The Mystery Mecha of Sonic Adventure (featuring

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
  • I've always been curious about the strange Sonic robot found in Sonic Adventure, so has my guest, chaomix! Today we're going to dive in to everything we know, and then go further into speculation than any normal person would dare to venture!
    UPDATE: Godzilla fans figured it out - • Mecha Sonic Mystery SO...
    Be sure to check out chaomix's channel here:
    / @chaomix
    Also check out Kennie!
    / @kennieadventure
    If you want to help support me, feel free to jump on my patreon:
    patreon.com/gameapologist
    Twitter:
    gameapologist
    Come hang out in our Discord:
    / discord
  • Hry

Komentáře • 747

  • @GameApologist
    @GameApologist  Před 3 lety +568

    Thank you Jason, and all you other keen eyed Godzilla fans. This is what I get for only focusing on 1998 Zilla.
    This is indeed a Mecha Godzilla reference.
    ...Strangely great timing, right??
    Quick update here:
    czcams.com/video/uT_Zd-VlGt8/video.html

    • @silverbullet1620
      @silverbullet1620 Před 3 lety +7

      Why doesn't Robotnik have Sonic bots to test his ultimate weapons?

    • @neaosmt1562
      @neaosmt1562 Před 3 lety +4

      Can you talk about Shard the Metal Sonic

    • @modelomegatyler
      @modelomegatyler Před 3 lety +5

      @@silverbullet1620 because none of them can match sonic's ever evolving, chaotic, hedgehog power.

    • @loganfirelord1954
      @loganfirelord1954 Před 3 lety +4

      I thought he looked like the 1974-1975 mechagodzilla.

    • @youdontknowme3577
      @youdontknowme3577 Před 3 lety +3

      No one discusses how metal Sonic in the tube looks different from the one we get as an unlockable. He even FLY in Amy’s flashback during her first cutscene

  • @jasonjimerson7046
    @jasonjimerson7046 Před 3 lety +1224

    Actually, looking at him closely, his design reminds me of another famous mecha... Mechagodzilla.

    • @GameApologist
      @GameApologist  Před 3 lety +350

      ...Dude that is a very good point.

    • @GameApologist
      @GameApologist  Před 3 lety +389

      Man can I shout you out in a CZcams short? It has some EXACT copies from Mecha Godzilla.
      Good god dude I made a whole video and you just figured it all out in one eyefull.

    • @mediamuncher6982
      @mediamuncher6982 Před 3 lety +96

      @@GameApologist hi nick I love all your videos even your non sonic content! Also I hope your doing good and your wife.

    • @MellowMarsh85
      @MellowMarsh85 Před 3 lety +22

      Damn it,I was about to say where chest but still.That’s true

    • @jasonjimerson7046
      @jasonjimerson7046 Před 3 lety +83

      @@GameApologist Absolutely! And thanks!

  • @chaomix
    @chaomix Před 3 lety +448

    So happy I was able to do this collab, such a dream come true! Hope everyone enjoyed! 💙

    • @littlestudioplanet7568
      @littlestudioplanet7568 Před 3 lety +15

      Yeah! It was a pleasant surprise seeing you here! I'm down for more surprise crossovers :)

    • @CrossbowGaming74
      @CrossbowGaming74 Před 3 lety +7

      Yeah you did a great job on this one. Congrats. :)

    • @darkusagi791
      @darkusagi791 Před 3 lety +5

      I enjoyed it, and a lot! You did a great job there and it certainly made me laugh. :D

    • @Temzy
      @Temzy Před 3 lety +7

      I'm proud of you my guy!

    • @sonicmaiden2871
      @sonicmaiden2871 Před 3 lety +2

      2 of my favorite sonic channels finally did a collaboration! This is a dream come true! 😏

  • @AnimatedZorox
    @AnimatedZorox Před 3 lety +392

    Ngl Imagine a game based on Metal sonic as the protag, and having this guy as a boss fight shooting missiles, eye lasers and metal lassos while flying

    • @knaveytchannel1048
      @knaveytchannel1048 Před 3 lety +13

      I mean...Metal Sonic Hyperdrive will probably do you the favor

    • @syweb2
      @syweb2 Před 3 lety +7

      @@knaveytchannel1048 Metal Sonic Hyperdrive? What's that?

    • @stg4theglitchog768
      @stg4theglitchog768 Před 3 lety +2

      I would name this mysterious Robot version of Sonic "Robo Sonic" and i would give him better feets so that he can run as fast as Sonic.

    • @BlueAmpharos
      @BlueAmpharos Před 3 lety +1

      @@stg4theglitchog768 It looks like his feet are designed to quickly zip across the stage like Silver and Mecha Sonic.

    • @stg4theglitchog768
      @stg4theglitchog768 Před 3 lety +1

      @@BlueAmpharos Yeah but i think he was made with a metal that could not be destroyied by Sonic.

