Why Poland’s Centrist Government Is Struggling
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Poland's results in the EU elections have reaffirmed its two-party political tug-of-war between Tusk's Civic Platform and the PiS who are rising in the polls. In this video, we'll explain why this is happening and what it means for Poland's future.
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Every time I watch a TLDR vid on my country I realize how many important details are skipped over in their videos...
Plus they still are biased with how they mention corruption scandals only from PiS without mentioning how PO just lost their power in 2015 due to same reason.
Any recommendations for Jon polish speakers
@@Tola5657 Notes from Poland website is a good source for Polish politics. Politico Europe is also usually on point, although more less detailed than Notes from Poland.
@@Tola5657good times bad times. Most of their vids cover geopolitics though instead of focusing on PL only
They are really bad in researching every topic. It's very surface level and full of errors. Every single one of them. They make too much content and stretch themselves too thin. You only notice it once they talk about things you actually know about but it's every single of their videos.
This headline is false… if anything public support for the PiS is still polling below their 2023 result. Furthermore every coalition has troubles. The Confederation alliance is also ignored in this video, they have seen actual growth in support.
4.76 xd
@@villejag5963 od tego minęło 9 lat jak coś
@@uwagajedzietramwaj_ oddaje prawde, onuce z Afd sorry Kremla
@@villejag5963 konfa w wyborach do europarlamentu uzyskała 12%, no ale spoko dalej podniecaj się wynikami z 2015
@@uwagajedzietramwaj_ FN we franchise tez duzo, a jak wyszlo w wyborach wiemy. Konfa (onuce) jak zwykle dyze w necie I inba w świecie. Jako ex-czlonek wiedzialbym :) nikt mnie tak bardzo nie przekonal ze lewactwo dobre jest jak pare lat w konfie ❤️
Except pis is not on the rise? Rulling coalition has problems but that doesn't mean that pis doesn't have problems as well
Again?
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Yeah I'm co confused, for the first time in a long time, PO is ahead in polls. Only konfederacja is polling higher but they were at like 14-15% in polls at one point.
This video just shows how little insight the author has on polish politics. PiS is and will be on the decline unless something radical happens. KO is as strong as it has ever been. Potential danger may come from confederation which has just formed an eu party with afd which is wild and there was no mention about it.
True. Konfederacja ftw
"Bro, Lepper hasn't been the leader of PiS. He was the leader of Samoobrona (which literally means Self-defense). From 2005 to 2007, PiS had two coalition partners. The first was Samoobrona, and the second was LPR.
Funny Englishmen doesn't understand Polish politics. Understandable. Have a nice day
Extreme clickbait. video at all isn't about the right-wing oppositions rise, more about the problems and internal issues facing the current coalition. Yes by proxy that woiuld mean the opposition would be seen more favourable, but it's not the important part of the video at all.
Look at anynews outlet. There is non without clickbait. Why? Because it is of interest for those gullible to clickbait. The people who actually know the outlet look beyond that.
Yes, it's not that the videos themselves aren't good, but it's like these guys have a stock of 4/5 pre-made video titles and then just change the country and a word or two. A byproduct of the attention economy we unfortunately live in.
Its the game you have to play on youtube to get noticed, unfortunately. Don't hate the player hate the game. Some of the most reliable channels I watch are also forced into making clickbaity titles. And yeah, its fricken annoying. But its not really the channels fault. Its the algorithm's. I myself am working my way away from google. Admittedly, youtube is going to be one of the hardest bits. There's really no replacement. But some easy starting places are ditching google search ( it sucks now anyway) and chrome (Firefox, brave, take your pick).
The thumbnail is literally politico's poll of polls with PiS and PO swapped. If that's not clickbait I don't know what is.
Damn I really don't want TLDR to become that kind of media......
I'm from Poland and this movie is a masquerade. If you present news from foreign political scenes in the same way as from Poland, I don't know if you are a trustworthy source.
you probobly watch TVP TVN propoganda broadcast from Berlin :)
@@covfefe1787 Niezbyt kolego 😂
The question now is - who would benefit from this negative narrative? I suppose it's a revenge for low impact within EPP.
nie zesraj sie przyjebie
It's superficial stuff by kids.
Dude man (Andrzej Lepper) acused for sexual harasment was diferent party called ,,Samoobrona". (Selfdefence)!
1:50 - Not it's leader, but as the article said - deputy prime minister - which was leader of the coalition party to PiS - Samoobrona (Self-Defence of the RP). And it was cut short because everybody hated Lepper's guts(afromentioned deputy prime minister), due to his corruption alligations, sexual harrasment alligations and him simply being a jerk. Having that in mind PiS called for an early elections hoping for new majority without Samoobrona but instead, that election was won by Civic Platform.
But who would remember this small detail? :)
So, Lepper was a leper then.
go back to your old desk
Hmmmm… I’m on the fence, however, I really can’t see why people waste time on discussing this?
