We busted the biggest golf ball myth - stop playing 'Tour' golf balls!
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- čas přidán 13. 02. 2020
- Looking for a golf ball for a good player? Or a golf ball for a slow swing?
Golf balls really do impact your performance. And if you're playing a "Tour" golf ball, chances are you're losing out in the distance and spin department. We kinda knew you probably wouldn't believe us, so put together a test to prove our point.
We put the Titleist Pro V1X golf ball up against the new TaylorMade Tour Response and TaylorMade Soft Response golf balls.
We hit 10 shots with driver, 6 iron and wedge, taking out the bad hits, and took a look at ball speed, distance and spin.
The results are pretty interesting.
There are some major differences between these products regarding the covers of the ball and the compression.
If you want to learn more about the technology we use to test and the accuracy of our numbers, take a look at this video: • Urban Golf Simulator T...
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New sub... played the Srixon Q Star Tour Divide (orange/yellow) for the first time today in CRAZY winds. I play Chromesoft x with a 102 compression that are now in the trash litterally. Q STAR TOUR with a compression of 67... LONGER, STOPPED PEFECTLY, STRAIGHTER, and SPIT on the wind. Seriously, WTF was that? New tech is real boys, and that low compression q star tour divide was so F-ing good. Never thought a low compression ball could do that. I got nothing but a bunch of Chromesoft X in the trashcan outside.
Srixon NAILED it
Q Star Tour
I am a senior golfer with a slower swing speed and currently use a pro V1x. I am going out tomorrow and try the tour response ball. Thanks for video!
Great - let us know how you get on!
Thtow both ĺin the trash like my chromesoft X are presently residing.
Q STAR TOUR... You are welcome. I tried for the firat time ever the q star tour divide (orange/yellow) in CRAZY winds today.... SRIXON made a golf ball that is CRIMINALLY underrated. I tried and played all of them.... promise me you won't sleep on this one.... wind, no wind... just Amazing
Those fonts are just hideous on your graphics.
Great review when I had my Taylormade fitting they chose the Tour response for me and said stay clear of TP5. I’m a senior and 15 handicapper and have always believed that tour balls are for the pros. I do think a three piece is better than a two piece especially around the greens.
I bought a box of the tour response balls and played them today In NJ 40 degrees and I hit them very well! My driver is about 150-160 speed and I had some of my best drives today. Also I was able to stop a pitching wedge from 90 yards with 2-3 ft roll on solid greens
it's a great ball - TM will be making a loss on these!
Good stuff! I'm going to give the urethane Tour Response a try. First I've heard of them! I've been playing the Bridgestone BRX and the Titleist Trufeel. I'm currently an 7.9 handicap. James's numbers are quite close to mine. Hard to argue with that low driver spin and high wedge spin. But the real question is, "which ball do the dogs prefer?"
they prefer tennis balls.
@@urbangolf bridgestone b rxs for the most part, stable straight trajectory , dependable, great around the greens, decent distance... no reason to change.
once in a while I pull out an e9 -to blow out the cobwebs on the driver and turn a few heads.
Great. Tour Response vs Snell will be a viral video a lot of ppl are looking for now!
we will keep that in mind ;)
Really interesting review, great work, I am a 17 handicap player and currently use the TP5 so should probably switch to the Tour Response and will give this a try
thanks Phil - yeh, absolutely give it a try and see how you get on. It really depends on how you hit the ball, though. You get some 18-handicappers that crush it and some low single digit players pat it.
The difference between recreational golfers and tour pros is the former see every shot as straight but the latter see shape in every shot. The difference.
with “tour” balls is the coefficient of friction of the urethane cover layer which increases the ability to tilt the spin axis and shape shots. That’s a blessing and useful tool in the hands of a pro but the bane of the recreational golfer’s existence. 😂
Great review and game changer👏
thanks Keith - let us know how you get on if you try some different balls!
@@urbangolf Fantastic ball put it use a couple of weeks ago and won’t be going back. At least half a club longer with great spin and feel!
I played the TM Project A a few years ago. Great ball for me. Did they essentially replace that with the Tour Response?
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Why didn’t you do the comparison with tp5. Instead of prov1 x
Lots of data around and sometimes players get hung up on spin.
If you play a bump and run game around greens in chip with 7iron or hybrids or W and not use a lofted club then surlyn balls won't hurt your game.
Yea the vast majority of average golfers use some type of B&R game around the greens and don't really give 2 shi**s about spin. The only thing that really matters to them is distance.
Played with a guy numerous times that doesn't have a wedge or a wood in his bag. Just 3-PW. Chips with his 8 iron and is phenomenal at it. He shot in the 70's every time Ive played with him. He plays cheap Nitro balls.
Your swing looks good, do a lesson video please 🙏
If you don't get the strike consistent, what ball you use is irrelevant. But since I'm hitting more greens now, and I'm ready for a new dozen balls, giving these a go.
I play with budget clubs and medium swing speed, but never with a 'soft' ball. I've found srixon soft feel and thrown them back. So the titleist I have will be shelved for the next few weeks at least.
Love this! Does it have a big difference ‘gaming’ a sonartec fairway wood?
Monumental
I bought some used tour response and i really like them. I also bought some tour soft and i like them too.
Go to all around ball for the $ is srixon soft feel.
There is the perfect ball for everyone, the problem is finding it and if you do the chances are it will be changed in some way or become obsolete.
I don’t know my swing speed but 7 iron is 140 yards. Had a ball fitting and fitted to pro v1, lost no noticeable difference to budget balls such as Srixon AD333, Callaway warbirds etc. But ball stops on greens. Not convinced distance should matter for ball choice, got to be about scoring.