  • @geraldgreg5370
    @geraldgreg5370 Před 3 lety +206

    I like to think of this character as a cut boss, and when they finally scrapped him they were like "Well we already have a model, so why not throw it in as a little cameo.". Or based off what you guys said, maybe he was gonna be the original villain of the game until they made Chaos, or at least a secondary villain. Maybe even an earlier design for Gamma, because all of that sounds much more interesting than just a prop.

    • @joemama8018
      @joemama8018 Před 3 lety +12

      He does have the wheels like gamma along with being able to shoot from his fingers so maybe

    • @geraldgreg5370
      @geraldgreg5370 Před 2 lety +10

      @@joemama8018 Even though he is just a reference to Mecha Godzilla I'm sure that he was supposed to be used in the game somewhere, other than some lab.

  • @Tzarina8472
    @Tzarina8472 Před 3 lety +158

    I wonder if this unnamed robot was actually meant to be Metal's sparring partner; a robot designed to emulate Sonic's speed, strength, and hand-to-hand combat abilities as closely as possible so as to test to see if other creations were ready for a confrontation with the real deal.

    • @bandband4498
      @bandband4498 Před 2 lety +15

      Metal is supposed to be better than Sonic.
      This guy is supposed to be an equal to Sonic.

    • @NiCoNiCoNiCola
      @NiCoNiCoNiCola Před rokem +3

      @@bandband4498 Metal is supposed to be FASTER than Sonic

    • @grigoriyivanov9742
      @grigoriyivanov9742 Před měsícem

      ​@@NiCoNiCoNiCola Doesn't "faster" mean "better"?

    • @NiCoNiCoNiCola
      @NiCoNiCoNiCola Před měsícem

      @@grigoriyivanov9742 nope, not at all. Metal, a flying thing can't manoeuvre as easily as Sonic, who uses his legs, torso, arms and etc to change directions and etc

    • @grigoriyivanov9742
      @grigoriyivanov9742 Před měsícem

      @@NiCoNiCoNiCola Fair point.

  • @misterzygarde6431
    @misterzygarde6431 Před 3 lety +142

    I do like how the fan game, Sonic 3D in 2D used the Adventure Robot as a boss.

    • @misterzygarde6431
      @misterzygarde6431 Před 3 lety +5

      @W Shiflet I made a typo. Personally I think Sonic 2D Flickies Island would’ve worked more

    • @saarj
      @saarj Před 3 lety +5

      That fan game was what created my head canon into calling the Silver Sonic from Sonic 2 8-bit “Silver Sonic MK-I”, the Silver Sonic from Sonic 2 16-bit “Silver Sonic MK-II”, and the Silver Sonic from Sonic Adventure “Silver Sonic MK-III”.

    • @Sanford_The_Grunt
      @Sanford_The_Grunt Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah, that's a great game

    • @Keithoboi
      @Keithoboi Před 2 lety

      WAIT THAT GAME WAS A F***KING FAN GAME!!!????

  • @Night-gw3oe
    @Night-gw3oe Před 3 lety +205

    I always had this idea when I first played SA1 way back, that these 2 would be saved for the sequel as the main villains.

    • @Schnort
      @Schnort Před 3 lety +18

      That could have been cool.

    • @tyrone2423
      @tyrone2423 Před 3 lety +8

      There's still time for sa3

    • @Schnort
      @Schnort Před 3 lety +8

      @@tyrone2423 I think we all might die first.

    • @KaiserMattTygore927
      @KaiserMattTygore927 Před 3 lety +7

      @@tyrone2423 we'd sooner see Half Life 3, StarCraft 3 and Planetside 3 all at the same time before that happens, sadly.

    • @tyrone2423
      @tyrone2423 Před 3 lety +2

      @@KaiserMattTygore927 Stop the cap
      I have hope for sa3
      But personally I'm hoping for Sonic Heroes 2.
      Don't add me.

  • @M_Alexander
    @M_Alexander Před 3 lety +66

    "The wheels on his feet as well as the thrusters on his ankles" which is exactly why I just assumed he's the Sonic 2 not and probably a prototype

    • @jeremyabbott4537
      @jeremyabbott4537 Před 3 lety +8

      Mecha Sonic from Sonic 3 also has the same jets and wheels.

    • @Mechasonicrocks
      @Mechasonicrocks Před 3 lety +13

      @@jeremyabbott4537 But the Sonic 3&K Mecha Sonic was:
      1. blue
      2.much taller
      3. had red eyes

    • @jeremyabbott4537
      @jeremyabbott4537 Před 3 lety +7

      @@Mechasonicrocks and Silver Sonic was like a whole foot taller than Sonic too, with red dot eyes. Also this robot Sonic in SA isn't blue, he's black/grey. He isn't a match for any existing robot Sonic, and seems more of a re-imagining of both

    • @Mechasonicrocks
      @Mechasonicrocks Před 3 lety +2

      @@jeremyabbott4537 Agreed.