@@JenniferA886 it's important
@@sr.s6852 ok, please explain? Desk or couch? Which is better?
@@JenniferA886the sofa is different and therefore inherently bad 🙃
@@grapesurgeon both change coming from within yourself, and change coming from outside yourself?
It's not even a clickbait, it's straight up misinformation.
It is. It is also a German sponsored channel. Now what could be a purpose of creating a narrative that tries to manufacture a perception of crisis of 'far right anti EU party on the rise! Projected to overtake reasonable government!' ? And do it in the minds of mainly Western, English speaking population? What action to be taken in the future, this would be a justification for?
PiS is not on the rise, there is literally a group of their politicians wanting to leave for a New Party.
You messed up this time. 1. We don't literate "PiS". 2. If TD, Left and Civic Platform formed a common list, they would have a thumping majority (Hondte system) 3. They will form common list because TD's and Left's polls are disaster. 4. Lepper (sexual harasser) wasn't PiS leader. In fact these two PiS ministers were recently jailed because they persecuted this Lepper guy. 5. Head of Supreme Audit Office isn't necessarily corrupt. He just...owns a brothel? 6. Abortion liberalization is already dead in the water for a day or two. 6. It all boils down to who will become our president in 2025. We have no idea who will run.
Ciężko mi uwierzyć żeby Lewica i TD weszły w wspólna listę z KO
@@blank4844 jak beda mialy takie wyniki jak w europarlamentarnych, to co zrobia? Nawet jak oficjalnie nie utworza wspolnych list, to wielu politykow sie przepisze do KO.
They absolutely won't form a common list LOL, especially not TD. Even if PL2050 will collapse (which is possible, but imo not likely), PSL will 100% go separate, thay are easily able to get through 5% just on themselves, joining Tusk would simply be suicidal, do you think that a party with more than 100 years of history and thousands of local activists will just suddenly decide to stop existing (as that's what joining Tusk would de facto mean) becuase they fell in the polls from 15% to 10%? Wishful thinking.
System d'hondta jest proporcjonalny, więc wspólna lista (ze względu na samą ilość miejsc do sejmu) by nie miała sensu.
@@maxmakowka według obliczeń z wyborów parlamentarnych wspólna lista dałaby koalicji 15-20 miejsc więcej
Wait, what? PiS is falling in the polls. The problem is that Konfederacja is the primary beneficiary.
PiS had better results in EU elections than in parliamentary
@@redguy3256 because far less people voted. 70% turnout in national, 40% in EU. People just seem to be less interested in european elections
@@rafatymoniewicz7735 It's no argument, they could have voted on PiS less as well
@@redguy3256 Its a common theme that in lower turnouta bigger parties benefit
@@redguy3256 I mean they did, if the same amount of people voted on PIS it would have a much better result
Thought that TLDR is a reliable source of information but it turns out that it isn't. Lack of knowledge, silly extremely silly mistakes. TLDR is creating a fake image of the situation in Poland. TLDR is failing to show that PiS is also struggling. As a result of this struggle former PiS Agriculture Minister , currently MP resign as a member of the party. The turmoil in Lesser Poland local parliament where PiS won majority where for weeks they couldn't elect their leader, causing tensions between local PiS members and the party headquarters. PiS is also tired of Kaczynski. Some MPs spoke about it out loud that leadership must change. The list of issues within the paty is far more complicated than Tusk happy coalition. Tusk is aware that with Duda in office it'll be difficult to do anything. 2025 election will be crucial for Tusk's government.
It's not new. Basically, every single one of their videos about Poland were trash.
Clickbait thumbnail at the very start .. 🤦♂
edit: Seems this has been fixed to a better one
nothing changed, it's still bad clickbait lmao
the thumbnail still is terrible, its literlaly KO and PiS swapped in the polls
Polish person here with some context/minor corrections:
1. Civic Coalition (KO) is a slightly leftist party (about as much left leaning as PiS is right leaning), they are liberals
2. saying that PiS is creaping back up is not exactly accurate, the EU ellections were the first elections they didn't come first in, ending their 10 (or 9 I don't remember) election streak, the comeback was caused some events including a soldier dying at the Belarussian border, and arrests of some other soldiers which caused public outrage and a temporary spike in PiS's and loss in KO's results that just happened to align with the ellections, if not for them getting lucky PiS would have gotten less votes.
3. Party loyalists everywhere is nothing new, PiS just did it on an unpresidented scale and without even trying to hide it, a tactic that seems to have cought on because KO is doing the exact same thing rn.
4. The EU funds were partially released earlier, without any reforms (I have no idea what reforms happend this January btw, I'm pretty sure they didn't pass any laws regarding the juditionary system, the president has been blocking almost everything Tusk has been trying to do, the only thing they've maneged to do is change the people in power, with some of their methods being questionable legaly at best)
5. The government coaltion has only one thing uniting them, being against PiS, there are problems with passing everything.
