Imagine the terror of being a poor soldier with basic gear and seeing one of these things for the first time, coming at you. I bet some was so confused and scared they might not even have realised it was a human inside.
There is a reason why native americans thought that gods came from the sea. 47:06 something like that looking at you from the top of a ship. When you dont even know what metal is. Maybe no this exact one but something like this goo.gl/images/ZVDYBF *you get the idea*
Except that everyone in Western Europe in those times would have known what a knight was and how they looked like, the poor soldiers would most probably have had knight officers.
Paweł Andonis Gawralidis Dobrzański herbu Leliwa. spaniards certainly didnt wore maximilian armor when they arrived in america in 1492 and most were light troops wearing only helmet and cuirass,full plate was at best only deployed in the conquest of mexico and peru much later in 1521 onwards
From 1450 onward, arquebus and musket goes boom and big scaly boi becomes big holey boi. And the Turks held bets amongst themselves on how many of them could send arrows through a knight's visor and they did it with fearsome effect. On the battlefield, these suits of armor were not very impressive. They were more for fashion and vanity, showing other nobles that they can afford all that bling and shine.
Great documentary. Toby is an excellent historian! I think my favourite period of armour would have to be between 1475 - 1525. Specifically in the 1500’s-1510.. I think the fluted style of armour pioneered by Maximilian and the Germans is the coolest, right after the smooth plate of the late medieval period but before the etchings and gilded armour mostly seen in the rest of the 16th century!
Fascinated by the fact that at least two of these men including the main presenter of the documentary are obviously American. We still hold true to our European ancestry
Tobias, late medieval/ Renaissance armors and a great soundtrack - "Vampire the Masquerade" OST intro! - take my money! Edit : Fascinating, thank you SO much for sharing.
This is s truly majestic documentary. Tobias is a world renowned expert in his field & we're privileged to be able to learn what he knows... But, please god! Stop sounding the "t" at the end of "Agincourt"! 😱 17:44 But the intro of "Teardrop" by Massive Attack saves the day. That intro stops me in my tracks awaiting Elizabeth Fraser's vocals to melt my heart... "Love, love is a verb, Love is a doing word," 18:20 Such a cool shot of Greenwich!
I ADORE this documentary! I wonder it there could be yet another reason for the austerity of Sir Henry Lee's 3rd armor- He was representing the Protestant side of a literal battle between Catholic and Protestant. Perhaps he saw it as his responsibility to draw as much of a contrast as possible between himself, and what he may have perceived as gawdy, ostentatious "papism". Just a theory. I'm reminded of how many of the great cathedrals in lands where the Protestant Reformation took hold were stripped of nearly all of their iconography, and even the interior walls were stripped of their beautifully painted artwork.
Protestants generally, do not like - Regal,Bold and Gold - Baroque type Art - Beautiful transcendental artwork - Excellence - Grandness of it all Even though God demands gold. But Protestants live to protest. Like some other guy who wanted to do that. Hmmmmm. He was cast out of heaven. They prefer a plain and uh......boring look. Very plain. They essentially don't like a Grand Narrative. Where Catholics like the artwork, beauty, excellence, high standards, transcendental beauty etc. Because to them the Art truly does reflect the Soul . In a big way. When you see the Notre Dame Cathedral then you know it was made by a religious people. Because the architecture says so. Now go look at Brutalism and Bauhaus architecture. Nothing but depression, despair and nihilism. It's all coming through the art, architecture and armor. #ArtReflectsTheSoul
As you say, "Hosted by Tobias Capwell, really cool dude" You forgot to mention that he is also Doctor Tobias Capwell Ph D (Leeds), Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries, Curator of armour at The Wallace Collection in London, one of the world's foremost authorities on Medieval armour, and one of the world's top Jousters and Longsword fighters
"This is what I wanted to see,along with Castles in England . . .as well as Mudlarking Thames hidden findings in the mud of London's river'shore":1-8-2021;
...at 04:18 the guy says: "...this is RICHARD de Vere - 11th Earl of Oxford", but the subtitle writes: "EDWARD de Vere - 11TH EARL OF OXFORD!". So which ones tomb is it??...
"although the commentator sounds like a child" Dr. Tobias Capwell is an acclaimed historian and scholar of medieval weapons and armor, has forged his own armor, is a champion jouster and HEMA athlete, and is the curator of the Wallace Collection in London, a celebrated museum of medieval arms and armor. He's considered one of the top people in the world in this area. He "sounds like a child" because he isn't a trained voice actor, and because he has an American rather than English accent as is usual for these kinds of programs. It's a privilege to hear directly from someone with such all-encompassing credentials. As for your vampire roleplaying game reference, I have no idea what you're talking about. But I would point out that modern interest and scholarship in reviving historical european martial arts, and the vastly improved scholarship in this long-neglected field, owes a lot to pop culture, including games like dungeons and dragons.