  • @frankiegamez4071
    @frankiegamez4071 Před 3 lety +54

    I get a huge Mechagodzilla vibe from this robot when you talked about the design of him and actually his body looks just like Mechagodzilla's.

  • @kingbash6466
    @kingbash6466 Před 3 lety +280

    Boys remember Mecha Sonic from Sonic Adventure.
    Men remember Mecha Sonic from Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
    Legends remembers Mecha Sonic from SMBZ.

    • @infinityheart_tm9270
      @infinityheart_tm9270 Před 3 lety +39

      **intensified metal cooler sounds**

    • @bagelgod946
      @bagelgod946 Před 3 lety +17

      That show is some of my earliest CZcams memory’s. So glad it’s getting a reboot!!!

    • @megamix5403
      @megamix5403 Před 3 lety +16

      >DBZ Fan
      >SMBZ Fan
      Coincidence? I think not!

    • @aidanhammans9337
      @aidanhammans9337 Před 3 lety +5

      He is only thought to be a god cause of Super Mario bros z, ADMIT IT

    • @peedfarded
      @peedfarded Před 3 lety +11

      "I'LL CRUSH YOU!"

  • @emilylefebvre646
    @emilylefebvre646 Před 3 lety +35

    If no one knows who designed it, there's a slim chance it's some cut model from Xtreme given it *is* lower poly than most SA models. On top of that SA1 is no stranger to reusing Saturn models and the Xtreme boss engine WAS extremely advanced for what it was

  • @AVGNROCKS1996
    @AVGNROCKS1996 Před 3 lety +41

    I think the chest of the robot looking like MechaGodzilla is a cool detail.

  • @ShadtheHedgehog4321
    @ShadtheHedgehog4321 Před 3 lety +24

    I like how silver sonic mk.II resembles the Showa MechaGodzilla. I love it when one thing I like references another thing I like.

  • @BlackTheBerserker
    @BlackTheBerserker Před 3 lety +52

    In a lot of ways, in the archie comics I think he was a victim of trying to adapt the stories of a different universe into another where they weren't enitrely compatable. It just feels like they tried to force station square into the comics due to obligation when previously the comic continuity was established in a way where it was hard to justify in a fully satisfying way.

    • @backwardsbandit8094
      @backwardsbandit8094 Před 2 lety +2

      I'm just incredibly glad that Archie sonic isnt canon because that shit was terrible for most of its existence. Most of it's original designs looked like furry deviantart OCs and the plotlines were so stupidly bonkers it was like reading riverdale

    • @BlackTheBerserker
      @BlackTheBerserker Před 2 lety +5

      @@backwardsbandit8094 you see you say that, but I haven't enjoyed this series nearly as much ever since the Archie Comics were canceled. The games stopped caring about story telling so long ago the archie series was the only thing I had to look forward to narratively. You see I'm glad the Archie Comics aren't canon to the games, but for a very different reason. For me it's because never wanted them to be tainted by how fast and loose Sega treats the game continuity. Now that the comics follow the game continuity more so I've lost interest. At this point I'm convinced Shadow doesn't even have a canon backstory anymore.

    • @Odrikah
      @Odrikah Před 2 lety +2

      @@BlackTheBerserker I think you'll be glad then that it's been confirmed that some of the writers of the current comics, that carried over from Archie, have been tasked with writing the story for the next modern sonic game! They have to work with certain constraints in the new comics, but they do such a good job within them that I feel that the new comics, despite having so much working against them, immensely improve the story of the games for me, at least. It's not perfect, but it's some pretty quality stuff imo and shouldn't be written off entirely.

  • @bigladmatt6769
    @bigladmatt6769 Před 3 lety +85

    Can we just call Silver Sonic II "Gregg"

  • @Help_Im_On_Fire
    @Help_Im_On_Fire Před 3 lety +27

    *Hovering in a tube. Menacingly.*

  • @Legoluigi26
    @Legoluigi26 Před 3 lety +41

    I hearby accept that Sonicman origin story as headcanon.

  • @trash_lol
    @trash_lol Před 3 lety +52

    “1 hour” that’s a funny way of saying an hour and 20 minutes
    fr i was waiting for this

  • @red5158077
    @red5158077 Před 3 lety +14

    Considering in Sonic CD during the race with Metal Sonic when you win his face plate gets smashed into the wall when crossing the finish line. So maybe the reason Metal is in the tube to be repaired and the other one would be sent out to battle Sonic until Metal is fully repaired and upgraded as we see on Sonic Heroes

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 Před 3 lety +6

    0:20 I hate to be that guy, but Eggman actually didn’t make “Cyber-Sonic.” He was created by a group of sentient androids with DNA samples from sonic the hedgehog himself. (It’s a long story.)

  • @purple5823
    @purple5823 Před 3 lety +16

    I like to imagine an "Episode Metal" to Sonic Adventure as an epilogue to the main game in which Metal Sonic fought against this robot to see who is the definitive sonic mech, Metal or Mecha.

