Forgot to mention I'm feeding my subs with an XS power 6 cell bank. Your video helped me tremendously with the safety aspect and torque specs! Appreciate you again
This is a great example of what others should do for comparison. Thank you for being thorough and honest about these it helps with making the best decision on which one to run.
Last comment I promise....I agree with making th over hang wider...because the first thing that came to my mind was...wow...gonna have to mount that with screws and bolts & use STRONG 💪 wood...GREAT POINT!
That’s amps a gem forsure I Would definitely get one given the chance but i would say that sundowns Salt series amps are very efficient also they came along way they do rated rms power all day even in lower volts like 12.4 does rated all day n plus if u got good electrical your getting plus some but again everything good come at a cost .
Man your absolutely right about expanding the lip of the basket , just makes to much sense I guess ,and also can I get a speaker like the one you have???😳man!!! Now that’s a SPEAKER!! First time watcher ,like the video👍
For bang for the buck the SKAR stuff is hard to beat, yes there are lots of better speakers out there but when you compare in price range they shine. Im running a SKAR EVL-15 and SKAR 1500.1 as a downsize from old dual 12 box and very happy for a sub $500 setup
That's what I've been saying but everyone loves to say "oh this sub is better than skar" but don't say anything about it costing double. I got 2 12" zvx v2 they pound. Had 2 15" vxfs they sounded awesome to. So I'm a huge skar fan. I had an orion xtr2500.1dz hooked to each of those 15s they didn't have a problem at all.
@@imthirstyh2o330 only Sundowns "Z" series are made in USA. All others are assembled in china. If "made in USA" makes car audio high quality, i dont have it. I have to use Korean amps 😢
I run Sundown in my truck, but nothing like that beast! Run a Rythmik G25HP for home theater SPL. Dual opposing 15" direct-servo driven subs in the same sealed enclosure setting in the corner behind my sectional. It'll clear the pictures off the walls during a big action scene for sure.
Thats been my issue for cars and trucks especially .The boxes and speakers become a hazard especiallly at highways speed or off road ..In a home stereo the speaker stays put and doesnt bounce around .In DJ equipment and concert equipment the same issue occures because the speakers are transported and bounced around and droppoed the issue becomes apparent .The wood will fail because the screws pull through and the speaker loosens up .The heaver the driver the worse it gets .Horns can get banged up as well .Especailly when you see the length from the front to the magnet at the back .Its just like a leaver .MDF and HDF are great speaker box materials but not very strong and dont like mositure ! 29:25
I just bought the SKAR zvx 2 15" and thier armored spl box. It's powered by my RockfordFosgate T1500 1bdcp I wanted to make sure it had enough power. It's amazing. It's in my subaru imprezza and I used to have 2 15" RF P3s in separate boxes. I may go back to them because the sound quality was better. The skar is louder I think... but I noticed right away it doesn't like to hit the highs around 40+ hz may be my sub sonic tuning though. My P3s played every note loudly and made a ton of bass. So I think I'll get a dual 15 box and do 1ohm. They rms at 1200 and the amp does 1700+ at 13.9
Pretty cool comparison, but the Sundown also costs $600 more than the Skar. I'm not a Skar lover just saying lol. Do you think the Skar is worth the $350 ish it sales for? And outstanding point made on the mounting flange portion of the basket, why the heck is it not bigger?
I've been a bass head since the 90s skar is good stuff I run 4 10s in my f250 people shit when I turn it up totally hidden with cab amplifiers 5 years no problems
Oh yeah and that's what I kept saying in the video is that we can't really compare these two one is a completely over the top and saying woofer versus a very good mid-run speaker you know
Just so it's clear the skar is $300 bucks the sundown is what $1,000? So should be made better? It's over 3x the price of the skar. So if I got 3 of the skar too one Sundown what's going to do better?
Sundown can handle double rms all day long. I've been running two sundown 12's on double rms rating for 2 years now. They stunk at first but that went away after a week or so.