6. I wouldn't call what the President does, causing chaos, it's more just him desperately trying to keep the little bit of power he still has, while Tusk proceeds to ignore him whnever possible, which causes chaos, as our consitution is clearly not specific enough about who can do what in a situation where the prime ministed and the president don't get along. The chaos is a direct result of a bad constitution, and an even worse juditionary system (courtesy of PiS, but to be fair the precedense was set by KO's previous government)
7. Due to infighting and the beef with the President, that the government doesn't do anything, KO had 100 postulates for the first 100 days of their rule, they did 17 (depending on how you count it could be slightly more or less), the only thing they do is purge the structures from PiS which is just not enough for most people.
U nas KO może uchodzić za lekko lewicowe, ale na zachodzie takie tematy, jak aborcja, czy związki parterskie nie są uznawane za lewicowe, tylko za od lat funkcjonującą w praktyce normę (z którą nawet przytłaczająca większość tamtejszych konserwatystów nie ma problemu i nie zamierza z nią walczyć). Z ich perspektywy KO jak najbardziej jest centrowe. Cała nasza scena polityczna skręca nieco w prawo w porównaniu do zachodu.
PiS natomiast wymyka się prostemu podziałowi na prawicę i lewicę. Światopoglądowo konserwatyści (prawica), ale gospodarczo socjaliści (lewica), a do tego wyraźne ciągoty autorytarne. Nie dziwi mnie natomiast, że na zachodzie w uproszczeniu często mówią o nich "far right", bo tam np. zaostrzanie i tak najbardziej restrykcyjnego prawa aborcyjnego w Europie, to już nawet nie jest "konserwatyzm", tylko średniowiecze.
@@psow4062 Zgadza się, jednak uważam, że przy analizie polskiej polityki lepiej jest przyjąć polskie realia lewicy i prawicy, gdzie KO jest lekko lewicujące a PiS jest (pożal się Boże) prawicą
@@kammci5175 Ale wtedy to video byłoby zrozumiałe tylko dla polskiej widowni a jest nagrywane dla globalnej.
Weird video. Doesn't look like that from the inside of Poland.
The PiS's rise is literally 2-3 percentage points, yet noticeable.
Moreover, The Third Way is a coalition itself of 2 similar-size parties: PSL and PL2050, so it's actually 4 quite big parties (and other smaller movements) in power
PL2050 is no longer similar size, it was one year ago. Now its estimated that PSL is responsible of 75-80% votes for Third Way
@@polonianovaYeah, TD was a fad
@@polonianova Well, have you got source for this? Is that a realisation from the distribution of votes between the candidates, since they are on the single ballot?
@@rachityczny6364 after EU election there were some PSL members unhappy with coalition calculating these things. I was a month ago so it would be hard to find these, but looking at Third Way falling support it sounds logical for me that more dedicated PSL electorate stays there and newer PL2050 has it harder.
@@polonianova So the peole who want more powe saying their share of voters were higher is unuestionable?
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The change in abortion laws that you mentioned was actually voted upon two days ago in the parliament, and was just on the edge of being successful; there were 215 votes in favour and 218 against (218 needed to pass) and 3 members of the Civic Coalition abstained from voting, and nearly half of the Third Way party voted against, which further shows the cracks between the coalition. There has been so much uproar since and people are getting fed up with this. Also the problem in Poland is the nearly American polarisation - people don’t vote for PiS because they think their policies are good, they vote for them because they hate Tusk and other parties. They have been brainwashed so much in the last decade that it’s just sad to watch, and this polarisation creates so much divide between ordinary people…
Just to add something about the abortion law vote: one MP was in a hospital (so couldn't vote), but two others refused to vote and have been promptly stripped of their positions (one of them was a vice-PM).
It's also the other way around, they vote for PO because they don't want PiS in power.
@martsien9627 nothing like complaining about polarisation and then contributing to it lol
@@Desteroyah195 And one of them was in US on official delegation.
@@Desteroyah195 that’s right, glad you mentioned it. They weren’t stripped yet, just suspended, hence people are afraid that after some time passes they will be reinstated quietly, with no consequences to their actions. Time will tell though
I think worth mantioning is the Konfederacja. A far-right party which has been slowly getting more support as Left and Third Way are loosing theirs.
Also consider the fact the incumbent president keeps disagreeing with Goverments ideas. Even if the abortion law passed (it failed by three votes) Andrzej Duda already announced he would veto the law.
Konfederacja has also started declining
You must not understand what "far-right" is...
