Mount Everest : Into the Death Zone - the fifth estate
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- It was May 19, 2012 and a young and determined Canadian was proudly standing on top of the world after an agonizingly slow climb up Mount Everest. Shriya Shah-Klorfine had reached the summit. But in the hours that followed, things would go dreadfully wrong and she would perish, like hundreds before her, high up in Everest's "Death Zone."
Since Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay's first ascent of Everest almost 60 years ago, it has been an irresistible fascination for aspiring mountaineers. Hundreds make the attempt every year, and many don't make it. This year was no exception as hundreds made their way to the summit even as worrying signs pointed to trouble. Among them was Shriya Shah-Klorfine, the cheerful and energetic Torontonian. She had never climbed a mountain before, and despite warnings from her friends, husband, and seasoned Everest sherpas, she was climbing the world's highest peak, determined to succeed.
In this 2012 documentary, Bob McKeown travels to Nepal and pieces together what happened with exclusive never-before-seen video of Shah-Klorfine's final hours on Everest. the fifth estate uncovers startling information about her deadly climb into the icy oxygen-thin expanse of Everest known as the Death Zone.
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So let me get this straight -
A woman who was quite unfit, never went climbing before, and who wasn't prepared AT ALL died due to arrogance/stupidity, and then people tried to blame the Sherpas?
Brilliant.
She was with a company that never guided one to the top and then the owner abandoned her for his own summit bid. Terrible customer service.
@@2DSTORMS Dude... That is not how that works. If they would have tried to move her and stayed up there any longer waiting for her themselves, they too would have died after running short on oxygen.
I have been at extreme altitude myself, and after a certain altitude it becomes difficult to even muster enough strength to carry your own body forward without running out of breath. Carrying or forcing another person to come with you would be nearly impossible.
They tried to convince her to come, she refused to continue and keep pace, so they left her. The one Sherpa who did try to help her nearly died with her.
There was nothing they could have done. It's not like you can just carry someone up Everest. With such low oxygen levels, trying to move a person would take the same amount of effort as pulling a truck up hill by yourself.
That is why there are still ao many bodies up there.
How can she blame when she's........ Dead 😂
@@AtemiRaven No use in explaining an idiot like @2DSTORMS
I'm shocked. After scaling Mt. Anthill in rural Ontario and regularly accessing the finest sports nutrition at the All You Can Eat Curry Buffet Pagoda, what could go wrong?
If the sherpas tell you to go back then DAMMIT you go back!!!
YES
GOOD IDEA
true
Yes because they are the most experienced ones on that mountain, they have climbed it back n forth many times, they know what has to be done to survive but everyone’s ego will get the best of them sooner or later. What else can they do if someone refuses to listen to them, there should be some kind of rule or law that they could have the power to physically make the person go back down when told even if they have to knock them out and drag them back down, I don’t know what else to say, I know I sound stupid by saying what I said but i just hate seeing people die up there. Some kind of way they just need to change their rules and laws to save people from dying.
The last thing you wanna do at that altidude is to have physical conflict lol. @@cfavalorofavaloro6053
PrimeLeaver yes prime leaver I understand what you’re saying, I know what I said wasn’t really the right solution it’s I’m just so hurt by seeing so many people die up there, i just wish that there was some sort of solution to prevent it that’s all.
Narrator: "Whatever she lacked in experience, she more than made up in swagger."
Um, no, she did not make up that lack of experience. She DIED, and her swagger did not save her.
LOL, seriously. I heard that line and was like, 'uhhhh, what..." Swagger isn't going to get you to the summit of Mt. Everest...
Her swagger was not exaggerated enough.
nonoonono it was clearly the fault of the guide, not her fault! She had determination! You know until the moment when she had no energy anymore and died but clearly anyone else's fault but hers.
@@m4sherman926 the exaggerated swagger of a dumb inexperienced climber risking sherpas' lives...
