Lightroom 5: Backup Strategies from Julieanne Kost | Adobe Lightroom
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- In this episode of The Complete Picture, Julieanne Kost discusses backup strategies for the Lightroom catalog, incremental backup catalogs, photographs, presets, preferences, and additional supporting files. Of course there are many ways to manage files - this tutorial is intended to help you identify the best approach for your workflow.
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Lightroom 5: Backup Strategies from Julieanne Kost | Adobe Lightroom
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Julieanne you are my favorite, and the best Lightroom, if not all adobe image editing product, educator I have found, IN THE ENTIRE WORLD!. You explain things so well. Your videos are packed with helpful info and to the point. Thank you Thank you.
In my opinion she produces some of the very best explanations of Lightroom's intricacies.
Julieanne consistently gives the clearest explanations that I have come across. Congratulations and keep up the wonderful work!
God how many times have I watched this. Thanks Julieanne!
She is very calming.
What a great informative and professional video ! Thanks for sharing a comprehensive backup strategy that makes 100% sense
I love learning from you. Thanks Julienne!
Crystal clear as ever. Thanks Julieanne
Thank you for an incredibly clear and helpful video. I am moving my LR to a new computer and am taking the opportunity to rationalize my workflow and storage. This is just what I needed, although I may skip the dvd step in favor cloud for backup of backup! Thanks again for all of your videos.
Hi Julieanne. Thank You very much. Your video was very helpful. I am grateful for the generosity of people like you who help us understand this technology. I feel it's a disgrace that a multi billion dollar company like Adobe does not do a better job with tech support and standing behind their products. Thanks once again. You're a big help! John
Your explanation of this process was excellent. Thank you.
Love your videos Julieanne, Thank you!
Always helpful and well-explained. Thanks again!
Good information, a little correction, dvds arent used on your MAC because the fans were sucking dust into the láser head, so Apple scrapped them.
Great tutorial. Thanks Julieanne.
Great video. Only one thing i don't agree: the lightroom backups are not incremental, but are full, or total.
Thank you Julieanne, I will indeed sleep well tonight now!
This may be "splitting hairs", but LR does not do actual "Incremental" backups - they are full backups of the catalogue, each and every time. If they were true incremental backups, each successive backup would contain only the changes since the last backup. As a result of each backup being a full backup, the folder used for backups can grow large over time, especially if you are set to backup each time LR exits.
The one thing that I don't get is why hasn't the LR dev's incorporated a means to automatically preen the backup folder of older backups? I mean, if you've got 45 backups of your LR catalogue, are you really going to want to resort to a catalogue made 2 months ago, and loose everything you did to this point?
And...if you're backing up as illustrated in the video, or better yet, using the 3-2-1 backup strategy daily, then why backup the LR catalogue yet again? It's a moot point.
Here's what I do: All of my LR catalogues live in Dropbox - that way I can work on the same photos from multiple computers (smart previews) without having to sync anything. I also use the 3-2-1 backup strategy daily, and do no LR catalogue backups because I've already got them in 3 other places - 2 of those places are immediate backups through replication - one onsite and the other is offsite.
She means incremental to the scheduled daily backup
I have a feeling that since JK is one of the developers behind the design of LR and PS etc, she might actually know what she is talking about. Just sayin.
@@kenlor71 Jay is right, though it doesn't change JK's message
Great tutorial, thank you! Now, how would I go about restoring lightroom catalog etc. after a clean re-installation of my PC? Do I just copy back the catalog?
Great video
Hi Julieanne,
Thanks for your awesome tutorial. What program do you use for synching your local data from your computer to your backup drive? Thanks a lot!
I work with two machines, i use o single preset folder in a cloud service, then i created an alias from the original folder in cloud to the support original folder so each time i make a change or create a new preset it automatically will be recognized when i open Lr in the other machine.
You're the best! :)
Thank you, ma'am.
Thanks!
Hi Julieanne,
Thank you for the tutorial.
I know this is your own favourite strategy to keep backups of your work, but I would like to ask you something. Do you see any disavantage on keeping the catalogs in the same folder as pictures?
Waiting for you kind answer
I've pointed the location of my Lightroom catalog to my Dropbox folder. So when my computer crashes, I still have a backup on Dropbox.
How to you backup your back up onto a second drive?
I viewed and followed your instruction on your video of how to move
photos to an external hard drive. I only moved 3 folders with 3
pictures in each as a test to make sure I was doing it correctly and it
worked.
What caused this problem to occur? The next morning the folders that I
created on the external hard drive was not appearing above my current
drive. I navigated to the my new drive thru Lightroom and the folders and photos were there. I was unable to view the photos thru lightroom but I was able to drag them back on to my main drive lightroom.
What did I do incorrectly?
Berlin
Thank you for a VERY clear and concise tutorial! Question: I have 8k photos in LR and growing fast and only 256 GB of HD space internally. Do you suggest having catalogue and photos located externally? Also if, as you have it, the catalogue is internal by photo library is external won't this have a hard time finding those photos to match? thx!
