2023 Honda Transalp XL750 - Not Expensive, Not Cheap
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- Some where in the middle of the middleweight adventure group, it is the biggest group of all, over 16 bikes & that's not counting the small brands. Just doing well in this group is a huge task. The North American "launch" is scheduled for 2024.
Thank you Motorrad Huneke: ktm.motorrad-huneke.de/
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Video Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:40 Competition
2:45 Missing Options
3:00 Options
3:53 Powertrain
5:47 Autobahn
7:01 Chassis
10:15 Ergonomics
14:06 Controls & Display
15:09 Verdict - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Just to be clear guys, there is no quick shifter on this bike. I miss spoke, I meant to say "blip" and not "QS".
Picked one up last week. And i dont regrett it what so ever. Seeing peoples complaints about this and shows that people simply has not ridden it. I tested allot of bikes before landing on this bike. Tuareg. Tenere WR and rally. Triumph tiger 900 rally pro. Tenere is the worst bike of the bunch. Over hyped uncomfortable with horrible suspension. The others i skipped because of the local service centers. Even though tuareg and the tiger is very good. But the transalp has been an absolute treat. I came from a 22 cb500x. The transalp feels almost easier to ride. The fork and shock is very good. Just had a ride on some of the worst mountain roads i have been on. Bad gravel and frost damaged roads. It worked really good. Not a mx bike. But it did it very good. And the engine is fantastic. Barrely feel any vibes. And mostly none. Seat is also very good. Ofcourse that is very individually. Just had a 400km trip and only had one break. And could continue. For me the bike has been perfect for my needs on the Norwegian roads i ride on etc.
I am in the same position..Thinking to change from the CB500X to transalp.I drove it for a bit and the engine is superb,but do you find it easy to control like the cb especially when commuting?Gave me a feeling that it is not so agile.
@@GM_Rider_ I feel it is much more agile. I do think it is because of the narrower 21" front wheel. The whole bike is just better. I rode my cb500x to service it before selling and i did not like the bike anymore. The transalp is better at everything compared. Only my cb was at 3L pr 100km. And transalp is averaged 3.8 pr 100km. Witch is not much compared to how much better the engine is. I would never downgrade a transalp to A2 like i have seen some have. I am bringing my bike across half of europe next year. I would not do that on my cb. The vibes in that bike was just terrible. The transalp is so calm. Witch makes it better on long rides.
As always excellent video👏 To think cruise control is not even an option is absurd and absolutely inexcusable, and yet a quick shifter is available…wtf Honda! If it had c.c. I’d buy one for sure!
Tubed tyres and a 21" front wheel too. What's the point on essentially a road bike? No thanks.
probably a battle between engineers and accountants :)
and they half baked it.. to please everyone
Yep. 100% agree. Bonkers logic by Honda. I guess they don't want to kill their huge big heavy Africa Twin if they make the Transalp too good as surely it would. The KTM 890 Adv is a far better bike. Worth paying the extra for to get a much better spec which aren't even options with the Transalp.
@@alexmorgan3435 what you said about Honda not wanting this new bike to take potential sales away from their Africa Twine makes a lot of sense
I run a f750GS, fully equipped. I use the cruise countrol almost never, since motorbikes are not made for the freeway, in my opinion. If it was equipped with a distance sensor, then I'd use the cruise control more often though
I was waiting for your review for Transalp..... Finally
Best review... I ride the old Transalp.. you describe the special thing, that the Motor makes the Bike.. thats makes the Honda special in both decades.. Sound and charakter... Thank You😊
Love your videos buddy ❤❤❤
Buongiorno, complimenti x il suo lavoro in moto, semplice, ma efficace, tutta la mia stima, un saluto
Great review. Thank you.
Not giving the gold-colored forks to this black version was a crime comitted by honda
Tubeless required - they missed the boat on that one…….