It doesn't work the way that every part right of centrists is "far-right"... 🤦♂️
@@pawekasprowicz2543but they’re
@@pawekasprowicz2543 my guy, I understand that a lot of people use far right as a buzz word, but cmom, how can you call Konfederację Korony Polskiej anything other that far right
@@pawekasprowicz2543 I don't think you know what the term means. Allow me to help with a quote:
"Far-right politics, or right-wing extremism, is a spectrum of political thought that tends to be radically conservative, ultra-nationalist, and authoritarian, often also including nativist tendencies."
Konfederacja is both radically conservative and (ultra) nationalist. They might even fit the fascist lable, considering all their sexist, transphobic, xenophobic and other hateful remarks and believes. Combine that with the "Need for a strong Polish leader and Polish state" and you basically have fascism. And before disagreeing, do a google search please.
Not a single mention of Konfederacja
Because there is nothing to be talked about. I mean if you really think they are in any way, shape or form "better" than all the other parties then you are delusional.
@@themeanmachine84 I don’t think that Konfederacja is a good party, I just think it’s weird that they weren’t mentioned at all in the video even though they have risen a lot in the polls, which also has an effect on PiS’ polling
Much preferred the old setup at the desk versus you sitting on a couch.
PiS is absolutely not on the rise, the coalition is in trouble, but PiS is not where the votes are going
This is pointless. Polls will continue shifting over the next 3 years and ofc coalitions are difficult to run.
You didn't touch on the matter that pis has it's own internal problems, and you only mentioned briefly that coalition can't do much by giving example of abortion. You forgot that abortion is just an addition to coalitions problems, the actual drivers of discontent, are actualy: shady practices while cleaning up after pis, botching the work of parlimentary commisions that they said were to settle controversies of the previous goverment (like embeseling of public funds, spying on own citizens and politicians, selling visas and more), immigration policies, handling of the army, and of course the fate of big infrastructure projects (like atomic energy and CPK, which have huge public support). These factors give public an impression that Tusk's coalition doesn't care about needs of nation or (at worst) they can give some people ideas that the coalition actualy caters to external interests.
Failing to mention these things appropriately takes a huge chunk of perspective.
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Well, this description is quite shallow. So let me add some perspective. Long read.
1. Before the 2023 elections, KO (former PO) and the entire opposition campaigned to remove PiS from power. PiS, however, after 8 years of power during the pandemic and war, as well as countless image scandals, focused on the anti-Tusk campaign, which had the opposite effect.
2. Despite this, KO lost the elections, but PiS, which won them, was unable to form a coalition. KO + 3dWay and the Left formed a government under the slogan of cleansing the country of PiS.
3. However, the "reforms" undertaken by the coalition were not very subtle; some voters noticed that changing the party did not mean better standards, but a simple takeover of the institution.
4. After taking over the institution, the coalition's common goal began to fade. After half a year in power, KO has not presented Poland's development, it is very reactive, Tusk has no successes in the international arena, even though one of its slogans was his good relations with the EU authorities. In half a year, he suffered 5 significant defeats in the EU.
Due to the lack of success, the final test of the coalition's effectiveness was the change in the abortion law, which failed to pass by 4 votes in parliament. This is a big blow to the coalition because it shows how fragile the foundations it was built on. Parties like the Left and PSL (which is part of 3dWay) have nothing in common.
5. KO is growing, but at the expense of its coalition partners. The left wing, but especially 3dWay, has dropped significantly in the polls, but the right wing party Konfederacja, in which PiS sees a coalition partner, is growing significantly. PSL is also much closer to PiS than the left-wing KO. Over time, the memory of PiS scandals will begin to fade, and if Tusk does not create a solid basis for his coalition, his support will begin to decline.
6. President Duda is mentioned here as a blocking element, but in fact it was Tusk who adopted a very aggressive policy towards the president, pushing solutions without his consent (cohabitation is in force in Poland, the Prime Minister must cooperate with the President on some issues and needs his consent). The last example was the sending of Bogdan Klich as Poland's ambassador to the USA. However, Klich needed the president's signature, which he did not obtain, so formally he cant be an ambassador. Klich went to the USA (PL's most important ally) as charge d'affaires. Tusk does not want to cooperate with the president because he wants to discredit him to make the elections easier for his candidate next year.
Most Poles don't need anti-Tusk campaign. I remember his failure of previous PO-PSL government, with Butt-Licking narrative towards Germany and Russia. Angela Merkel is even hated in Germany for promoting mass migration. Policy of over relaying on Russian energy sources wasn't good as well.
If you dont Understand local politics, dont cover them
By now I watch so much TLDR (literally every video) that I can mute the video and speak the repetitive phrases from memory
Yeah you kinda dropped the ball on this one... Yes the coalition has it's big issues, but in no way is PiS on the rise, heck they have a lot of their own issues, especially in local governments
They did win the most votes in the local elections, but they may have to form local coalitions with some other parties… sometimes
Table is still missing 🤷🏻♀️
I wouldn't say that as 'failing'...
