Overcoming Russian Propaganda and Engaging with Ukraine
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- čas přidán 28. 05. 2024
- After the full-scale invasion began, Jonathan Fink launched a CZcams channel to provide in-depth, hour-long interviews with some of the most well-known experts on Ukraine, Russia, and the war so that listeners would have a deeper appreciation for the struggle that Ukraine is facing.
Despite alleged waning interest in Ukraine, the channel that bills itself as being "about propaganda, digital disinformation, politics, corruption, hybrid warfare, weaponized conspiracy theories, social echo chambers and digital dystopias," has grown from 8,000 followers by Christmas 2022 to over 80,000 today.
Fink's thoughtful, serious discussions with guests, have made strong impressions on audiences that tune in to learn not just "the facts on the ground in Ukraine," but to have subject matter experts explain aspects of the war that are often overlooked by the public.
During this interview, Fink explains what drives him, his programming, and what he sees as the largest obstacles facing Ukraine today.
Jonathan Fink is host of Silicon Curtain, a CZcams channel and podcast. He creates content daily, in support of Ukraine, and has become one of the most prominent voices in the CZcams community condemning Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine since February 2022. The channel now features one of the largest collections of Ukrainian experts in English online, a conscious effort to elevate Ukrainian voices, because they understand better than anyone the nature of Russia’s mindset and strategy and how to counter aggressive propaganda and other hybrid and physical threats.
Platforms:
CZcams: / @siliconcurtain
Spotify Podcasts: open.spotify.com/show/4thRZj6...
Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Twitter: / curtainsilicon
Thanks to all the people who do their part to counter Russian disinformation.
You are thanking them? You do realize these folks are entirely why many of us started listening to the russians in the first place right? They dont know their backside from their elbows.
Well said, Jonathon. You are a fantastic asset for Ukraine. Your clear, clever head in these opaque regions of propaganda is needed more than ever.
Slava Ukraini!
Silicon curtain brings facts . Very good channel.
Silicon Curtain has become the most versatile source , a kind of o Likbez on the problems and challenges of the russian war against Ukraine. Well done, Jonathan!!!💙💛👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️
And still no body watches it because people know it's lies 😅😅😅😅
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@@Perri_Reddertodd1770 is a well known vatnik troll. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
Silicon Curtain is a hidden gem only a few have found.
Some people find it before they find it. It's a very aptly named channel, considering.
No one found it because it's rubbish 😅😅😅😅
@@todd1770 They promote civilian awareness to the russian propaganda machine. That is not trash by any extent. The effort is appreciated. Those who start wars are only building ruin.
@@todd1770begon vatnik troll. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
🇦🇺💙💛✌ 🇺🇦 Slava Ukraini!
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Thanks Kyiv Post!
I love Jonathon's show! He's very honest and thorough.
Jonathan Fink is great and a wonderful source of people involved in the war 👍🏼
I should probably also mention the 'Other Jonathan' i.e. Jonathan Pearce of ATP Geopolitics who does really insightful(and lengthy!) in-depth daily updates on Ukraine, he's been interviewed on Silicon Curtain and vice versa. They're well worth a sub both of them 😁
Thanks guys From Montana.
Jonathan does tremendous interviews with great guests 💪💪 truly an awesome channel - very insightful
SC is fantastic. Great interview!
Jonnthan's channel is a great contribution. A reference.
Great interview, sober assessment
Russian style propaganda falls into roughly three categories:
1. Building support for Russia
2a. Eroding legitimacy of Russian targets (eg Ukraine) to isolate them and justify aggression
2b. Eroding the capacity of allied nations to provide reliable, relevant, consistent and timely support to defend against Russian aggression.
At this point, we can already see that "support for Russia" alone is not a good indicator of the effectiveness or pervasiveness of Russian disinformation campaigns, as it only makes up a portion of those campaigns. However, these three categories are not evenly applied across the geopolitical spectrum, which is part of Russia "knowing its audience." Russia doesn't try very hard to create sympathy for it in the West, but like China promotes narratives of sympathy, partnership, etc amongst the Global South exploiting that historical (and earned) rift between the Global South and the West. Eg hence its narrative of "liberating" (sic) Ukraine from (Western) Nazis (sic).