Thanks for the vid. Nicely detailed as always. I love my 2019 CB500X. Its such a complete bike. However, this new Transalp is my next bike. I'm not buying it to go off-road. I don't need cruise control. It's a more powerful CB500X which why I am choosing to buy it. Honda should have had a mid-size bike ages ago so its about time. My F850GS was nice but heavy. My R1200GS was nicer still but a heavy bike to wheel in / out the garage and I didn't need all the bells and whistles. I think Honda have hit the sweet spot offering a no-thrills mid-size bike. It's all the bike I need so I'm selling my R1250R and CB500X and just having the Transalp. 8,000 mile/yearly, service intervals are spot on. Being a Honda, I just know that motor will go on for ever. Ride safe all..
Good thinking. I rode a mates CB500X but found it small and buzzy. I've been a boxer guy forever but they're heavy. I rode the Transalp and immediately liked it. It's my next bike for sure.
This review of the Transalp was the nudge I needed to cause me to buy the very same color Transalp and also got the U.S. version which comes with the quick-shifter, and it's all awesomeness all the way. Great review NothingToProve!
I wonder if they will pull a Norden Expedition....and additional model next year with improved suspension.
No cruise control,non tubliss,short wheel travel?For an adventure bike.Thankfully you can add heated grips.Could have been a much better success.Thanks.
100 percent agree. They made it more b road oriented but at the price it costs tyres with tubes is unacceptable.
Hi Scott loving your videos and the spec sheet you put in with all the bikes is great for comparisons. It's really handy for me to take a look at while you're going through the bikes specs.
May I suggest to add zebra coloring to the lines to make it a bit more readable when looking at the list.
Continue on mate, really enjoying your videos so far.
No cruise control is a deal breaker for me. On a modern bike such as this, it should have CC also tubeless wheels and tyres.
Agreed!
ah piss off with your cruise control
Your opinion, I respect it but I don’t agree, no deal breaker for me
Whats the fuss with cruise control ? I have it on my car and I never use it. I wouldn't use it on my bike neither.. only useful if you do hours and hours on the highway with no traffic which alomost never happen to me.
@@FrenchyRider574 Come to TEXAS and you'll want cruise control... all subjective yes.
Lack of damping adjustment is a deal-breaker. I mean, it's called a TransALP as in ALPINE as in mountains... where the roads have buckling and bumps of all different sizes and intervals, besides the fact that everyone weighs something different and preload only begins to bring you into the range where further adjustment will make both the front and rear safe and comfortable. Maybe I'm missing something in their tech, but it seems like a cop-out to save weight and cost and target beginners who won't know any better until long after they've signed the financing contract. Too bad, it's a good looking bike for an ADV.
So the Honda had zero adjustments on the shocks? You can't make the dampening stiffer? My 2005 ZZR600 has some valving adjustments for dampening and rebound on the rear shock and I think the front has a valve rate adjustment. I don't actually understand suspension very well and I've only ever softened up the suspension on my 2 motorcycles to make them ride softer. A soft ride is the only thing I'm concerned with, after 25 years of riding. On the dirt, if your suspension is too soft, it's fine, you just ride slower. It's not important if the bike isn't sold as a dirtbike, it's sold as a roadbike for long distance comofort. The Honda sounds and looks better than all the other bikes, except for the Tiger. But the Tiger has an awful engine now, with the rough running experimental flat plane triple, which is a massive flop. The Tiger 800 and 1200 both have a terrible flat plane (double check that) but they are the best looking of all the ADV bikes, followed by the Honda 750, 1100, and Tenere. The Ibex 800 looks super good, for what it is and might have the best features of any bike. Triumph's 1200XC scramblers are extremely pretty and awesome, but not quite an ADV bike. And the best bike is the Ducati Desert X. KTM's don't count, they are an experimental prototype made from bulbous alien materials. Actually the KTM 1200 I think doesn't have those hideous fuel tanks on the side, and looks pretty decent.
Maybe its like 98% of so called adventure bikes.. ITS A ROAD MOTORCYCLE with an adventure shape
@@robvanduren761 True, you can compare it with SUV cars!
How many Bikers are able to use or set the correct settings with preload and dampers?