  • @thazkid
    @thazkid Před 3 lety +38

    Huh. I'm starting to think that this character isn't Chris from Sonic X... But I could be wrong.

  • @SlightlyCreative
    @SlightlyCreative Před 3 lety +19

    I would absolutely love for the IDW comics to use this guy at some point. He'd be perfect for an arc.

  • @ppleakage2785
    @ppleakage2785 Před 3 lety +36

    If Robotnik truly is smart he would’ve released the mecha

  • @BlueAmpharos
    @BlueAmpharos Před 3 lety +10

    The design of Mecha Sonic in Sonic 3 and Knuckles has a really narrow visor that looks impractical, like he wouldn't be able to see anything slightly above him that he isn't directly looking at, such as, say, a hedgehog that is spinning at a 75 degree angle through the air. That brow protrudes outwards more than the other Sonic robots and would definitely narrow his vertical field of view, unless he had extra sensors in his ears or something.

  • @goldenlightning8842
    @goldenlightning8842 Před 3 lety +32

    So glad to see Chaomix popping off so hard that he's able to team up with the great Game Apologist himself I adore both of your channels and the content u guys make
    I feel like every comment I make on this channel is talking more about the content creator himself and not the actual video sorry about that I just love spreading my appreciation for these videos

  • @wakeangel2001
    @wakeangel2001 Před 3 lety +26

    I was disappointed this version of mecha Sonic never got to be a boss or something in the games, but he does have a cool legacy in the comic. In that canon Robotnik created the Death Egg Silver Sonic by reverse engineering and upgrading Sonic's robotocized form, then mk 2 here was an upgrade of that, and later on we'd get one more upgrade with mk3 who was basically a Sonic shaped TANK, never letting us forget the greatness of issue 39, which some still insist was the best issue of the series run.

  • @sputnikmann6541
    @sputnikmann6541 Před 3 lety +5

    I always just assumed that this was just... Mecha Sonic. The one guarding the Death Egg in Sonic 2 on the Genesis/Mega Drive. All the design principles are there, gray/silver outer shell, bulky armor, wheelie greaves for feet, bulky fingers.
    It just seemed to be an updated arstyle; like how Amy, Metal and Sonic were portrayed in their "Adventure" era designs when Amy was flashing back to the events of Sonic CD.

    • @didiercollard
      @didiercollard Před 3 lety

      Yeah, it just looks like an updated design. Might've been a scrapped boss, since they definitely put some effort into it. But I look at the two, and I'm like, "Yup, same robot."

  • @MarkOfAHero
    @MarkOfAHero Před 3 lety +6

    Glad you guys took a look into this robot, always wondered about him!

  • @sonicnov1850
    @sonicnov1850 Před 3 lety +6

    I don’t really mind that this robot exists but it didn’t have much of a purpose AT ALL and is just something the sega made to put as a Easter egg that would really never been used again

  • @Solesteam
    @Solesteam Před 3 lety +9

    That robot looks like he would be the doppelganger boss of a game staring Metal Sonic.

  • @auger0073
    @auger0073 Před 3 lety +7

    You also see him in Amy’s first cutscene. He’s chasing her when she talks about how bored she is.

  • @triceratroytv2292
    @triceratroytv2292 Před 3 lety +11

    You forgot to mention the fact that his design is straight-up showa mechagodzilla in sonic form. Lol.

    • @NativS2002
      @NativS2002 Před 3 lety

      He did mention the Dragonzord

  • @shedjr_
    @shedjr_ Před 3 lety +7

    If they do a remake of Sonic Adventure, I'd want a post-game story with Silver-Sonic-II, along the lines of what archie did, but not-so "archie-esc."

  • @kut8517
    @kut8517 Před rokem +2

    I like how there's a variety of robot sonics which is kinda cool
    And he kinda looks like furnace

  • @TheMagnumDon
    @TheMagnumDon Před 3 lety +5

    i honestly knew him as Silver Sonic MK.II from that one image of all the mechanical sonics listed off but i forgot what it was.

    • @KyubiMaster100
      @KyubiMaster100 Před 3 lety

      Sonic Paradox website I assume.

    • @TheMagnumDon
      @TheMagnumDon Před 3 lety

      @@KyubiMaster100 i'd imagine it was from Sonic Paradox but i never been to the website. found it off of google images like around 2013-2016

  • @NovaBat92
    @NovaBat92 Před 3 lety +4

    I like the idea of this being a Silver Sonic Mk 2, it shares a fair amount of elements with him. An old experiment abandoned in favor of a more speed focused redesign leading to Mecha and later Metal. Something Eggy kept around in case he ever wanted to return to the more tanky concept which he kinda does with the E-series.