This video is a perfect example why you must make a research before talking about anything. It's filled with inaccuracies and miss many important things
The Third Way (shown in green on the charts) is key to Tusk's majority. And its voters did not want a full-scale war between Tusk and PiS. They want the government to focus on developing the country instead of fighting political opponents. That is why the support for the Third Way in the opinion polls is crumbling.
Poles do not like to express their opinions when it comes to political preferences, unless they are some marches, rallies, etc., so the results that are visible now are simply people who go out and talk, thus increasing theoretical support, of course there is still a silent part of society, just like in Great Britain, which does not contribute to these "predictions" and can be seen in the 3rd-way results chart at 4:50. Likewise, the confederation with its army of teenagers from social media had a disproportionate amount of support to the real election result (because maybe 15, 16 and 17-year-olds can't vote, ironic).
Polls usually don't include people who cannot legally vote.
as a Pole I'm not afraid of losing power by Tusk now.There is irreversible process to judge previos PIS party their incompetence ,nepotism ,cronyism.The general jurisdiction reform it was a kinda replacement of judgeship who didn't have chance to enter high stances before ,now everything steadily is comming back based on merit .I'm afraid that Tusk may lose contact with general public like it used to be before.He is too liberal for Polish standard and people may not follow him .The third way party wants to show that they believe in conservative values ,but they don't like PIS.PIS represents not only conservatism but socialism .They represent the worst of both world labour and conservatives like Farage
As a pole you shelling out for Donald tusk is weird Pis is a objectively better party than Tusks party he literally wanted power so much he worked with the communists. The confederation is the only party that represents polish values now maybe Pis if they become more economically libertarian.
@@gamingwithdwight6952 pis has too much nepotism in their blood to represtent conservatism
Remember fellas. Nothing in Poland is legal. Any case can be deemed unconstitutional or antidemocratic and half of the parliament and judges stay behind it. The Ministry of Justice recently ordered a set of legal opinions on an important matter for the future of the whole judiciary and half of them says 'illegal' and the other half 'legal'. What is the judge going to support nobody knows.
Ahhhh Pis gets me every time 😂😂
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Finally the vid about Poland! I thought that you forgot lmao
Bzdura!
And at 1:50, these accusations were made at PiS's junior coalition partner, not PiS itself. PiS then called an early election which they hoped to win, but they lost.
1:52
Theese allegations weren't against PiS's leader Jarosław Kaczyński, they were against their Coalition Ally Samoobrona (Self Defense), specificly their leader Andrzej Lepper and his motley crew of various less-than-savory individuals.
It feels a bit like every political comment on Poland I’ve seen in recent years is either about the PIS party winning or loosing an election.
Can we have a different narrative for once?
I’m sure there is more to Poland’s political landscape and pressing questions than just whether ‘To PIS or Not to PIS’.
That's how polarisation works.
theres konfederacja that is doing better and better even tho some people play pretend and dont want to look at the fact that more and more people vote for them in every election
This is genuinely one of the worst TLDR videos/analyses ever. Major miss. Do better.
they are all like that
Tone down your clickbait!
As a polish voter for TD Party (Trzecia Droga - Third Way) i can say only one, you are so wrong that this is harmful XD
1. Donald Tusk and his PO (Platforma Obywatelska - Civic Platform) is under no circumstances centrist. It is a light left or left centrists (do not cofuse with center-left).
2. PiS is not a nationalist party XDD - PiS is conservative populists party.
Unfortunately, the video is misleading. Tusk is not as weak, nor is PiS as strong as the video would suggest. Now there is a one-year break until the next elections - this time presidential - and Poles have a break from politics. That's why now politicians are jostling behind the scenes before they have to nominate their candidates for the president of Poland. The presidential elections in Poland are an opportunity for the emergence of new political movements, in addition to consolidating the current power. Therefore, Tusk's candidate will most likely win, but at the same time several new candidates will test their public support. This was the beginning of the career of Tusk, the Kaczyński brothers from PiS and Szymon Hołownia - the current Speaker of the Sejm, and early candidate with the third result in the 2020 presidential elections. Running in the presidential elections is a way to build your future political position in Poland, which is why now Polish politicians are kicking themselves behind the scenes to ensure that their candidacy is put forward by the old (or new) political forces.
Excuse me what? One fail in parliament voting doesn’t mean the end of the government
This is so clickbait, I didn’t expect it from you guys
They’re bad in videos connected to Poland, for some reason tbh.
@@metalsonnThey’re English
@@BB-hx4mjCool. I wonder why they're videos on Poland are so bad
As a person who lives in Poland, I am very disappointed at the lack of knowledge demonstrated in this video.