You're not climbing the mountains, you're riding on roads. Sounds like well chosen settings ,so mostly this should be fine.
I believe these retail around 9.5k here in the UK for what is a pretty basic bike. The foundation for a really great bike for sure however numerous things amiss. I would rather pay more to ride out the showroom with cruise, hand guards, heated grips and quick shifter as standard plus tubed tyres and better suspension I’m sure they’ll sell well but most owners will then spend a fortune on upgrades??
I’d rather bought Versys 650. Surely Honda has better motor, but Kawa is cheaper, has adjustable suspension back and forth, adjustable windscreen, better fuel range, more cushy saddle. Maybe 2.gen Transalp wouldn’t be missed oportunities.
Your thoughts are reasonable. :) Would agree. Drop by, you may like my content.
Inner tubes and single overhead cam engine, we're going back in time
Tubes are superior offroad.
Great review as always Scott. Given it is more road focused than hardcore off road, a cruise control is a must as standard in this day and age. What is the cost during production for cruise? Not much I imagine.
Hi Scott, as usual you have brought us a fine review touching on some interesting observations. To me the Transalp is a very tempting purchase for road only use, but clearly Honda have built this bike to a price to beat off the competition. Sad that some important features are missing & as you point out… this will be a deal breaker. I for one will wait for the updated version in a couple of years hoping it will have the missing kit it really deserves. PS - Hoping you’ll be able to get hold of the New Suzuki Vstrom 800E very soon for a full report. Many Thanks.
Don't hold your breath. Honda are not very dynamic.
I was about to suggest the throttle needs to be kept open when using a Quickshifter (and closed on the downshift). But you did mention it later. Great content, your views are respected. Thanks
No cruise deal breaker 😳😎🏍💨💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦🍻
Looks and seems nice. Feels like they missed with the tubed wheels and no cruise control. Maybe thise would be options later.
It's a decent bike for two track and most single track roads. It's great on the street. I had a 500X in the past and many people had 50k+ trouble free miles on them. They had only existed for 3 or 4 years at the time so it was impressive. If this bike can do similar, it's definitely something worth looking at
👍 Nice! 👍
Nice Reivew........ I agree with your views of making other Accessories Available for this machine..... Right out of the Gate I would opt for Tubless tires & most certainly a Cruise Control ....... I'm considering their A T over this bike for those 2 reasons alone...... As for Seat Hight maybe mention your inseam so we have a reference point .... I'm 5' 8" w/30 " inseam... I'm coming off a KLR 650 which had a 35" saddle....... I change it to a Seat Concepts low which was a Hight Improvement for me........ Love that Color your on Not really a fan of the RWB model. Hoping for other color options when its released in 24 to the USA......... Thanks again......
Thanks for a quality, in-depth review.
I go a lot out of it.
This TransAlp would be a great bike for commutes or jaunts around town.
For long distance cruising or off-road use it’s seriously lacking.
Loving the Honda engines and reliability, though.
I’m leaning toward a BMW F-850GS Adventure. Pricy yes, but, I don’t mind paying for what I really want.
Happy Trails
Don't see any serious lack.
its a nice looking bike
Love the bike, I'm looking to downsize from my 20' AT1100 (manual), it's just too much sickle for my needs, the hard pill to swallow is that I got a good deal on my bike new and since covid, I'd have very close to the same $$ in this 750 after all the dealer add-ons. Hell, who knows when we'd even see the bike readily available here in the US...
Nice platform,but half baked. Why can't we find the, complete package, innovative, performance, fun factor orientation of the KTM 890 Adventure, made by a Japanese manufacturer??
So you don't think the Tenere compares to the KTM? I guess the Japanese haven't made a high tech dirtbike yet, the Tenere doesn't have the power or technology does it? I think the Transalp is a much better looking road bike than any of hte KTM's, and I'd buy the Transalp before any other bike, because it's more practical. Nobody buys a $12,000 bike to drive it on hard offload trails exclusively. You do need comfort on the road, and on smooth gravel roads. The Transalp is one of the best handling and nimble road bikes, the reviews for it's road handling are 10 out 10. For dirt, the Tuareg might be the best deal because it has the best reviews for straight dirt handling.