Conversely, in the West Russia still does try to erode Ukraine's legitimacy as a recipient of support from allies, and it directly attempts to undermine the effectiveness of allied support by exploiting emotionally charged political rifts in society and promoting acrimony and conflict. Because of this, people who fall prey to Russian disinformation in the West may very well think poorly of Russia itself even as they act in ways that help accomplish Russian geopolitical goals.
it is taken as granted by russia that western support for russia will always be limited and non-mainstream, it works better to inculcate disruptions within strong western nations and between them, making it easier for russia in the short term.
I'm following Jonathan's channel for a while so far. He invites really fantastic and interesting people for his interviews. I invite everybody to subscribe to it!!
The biggest russian lie is that they have a chance of winning 😂
Go, Johanthan! Molodyets!
Great interview, Jonathan really knows his stuff and puts forward a balanced view in regard to the efforts of different Ukrainian allies (unlike some English language commentators / experts).
@Kyiv Post would love to see you interview ATPgeopolitics ! The best in depth UK Ukraine news !
I especially love when Jonathon has Constantine from Inside Russia! He’s a Russian Economist so he can interpret the Russian economy and left Russia for Uzbekistan because he was Anti-War and Anti-Putin!
Ah I hadn't known the reason behind the name "silicon curtain".
This will fill with russian trolls😂
That's a good thing! Give them a fake potato to go with their fake news.
Yea well some of us keep hoping that one day a ukrainian supporter will have something intelligent to say and somehow convince us that the ukrainian cause isnt already lost and not a complete joke and worthy of our tax dollars but i guess that day wont be today. Ura! From denver.
The versatility and flexibility of silicon in so many modern products is how I think of the channel’s name and the fact that it can really “take the heat” in my kitchen. There’s many ways to make connections with the channels main purpose! 😁
yes, especially the fact that vs iron curtain, the new russian curtain was created by them over the past decade and half thru online activities including hacking, and infowarfare via the social media formats. Thus, silicon, ie the basis for the chips that make that possible. Ru's only truly potent tools have orginated thru online formats & they have hundreds of K's of ppl involved in it, ie cyberwarfare.
As a German, I am ashamed of the federal government's behavior regarding the Taurus debate. In particular, the influence of many high-ranking SPD members such as Ralf Stegner, Rolf Mützenich and Manuela Schwesig, who either still adhere to Brand's tradition of Eastern politics and an outdated image of Russia, or simply pursue economic interests with Russia. Just as the Russians made a misjudgment of winning the war in three days, the West fatally underestimated Russia's influence on media and politics.
What you think everyone is a f*cKing idiot like wow we never heard of Blackrock, Vanguard, Chase Manhatton, JP morgan, Monsanto. "Ukraine for sale young beautiful Ukraine for sale"
Having lived and worked in Germany before Brexit spoilt things, I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone there could be anti-western. Does Mutzernich think it's cool to be so?
Thank you for aiding in Ukraine’s victory which is Europe’s security
See, I studied Russia from Peter the Great to present day as my retirement project. I was born the year NATO was born the year NATO was born n lived in the US all of the Cold War and lived near a missile base during the Cuban Missile Crisis. So Russia was always my enemy so after the Cold War, I never embraced Ru😢like many did so I delved into their history to try and understand my enemy. So I never believed Russia had changed. As a history lover I learned early on that you need to understand your enemy maybe more than they understand themselves!😊
You studied russia and cant tell the difference between now and the soviet union? What did you study the western propaganda handbook? This nonsense is exactly what led to my own study of russia and my findings were pretty much polar opposite of your own analysis. They arent saints and still have a lot of problems but nothing even close to what you folks are selling. Not even in the same ballpark even...
We are definitely interested in what’s going on in Ukraine!
🌼 Stay strong, democracy, stay strong, Ukraine! 🌼
I don't think it's the public's interest that is waning. I think it's the MEDIA'S interest that is waning, and that is leaving the impression that public boredom and disinterest with the war in Ukraine has set in. The media is the main culprit.