5:19 TLDR why choose abortion as an example of the stalemate in Poland’s politics ?. Why are most European Union member countries literally obsessed with giving women rights to abort pregnancies, along with low fertility rate are the reason for low growth in the population , who will replace the who is going to replace the working class, migrants from Africa, Eastern Europe and the Middle East ?. Most of these migrants are bring the same ideology which has and is devastating their countries of origin.
I'm from Poland. For us perspective the most important will be president election in next year. If oposition president win, goverment would be collapse.
Every presidential election is advertised as "the most importsnt after 1989 blah blah blah"
I tried to comment on it, but CZcams censors the truth...
Germany is seriously concerned about the growing problems of their man in Poland, Mr Tusk.
Okay so you made in this video some mistakes, which are bothering me. First of all, PiS isn’t an “nationalist” party. It is conservative right, but it is far from calling it an nationalist. At the same time Civic Platform (in polish KO) isn’t central. They were central before 2014. Now they are left wing with some resemblance of the canter.
Second mistake- you didn’t mention that so far KO broke almost as many constitutional rules in 6 moths as PiS in 8 years, which is pulling people in Poland back to PiS. Not to mention about false accusations and literally tortures of certain priest, who’s only guilt was to work closely with PiS while leading an charity organization. Add to that signing the Immigration Act or allowing Germany to literally drop immigrants from Africa in Poland. Oh and I also forgot about the situation in the army. Current government want to cut spendings for military for 25%, while KO basically allows both immigrants, and left-wing groups to attack Polish soldiers unpunished. One of the soldiers got mortally wounded on Polish-Belarus border, less than 2 km from the place where Tusk had meeting with his supporters. And when this soldier died, right before EU elections, KO tried to cover it up.
Third mistake- you mentioned about all this “corruption” in the PiS government and how Andrzej Duda is trying to make “as much mess as possible”. First of all, PiS government was probably the most corruption-free since 1989. Sure, there were some missteps and some politicians had to be punished. But truth is that 99,9% of all this scandals were fake news made by KO to damaged Polish position in the word. Also Andrzej Duda… he never said about making as much mess as possible. He literally told that he is ready to work with new government as long, as their decisions will serve Poland and it’s people. Sadly 99% of current government decisions only further damage Polish situation.
Very good and solid videos. I would recommend adding numbers to some of your graphs, for example the percentages in the pie charts.
The setup of Poland's democracy is much like France : no regional struggles, unity of language and interests. So, no coalitions were ever experienced. Like in France, centrism is liked but quickly rejected.
Cause it's the same Prime Minister the last time it was noticeably failing, he's a cult leader, not a leader.
Civic Coalition is left, not centrist.
the hell is going on with the graph in the thumbnail
If I'm not mistaken PIS still had the majority votes but failed to form a coalition. The current PO government is the 2nd place with smaller parties.
To summarize the PiS polling based on the graph:
Oct 2023: 35%
Mar 2024: 28%
Jul 2024: 30%
Most of these votes coming from the 3rd way''s decline vote being split between the Civic Coalition and PiS by the looks of it. The 3rd way having jumped in the polling at the election. Overall the polling shows that Konfederation plus PiS are at about 40% combined votes. Granted this polling doesn't seem too accurate.
Current polish government is failing indeed, but the opossition (PiS) is doing everything they can to be unpopular for not radicalised voter, they only care for those who will vote for them anyway. This country's politics is a mess.
*Reads the title*
Me: You sure about it bro?
Any issues Poland have are more than dwarfed by the U.K. problems !!!
Your factual credibility is struggling if anything.
Polish person here. What are you talking about? What is this insane BS xD Our gouvernment is fine! Way better than previous one for sure!! 😂
Guys I think this is my first CZcams comment. Get your shit together this is embarrassing. You are supposed to be reliable news.
Very disappointing with this clickbait, shame
I don't think So
Informative video, thank you
no its not! Its BS! Srsly, Im Polish person, this video is just bunch of lies!
I would be nice to give an explanatory bullet point as to what the abortion compromise from 1993 is, because this is completely meaningless for me, so I cant really understand the pro and cons of this decision
Polish politics scene is very simple, from 2001 there is battle between PIS and PO, it’s is similar to USA two parties system
When talking about the scandals ending the first term of PIS government, you show Andrew Lepper on screen. He was accused of sexual harassement, but he wasn't the leader of PIS, but Samoobrona, their junior coalition member.
PO isn't really centrist so much as it is catch-all party. It's members views vary a lot and even if aggregated they'd still be centrist it isn't an accurate depiction.
very much clickbait
shame
WOW where do I start (Deep breath)! I'm British and I've lived in Poland for 17 years. I have a page of notes on what you got wrong with this piece. Let's start with the a coalition. The system, unlike the UK's, will inevitably produce a coalition, the former government was a coalition. They operate on a "winner takes all" system here. So ALL and I repeat ALL senior civil servants are REPLACED, so when you talk about the "institutional" opposition or "pushback", what that means is they are fighting against the previous governments loyalists! As far as current coalition differences is concerned. The only way to beat PiS was to do what they had done and form a coalition. Tusk did and although , you are right there is differences, they are now showing the previous administration for what they were, a nest of vipers. My feeling is that the population of Poland will have patience and wait for the MANY court cases to unfold before they lose confidence in Tusk and his coalition!