This*
Honestly surprised how much of a positive aura surrounds her story. She is literally the prime example of why Everest is the way it is.
Yeah she had absolutely no business being there and endangered many others in her pursuit.
She's absolutely the prime example of FAFO too
Also explains why there is 300 dead bodies on the mountain….she deserved the Darwin Award.
@Rebecky31
It’s gone up to 300?
I thought it was 200 bodies remaining and about 100 bodies recovered..
She had the aura of stubbornness.
"She didn't like to walk." Perfect, sign her up.
To be honest she would've made it if it wasn't crowded and they had backup oxygen tanks, too crowded and unprepared for a novice.
Lamar Sanders crowding is definitely a problem.
J W ...right... Great plan..
😂😂😂
Lamar Sanders I doubt that.
I'm confused by the generally positive tone of this piece. She had absolute zero climbing experience, and attempted one of the most difficult and dangerous climbs on earth. There's nothing positive about it. It's simply a story of either bewildering stupidity, unbelievable hubris or both.
I also hate how theyre making the upmost hiking agency look like the bad guys here.
hayley s And a stupid trekking company.
LOL. Top marks for your candour. "Both" is what hits the nail on the head.
Look at the people around her, there's your answer.
M.r. Moon how so?
Bob is trying to convince us that this was the sherpas' fault. Bob forgot that in fact, that woman was an adult who was responsible for her own actions. He also seems to forget that this is a story of a one Canadian woman with dreams that drove her to death and not so much a story of a strength of a human spirit but human ignorance and stupidity.
And you're forgetting that sherpa owned company took 60 grand off an inexperienced climber.
@@darrenlamb5640 this is lesson for u, money can't buy everything. Not impossible things ( like carrying half dead body over death zone)
@@promilitia3312 can it not. Then I wonder why they dpnt it for free then.
@@darrenlamb5640 your comments are pretty ignorant. Idiot
@@darrenlamb5640 would you risk your life for free?
I gave her the benefit of doubt until I heard she spent an extra 30mins at the summit,knowing her oxygen was low...
What happened to taking a few pics and heading down immediately?
This lady was crazy🤦♀️
low oxygen makes you stupider, literally!
I am surprised she didn’t posted a story on Instagram while vlogging there.
@@pulakificationno signal
It was all about her. Self consciously she knew she was going to die. She was enjoying her last moments.
@@911Smaybe so
_"She never liked walking."_ *Hmmmm, sounds like a good person to climb Mt. Everest.*
Not!
XD XD XD
@@scottgames527 lol
😂😂😂
Bro I get winded hiking the mountain trails in California 😂. I’d die before I reached base camp.
Getting to the top of Everest is optional, getting down is mandatory.
No if you're a high-altitude mountain goat.
And Going there is not a requirement.
$80,000 and no refund? Is it really an option?
@@whatdidyousay1455 Goats can only go as far as base camp. That's why everyone carries their own gear to the summit.
@@JoJo-od5nf so are you saying you value your life or any life at 80k?......who cares she owned a business...probably could make that back in 2 years
Sherpas does majority of the hard work, putting their life in danger and setting up tents every 4 to 6 hours,carry oxygen cylinders,food ets. So the tourist climbers can tick one of their bucket list. In my opinion Sherpas are very brave. We have to give Sherpas lots of credit....
Really brings that quote "Every corpse on Mt. Everest was once a highly motivated person" into perspective.
Lol 😆. You'll die laughing
Most are successful and great in life, overflowing with confidence and determination, basically better humans than 90% of the earths population, it's just some are not physically fit and are not made up for it, but like some say it confidence is key to all opportunities and if you're not able to grab it then you'll regret it for the rest of your life,
I know we tend to idolize dead people, but I'm amazed at how people around her admired her and fed her ego. She never considered others during her narcissistic trip and even endangered their lives.
yep
I guess we all have different perspectives of this situation but from what I saw was how frustratingly stubborn she was
@@gooooblaster1800 Stubborn sounds about right, but narcissist sounds far more accurate. A stubborn person can still have the foresight to prepare properly for a dangerous excursion like this, but a narcissist will think they can accomplish anything with little effort while never truly recognizing their own limitations.