You can store your catalog and photos on an external drive (large capacity as possible) and then devise a separate backup system for that external disk. This will conserve the space on your local (internal) drive which is better suited for applications and of course which you can't generally increase (if it's solid state)
It sounds a bit confusing and copious work but excellent and eyes opening!
Great video, but beware of using RAID as "back up". The problem with mirroring drives is that if you delete something accidentally, it's automatically also deleted from the other drive. It's not really a back up.
Ok, I have a complex question regarding back-ups. Here is how I work with my images and what I want to be backup. I download the images from the memory to the hard drive, I import them into LR and then edit them. When I exit LR, I do backup the catalog. I then go back into LR at a later time and finish my editing, once I'm satisfied with my edits, I export them to a .jpg file for web or a print. I also export my edited images as "original". When my computer's hard drive starts to get full, I back up my photos to an external drive. After doing this, I usually go back into LR and remove the imported files (since they are no longer on the computer's hard drive) and catalogs from LR.
Now, here is my question, if I want to re-edit the photos at a later date, how do I backup the image so that I can re-import it into LR for additional editing while still retaining the edits that I have done in the past?
How do you create a dynamic backup of your lightroom library? I.e. I want to import my raw files as dng on my computer and build smart preview, then send the original dng files to an external hdd but in a way that let's me work on smart previews on my laptop and get the metadata synced with the dng files, and idealy, if I delete a smart preview from my lightroom library, it deletes the dng file from all locations. How do you that? I tried exporting my dng files via lightroom to an eHDD but that's no good, I tried exporting as a catalog, doesn't update the metadata like I would want it to
where are my keywords? are they and their images included in the .lrcat file? when i restore will they be listed in lr again if i have to restore. with their images. what about preferences and the rest on your screen?
Thank you again. Could Adobe not afford to heat the studio?
Julieanne, thanks for the backup discussion. Could you please clarify how to "drag and drop" to backup the Lightroom folder (the one from the Library folder with preset data, etc.) to the Creative Cloud? It doesn't seem like you can drag and drop a folder using either the CC interface on the computer or via the web. Thanks!
this sync of the presets should be integrated in LR directly. This workflow is a shame^^
do all these external drives have to be hooked up all the time to do backups automatically? Or do you just use that image she drew to animate the workflow? For instance you work on a set of new photographs, wen you are done I'm assuming you back them up to external hard rive, than copy to 2nd copy of external hard rive, is she having her computer do this automatically?
The elephant in the room is that along with the Catalog files themselves, LR stores hundreds/thousands of large prerendered images which help LR work faster when browsing Catalogs.
So what? Well, these images don't actually need to be backed up as they are recreated as needed when the images in the Catalog are browsed in LR (though this does of course incur a performance hit the first time for each image) and these images make backups of the Catalog folders significantly slower and larger in size than they really need to be (depending on various factors).
Alas LR offers no way to store them anywhere else (e.g. a scratch disk/folder like Photoshop) so if you don't want to back them up they need to be manually excluded from within your backup software, which is quite tedious to set up if you have multiple Catalog files as I do - I start a new one every year.
This has always been an issue with LR and continues to remain unaddressed by the dev team... perhaps Julieanne will be kind enough to champion this internally so that LR users can make backups more quickly (and therefore probably more frequently & securely) while saving backup space/media/electricity/etc.
and there is no simple possibility to sort out old previews...
www.lightroomfanatic.com/tutorials/behind-the-scenes/deleting-11-previews-lightroom-doesnt-reduce-preview-file-size/
When I download backups there are no keywords. Is there any way that they can be stored as well as the photos or must you reassign them after backing them up to a new computer.
Why should I avoid storing catalogs on a network drive (e.g. my NAS)?
Great tutorial ! Thanks ! One question; If I add photos in a folder that I have already worked with, LR will not show them next time I open it. Why and how to solve it ? Please !!!
Thanks for posting Thomas. I have the same quesstion
Did you add those photos within LR?
I have two drives on the computer I built. a 500 GB sad [main drive ] and a 1tb wd drive. I want to load lightroom but I don't want it on my sad because it will add all the photos on that drive and its only 500 GB. I want it on the 2nd drive that's 1 TB.onless I can have all my work go to drive 2?
Why do I get so many catalogs and should I back up all of these regularly??
Backup backup backup backup backup backup film dose not need backup is real is with you on your hand
I would rather have you backed up too ^_^
I Just Backed up my HARD Drive by Using Macrium Reflect and It's FREE.
When my OS screwed up. I just Restore it by using that software....
zzzzz Damn PC Viruses
Uuuh sounds amazing....can anybody come do what she said for me? 🤷🏼♂️ I forgot what she said already
One word people: cryptolocker. Think about it 😉
What a nightmare! Someone should create a computer program that could automatically go though the steps up of backing up your photographs and the changes you’ve made to them. Maybe a file management program that would automate the process. It’s not really a darkroom so you could call it brightroom or something like that. Probably wishful thinking, makes too much sense.
god I miss negatives:( I thought technology was suppose to be easier.
Oh yeah? How many backups of your negatives did you have?
this video is too long, I was only looking for a quick, under 5 minute on How To Force a Back Up of My Catalogue.
Thank you again. Could Adobe not afford to heat the studio?