Americans like me who support Ukraine started looking for more news. He gives a more worldwide view.
Great channel very informative and the topics are always relevant to current events
Great Video Kyiv Post, it's good to hear from someone who is clear eyed and independant, thanks for sharing
Perun, from australia does one hour powerpoint presentations every week, and has over half a million viewers, and is adding about 5-6 thousand people every month. Well worth the time to watch.
Silicon CUrtain is just the finest, for solid information, looking at issues in all directions, fantastic interviews and questions form Jonathan. I find it brillian and invaluable for me as a learning tool. A bit late, but you have to remember it is never too late,even at 80.
It's never too late to acquire valuable knowledge. Citizens of democracies have a certain duty to do this, in order to keep our democracies healthy.
If their propaganda is making you cynical then its working for me I have become cynical. But this could easyly have been countered by proper aid is it not?
maybe yes. Btw, big difference between cynicism and anger.
Great move, Silicon Curtain should be on prime time TVs all over the place, so this publicity is very helpful and I hope it will boost Jonathan's audiences significantly. This might lead to more trolls for the channel, of course, but hey, guess who's going to get a bigger headache there... Jonathan is a heavyweight champion in propaganda bashing 😁 Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦✌️
Silicon Curtain is certainly one of the best YT channels for deep dives with fascinating guests on Ukraine. Jonathan plays an important part in keeping people engaged and learning truth while dispelling Russian propaganda. Ukraine must win this war for all of us in the free world - and I think Europe is waking up, hopefully !
How is Ukrainian propaganda different from the Russian propaganda?
It is very easy.
Just expect that everything they say is a lie.
Every approach is to hurt you.
And every initiative is solely to their benefit.
Germany is mostly cynical .In fact they just have a different perspective about how this war should end ,and this perspective is not to far from what Russia has. We just have to look at the relation between these two countries in the last 35 years. USA has to be aware why countries that are in Nato and EU have a very close friendly visible relations with Russia in today circumstance and invisible support of Germany about it to keep the door open to Russia.
No agreements with russia will be honored They have proven time and time again that their word is meaningless
I am hoping that you can possibly ask your guests for their opinion on the following subjects-
1) Is it possible that "Russia" and "Putin" are not synonymous and interchangeable?
2) Is it very, very probable that Lavrov and many other Russians in high positions are perfectly decent people, highly competent, very well read, very humane, but giving off POW vibes we are not picking up on. It's entirely possible that bad actors have a gun, or energy weapons, or lasers directed at them and their kids and their bank accounts, right? And there's always kompromat and fake sex tapes, followed by fake witnesses.
3) How likely is it that this infection of atrocious behavior is now affecting the Indian government as well?
4) Do you have friends in the FDA, military, DARPA, CIA. FBI, Google, Tesla....that you might be able to talk to about questions 1, 2, and 3?
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We judge from where we are:🇷🇺is not here,get informed!!🚨
I know more 🎉
Tax payers should not be paying for companies bad investments.
Finklie is a huge propagandist. He's like Dugin on the Ukraine side!
If proukrainian experts and supporters had more to go on then ideology and r hetoric things might be different but its difficult to argue with production figures and man power numbers.
You may believe that ukraine is going to win but at this point we know they wont. Its a virtual mathmatical impossibility at this point.
Mathematically,, you are mathematical?
@@RudolphoAqui i can do basic math yes. For example: if ukraine only fired 15 patriot interceptors a day (and they fire 2 at every target) they would have gone through 11,000 of them in 2 years and seeing as only 10,000 have been made to date (and they arent all in ukraine) and we're now into the third year i think its pretty clear how this is going to end. Wanna talk about artillery shells?
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Ukraine getting more air defences and shells, China coming back for its historical lands, and due to unlimited friendship putin will give more to China, yes it’s pretty clear how things will end.
Your mixed up you are the "EMPIRE OF LIES"
I love how people still don't believe western media 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Thank you Jonathan 🩵💛
As a Ukrainian I'm so grateful for everything you do for Ukraine