Probably I was to harsh, it is not my point to offend anyone directly. Even when I don't even know the person. The the thing with the voice was not mend to be an insult so for this accept my apology. I have some trubbles with fantasy based stuff like larp although I love many fantasy novels. I am thankful that there are people like him who spread good and real informations no misinformation the Internet is so full of. So again, I am sorry that it was a little bit too aggressive
I wonder why armor from before the 15th century is scarce? I find it hard to believe that someone would just throw it out. Was it repurposed? I know that Cromwell and his cronies melted down a lot of metal after the Civil War. But that wouldn't explain why the armor from say 1450-1650 is actually still around.
Usually reworked. I would guess most 14th century armour found use inthe 15th century, reworked for common soldiers to a point you wouldn't quite recognise it. Covered in fabric, turned into brigandines, or the like. This trend continued. Also there's a big leap in steel quality at the start of the 15th century- quality steel was rare and expensive before then (most pieces would be iron with irregular carbon content), afterwards even low end stuff was reasonably consistent steel.
Idk what it is but I hate plate armor. I understand it's in an completely different category compared to maille. There isnt much short of fire arms that will penetrate plate, but maille just looks better. Especially during the crusades when knights wore a surcoat on top. I guess I'm just more interested in the mid 11th century to the early 14th century.
I personally agree, maille is prettier (when done right) to me. When I think of a Knight, I always think late 12th or early 13th century, all maille, with a surcoat.
About Henry VIII > "at the age of three (...) he knows that he has to be the emblem of virility" wtf is that lady talking about? The kid just wanted to ride his pony. I do not doubt it could have been the case a couple years later, after formal education as a prince (starting around the age of seven or so) but come on, at the age of three? Go back reading romanced novels...
God showed me a medieval White Knight a inch of golden hair on his face blue eyes and six persons on his left and right side at night at ten years of age and as a result I searched for God and found God and saw and had many miracles.finding God was it for me in life.thats why I watch these clips.
What a stupid question. Africa is a giant continent and technology levels varied greatly. Just as technology levels in Europe were still not that uniform in the 16th century. Some Scottish, Irish and South Italian regions still mostly used mail armor which would have been similar to what many cultures in some parts of Africa would have used. 2-3 thousand years earlier and you had Europeans running around in fur coats and living in mud huts while people in the north of Africa and the near east already had big cities with temples and giant palaces and traded with each other over long distances. So what's your point.
Another way to see all this fancy pretty armor is as the useless extravagance of royalty; the idleness of the crown and their waste of wealth. Great art, maybe....interesting history, certainly.....good stuff for romanticizing the past and promoting tourism in Britain, absolutely....but moments like at 56:12 make me stop and say 'oh good lord, this is going too far'.
I've never felt my thoughts and feelings so well represented in a video.
Seen Tobias on Matt Easton's Scholagladiatoria channel. Very very bright man who knows his stuff intimately.
Every time I see something there is that little voice in the back of my head that says, "I want one too..."
17.40 - Dr Tobias Capwell's walk interrupted as he gets asked for money by a crackhead. Classic.
😂😂👌
17:40 there you go
Fantastic documentary! A true blast to watch!
Amazing documentary, been fortunate enough to see some of these armours in person and they are even more breathtaking in front of you.
I remember him from Matt Easton's Chanel!
This was excellent, thank you for posting it! I love Capwell's passion, I hope they let him present more programs.
Excellent. Massive Attack backing a history documentary = proper meta-deployment of British cultural capital. Really enjoyed this.
You can see that Henry VIII was an inpiration for George R. R. Martin in creating Robert Baratheon's character
Queen Elizabeth's champion Henry Lee makes me think of Ser Barristan Selmy.
Nah. Look up Edward IV. Henry VIII stood as inspiration for the 'historical' ASOIAF character Aegon IV though.
Robert Baratheon's wife is alive.
Imagine the terror of being a poor soldier with basic gear and seeing one of these things for the first time, coming at you. I bet some was so confused and scared they might not even have realised it was a human inside.
There is a reason why native americans thought that gods came from the sea.
47:06 something like that looking at you from the top of a ship. When you dont even know what metal is. Maybe no this exact one but something like this goo.gl/images/ZVDYBF *you get the idea*
Except that everyone in Western Europe in those times would have known what a knight was and how they looked like, the poor soldiers would most probably have had knight officers.