You kinda clickbaited this one. It's a fragile yet steady government.
I'm 29s into the video, and sorry this is enjoying, as I am Polish and follow politics the current GOVERNMENT IS NOT CENTRIST! They are moving with every decision and every promise to the left. In the government, there is a group called "The Third Road" which is centrist, but also you have the hard left, and PO which is hard to describe on the political spectrum but netherworlds LEFT leaning.
as a pole, i thought it couldnt be wrose than PiS but hell nah bro they proved me wrong
You are omitting extreamly important things the current polish government is doing. Or actually not doing. They delayed the construction of a new mega airport in Poland for about 5 years and a new nuclear power plant for about 5 or 10 years as well, while both of these projects are heavly supported by majority of polish citizens, which contributed significantly to the medicore opinion about the government.
A coalition formed purely out of spite doesn't get along, wow, shocking. I also like how you're clearly not biased at all lol. And the people crying in the comments about PiS complete a perfect image of what you can easily call a bubble.
I'm a bit disappointed in TLDR, this is a very poorly researched video, and many things are just incorrect. I hope this is a single blunder video and not a common thing, as I wouldn't have seen these mistakes if I weren't from Poland myself.
Well, you got the 2005-2007 period horrifically wrong. The accusations of corruption and sexual harassment weren't aimed at PiS politicians (or its leader) but at members of Samoobrona, a coalition party. In fact, it was PiS politicians who accused some members of Samoobrona (including its chairman - whose photo you've shown) and lost the majority, forcing early elections. Other than that, you get things mostly right.
Though, I would add two more pieces to the puzzle. Firstly - Tusk, having gone the way of total criticism of pretty much every move made by the former PiS government during the pre-election period, found himself in a pickle. He cannot continue many of previous government's projects (mainly infrastructural ones - like the huge airport hub near Warsaw or nuclear power plants) without alienating his core voters. But by stalling these projects and slowly reworking them to cut their ties with PiS, he is starting to annoy his more moderate supporters. Secondly - using the argument that you need to seek "creative interpretations of the law" to clean up the mess left by "creative interpretations of the law" made by previous government tends to work for a couple of months, tops. At some point people start to develop a growing suspicion, that you're not so big on this whole "rule of law" either, and the only difference between you and your opponents is the fact, that you are slightly more palatable to the European Commission.
5:19 thats one misleading screen. If you have journalistic integrity, refrain from putting giant false writings on the screen
The vote on allowing abortion was held yesterday and it fell by 4 votes....almost everyone on the government side voted for it and almost everyone on PIS side voted against it. There were 2 abstentions and around 25 mp's didn't show up.
Ah, probably yet another video that doesn't even get half of the things right.
1) KO is not centrist. Its center-left. It is an important distinction as PiS that people in the west like to call 'far-right' is center-right(anyone calling PiS far-right is basically clueless). As a matter of fact, KO and PiS are literally the same shit, they just lean different directions, but have the same practices. The actual right (not even far-right), Konfederacja is strongest right wing party in Poland with about 12% backing and strongest left party is 'The Left' with half that or less as they are on their way to disappear form theSejm at first occasion as it stands right now. Everything else is centrist that leans certain way.
2) The 'purging' of the media is nothing more than replacing it with his own propaganda. Quite literally. It started mild, it is getting worse. People in Poland seem to forget that political agenda entered TVP in roughly 2011 or so during the rule of no other than Donald Tusk, it was not a creation of PiS, it was a creation of PO... PiS only remade it for itself as has KO did now again for themselves. It is also something that the chairman of PKW(national election committee) said himself in an interview for TVN shortly before elections last year when asked about political stance that TVP has taken. So he cleaned nothing. He just does what PiS was doing but so far in a milder way.
3) As for judges being axed and calling them 'PiS judges'... Shouldn't that ring any kind of bell in anyone's head? Judge is only good when it was elected by the ruling party? Otherwise he is an agent of the opposition? Doesn't that not only undermine entire judiciary system as a whole but also show that both KO and PiS have the same way of thought? Lets put our people everywhere so we can control everything?