Those salesmen know their stuff.
Distance gets me there quicker and I score just fine with the new version of Callaway Supersoft. Love em !!! And,,,,, I have no problem stopping them on the green.
Hi James, very late to the party on this one. Only just discovered your channel but will be giving a like and subscribe. I would be similar to James (10hcap with 97/98mph driver SS) and I have found the Pro Vi1 & Prov V1x (I use them as I won boxes in club comp) just dont suit my game. I often felt I wasn't quite getting the results I should. I have heard great things about the Tour Response so am going to give them a go. Great video!
Thanks, Peter. Let us know how you get on with the new nut and if you get some extra distance!
@@urbangolf will do! all the best
I’m about the same speed as you 165 ball speed 18 handicap 🤣 going to try the tour bx ball
Let us know how you get on!
I liked your comment that at slower swing speeds it’s all about the cover. I’ve never heard anyone on You Tube say that before, but it is so true. I’ve recently used the new version of the Callaway Supersoft balls, 2 piece with the “Paraloid hybrid” cover (basically a fancy surlyn ionomer, not urethane) that fly far and run out good with the driver and fairway woods, but they don’t check up at all on approach shots. I have also (just for comparison) just recently tried a sleeve of Taylor Made Tour Response balls which are low compression 3 piece balls with a urethane cover. Yes, they are at a higher price point than the Supersofts, and they may give you a couple of fewer yards of driver distance, but (even for a 71 year old, now 18 handicapper) their performance and spin on approach shots and around the green are far superior to the Supersofts. They actually check up instead of running off the green. I’m switching to them. I’m pretty sure my handicap will go back down with the strokes saved in the short game. 🏌️♂️⛳️😎
Hi Mark - thanks for the comment. Glad to see you have realised there is heaps of (wilful) misinformation regarding balls out there! 100 yards and in without the urethane cover is frankly disastrous!
I play off +1 and play the Taylor Made RBZ soft. Dozen ball for about £15. Play a ball thats nice and soft, but also the balls I take on my practice ground are the same I play on the course with. Golfs about repetition, why practice with a topflite and play comps with a pro v1. I have 2 dozen RBZs and all my practice is with these. If I change to say a tour response, then again I will buy 2 Dozen and use these for practice/comps.
What brand of swing monitor/analyzer is that?
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Thank you Morpheus
Regular amateurs, especially guys with a slower swing speed definitely can't use a tour ball properly but the question always is whether the mid range balls are good enough around the greens compared with the tour balls. Once they reach that around the greens, amateurs should definitely avoid tour balls
it's all about the cover around the greens, and therefore if a ball has a decent urethane cover it will perform well
@@urbangolf Are you saying that the cheaper mid range balls are as good around the greens as the tour balls. If so, there is absolutely no need to play a tour ball since most amateurs can't compress it enough. On the other hand, if performance around the greens is superior with the tour balls, it does matter. Very few amateurs hit greens in regulation and can manage one or two putts. Being nGIR, getting the ball lose for an up and down or at most a bogey makes a huge difference to their score
@@ponnappaganapathy9941 around the greens as long as the ball has a urethane cover then the performance will be comparable. Then, as the test shows, slower swing speeds would get more performance out of a lower compression ball on full shots.
@@urbangolf Am just curious, are you saying any urethane covered ball performs the same around the greens. If so, the ball you pick should be based on compression for your swing speed and a urethane cover
@@ponnappaganapathy9941 yes, alongside some other things like consistency of manufacture etc but essentially yes
Good articulate explanation of what I discovered for me, I just couldn't get the compression and distance from the ProV that I could from "inferior" balls. I tried and tried but eventualy dialed in another ball. Discussed this with a Titleist rep, I play their clubs. Couldn't get an answer other than the false marketing blurb. Unfortunately thats big US companies for you, market and money before consumer interests and honesty! Cynical but true I'm afraid.
Glad you took something from the video, Tom. You've gotta see through the bs!
Tour players hit a variety of shots at a variety of swing speeds. You don't have to have Dustin Johnson's swing speed to benefit from a tour ball. Lower compression means lower spin. Lower spin means lower control for all players.
Hi Jeff, thanks for the reply. Respectfully, we think you're missing the point. It’s more nuanced. Obviously there is optimal spin for all shots and too much is as bad as too little on all shots. Point of the video is to say a normal ball speed player gets more performance from a softer ball. They are only using the cover and not getting near the core with the harder balls.
What ball are you playing and why? Has this video made an impact on a future decision?
I play with a cheaper ball because I cannot control trajectory, spin or distance at will.....like most amateurs, so premium balls are a complete waste of money.
@@petermartinaitis8166 if you have a slower swing speed you are probably also picking up distance with the cheaper ball!
How good is Volvik?
Haven't done much testing - if you can find right compression and cover combo then could work for you...
The tour response is only £5 less than TP5 so not a lot of point changing really.
Hi Jim - yes, but unless you absolute rip it, it will perform better for you and you'll save some money!
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I still shoot 77 with Maxfli golf ball, save your money people..
What type of Maxfli ball are you using? Thanks
Brilliant video, so personally I would rather play with the tour response than the pro v1 and save money, funny enough I currently play with the soft response because of the price and feel but I do notice when I have a nice shot onto the green the ball runs away and leaves me with a two putt were as if I start playing with the tour that could change to a one put majority of times👀🏌♂️hopefully but a big BUT I loose to many balls to pay over £30 a dozen😭