Paweł Andonis Gawralidis Dobrzański herbu Leliwa. spaniards certainly didnt wore maximilian armor when they arrived in america in 1492 and most were light troops wearing only helmet and cuirass,full plate was at best only deployed in the conquest of mexico and peru much later in 1521 onwards
Ask the Swiss. They took that terror and returned it to the knightly caste threefold...
From 1450 onward, arquebus and musket goes boom and big scaly boi becomes big holey boi. And the Turks held bets amongst themselves on how many of them could send arrows through a knight's visor and they did it with fearsome effect. On the battlefield, these suits of armor were not very impressive. They were more for fashion and vanity, showing other nobles that they can afford all that bling and shine.
Great documentary. Toby is an excellent historian! I think my favourite period of armour would have to be between 1475 - 1525. Specifically in the 1500’s-1510.. I think the fluted style of armour pioneered by Maximilian and the Germans is the coolest, right after the smooth plate of the late medieval period but before the etchings and gilded armour mostly seen in the rest of the 16th century!
Fascinated by the fact that at least two of these men including the main presenter of the documentary are obviously American. We still hold true to our European ancestry
Tobias, late medieval/ Renaissance armors and a great soundtrack - "Vampire the Masquerade" OST intro! - take my money!
Edit : Fascinating, thank you SO much for sharing.
Anyone thats played skyrim will remember the mask of claricus vile. Definitely modelled on that unique helmet.
I was amused at how many Nobles went deeply into debt to try to impress Elizabeth with their fancy armors. :)
I'm pretty sure I've died to one of the last ones in dark souls.
Amazing documentary.
This is s truly majestic documentary. Tobias is a world renowned expert in his field & we're privileged to be able to learn what he knows...
But, please god! Stop sounding the "t" at the end of "Agincourt"! 😱
17:44 But the intro of "Teardrop" by Massive Attack saves the day. That intro stops me in my tracks awaiting Elizabeth Fraser's vocals to melt my heart...
"Love, love is a verb,
Love is a doing word,"
18:20 Such a cool shot of Greenwich!
Awesome program. I'd love to see a similar show on earlier armors, like the earliest plate and partial plate armors of the 14th century.
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toby capwell is so good
I ADORE this documentary! I wonder it there could be yet another reason for the austerity of Sir Henry Lee's 3rd armor- He was representing the Protestant side of a literal battle between Catholic and Protestant. Perhaps he saw it as his responsibility to draw as much of a contrast as possible between himself, and what he may have perceived as gawdy, ostentatious "papism". Just a theory. I'm reminded of how many of the great cathedrals in lands where the Protestant Reformation took hold were stripped of nearly all of their iconography, and even the interior walls were stripped of their beautifully painted artwork.
Protestants generally, do not like
- Regal,Bold and Gold
- Baroque type Art
- Beautiful transcendental artwork
- Excellence
- Grandness of it all
Even though God demands gold. But Protestants live to protest. Like some other guy who wanted to do that. Hmmmmm. He was cast out of heaven.
They prefer a plain and uh......boring look.
Very plain. They essentially don't like a Grand Narrative.
Where Catholics like the artwork, beauty, excellence, high standards, transcendental beauty etc. Because to them the Art truly does reflect the Soul . In a big way.
When you see the Notre Dame Cathedral then you know it was made by a religious people. Because the architecture says so.
Now go look at Brutalism and Bauhaus architecture. Nothing but depression, despair and nihilism.
It's all coming through the art, architecture and armor.
#ArtReflectsTheSoul
Respect the steel it literally made you.
I ve seen Tobias in a lot of videos and i love the fact that he is somewhat of a sociolog.
As you say, "Hosted by Tobias Capwell, really cool dude" You forgot to mention that he is also Doctor Tobias Capwell Ph D (Leeds), Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries, Curator of armour at The Wallace Collection in London, one of the world's foremost authorities on Medieval armour, and one of the world's top Jousters and Longsword fighters
So Henry VIII was the original iron man. Who new? 🤣🤣
Very good video.
fantastic documentary
DeVere made a quick comeup since his dad or grandfather was defeated at Radcote Bridge in ~1390ish
"How would you men,women,boys,girls like if on one side of your ancesters,there was a warior man, wearing a metalic suit of armor?".1-10-2021'
Why, oh why does loud background music have to drown out and dominate the narrative?
Grateful for the upload, but why is it in 360p resolution??
"I wonder how the man',was able to see through such narrow slits(guarded face armor. . .), and not become claustrophobic"?1-13-2021'.
"This is what I wanted to see,along with Castles in England
. . .as well as Mudlarking Thames hidden findings in the mud of London's river'shore":1-8-2021;
32:24 that angle shot lmao
When was this documentary first aired?
Fascinating stuff!