Honda created it's own niche, and personally it's the only ADV bike that I would buy, the others are too slow, don't sound good, or are just too ugly. The Tigers series no longer sound good anymore, cost too much, and have too much vibration due to them ruining their own engines with the new flat plane crank. The Honda 1100 has no power whatsoever, people say it's the slowest ADV bike they've ever ridden, which is a shame and a waste of a valuable platform. The old Transalp's weren't sold in the USA at all, a real travesty. The Harley Pan America doesn't even exist anymore, I've not seen a video about it for months, and it's considered the most unreliable Harley ever made now, along with it's brother the Sportster S. The Tuareg is geared for dirt only, and is too ugly, although awesome and one of the best dirtbikes. The Tenere is a good bike that sounds good and is good looking with minimal gizmos and gadgets, but maybe not nearly as powerful as the Honda Transalp with 20 less horsepower? The BMW GS1250 cost a fortune and is awesome, but not realistic. The Triumph 1200XC is amazing, but also probably cost a fortune, and is more of a retro bike. KTM's are too ugly to be taken seriously, especially the 790 and 890. Those fuel tanks have to go, sorry.
@@Ritalie All valid arguments. The Transalp will be the best choice for a lot of people, but it is still half baked. I am sure the second iteration will add tubeless tyres, include cruise control, and even have better suspension travel. But, then it will steal from the Africa Twin market too much.
@@Ritalie yes, it does have a good niche, the gold wing being one, the Africa Twin being another, and now the Transalp. I think the Transalp is the better bike for the majority of adv tourers, but the lack of tubeless, and cruise control were disappointing, at least as options.
@@davidmallia628 Hmm. It's unfortunate that they think it would steal sales from the Africa twin. Could they make a more expensive Transalp with those features or sell them as ad ons?
Thank you for another great video. If cruise control was available even as a paid option, I’d already own one. Seems like a terrific bike for the money.
"Atlas Throttle Lock" is the next best thing to factory cruise
What's the bet the aftermarket already have one available. It RBW throttle, so should be simple enough to integrate.
Looks a good entertaining bike for mile munching, despite some short comings..
Good review, thank you 😊
I’m test riding one on Monday with my wife. She wants to replace her MT07 with something more suited to long distance & bad road surfaces. I’m interested to see how it compares to my CRF1100 adventure sport. Although, if I decide to downsize I’ll probably go for the Tiger 900 rally pro.
Thank you! Yea, if I were to go middleweight ADV, the Tiger is my number one choice, simply because it has everything you can want, you just simply pick the options you want, done.
take care,
Scott
@@NothingToProve thank you for the reply, I’ve definitely got to test the 900 pro, the spec sheet alone is pretty impressive.
We test rode the Transalp today.. I thought it was good, couldn’t really fault it. Much lighter & easier to manually move around than my Africa Twin but I still prefer the AT. My wife however absolutely loved it & has put a deposit down. Hopefully collect it in September.
Thanks again 👍
The narrow saddle helps your feet reach the ground. Same with the Africa Twin.
Don’t close the throttle when using the quick shifter
No QS on this bike...
Looking forward to what you think of the new VStrom 800DE. Great review!
Thank you, I just inquired (Friday) to see if that is available yet and nope, not yet 😢 Suzuki is having problems delivering the bikes. Maybe July or August was the answer I received. "maybe" 🙁
@@NothingToProve It's funny...the trend is if someone has done a review of the Honda they have yet to do the Suzuki and vice a versa. Very few channels if any have both. I hope demo comes to you soon!
Guess what, I asked again today and magically I'll get one this week! LOL! I'll see if I can get up a video on Thursday, my fingers crossed. 😁
@@NothingToProve OH! Nice! Good for you! I'll keep my fingers and thumbs crossed and pressed ;) Can't wait! There's a decent Suzuki Triumph dealer here in Erfurt but when I went by 2 weeks ago they still hadn't received the 800DE but they had the naked.