4) KO lost the elections in 2015 because it ruined the economy of the country, produced unemployment rate of 15% and tried to swarm Poland with the migrants that currently ravage the western Europe(in fact migrants were the deciding factor). It had nothing to do with PO candidates themselves (although ms. Kopacz once said that people were throwing rocks at dinosaurs and once they threw enough stones dinosaurs were dying... No I am not kidding), it was the political stance it was taking and the way it ruled the country back then. Shortly after the elections last year, Adrian Zandberg, one of the leaders of 'The Left' and future coalition partner of Tusk said "PiS did not win in 2015 because it appeared out of nowhere and did something incredible, they won cause PO-PSL ruled badly". If KO's partner says this about their rule last time, shouldn't that by itself be a testament on how well Tusk ran the country? As a person in my mid 30's i can tell you this... I would give anything to be in early 20's during just ended PiS rule than what i had to endure cause of Tusk... And i never voted for PiS in my life, so yeah.
5) The EU blocking funds for Poland was nothing more than a political move proven by when they unlocked it. Poland received certain set of milestones we had to complete to unblock them and yet since PiS lost power and KO took over, none of them have been completed but magically the funds got unlocked. Fund lock was nothing more than 'we will unblock it only when the government that does everything we want be in power'.
Currently Tusk's biggest issue is figuring how to reduce the amount of talk of him being German agent after the last visit of German government to Poland. He is heavily criticized for thing's he has said even within his own coalition. And you have to remember that half the country already considers him a German asset for a while. Obedient dog that will do anything that his German overlords will command him to do.
He tried blocking CPK(central communication port), he tried to block the port in Świnoujście and is the c*** who made sure no nuclear power plants have been built in Poland (we already should have them working) for which average Poles have to pay for now by having most expensive electricity in entire EU - this is literally the effect of Tusk bowing to Merkel last time he ruled. Meanwhile third of a country voted for the man. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
You are skipping over a lot of nuances and details. At 1:00 in you're saying he liquidated all 17 regional national TV broadcasters- that is true, but only because this move allows them to dismiss the current leadership of those institutions, who are PiS apparatchiks, elected for a long term and unable to be recalled because PiS stacked another govt organization responsible for their oversight. Likewise, the ruling party is also indeed trying to deal with the judiciary crisis- PiS appointed new members of the judiciary without due process and blatantly circumventing the rules to stack the courts in their favor, but PO is aware that dismissing those judges leaves the question of all the judgments that have already been passed by those judges, leading to a potentially even more severe problems down the line, so that is not the solution they are going for.
Tusk just bolstered his party. It's clear you don't have a grasp of Polish politics. He used both of his coalition partners as essentially bumpers. The Left and The Third Way both massively failed with delivering their promises while Tusk's only very concrete policy has been witch-hunting PiS. PiS right now is fractured and is definitely not gaining support. Konfederacja on the other hand simingly gained their voters, but actually the total number of votes for them in the EU elections was the same as in the parliamentary elections, which makes sense because they talk a lot about the EU so they were able to mobilize their voters and get a good vote share.
3:25 If this graph is correct what you are saying makes no sense as it shows that they have basically the same level of popularity as they had since february, and that their popularity is significantly more compared to the PIS since the election.
You are in England, don't you have access to some Polish plumber that you can consult on what actually is going on in polish politics? Because just repeating what anglosphere journalists say about Poland is just spreading misinformation.
I watched 2 minutes and... I decided to unsubscribe. As a Pole I know the background quite well and this video is full of errors! Some clear like the claim that PiS is raising... while showing chart that it is actually falling and only recently KO managed to overtake it (they actually had less votes in last election but were able to form a coalition) to more nuanced like the fact that Andrzej Lepper (the guy in the picture described as PiS leader when talking about sexual allegations) was never a member of PiS (he was a leader of Samoobrona)...
If that's the meritoric value of materials about other countries then not only I am wasting my time but also get heavily misinformed.
How is compromise within a government coalition "struggling"? Isn't that the point of a coalition?
Since I follow Polish Politics let me explain in more simplicity of what is happenning,
Tusk - Centre-LEFT party has lost some support but at this moment they still lead in terms of support unlike PiS. This is because Tusks (KO - Civic Coalition) party had done everything in their power to shut down PiS (Law & Justice Party) including taking over their national broadcast channel and being dominated on social media. However, the right wing - Konfederacja is gaining momentum, is it believed that if they were to gain more MP's they could win maybe even next general election. PiS Is going down just like convervative goverment in UK.
This is 2 videos now that are on CZcams far before they're on nebula
The amount of misinformation and mistakes in this video are crazy😬
Please, seriously. Hire someone for these videos. As a Pole, for me it's just insulting. I can help you, I'm a polish woman, law student and also interesed in politics. Polish politics is more complicated, everything that's happening has a historic ang sociological context. You just don't know it.
Mostly good but for some reason you seriously omitted the fact that the Civic Platform also faced multiple corruption scandals, as well as allegations concerning the 2011 assassination of Lech Kaczyński. Though I understand that you may have a tough time coming across this in non-polish-language sources.
Main point is that "corruption allegations" are not something remotely unique to PiS across polish politics.
"PIS" in Afrikaans is a very strong and foul word for urine. 🤣