...at 04:18 the guy says: "...this is RICHARD de Vere - 11th Earl of Oxford", but the subtitle writes: "EDWARD de Vere - 11TH EARL OF OXFORD!". So which ones tomb is it??...
All that decoration is too busy. Less really is more. The late Henry 8th one to me has the balance just right.
anyone know the name of the classical piece starting at 1:25?
Cold
Put a jumper on then!
That helmet looks like mine at 1:57
Anyone knows the background song at 37:55 ?
Trying to find the version of Sanctus, Sanctus... playing at 9:10
czcams.com/video/8AdsNOr_j_A/video.html enjoy my friend
matt easton, a name to be recognised, an far and unknown friend, but passion leads me here... :D nice Documentary. Thanks
"although the commentator sounds like a child"
Dr. Tobias Capwell is an acclaimed historian and scholar of medieval weapons and armor, has forged his own armor, is a champion jouster and HEMA athlete, and is the curator of the Wallace Collection in London, a celebrated museum of medieval arms and armor. He's considered one of the top people in the world in this area. He "sounds like a child" because he isn't a trained voice actor, and because he has an American rather than English accent as is usual for these kinds of programs. It's a privilege to hear directly from someone with such all-encompassing credentials.
As for your vampire roleplaying game reference, I have no idea what you're talking about. But I would point out that modern interest and scholarship in reviving historical european martial arts, and the vastly improved scholarship in this long-neglected field, owes a lot to pop culture, including games like dungeons and dragons.
Probably I was to harsh, it is not my point to offend anyone directly. Even when I don't even know the person. The the thing with the voice was not mend to be an insult so for this accept my apology.
I have some trubbles with fantasy based stuff like larp although I love many fantasy novels.
I am thankful that there are people like him who spread good and real informations no misinformation the Internet is so full of. So again, I am sorry that it was a little bit too aggressive
@@Trollvolk this isnt fantasy
9:11 - 10:07 Epicness
I wonder why armor from before the 15th century is scarce? I find it hard to believe that someone would just throw it out. Was it repurposed? I know that Cromwell and his cronies melted down a lot of metal after the Civil War. But that wouldn't explain why the armor from say 1450-1650 is actually still around.
Usually reworked. I would guess most 14th century armour found use inthe 15th century, reworked for common soldiers to a point you wouldn't quite recognise it. Covered in fabric, turned into brigandines, or the like. This trend continued.
Also there's a big leap in steel quality at the start of the 15th century- quality steel was rare and expensive before then (most pieces would be iron with irregular carbon content), afterwards even low end stuff was reasonably consistent steel.
Idk what it is but I hate plate armor. I understand it's in an completely different category compared to maille. There isnt much short of fire arms that will penetrate plate, but maille just looks better. Especially during the crusades when knights wore a surcoat on top.
I guess I'm just more interested in the mid 11th century to the early 14th century.
I personally agree, maille is prettier (when done right) to me. When I think of a Knight, I always think late 12th or early 13th century, all maille, with a surcoat.
Is this Tim RobbinS??
About Henry VIII > "at the age of three (...) he knows that he has to be the emblem of virility" wtf is that lady talking about? The kid just wanted to ride his pony. I do not doubt it could have been the case a couple years later, after formal education as a prince (starting around the age of seven or so) but come on, at the age of three? Go back reading romanced novels...
God showed me a medieval White Knight a inch of golden hair on his face blue eyes and six persons on his left and right side at night at ten years of age and as a result I searched for God and found God and saw and had many miracles.finding God was it for me in life.thats why I watch these clips.
Armadio means "wardrobe" not little armored guy
T C Armadillo
Etymology
From Spanish armado (“armored”) + -illo (“diminutive”), i.e. "little armored one".
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 thanks sorry. That's what I meant to type
@@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei thanks for the translation. Im happy to admit I was wrong 😀
What were african blacksmiths making back then?
What a stupid question. Africa is a giant continent and technology levels varied greatly. Just as technology levels in Europe were still not that uniform in the 16th century. Some Scottish, Irish and South Italian regions still mostly used mail armor which would have been similar to what many cultures in some parts of Africa would have used. 2-3 thousand years earlier and you had Europeans running around in fur coats and living in mud huts while people in the north of Africa and the near east already had big cities with temples and giant palaces and traded with each other over long distances. So what's your point.
8:29 Katherine of Aragon never gave Henry a son. Get your facts right
She did bear him a son, Edward but he died weeks later.
Another way to see all this fancy pretty armor is as the useless extravagance of royalty; the idleness of the crown and their waste of wealth. Great art, maybe....interesting history, certainly.....good stuff for romanticizing the past and promoting tourism in Britain, absolutely....but moments like at 56:12 make me stop and say 'oh good lord, this is going too far'.