That poster though and to display it at base camp. Sniffs of more than stubborn.
Bob Loblaw OMG spot on! I've often blamed her actions personally for a lot of that entire fiasco! She's well aware of it too which is why to my knowledge she's only given a single softball interview and blamed others for accommodating her.
The closest I would go to Everest is the base camp. I know my limits.
Exactly..and at the base camp, if the night sky is clear and full of stars, it already will be the most beautiful thing you'll see..
SpudForceable getting to the base camp itself is an achievement. I was told that there are some smaller mountains ranges around Everest that gives you a full view of the summit.
wow i also taught like that It's unbelievable match😂😂
Even going to base camp is a achievement. There are people who died due to altitude sickness while their trek to base camp.
Me too.... I have asthma and being at base camp would probably mess me up.
The closest I will ever go to Mount Everest is on CZcams.
😭😭
I agree..
Same. My aunt actually worked as a doctor at Everest base camp many years ago...treated people with altitude sickness mostly.
I'm sporty, but I despise hiking when there are lots steep parts. My knees just don't handle it. Doesn't help that I'm very short and it's harder for me to climb up and down rocks etc
Technically you can go to it and touch the rock and go back to your home country
❤😂😂😂😂😂😂Well said
Why does the interview sound like they're trying to put the men on the spot? They told her, "if you stay you'll die" and she made that choice
There's no place for heroism, ego and arrogance in the mountain.
Then there would be no one on the mountain...
Cyrene the Cat lmao
What about on it
But there IS truth. Truth walks down and B.S. freezes
Sometimes it takes more courage and determination to turn around and live.
This comment deserves to be at the top.
Exactly. Some people are amazing and gifted and others are not. People shouldn't follow a dream for the sake of accomplishing it if it involves risking your own life for nothing.
yup, mr big boss is truly the boss as 2012 was one of the worst years in everest history. his clients should tip him more than 15%.
Blue Dreams
I think your missing the point of climbing mountains to begin with
@@cuauhtemocmorisco3493 I would rather die like her than dying on a bed when turned 80
The guy who abandoned his own summit to save others is the best person in there.
Hi
He stepped around the bodies of three climbers, but still kept up his summit attempt. He only abandoned his attempt when he realized that he would not succeed, he then went back to help.
If he knew his chances of success were good, he would have kept on going, stepping over more corpses along the way if need be.
I have no respect for that.
@@thed165 that's what I took from it
@@thed165that’s how it’s done up there.
Chances of seeing dying people and dead bodies is like 65% and you have to be selfish to complete the summit if the weather is good .
@@thed165Youre a 100 percent right. He eas not selfish though. Thats just how it is.
“Every corpse on Mt. Everest, was at one point a motivated person.” - some youtube guy
The sherpas simply didn't want to die. She almost killed the sherpas. What's so great about that?
💯% bang on the money. Selfish, egotistical, and now she's ruined her husband and family's life too. I'm not impressed, it's not bravery
No fault to the Sherpas at all but let’s call a spade a spade she was brave and determined a bit selfish maybe but brave non the less.
How many of us kill sports mad people kill our selves with motorbikes or 🎿 etc every year.
So who are we to cast the first stone.
@Tiffany Barr basically you can not do anything you put your mind to, your body has to do it too
Tiffany Barr Didnt god also give people mental disorders, learning disabilities, and mental handicaps?
Tony Rdr people who die doing very extreme motor bike sports are equally stupid and egoistical too. A hobby shouldn’t be suicidal , and if you have family and kids, you better not be that selfish.
Allot of these climbers are dieing because they refuse to turn back when it’s obvious they are in danger, risking their lives and their guides. No bravery here. It ego driving them.
"I paid money, my goal is to reach the summit. " no amount of money is worth dying over.