  • @kajitatsu2677
    @kajitatsu2677 Před 3 lety +5

    He was also in the Archie adaptation of Sonic adventure they called him"Silver Sonic 2"

  • @cybersonic8472
    @cybersonic8472 Před 3 lety +8

    So Izuka was asked about him and he said hes Modern Silver Sonic

  • @pandaatech4879
    @pandaatech4879 Před 3 lety +20

    I think Eggman combined this and Metal Sonic to make Neo Metal Sonic

    • @calebano8325
      @calebano8325 Před 3 lety +6

      Metal Sonic was the one to create Neo Metal Sonic, at least in the game canon

    • @pandaatech4879
      @pandaatech4879 Před 3 lety +1

      @@calebano8325 Oh my bad i didnt know heroes is the only game I havent played

    • @calebano8325
      @calebano8325 Před 3 lety +1

      @@pandaatech4879 definitely recommend it, it's unique in it's own way

    • @pandaatech4879
      @pandaatech4879 Před 3 lety

      @@calebano8325 Can i play ir on xbox one

    • @calebano8325
      @calebano8325 Před 3 lety

      @@pandaatech4879 I don't believe that one is playable on newer hardware unfortunately

  • @BBWahoo
    @BBWahoo Před 3 lety +5

    This still has more substance than a matpat video

  • @Tulf42
    @Tulf42 Před 3 lety +1

    I think an honourable mention should go to The Wax, from Sonic Paradox, who is one of, if not, the only fans to have used Silver Sonic II outside of game canon in his animations: Dark Chaos 1 and 2.

  • @tylerherr4288
    @tylerherr4288 Před 3 lety +1

    honestly i think he was made to clear up any confusion over the silver > mecha > metal
    and for that they would of needed a model
    and mecha didnt have a 3d reference yet so they made their own

  • @BakaCertified
    @BakaCertified Před 3 lety +1

    This robot Sonic was just as impactful with me playing Sonic Adventure new as a kid, so much in fact, that some years later I attempted to make a 3D fan game using the model.
    I was too inexperience & the tools I had were to archaic, but I definitely went with the tank-like shooter vibe he gave off as well.

  • @thespookymage6294
    @thespookymage6294 Před 3 lety +3

    Two of my favorite sonic youtube channels coming together. Perfect!

  • @eddiecho2829
    @eddiecho2829 Před 3 lety +14

    2 videos in a week? YESSIR!!!!

  • @thermitefe8299
    @thermitefe8299 Před 3 lety +3

    I'm enjoying this vid so far, but I'm wondering why chaomix sounds like he's only coming in through my right ear...? You sound even on both sides, so I don't think it's my headphones

  • @justagundam
    @justagundam Před 3 lety +1

    It took me too long to notice that Mech Sonic 2 here heavily resembles 70's Mechagodzilla.

  • @TheSoldierBCS
    @TheSoldierBCS Před 2 lety +1

    That's the robot that appears on Amy's story on Sonic Adventure, when she remembers Sonic saving her

  • @CinderLitten
    @CinderLitten Před 3 lety +1

    Great video guys! Ever since I first REALLY noticed this in the metal knuckles video, I was wondering what this guy could be about.

  • @cloroxbleach371
    @cloroxbleach371 Před 3 lety +1

    Silver sonic being a terminator type of mech is genuis because he looks like the type to walk slowly and scan for his target.

  • @fantasykaijugeeks5452
    @fantasykaijugeeks5452 Před 2 lety +1

    I love Mecha doppelgängers of my favorite characters and monsters, and as a, Godzilla fan. I never saw the difference until I typed up sonic Godzilla crossover and this video pop up.

  • @mathuasher9184
    @mathuasher9184 Před 3 lety +1

    As a youngster I was always fascinated by this. But then I didn't think about it for many years. Now that youve reminded me of it Im eager to watch this, even if there's no conclusion by the end.

  • @darkblanc8350
    @darkblanc8350 Před 2 lety +1

    I would call this guy "Steel Sonic" cuz I feel like it just fits well

  • @thetruej7872
    @thetruej7872 Před 3 lety +3

    I was always fascinated by the unnamed Sonic robot. I'd love to see it in action in a Sonic game

  • @CDoss-bc7tv
    @CDoss-bc7tv Před 3 lety

    I was really hoping you'd mention Sonic Dark Chaos in this video, but I had also forgotten this robot showed up in the Archie comics, so I'm glad I was still able to learn something.

  • @MrSkysenGames
    @MrSkysenGames Před 2 lety

    I like to think of it as a sort of link between the Metal/Mecha Sonic line and the E-Series.
    Silver Sonic came about, was clunky, this was was a 2.0 version, then got split into the more refined Metal Sonic we all know and try to escape from and the more battle ready Eggs. What with the gun fingers and easier to churn out builds.

  • @schadenfruede0675
    @schadenfruede0675 Před rokem

    Wow the torso is an exact replica, even the black rubberish pieces for the suit to have better movement are there, and he even looks like he has finger missiles, a shame he never got to see action.

  • @Sovic91
    @Sovic91 Před 3 lety

    It's absolutely great to see you in a video together. You just work really well together.