Go to Schriewer in Bissendorf, they have the 800DE on demo, that's the one I'll be riding this Wednesday morning!
Glad you took the Transalp, Scott! A beautiful and versatile machine for the money! And all of this with Japanese quality. The missing cruisecontrol is possibly a dealbreaker in the negative sense. And now for a direct comparison with the Suzuki; which one would you choose?
I just rode the VStrom 800DE today, I just finished the autobahn video a few minutes ago, that will go up tonight, and the normal review I'll start working on tomorrow morning, I hope it will be up tomorrow night. But it's tough question, they are both so well done, it really is hard to choose. They both have short-comings and their own self created issues. It really comes down to what one is willing to "put up with" or can tolerate the most. I'm glad I don't have to choose between the two!
take care,
Scott
@@NothingToProve Thanks, Scott, I'll be patient! ;-)
Only the headlight lets it down.
Thank you very much for the review. Couple of questions - does it feel small to you? Choosing between T7WR and Transalpine for touring, which one would you pick?
World Raid, easy choice 😊
@@NothingToProve thank you 👍 Watching your videos since last year, great work!
why?he said for touring.@@NothingToProve
Fun irrelevant fact: if you stop the video at 15:43 (preferably not full screen) you can see the difference in ground clearance between the two V-stroms with the help of the red CZcams video timeline... look where the line passes through wheels and bottom of the bikes.
Now that you had the chance to try both transalp and v strom 800 will be better for say..80% on road and 20% off road?
Nice motorcycle review I’m wondering what kind of jeans are you wearing? I like them?
Thank you. The jeans are Trilobite Parado. 👍👍
Thanks
Now I´m at 30 secs on your video and thinking of, if I should continue watching it after seen how you are shifting with QS :D please just hold the throttle and kick it up higher than 5-6k rpm. OK I´m going to continue :)
no QS on this bike.
I just sold my F900XR and bought one of these. And yes...that motor is the star of the show.
Agreed!
Hey. How do you compare them now after a few months?
@@RokVercic I'd buy another Transalp. I wouldn't buy another BMW.
Please add the Suzuki V-Strom 800 DE. Thanks.
For roughly the same price, I would get a Moto Guzzi V85TT. Tubeless, cruise control, shaft drive, more confortable and better looking
I was waiting for the TransAlp, but it's not coming to Canada, at least for this year, so got a V85. So far it's exceeding expectations.
I test rode V85TT, because it does look very interesting on papper. The engine torque and feel was awesome. The transmission on the other hand...total crap. Gear shiter indicator would show me I was in 2nd, while I was neutral, clunky shifting etc. Does it get better after break in?
Also, the foot pegs seemed way to far back, strange feeling, almost like sport bike. Seat was also slope forward, like sport bike, and rear suspension was super stiff (preload on lightest setting).
The engine though...what a character.
@@djsvetljo The transmissions seem to have a fair it of variability between bikes. Mine clunks when cold, but is precise. The clunking goes away once it has some heat in it. No issues with it otherwise.
The gear indicator on mine is accurate, but doesn't show anything when the clutch is in. It's quirky, but doesn't bother me because I don't pay attention to it anyway.
We're probably different sized. I don't have an issue with the seat or pegs. I'm used to a KTM Duke, and this is more comfortable. I've done 6 hour rides, and have been fine afterwards. The same ride on the Duke had me with stiff knees and sore butt.
The rear spring is pretty firm, but I think it's due to provision for two-up riding with luggage. I still have preload dialed in, and find it firm, but not unreasonable. I haven't really fiddled with it much though.
Ha ha
Italiana, no gracias
Honda put in their typical half hearted effort on this bike. No cruise, No tubeless tires, off road performance poor. What's the point? Might as well buy a Taureg 660
Seems to have all the things the transalp doesn't.
@@chrishart8548 try getting parts for the Aprilia though.
@Road Warrior have you tried ? It's actually easy. The other dealers for honda etc can order them, that's how I got parts for my aprilia. That's in the UK 🇬🇧
KTM 890 Adv.