HOLY SH+T THAT COIL IS ALMOST AS BIG AS THE CONE! MY GOODNESS....I thought i was the SH+T with my Punch Power HX2 and Punch Power 1500 BD1 back in the days..that is child's play compared to this....SH+T has changed....I need to catch up.
Not sure. 700.00 for the sundown or 320.00 for the SKAR. If money was no object and I could buy any sub, id just get the Orion HCCA splx 12" sub. Granted its not as big as that custom sub, its only 168lbs, and is only good for 30,000 watt burps or 7500 rms. But, its pretty economical. Almost free even.
My Last System was Three Alpine Type R 10" Subs with Three seperate 1000w Kenwood Amplifiers in my 1996 Honda Civic 4 Door with 9 Switches & 3 wheel motion. Air Cylinders. I could spell those coils if I turned those 3 amps up all the way.... thay was my first car that NEVER HAD a rattle...not even one.
You don’t turn amps up, they don’t have a volume adjustment. And no, gain is not a volume adjustment. Setting that too high causes the amp to clip which will kill speakers. Your head unit has a max volume before it clips as well and you need to know what that is and never exceed it. No wonder you could smell them.
You get what you pay for. Compare sundown and skar in the same price range. The ZVX-12 and the SA v.2 series are in the same price range at the current time. Opposed to the almost 3x price difference in the zv.6
Man we ended up taking that whole sub apart. Then building a completely different one the new ones got 990 oz moter on it.. Megalodon 2.0 I've still got to do a CZcams video on it.. Soon.
The Megalodon speaker is think 8kw the sundown. Is 5kw max and the skair is like 1.5 or 3 kw. Please refer to their web pages for the appropriate power levels
TRUTHFULLY if you watch barvids you know the amplifier repair dude from England? He did a video not to long ago, where he compared this exact jbl crown and vs a taramps i think 8k. Well he made a very clever switching device that allows him to switch from one amp to the other uninterrupted and he test it on himself as well as other random people and guess what?? Nobody could tell the difference from one so called hi fidelity jbl amp and one so called crappy Brazilian amp. Thats how far we have come in the sound department. Not to mention the taramps bass 8k put out nearly twice the power that big heavy crown amplifier put out and did it with 1/16 the price. You dont believe me go watch it on CZcams put in taramps vs jbl crown.
I think the zvx and vxf are good subs from Skar for the money. Sundown is overpriced for what you are getting imho. If I wanted to spend big money I would go with dc audio.
Other than letters and numbers in the name and model these are not comparable at all. One is $300 bucks and the other is almost a grand. What if you grouped 3 skars vs the sundown which is about the same cost. The come area would rule this. Love the videos though.
The zvx compares with the u-series or v.2 that's it the zv6 is a 800 dollar speaker for a reason but the u and v.2 is slightly better than skar but they the same size so you are comparing way diff speakers
I do not care! Nothing! Nothing! Nothing! Looks as bad ass as a crown a6000gti. 20 years later and no one can top this amp on looks alone. And at 25kw pep power! Only a u and full of amps can run with the old girl! But damn she has a fine ass! Everything else is an overpriced stick of aluminum. Classless tastes less, homely..... in comparison to this. Just saying.
Sorry dude,that jbl amps so outdated. Trust me ,I k kw of many that'll pound that amp to shitty little pieces, nice amp yes,superior to all f no,your on heavy meds bro!! But nice setup tho man love it
It would cost too much in money to remake the baskets. Separate subs for regular buyers versus spl guys. Most days in the spl world the idea is to get the subs as close as possible in the same area. The further apart you spread them the more things change and over all the less amount of cone mass you can fit in one area.