  • @TheDragonfang134
    @TheDragonfang134 Před 3 lety

    Wheels on his feet, Gun Chambers for fingers, and looks like he was made more for combat then going fast.....
    This description fits Gamma. Could this have been the playable shooting character?

  • @TheRealDustinNunn
    @TheRealDustinNunn Před 3 lety +1

    Here is the list of robotic doppelganger versions of Sonic the Hedgehog:
    1. Mecha Sonic Mark 1 (8-Bit Sonic 2)
    2. Mecha Sonic Mark 2 (16-Bit Sonic 2)
    3. Metal Sonic (Sonic CD).
    4. Mecha Sonic Mark 3 (Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic 3 & Knuckles and Sonic 3 Complete).
    And 5. Unnamed Sonic Robot (Sonic Adventure 1 and Sonic Adventure DX: Director's Cut).

  • @MrGamer07100
    @MrGamer07100 Před 3 lety

    You’re videos are so good. A big channel covering the most obscurity at greater length? Like please educate me. I want an authentic redesign of this Mecha Sonic. It’s very fun to speculate the intention behind it’s design. Definitely intriguing to theorize.

  • @supersonicultra2
    @supersonicultra2 Před 3 lety

    Blessing us with two videos

  • @415-k1ub
    @415-k1ub Před 2 lety

    The mention of Gerald Robotnik in this video made me realize that Gerald is a real character in the Sonic franchise. I was first aware of Gerald's existence through a video of an AI Dungeon generated script called Sonic Destruction. I thought that Gerald is a character made up by the AI, like the mayor in the script.

  • @themidnightotaku22
    @themidnightotaku22 Před 3 lety +1

    I have some pretty good thoughts on this version of Metal Sonic also. If you look closely at the features you can identify that this robot was created to match the skills of each playable character in the game:
    Rockets on the shoes for flying & speeding up. (Tails & Sonic)
    Rocket barrel knuckles for punching & firing missiles. (Knuckles & Gamma)
    Awkward metallic feet that close in for extra jump height. (Amy)
    And launchable wrists to grab things with from a distance. (Big... well... still not sure about this one)

  • @firstnamelastname-oy7es

    Every time mecha sonic picks his nose, he must be sweating bullets worrying if one of his gun fingers are going to go off.

  • @moisesmoraes1696
    @moisesmoraes1696 Před 3 lety +1

    I believe that the canon name of silver sonic from sonic 2 is actually robo sonic, at least that's what he is called in sonic's level on Lego dimensions.
    I know that Lego dimensions can hardly be called canonical but I'm pretty sure it is the only time he's name was stated at all in a game as far as I know.

  • @kimberlybogert7031
    @kimberlybogert7031 Před 3 lety

    Glad to found this channel again:3

  • @Karanthaneos
    @Karanthaneos Před 3 lety

    Great video as always. I'll wait for next year video on Shard.

    • @shardsoftime0952
      @shardsoftime0952 Před 3 lety +1

      Me too 😂,he deserves beter (but i belive game apologist does not like him)

  • @RealmsCrossMyths
    @RealmsCrossMyths Před 3 lety

    This series has me wondering… what if Sega made a Sonic franchise game - not a Sonic game, as it wouldn't have sonic or the usual meat cast - where the opening is one of Eggman's 'doppelgänger' robots (works best if it's a new one) is trying to secure a location for Eggman, and someone asks why they are doing this, giving the robot pause. Best explained by learning A.I. or a bug in the Code, the robot concludes that they benifit more by being on the side of the many, rather than the side of Eggman. You then play as this robot and like pretty much every Sonic game, your goal is to defeat bosses-in this game, it happens to be every other 'doppelgänger' robot that has canonically appeared in the Sonic franchise games. If you beat them, you 'knock some sense' into them and they join your cause.
    So obscure robots like Metal Knuckles and this guy would show up not just as enemies, but part of the playable roster.
    Metal Sonic could still show up to fight sonic, as he was programmed for that specific reason, and is a recurring villain. He and sonic would still fight in future games, but now only because sonic enters MetaSoni's territory and not because MetaSoni is hunting for him.
    And perhaps instead of to the death, it could be a form of bravado, to show the machine is superior to the hedghog.
    It'll probably never happen…
    … but what if it did?

  • @HydraBread
    @HydraBread Před rokem

    I think Eggman stopped his robot Sonic line as soon as he discovered Gerald’s work on Shadow. Biological creatures could reach greater heights than robots, which is why he started looking into ancient legends and otherworldly creatures from there on out.

  • @MagillanicaLouM
    @MagillanicaLouM Před 3 lety +2

    Ah Chaomix. Literally found out about him like 3 days ago, neato coincidence. Oh and I just got done playing some Adventure, and was in this room with Amy lol

  • @diamondcuttersscout
    @diamondcuttersscout Před 8 měsíci

    In regards to the order in which Eggman made his robotic Sonic duplicates, if you take into consideration the theory that Metal Sonic is a roboticized Sonic from Sonic CD's bad future, it's possible the "worse" Mecha Sonics are an attempt to emulate Metal Sonic, hence why they come after in the timeline. This explains why this Mecha is in a tube just like Metal's; The two robots are being compared in some way, most likely. This also would explain why Eggman hasn't made another Metal Sonic- he tried, and failed. It also would explain why Metal believes he is the real Sonic- he is.