The Tuareg is an awesome bike! But is it geared for road riding? I've heard it's basically a dirtbike, geared for dirt. It doesn't have the right gearing to ride it on the road at highway speeds. To me, any bike that is screaming down the road is a deal breaker. I am hesistant to get any of the new bikes even the BMW GS1250 is geared totally wrong and doesn't have the right gearing for highway driving.
Honda NT1100 or Kawasaki Versys 1000?
Quickshifter or Automatic transmission?
Would you have this over the Triumph sport 660? That’s my dilemma at the moment while trying to move from naked towards mid weight adventure.
I was a bit iffy about the tubed tyres but I think it is actually a matter of learning how to repair your puncture as it keeps to on the move. A tyre plug is temporary whereas a tube repair will be fine to keep you going. Depends how mechanically involved you want to be.
I have the triumph Tiger Sport 660. They are comparable. The Honda is 10hp more, but the triumph triple is so sweet. It seems to me the triumph for the money is a good buy. It has an adjustable windshield which I use a lot. I heard the Honda can be a little clunky with fueling. The triumph is silky smooth. The triumph seems less expensive by about $1500. I heard complaints about the Honda fuel gauge going from full for a long time and then quickly dropping though the rest towards empty. I look forward to seeing the Honda when it comes to the US, but I think I'll be happy to keep my triumph 😊
Cheers Larry,
Yes, “RocketMan” spoke of the quick fuel gauge on his review in Portugal.
I am very tempted by the little tiger
Hi, thanks for the bike presentation. Didn't you hear that it will come with a DCT transmission?
Nope, I didn't hear that. But that will probably be the "next big thing" in a year or two for this bike but that's just my opinion.
Ok, thanks.
Hi.
I only asked because I really like this bike. I currently have a BMW c400x scooter and I would like to replace it with a touring enduro motorcycle. I also looked at the Tiger 900 rally pro and the BMW f850gs, but for me they are big and quite expensive machines. I'm only 1.75cm. This Honda would be just right in terms of size and engine. It would only be nice if it had a DCT transmission at some point, because I find it very good. This 750cc is the golden mean for me. I don't like to drive fast, I'm more of a relaxed driving style :) I hope to have a bike like this one day.
Which is better NT1100 or Transalp 750?
That 270 deg crank sounds familiar. If I closed my eyes I'd guess it's an Africa Twin.
Nonadjustble suspension is a no-go.
Is the Tenere not build for more offroad and the Versys with less offroad capability in mind then the the Transalp ?
Correct 👍
This bike costs 12000€ in my country which is Greece. The CFMoto 800MT Explore costs the same. BUT, the amount of equipment, suspension adjustments and overall package, the CFMoto is a hell of a lot cheaper.
Yeah I want the CFMoto Ibex 800, it's my favorite bike now, along with the Honda Transalp. The advantage to the Honda is that it will probably retain 80% of it's value in 10 years, if you don't drop it. It's going to be worth nearly the same, possibly more than what you paid for it, provided that it is a well liked bike. The Royal Enfield bikes are selling for more than retail, 5 years later. The same with the Kawasaki Z900RS which is so well liked that everyone wants one, it's the most popular bike, and even 10 years from now, it's going to be worth a fortune. The same with BMW GS1250, which will probably retain a good chunk of it's value (although most BMW drop like a rock where I live, but people only drive Harley's here in the Pacific Northwest - USA). CFMoto is a no-name brand, that nobody knows, and it will take 10 years before they really develop a brand recognition. If you sell your bike 5 years from now, nobody will know what it is, and it's going to be worth only 1/4 of what you paid for it.
@@Ritalie I know how depreciation works especially on Japanese and most of the European brands. And yes, if you buy a CFMoto now, in 5 years time you would probably lose 1-1.5/4 of its original price if not a bit more.
But my point is not on how much you would sell it, but how much money you give now. And Honda has gone wild lately. Extremely high prices along with minimal equipment. And when you want to buy accessories, they are ridiculously priced. And don't start me on the bike parts IF something has a defect, even though it is a monster of reliability.