Damn that's one big son of a bitch in the other videos you really didn't get the concept of the size of it but seeing it in the back of your bourbon it's almost the one to be a bench seat hey by the way if you see this comment and you read it what's the difference between a 3. 5. Z and a 5868 I think it was they look at identical. I'm going to finish watching this video I just started watching it have a good evening Boston strangle waving
I do like bass in my car But i like SUB bass HiFi 20 to 20.000Hz .. shittty car Sterio go 60 to16.000 Blaupunkt 20 20.000 even 12.5Hz I use 2 X FOSTEX 12" in transmission line For deep smooth powerful bass in my car Huge Sony bass only amp best bass amp JBL in the rest / Bose
And i will add do not mock your savor!! That shit is not going to go unnoticed. Wait till your in front of him trying to explain your reasoning why you mocked him. You'll see.
The Sundown basket was designed and patented by Jacob. The Skar basket is a Chinese knockoff, that is tweaked slightly to avoid infringement on Jacobs design. However, the Skar gear will get the job done if you don't want to spend a ton on other more expensive brands.
@@KyrieEleisonMaranatha not many people know about the yard sale. I've bought some U-10's through the yard sale. I really couldn't find anything wrong with them.
@@shushdeeni1068 I've bought several subs from there never anything wrong with them. Nothing more than cosmetic defects, to much glue, off center dust cap, etc.
@@shushdeeni1068 also you can find they are sometimes the subs they use in displays and what not. Dealer returns and minor defects mechanically if any. Some of that information is for the motors and baskets you used to be able to buy. Now they don't sell the motors and baskets.
It’s an X not a Z. You have to be fair. Go look at other comparisons on the ZVX vs X. If you want to be able continue informing us PLEASE PLEASE do your homework and bring us proper information
This guy dont know what hes talking about. Motor size isnt everything. Also theres different grades of ferrite, and motor structure. a small motor can have more force than a big motor. Also the zvx has a 10” spider just like a z series or x. Also the zvx has pretty much the same motor as the sundow xv1. Still sundowns better, but this guy is full of it bet he hasnt ever reconed or built a custom woofer.
@@johndough4338 I have no experience with any skar sub, but I have heard from a lot of people that they are the best bang for the dollar. I've owned a few different lines of sundown subs and while they are impressive they are overpriced.
I have a custom Jason Jones built 12 that weighs 126.6 lb that's big enough for me. Lol and it's currently not even in my truck I'm running the sun down in my truck at the moment cuz it has the ability to play musical notes above 60 HZ 😉
This video is such bs. You're comparing a $300 speaker to a $1000 speaker. I guarantee you compare skar $300 speaker to sundown $300 speaker the skar would crush it. Most people cant afford to spend $1000 on a 12in sub. Now why dont you compare 3 skar to 1 sundown and see who wins
Bong hits are better for ya, especially if you are older. All that crap that collects in the bong water is going straight into your lungs using pipes, joints, blunts etc. Think long term. lol Id buy EMF subs before I bought Skar. The logo is way cooler if nothing else.
Mag size isnt jack grab you a gauss meter and measure mag strength ive seen many mags over 4 inch centers on 2.5 coils wich we never knowunless removing top plate more spiders arentmuch indication of capability or response also more spiders equal higher fs and larger vas soooooo um its very dependant also frequency played to develop rms peaks deffinatly matter so its a tic for tac arguement what is super obvious is ya can afford 2 if not three skars for one sundown. Oh boy man the more windings that stay in the gap the higher the bl factor again not meaning a whole lot the glue binding coil wire and weather a coil is wet wound or not also means a fkn ton along with layers and when ya wanna get real serious would you prefer a bifilar coil standard winding sooooo um
Round tinsel vs smashed flat again means nothing try the sundown at a grand vs an hcca at 700 its game over. If any builder can claim 152db from a single 18 with 1700rms real time term lab ill admit that i dont know shit.....oh did i mention that is at 17hz lmfao all sundown anything only dreams or lies of being near that capable.
