sprocket or increasing the size of the front sprocket.
@@forgottenmotorcycles That doesn't work, the speed limiter works from the ABS/Speed sensor. it IS NOT a rev limiter.
So, we pull the fuse on the ABS which disables both the ABS and the speedo. We buy one of those little gizmos you fit to a bicycle and, hay presto, you know how fast you are going. Problem is, going at 80+mph on my Classic Reborn is probably the time I'm going to be wishing I hadn't disconnected my ABS. Nah, think I'll just add a Conti GT to the stable.
@@michaelmurdock4607 How fast did it go?
@@michaelmurdock4607 Thanks man
I prefer the sound of the stock pipe.
Running stock pipes on my personal Classic too.
Hot damn, don't sound like a put put any more.
She's a little screamer!
Better to change your bike ,thats a pretty unreliable motorcycle ‼️😅
It's owner rides it often and hard. I'm thinking he loves it.
Sorry but it sounds awful! But to each his own. You just can't make a Ferrari out of a Kia.
I think he's having a bunch of fun :-)