We fully understand each other. I like the new Transalp, but you have to pay alot of money in order to make it a proper Touring-Adventure bike.
This senior rider had a 90HP bike and I got rid of it because keeping it at a steady speed was tiring over a days ride. A 500F solved that problem. I would like to upgrade and I want Honda reliability. No cruise and tube tires is just dumb.
Yeah I can't understand why bikes aren't sold with an overdrive gear. If a motorcycle was geared properly, 6th gear would only be an overdrive gear, and you wouldn't be able to use 6th gear until you hit 75 mph. Many people drive 75 to 95 mph for hours at at time, and if you don't have an overdrive, it's unacceptable. IT'S TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. Cruise control needs to be required on all motorcycles, along with an overdrive gear. They shouldn't even sell a motorcycle in 2023, without these standard features. ALL CARS ON THE ROAD HAVE OVERDRIVE AND CC.
You're right, not cheap. It' a godd bike, maybe the bike bike of my dreams but, for me, 14000euros with optionals is too much expensive.
No DCT?
As an Africa Twin owner looking to trade, I’m very interested but this initial offering doesn’t cut the mustard. I’ll be wallet-ready interested when it’s available with the third generation DCT, more adjustable suspension, windscreen and ergonomics and . . . I’m sure it’s better than Suzuki’s new ‘Strom.
Keep dreaming, even NT1100 doesn't have most of it, ofc this bike doesn't have it either.
the suspension is perfect, windscreen is perfect, ergonomics - perfect, fuck DCT, the only thing that is missing is tubeless tires and CC if you are driving long motoway distances.
Great bike. But why not tubeless tires? Sell it for 200-400$ more and give people descent wheels.
Well, guess you can’t compare the Transalp to the T7 or V-Strom 800 DE: they are real offroad usable bikes. And Honda clearly didn’t put the Transalp in the Adventure category, it’s a good Travelbike for the street & some gravel to the next lake or field. Also the 790/890 Adventures & the Tuareg 660 are fully Offroad capable ones.
Beside this & the fact, that there’s some upgrades necessary, for the money the Transalp must be good value 👍🏻
Ps.: how it’s going on in Sardinia ? Curious about the following videos ☀️🇮🇹🏍️🛟🏖️🌄
Honda put the Transalp as a more road orientated adventure motorcycle as not to cut into the Africa Twin sales. The Vstrom 800DE is in the same category. Not a true off roader. If you want more off road buy a suitable one T7, Toureg 660, KTM 890 etc.
@@arnohag1 true 👍🏻 but the V-Strom seems (even with more weight) more offroad capable than the Transalp to me. Not in term of real-/ dual-sport Off-road, but for all kind of travel-off-road 🫶🏻
Price £8200 ($9999) in America! So Honda Europe or Honds UK whats the deal?, now here a discussion to be had?
Please, ride & review: 2023 Suzuki GSX 8S. GREATLY APPRECIATED.
I just rode it today 😊 But the 800 Vstrom will go up this Thursday (if I can get it edited in time) and probably next week the 8S.
take care,
Scott
I'm a bit confused by the era of motorcycling we are in. Motorcycles aren't being sold with a proper windshield, or a proper overdrive gear. The only two things that matter on a long drive are engine vibration, and wind noise. Both of these have been solved 100 years ago. In 1932, the 4 cylinder Henderson had no engine vibration and a very tall overdrive gear so it was idling at high speed. Modern bikes, 90 years newer have more engine noise are running at much higher RPM than is necessary. With all the alien technology on modern motorcycles, they can't figure out how to gear an engine correctly? Why are motorcycles not sold with a full size windshield? If every motorcycle had a full windshield, then people could switch to a smaller one if they wanted. Every review I've ever watched complains about the gearing be too low at 80mph, and the lack of wind protection. These are the two easiest things to solve, and they refuse to solve them.
Would have been good if you had shown the bikes performance on the autobahn.