X or z max well z max must be some new term there is linear x max and mechanical x max wtfff is z max lmao. Also a cerwin vega stroker killed other subs in output n seriously has grossly small x max. Check out over hung vs underhung coil n motor types the loud speaker cookbook should be mandatory knowledge for any opinion or manufacturer claims to even be spoke upon.....
Forgot to mention I'm feeding my subs with an XS power 6 cell bank. Your video helped me tremendously with the safety aspect and torque specs! Appreciate you again
this is by far the best comparison video i have seen keep it up man
This is a great example of what others should do for comparison. Thank you for being thorough and honest about these it helps with making the best decision on which one to run.
Awesome video... I love the cb stuff didn't know you had a sub addiction... sundown is hard to beat these days..
Completely agree the sub flanges are way to small these days for 100lbs motor structures
You obviously don't know how strong a cast basket is.
@@BenaresDarkness it's more about how strong the enclosure is...
@@DaneH64 50-50
Youre too nice@@BenaresDarkness
Last comment I promise....I agree with making th over hang wider...because the first thing that came to my mind was...wow...gonna have to mount that with screws and bolts & use STRONG 💪 wood...GREAT POINT!
That’s amps a gem forsure I Would definitely get one given the chance but i would say that sundowns Salt series amps are very efficient also they came along way they do rated rms power all day even in lower volts like 12.4 does rated all day n plus if u got good electrical your getting plus some but again everything good come at a cost .
Man your absolutely right about expanding the lip of the basket , just makes to much sense I guess ,and also can I get a speaker like the one you have???😳man!!! Now that’s a SPEAKER!! First time watcher ,like the video👍
For bang for the buck the SKAR stuff is hard to beat, yes there are lots of better speakers out there but when you compare in price range they shine. Im running a SKAR EVL-15 and SKAR 1500.1 as a downsize from old dual 12 box and very happy for a sub $500 setup
That's what I've been saying but everyone loves to say "oh this sub is better than skar" but don't say anything about it costing double. I got 2 12" zvx v2 they pound. Had 2 15" vxfs they sounded awesome to. So I'm a huge skar fan. I had an orion xtr2500.1dz hooked to each of those 15s they didn't have a problem at all.
100% and that’s because price to build is a lot less for skar since they’re all made in China. Sundown is USA so it’s more
@@imthirstyh2o330 only Sundowns "Z" series are made in USA. All others are assembled in china. If "made in USA" makes car audio high quality, i dont have it. I have to use Korean amps 😢
@@Hammerback972 No half of the U series are made here in the US as well.
This dude is comparing apples to oranges. I could only watch 3 minutes of this crap.
I run Sundown in my truck, but nothing like that beast! Run a Rythmik G25HP for home theater SPL. Dual opposing 15" direct-servo driven subs in the same sealed enclosure setting in the corner behind my sectional. It'll clear the pictures off the walls during a big action scene for sure.
For a little system it sure is a beast. Nice setup
Little system? Just look at what amp he has😭
I would love to see you review the ct sound meso series
Making the OD bigger just for mounting hardware is great. But now a 12" is on a 15" frame size.
Go to do what you got to do. Or buy small motor subs. You have to sacrifice something.
Finally someone who has the sense of what the...... when it come to mounting the SUBS as Well as the amps can we get out of the 80"s Well done SIR!!!!