  • @warioskapelli3100
    @warioskapelli3100 Před 3 lety

    0:22 oh shit I actually REALLY like that robot version of Sonic. I wish they had incorporated some of those design elements, like the neckguard and the white forearms, instead of the plain, lanky Metal Sonic we did get.

  • @Bofrab
    @Bofrab Před 2 lety

    I do like how in Archie when Shadow shows up to steal the emerald, Silver Sonic MK 2 is still protecting Station Square.

  • @ratte6090
    @ratte6090 Před rokem

    He looks like an unholy fusion of Shard and Showa MG, and I hate that I love it.

  • @fluffcake
    @fluffcake Před 2 lety +1

    Mysterious Mecha Sonic was really bizarre to me, I liked his design but I didn't know where he came from so I just thought that he was gonna be an unlockable later on. To my surprise after watching some Showa Godzilla films I realized that he was actually just a reference to Mechagodzilla.

  • @toddbukauskas8804
    @toddbukauskas8804 Před 2 lety

    This character was first introduced to me as a robotisized Grandpa/Uncle to Sonic
    In the Genesis game for sonic 2 the player seems to be lured into a vacuum in space (with no rings) by this and without the chaos emeralds it's a real catch 22.

  • @HateSonneillon
    @HateSonneillon Před 3 lety +1

    I used to think it was the mecha sonic from Sonic 2 but seems not. Looking at its design now I think it could have been another body for E-101 Beta rather than the MarkII design. It kinda seems similar with the 2 gun hands and that would have been a crazy twist.

  • @ballislife2835
    @ballislife2835 Před 2 lety

    I think of it like this. Eggman never stopped upgrading Meca Sonic/Silver Sonic. Leading to Mecha, then this one which I'll call Neo Mecha Sonic. So this version is the complete antithesis of Metal. Capable of Close range combat and able to do battle with Knuckles(thus the thrusters and spines) using data from Metal and his failures to fight sonic, its likely that he had Metal and Neo Mecha in that room together to whittle sonic down. Sending Metal to tire him enough for Neo to come in and completely overpower him. That would explain why he has ranged weaponry, allowing him to either keep sonic out of range or increase attack range for Mecha sonic which it previously didn't have without the Master Emeralds power. The thruster are to deal with Knuckles if he shows up, so he can put him down quick or go blow for blow with him if needed, also explaining its tanky frame. The visor would be for scanning and looking for sonic if he managed to keep ahead of him like he said, and the body would also be for housing items and utilizing the emeralds power.(chaos control probably, considering eggman has data from shadow and sonics fight.) I would say the legs aren't for travel speed persay but more for quick bursts of speed like Robo/Meca Sonic or quick dodges to avoid unnecessary damage. But thats just my take. I'm a mecha fan and love nerding out over mechs or just robots in general. Giant or otherwise. I love hearing about the history of robots and mechs on this channel if ya find more then please upload em when ya can! Also. The visor would make sense. Robots like the MS-04 "Zaku" up to the MSN-06 "Zeong" have only one eye but have been blind sided by attacks from behind due to poor field of vision. Since Neo Mecha is so small outfitting cameras like they did to fix the problem with the Zaku would make it into a simple Recon unit and effectively make it useless. So it makes sense he would go for a visor, as the RGM-78 "GM" had this feature and allowed it to see more of its surroundings during fights. Ranged scanning makes sense as he's a blue speedy rat.

  • @Crow_Rising
    @Crow_Rising Před 3 lety

    I generally place CD as being before Sonic 2, with Metal and Silver Sonic's having been made in parallel. My headcanon on this is that Silver Sonic was more of a failure than Metal Sonic, focusing on power over speed, which Sonic was able to counter. Metal Sonic came much closer to doing Sonic in, with the race between them at Stardust Speedway being very clench at the end between them. This prompted Eggman to experiment further. With Metal Sonic still stranded on Little Planet, Eggman would have to wait for it's return to reclaim him. In the meanwhile, he worked on an upgrade for Silver Sonic, remodeling him into the much more powerful and deadly Mecha Sonic. Sonic then proceeded to handily defeat Mecha, followed by Knuckles defeating it despite it's ability to turn Super.
    All this prompted Eggman to choose Metal as his favorite. It's not that he's the most recent to be made, it's that his design was the most successful at rivaling Sonic and friends, still being incredibly powerful, just less so, but having the speed to make up for it. Metal Sonic might not hit as hard as Silver Sonic or Mecha Sonic normally, but his speed means he can hit more often, doing more overall damage, and he can as needed trade off his speed for more power. This makes him the most strategically viable, and so Eggman likely concluded that it wasn't worth pursuing the other line anymore and just continued to upgrade Metal Sonic directly.