I did.
Mi piacerebbe sapere se il motore scalda, grazie.
Na, not bad actually, it was a warm day when I took this out but I didn't feel any heat from the motor.
First Time with QS/Blipper?
This bike did not have a QS. So I was blipping up and down without a clutch.
@@NothingToProve ok, sorry . i didn´t recognise this (i´m Austrian, so my english is not the best).
I think Honda might have been afraid of up-speccing this bike and losing Africa-Twin sales ?
Hence no CC, Screen adjustment or suspension adjustment either ?
Statement of presence with tall bike but puny headlight and VERY vulnerable exposed sump.
Plus, where's the fuel "range" / countdown display ?
Come on Honda !
I would have preferred different camshaft design with more torque lower down, over higher rev horsepower !
Test rode one 2 weeks back.
Great bike but plain jane (ish)
I have one and like it very much except for the very poor crap non-adjustable suspension. Almost a safety issue.
A bit of a weakness for the transalp …..looks a little like my Yamaha diversion esp re colour . Probably the only bigger adventure bike l could afford TBH
This bike is not one thing or the other. I can live without cruise, I would want adjustable suspension but many would live without, but tubed tyres is it’s Achilles heel. Once they bring out a cast wheel tubeless version they will probably sell a lot more. It’s not even that cheap to justify its basic configuration.
Or the just need to move the Africa twin wheels over…
Put Africa twin wheels (tubeless) and I’m in …
Gibt es keine deutschen Untertitel mehr? 🤔
Yes, there are.
Would you ride this bike across the USA?
Yep.
I think preload adjustment on a adventure bike is just poor thinking and engineering. Or, it's cost cutting in the wrong area. Considering the amount of weight that will potentially added to it. That twin sounds so bad in it's muted state. I think Honda did not do well with this bike.
Can you explain the suspension problem? It's one area I don't really know much about. I hear the handling of the Transalp is spectacular, and the reviews say it's the single best handling bike out of all the ADV bikes, on the asphalt. On the asphalt it's nimble, and very easy to ride fast, and doesn't need any modifications. The reviews are 10 out of 10 for it's road handling. Off road it's not really designed as a dirtbike, it's basically a 90% road bike. The Transalp is the best sounding ADV on the market. The stock muffler is not muted, it actually sounds burly and beasty, it's one of the best sounding bikes I've ever heard, and that's the main reason I want one! The reviews are mostly in shock at how good it sounds with the stock Honda muffler.
i rode one honestly it feels cheap i know you cant compare it to a gs or a ktm adventure but its made to a cost id rather pay the extra just my 2 pennys
If you think this felt cheap, you should ride the CFMoto 800MT, this feels like a million buck compared to that.
I just bought a bmwr1250 gs ultimate picking it up friday fingers crossed it’s worth the extra over the standard
the on off twitchy throttle in sport was a turn off for me
😂 the whole point of sport mode is throttle response. Don’t use sport mode if you don’t like it 🤦♂️
11,5Κ € in Greece for a basic bike very poorly equipped. Needs another 5k-6k € to make it a true travel capable bike (not including suspension upgrades to make it off road worthy as well). It feels like Honda is counting on fame and less on the bike itself to make a sale. Since I do not worship any brand although I do have favorites.. my dear Honda, that is absolutely a big NO for me unfortunately.
I'm getting a general feeling of disappointment around this bike both in the comments here and elsewhere as well. In the design department imo it looks way too similar to a CB500X. But that continues in terms of specs I feel. I can of course accept it in the CB as it's supposed to be a beginner A2-compliant commuter bike first. But on this category? No adjustable suspension, lack of a cruise control, unadjustable windscreen. Bit of a let-down
I have buye the v strom 800, for me, the better bike.
idk why they went with a 21 inch front wheel, 19 + tubeless would have been a better choice as this is more street oreinted. overall this thing is really unintersting.
I agree, 19 inch and tubeless would interest me more.
are you sure you cant move the screen up like on the CB500X 2019?? i dont care there are soon aftermarket parts for this one too