Loved the video
Thats been my issue for cars and trucks especially .The boxes and speakers become a hazard especiallly at highways speed or off road ..In a home stereo the speaker stays put and doesnt bounce around .In DJ equipment and concert equipment the same issue occures because the speakers are transported and bounced around and droppoed the issue becomes apparent .The wood will fail because the screws pull through and the speaker loosens up .The heaver the driver the worse it gets .Horns can get banged up as well .Especailly when you see the length from the front to the magnet at the back .Its just like a leaver .MDF and HDF are great speaker box materials but not very strong and dont like mositure ! 29:25
I just bought the SKAR zvx 2 15" and thier armored spl box. It's powered by my RockfordFosgate T1500 1bdcp
I wanted to make sure it had enough power. It's amazing. It's in my subaru imprezza and I used to have 2 15" RF P3s in separate boxes. I may go back to them because the sound quality was better. The skar is louder I think... but I noticed right away it doesn't like to hit the highs around 40+ hz may be my sub sonic tuning though. My P3s played every note loudly and made a ton of bass. So I think I'll get a dual 15 box and do 1ohm. They rms at 1200 and the amp does 1700+ at 13.9
sundown x v2 would be a better comparison to the skar vzx2, cool ideas for sure
Pretty cool comparison, but the Sundown also costs $600 more than the Skar. I'm not a Skar lover just saying lol. Do you think the Skar is worth the $350 ish it sales for? And outstanding point made on the mounting flange portion of the basket, why the heck is it not bigger?
Just ordered 2 ZV6 15’s from the Sundown Yard Sale for $570 each. Couldn’t pass up on that deal.
How'd they turn out thinking bout pull the xv312 from there yard sale
Enjoy all your videos BBi..I could really use an amplifier from you someday. It's been a dream of mine
isnt this the same voice coil as the zvx 15?
I've been a bass head since the 90s skar is good stuff I run 4 10s in my f250 people shit when I turn it up totally hidden with cab amplifiers 5 years no problems
Oh yeah and that's what I kept saying in the video is that we can't really compare these two one is a completely over the top and saying woofer versus a very good mid-run speaker you know
Great info Mr BBI.
Just so it's clear the skar is $300 bucks the sundown is what $1,000? So should be made better? It's over 3x the price of the skar. So if I got 3 of the skar too one Sundown what's going to do better?
You should compare the zv6 to a hcca spl since we’re doing apples to oranges
Once upon a time..
This is a good story start..!!!
When a 25watt RMS and a 105 db senestevety
Culd out play any 68db 5000watt loud speaker
Yeah right🤣🤣
Not how that works 😬
Ill let you sit in my car with 2 sundowns on just 3500 watts of korean silky smooth signal and let you decide whether old school is better or not.
That has got to be the craziest way I've ever heard someone spell "sensitivity"
@@ddtstrc9678 oooh i just like when life is full of flat earthers who cant do math
Swear I saw your plate.. 3yrs around post falls Idaho.. but was in a little yellow? Car
Thanks Luke, Bass and MHz go together ❤️💗💓
Way too much silver showing😁 Seriously, beautiful install, hope you enjoy it. 73s
Man I bet that Sundown is mean! I do miss my old Phoenix Gold Cyclone. It always had the cool factor but damn it doesn’t compare to that.
But ….. did you get another hernia ?
Great info...
Sundown can handle double rms all day long. I've been running two sundown 12's on double rms rating for 2 years now. They stunk at first but that went away after a week or so.
I got a sundown xv3 15 I got a salt 4K to power it at 1ohm been running it double the rms for 5-6 months and it’s taking it with no issues 🔥🔥🔥
@@allaboutbass8146 Yep, as long as you give them clean, unclipped power. They can take more than double. Clipping is what kills a voice coil.
Facts!
That's why Im having headaches
I enjoy both hobbies. I have sundown SA V2 in my car and a Dak on my desk lol.
Box seems little small for that zv6
got 4k on each of my zvx's right now, they can handle more than rated power for sure
HOLY SH+T THAT COIL IS ALMOST AS BIG AS THE CONE! MY GOODNESS....I thought i was the SH+T with my Punch Power HX2 and Punch Power 1500 BD1 back in the days..that is child's play compared to this....SH+T has changed....I need to catch up.
Hey that Power HX2 actually had a 4in voice coil...just too small of a motor
If I have to spend my money it's going to be subwoofers for competition DD fi psi sundown and down the line? That's just me
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The zv6 kinda just looks like a upscaled vxf
Not sure. 700.00 for the sundown or 320.00 for the SKAR. If money was no object and I could buy any sub, id just get the Orion HCCA splx 12" sub. Granted its not as big as that custom sub, its only 168lbs, and is only good for 30,000 watt burps or 7500 rms. But, its pretty economical. Almost free even.
love my zv6"s !!!!!