  • @michaelcarlton1484
    @michaelcarlton1484 Před 3 lety +2

    Maybe the reason why he never reappeared is because he became part of Neo Metal Sonic?

    • @robonaught
      @robonaught Před 3 lety

      But Neo Metal Sonic is just a more powerful form of regular Metal Sonic as shown turning back into Metal Sonic after being defeated in Heroes. Metal became Neo under a completely different unknown way as it's never explained how he obtained that form

    • @michaelcarlton1484
      @michaelcarlton1484 Před 3 lety +1

      @@robonaught I meant that since Neo Metal has the ability tobabsorb data and get stronger, like a gizoid, that perhaps he absorbed the Mecha Sonics, Silver Sonic, and any other "inferior beings".

  • @teeble_
    @teeble_ Před 3 lety +2

    the funny thing is i just started watching chaomix and he became on of my favourite youtubers.

  • @snocthehead6809
    @snocthehead6809 Před 3 lety +7

    I always wondered about this guy

  • @DaynNight1234
    @DaynNight1234 Před 3 lety +1

    Coming from the Chaomix discord and all I have to say is that I did not see this collab coming.

  • @neptune9647
    @neptune9647 Před 3 lety +2

    He's always been my favorite design.

  • @thomassijbom6210
    @thomassijbom6210 Před rokem

    He kinda looks like a counter to shadow. Atleast that's the first thought I had when looking at him. Maybe his chest compartment is to hold a chaos emerald to do a chaos control

  • @BazztheBazz
    @BazztheBazz Před 3 lety

    Never realized it till now, but the texture on this mecha's torso is nearly identical to Mecha-Godzilla-- the flap thing in the center of his chest is a dead giveaway (Mecha-Godzilla has one that houses a laser gun). The finger guns are almost certainly a direct reference to MG as well, since he famously has missile launchers in his fingers.

    • @GameApologist
      @GameApologist  Před 3 lety +3

      Someone else just pointed it out. I can't believe I missed that. I'm making a CZcams short as we speak.

  • @GrouchyRaccoon
    @GrouchyRaccoon Před 2 lety

    I never actually considered that it wasn't just the Sonic 2 version, I always figured it was just a nice little easter egg. But yeah comparing the two like this, it's obviously so much more than that. I wonder if they originally had more plans for the design.

  • @bowserjrsoutsidestory7125

    That humpty dumpty joke and where is the better mecha sonic joke killed me
    this is why i love game apoligist

  • @tastethepainbow
    @tastethepainbow Před 6 měsíci

    I'm so glad that Winter Jam acknowledged his existance

  • @TailsFan92
    @TailsFan92 Před 3 lety

    I love it when two of my favorite Sonic CZcamsrs collaborate! :D

  • @wolfyplayz123_
    @wolfyplayz123_ Před 2 lety

    I personally think he was a salvage of Silver and Mecha Sonic, with similarities to body proportions and such, it just feels like a salvage of both.

  • @wisecrack3461
    @wisecrack3461 Před rokem

    I kinda picture them treating fights with sonic as chess, utilizing their processing speed and ranged capabilities to out speed sonic in combat due to sonic being a melee fighter. Metal Sonic was an attempt to improve on sonic, this feels like an attempt to *counter* sonic. Picture a fight in your head where sonic goes to rush him down and dodge his attacks but utilizing his 10 guns, he simply picks out the 10 most likely moves for sonic to make, including thinking far ahead into the encounter and makes the optimal shots to win him the fight. He has frail points but his efficient demeanor means that should sonic get close he'd use what is effectively optimized martial arts to defend himself and find an opening to regain momentum. I can imagine him being perfectly willing to retreat and using optimal strategy to follow whatever order set is embedded within him.

  • @Imadeyoumad288
    @Imadeyoumad288 Před 2 lety

    What I do wanna know is why the metal Sonic in the tube look more detailed than the unlockable Sonic skin we get in game. The way he looks in Amy’s flashback is the same as the tube but not in actual gameplay

  • @festro1000
    @festro1000 Před 3 lety

    He looks like he could be a shelfed beta design of S3&K Mecha Sonic(who was my favorite design) as many of the aspects from Silver Sonic such as bulk, and older wheel based movement, where you can see his design path heading to a more sleek version like S3&K Mecha Sonic.

  • @SmashProX
    @SmashProX Před 3 lety

    Just for future reference, maybe to make it easier, you should call the Sonic 2 16-bit robot Robo Sonic, from the LEGO game. It may be the only time he's named differently, but it's better then sharing names.

  • @Just_Daze
    @Just_Daze Před 3 lety +1

    A video with chaomix? Awesome!

  • @Grencye2
    @Grencye2 Před 3 lety

    I said in your last video that this was Silver Sonic because of the eyes... What the hell was wrong with my memory of OG Silver Sonic...? Thanks for this video, Nick!