🤯🤯🤯
Go check out Parker the basehead he did a comparison on v.2 and zvx, great video!
My Last System was Three Alpine Type R 10" Subs with Three seperate 1000w Kenwood Amplifiers in my 1996 Honda Civic 4 Door with 9 Switches & 3 wheel motion. Air Cylinders.
I could spell those coils if I turned those 3 amps up all the way.... thay was my first car that NEVER HAD a rattle...not even one.
You don’t turn amps up, they don’t have a volume adjustment. And no, gain is not a volume adjustment. Setting that too high causes the amp to clip which will kill speakers. Your head unit has a max volume before it clips as well and you need to know what that is and never exceed it. No wonder you could smell them.
You get what you pay for. Compare sundown and skar in the same price range. The ZVX-12 and the SA v.2 series are in the same price range at the current time. Opposed to the almost 3x price difference in the zv.6
Also did you do real time testing? Wondering the results of each is. Just because something looks better doesn’t always mean it is better.
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What motor is that custom sub built with!?!?!?😮
Man we ended up taking that whole sub apart. Then building a completely different one the new ones got 990 oz moter on it.. Megalodon 2.0 I've still got to do a CZcams video on it.. Soon.
@@BoxBuilderIdaholet’s do it!
I have a jbl 6000 needs repair
Give me a call I'll do what I can to help you out
I love the amp what a behemoth bad mofos❤
I'll send you my deaf bonce 4515 to do a comparison with the zv6
Are you in the CB radio as well
What's the power rating on that 12 that you have
The Megalodon speaker is think 8kw the sundown. Is 5kw max and the skair is like 1.5 or 3 kw. Please refer to their web pages for the appropriate power levels
@Mr BBI sundown doesnt have max wattage rating on anything they sell
Got a zvx12 in a box and a 1500 watt Skar marine amp for $250😭 what a steal
Got vxf 15 1 month used in a sdr box. The deals on fb marketplace is crazy
There’s a new big dog in town emf makes a 12 that’s over 150 pounds !!
I love ur comment 1.5 lip overhang
TRUTHFULLY if you watch barvids you know the amplifier repair dude from England? He did a video not to long ago, where he compared this exact jbl crown and vs a taramps i think 8k. Well he made a very clever switching device that allows him to switch from one amp to the other uninterrupted and he test it on himself as well as other random people and guess what?? Nobody could tell the difference from one so called hi fidelity jbl amp and one so called crappy Brazilian amp. Thats how far we have come in the sound department. Not to mention the taramps bass 8k put out nearly twice the power that big heavy crown amplifier put out and did it with 1/16 the price. You dont believe me go watch it on CZcams put in taramps vs jbl crown.
Skar should had done better with the dnr and need to make the vxf in a 18
That scar is more comparable to the sundown x v1
I think the zvx and vxf are good subs from Skar for the money. Sundown is overpriced for what you are getting imho. If I wanted to spend big money I would go with dc audio.
Other than letters and numbers in the name and model these are not comparable at all. One is $300 bucks and the other is almost a grand. What if you grouped 3 skars vs the sundown which is about the same cost. The come area would rule this. Love the videos though.
your mannerisms remind me of the guy who tested amps. Gem or bust think that was his channel on here
The zvx compares with the u-series or v.2 that's it the zv6 is a 800 dollar speaker for a reason but the u and v.2 is slightly better than skar but they the same size so you are comparing way diff speakers
Hard to compare the Zv6 to the Skar. Soo much motor difference. Not an apples to apples comparison
Wait until he finds out about the magnet on an HCCA 12
My current 12 has a 990 Oz motor.. the hcca does not hold a candle to it! 😉
@@BoxBuilderIdaho you wanna help me design the next part of the system for my built V? I'm working on the shopping now.
I say who cares what who has and what everyone thinks about it. If your happy keep bassin.
Not using the same wood as in the 90s
You can't compare a a zv6 to a zvx the zv6 blows that zvx out the water 💯💯💯
Yes sir
Imagine how much more shit you can haul if you get a full bridge amp
I do not care! Nothing! Nothing! Nothing! Looks as bad ass as a crown a6000gti. 20 years later and no one can top this amp on looks alone. And at 25kw pep power! Only a u and full of amps can run with the old girl! But damn she has a fine ass! Everything else is an overpriced stick of aluminum. Classless tastes less, homely..... in comparison to this. Just saying.
Sorry dude,that jbl amps so outdated. Trust me ,I k kw of many that'll pound that amp to shitty little pieces, nice amp yes,superior to all f no,your on heavy meds bro!! But nice setup tho man love it
My deaf bonce 4515 would eat the zv6 for lunch and still keep beating with out a problem
So would the Avatars from Deaf bonce or the American bass Xmaxx
We never said the zv6 is the biggest sub bud
@@AudioEuphoria080 I've never even heard sundown except for the lcs series which I thought they were the SAs
Bad comparison. Do the zv6 vs dc level 6, or xt4
No Cokes or Coke products.. ♠W.G.
It would cost too much in money to remake the baskets. Separate subs for regular buyers versus spl guys. Most days in the spl world the idea is to get the subs as close as possible in the same area. The further apart you spread them the more things change and over all the less amount of cone mass you can fit in one area.
Damn that's one big son of a bitch in the other videos you really didn't get the concept of the size of it but seeing it in the back of your bourbon it's almost the one to be a bench seat hey by the way if you see this comment and you read it what's the difference between a 3. 5. Z and a 5868 I think it was they look at identical. I'm going to finish watching this video I just started watching it have a good evening Boston strangle waving
I do like bass in my car
But i like SUB bass HiFi
20 to 20.000Hz .. shittty car
Sterio go 60 to16.000
Blaupunkt 20 20.000 even 12.5Hz
I use 2 X FOSTEX 12" in transmission line
For deep smooth powerful bass in my car
Huge Sony bass only amp best bass amp
JBL in the rest / Bose
LOL... Literally LOL
@@ShainAndrews ikr 😆😆😆
I get the point, what I don’t understand is why we have to pay 1200 dollars for a stupid subwoofer 🤮
If you think its just a Stupid subwoofer why are you wasting your time watching a video about it
@@kylemalone8953 that’s the point ,I watch videos so I won’t get ripped off , u follow me ?
And i will add do not mock your savor!! That shit is not going to go unnoticed. Wait till your in front of him trying to explain your reasoning why you mocked him. You'll see.
The Sundown basket was designed and patented by Jacob. The Skar basket is a Chinese knockoff, that is tweaked slightly to avoid infringement on Jacobs design. However, the Skar gear will get the job done if you don't want to spend a ton on other more expensive brands.
Or you could always buy sundown from sundownyardsale and get everything about half off. 😆
@@KyrieEleisonMaranatha not many people know about the yard sale. I've bought some U-10's through the yard sale. I really couldn't find anything wrong with them.
@@shushdeeni1068 I've bought several subs from there never anything wrong with them. Nothing more than cosmetic defects, to much glue, off center dust cap, etc.
@@shushdeeni1068 also you can find they are sometimes the subs they use in displays and what not. Dealer returns and minor defects mechanically if any. Some of that information is for the motors and baskets you used to be able to buy. Now they don't sell the motors and baskets.
Or American bass or even Deaf bonce is a better deal
It’s an X not a Z. You have to be fair. Go look at other comparisons on the ZVX vs X. If you want to be able continue informing us PLEASE PLEASE do your homework and bring us proper information
Skar fan boy got upset?
That's not no joke I'm not t
rying see....
What that hell is a skar vzx
Meh
The zv6 is like 2500rms ain't it lol
This guy dont know what hes talking about. Motor size isnt everything. Also theres different grades of ferrite, and motor structure. a small motor can have more force than a big motor. Also the zvx has a 10” spider just like a z series or x. Also the zvx has pretty much the same motor as the sundow xv1. Still sundowns better, but this guy is full of it bet he hasnt ever reconed or built a custom woofer.
Why are you comparing a zvx to a zv6? A zvx should be compared to the sa not the zv6.
Actually the sundown x series would be an even comparison to the skar zvx.
@@allthingsaudio4610 the x series is twice the cost of the zvx so why would you compare those two? The sa and zvx are almost the same price.
@@Cardoso71875... the zvx are just as good as the sound down x, but for a better price. The zvx is hands down the best sub for the money.
@@johndough4338 I have no experience with any skar sub, but I have heard from a lot of people that they are the best bang for the dollar.
I've owned a few different lines of sundown subs and while they are impressive they are overpriced.
@John Dough zvx doesnt come close to the x series....
Fellow ho from Ida.
Team em audio makes I think the biggest 12. It weighs 155 pounds
I have a custom Jason Jones built 12 that weighs 126.6 lb that's big enough for me. Lol and it's currently not even in my truck I'm running the sun down in my truck at the moment cuz it has the ability to play musical notes above 60 HZ 😉
This the same motor EM uses.
If im not mistaken the Sundown weighs 90 lb
This video is such bs. You're comparing a $300 speaker to a $1000 speaker. I guarantee you compare skar $300 speaker to sundown $300 speaker the skar would crush it. Most people cant afford to spend $1000 on a 12in sub. Now why dont you compare 3 skar to 1 sundown and see who wins
Not true I play mine to the max
Team Down4Sound.
Why are you using wood screws? That tells me everything I need to know. 😂😂😂 Always use machine screws and an anchor.
Look again my speakers aren't held in with wood screws they're held in with reverse mounted hardware and bolts....
Sundown is hands down better than Skar in absolutely every category
Zv6 $1000. Zvx $350 don’t make a video again.
Zmax is impedance. Do really have any clue as to what you’re talking about
Bong hits are better for ya, especially if you are older. All that crap that collects in the bong water is going straight into your lungs using pipes, joints, blunts etc.
Think long term. lol
Id buy EMF subs before I bought Skar. The logo is way cooler if nothing else.
Damn JSS is the SHIT I still have 1 of the original 400 series 12
Mag size isnt jack grab you a gauss meter and measure mag strength ive seen many mags over 4 inch centers on 2.5 coils wich we never knowunless removing top plate more spiders arentmuch indication of capability or response also more spiders equal higher fs and larger vas soooooo um its very dependant also frequency played to develop rms peaks deffinatly matter so its a tic for tac arguement what is super obvious is ya can afford 2 if not three skars for one sundown. Oh boy man the more windings that stay in the gap the higher the bl factor again not meaning a whole lot the glue binding coil wire and weather a coil is wet wound or not also means a fkn ton along with layers and when ya wanna get real serious would you prefer a bifilar coil standard winding sooooo um
Round tinsel vs smashed flat again means nothing try the sundown at a grand vs an hcca at 700 its game over. If any builder can claim 152db from a single 18 with 1700rms real time term lab ill admit that i dont know shit.....oh did i mention that is at 17hz lmfao all sundown anything only dreams or lies of being near that capable.
X or z max well z max must be some new term there is linear x max and mechanical x max wtfff is z max lmao. Also a cerwin vega stroker killed other subs in output n seriously has grossly small x max. Check out over hung vs underhung coil n motor types the loud speaker cookbook should be mandatory knowledge for any opinion or manufacturer claims to even be spoke upon.....
Come on ones thrice the fkn bread smh