What about $1.000.000.000?
"it's useless to be richest guy of the graveyard"
Amen
it's just her arrogancy that killed her. I also do feel she is materialistic and she needed achievements to show how good she is
@@turbothrottletrouble4217 Agreed. So many people are like that ...
One thing I’ve noticed is that certain people love to find someone else to blame when in reality they were the one’s responsible. This is what happens when you try to take shortcuts and not listen to expert warning you. Being determined to do something but too lazy to figure out how to do it properly is a recipe for disaster.
Imagine if she lived to tell her tale. That would've been arrogance all over for the rest of her life.
True
That's why she attempted the climb. She achieved nothing in life up to that point and needed something to feed her narcissism.
Imagine doing this when your spouse has asked and or told you not to do it probably 1000 times. She had NO respect for his wishes. She must have been a horror show to live with, poor guy seems actually relieved she is dead. Narcissists are horrible to live with and she is a textbook narcissist.
i’d imagine she wore the ‘pants’
She would have been on the "motivational speaker" circuit, spouting the usual positivity drivel to the next generation of poor saps, and probably tried to grind a bit of a political career out of it. Which, was likely her original goal.
Following your dreams doesn't give you the right to risk other people's lives.
Hi fellow czennie.
Opp
@SCP Foundation Nice grammar.
It does if everyone else is willing as well. Deal with it.
And it doesn't mean you need to be stupid which she was
well, 80.000 bucks spent, seems to be the most expensive suicide so far, another Everest record
smokers would like a word
@@ocupado658 hehe, feels good to know i stopt smoking 6 month ago. i jused to vape for 2 month after it, but eventually i didnt need it anymore.
i will be honest i still smoke 1-2 joints a day. but before, i smoked the same amount of joints + 20-25 cigarettes. now i just have to stop the stupid weed and i can finally feel like a normal person again! idk why i wrote that under a everest video uff
@@daskonstrukt8392 Great job. Keep going and things will get even better. :)
Oh, and btw, the first comment in this thread was pretty funny ("most expensive suicide ever") lel.
Bit of a side note, but good on you with kicking the cigarettes. Keep it up your heart an lungs will thank you.
@@daskonstrukt8392 Das the weed brought u to post that comment,I post all kinds of of the wall stuff after smoking a double ender.ha ha
As a kid I thought these things would be so cool but as a sort of adult I now realize that this costs a lot and is really dangerous.
A sort of adult tells me youre a teenager... which believe me is still long way from being an adult
@@darrenlamb5640 "Sort of" adult... 😂😂😂
After watching 8 minutes of this I can see this women is nut case...lets continue watching.
Lmao
My cousin died on Mount Everest in 1994, it was his 5th attempt and each previous attempt he failed to summit. On his last attempt he summitted very late, he died on the way down. Even the most experienced mountaineers talk themselves into believing it's not gonna happen to them. I am 9 minutes into this and this woman's ignorance is palpable. If seasoned veterans die on Mount Everest, what made her think she was better.
Irene Rheinberger I watched a video of a professional mountaineer, and she said something along the lines of, "I had a gut feeling something was going to go wrong, so I made the climb back down."
It was about climbing Everest.
Green boots?
Irene Rheinberger i feel bad for ur cousin how did he die?
Exactly. I'm an avid hiker with much more experience then her. I at least know ice climbing/crampons etc... and I wouldnt do mt Everest unless i climbed for 4 more years...you always start small ..mt rainier, mt Denali....this is crazy and shes putting others at risk
No, Tsewang "green boots" Paljor died in 1996 on the north side.
This is just beyond crazy. A few local hikes, and she thought that would be enough practice in order to climb Everest, a mountain literally littered with dead bodies of those who had a great deal more experience than her. That's like me putting a lean cuisine in the microwave every day for a month, and then showing up at a 5 star restaurant and telling them "Guys, I'm ready to be your head chef, I have the experience!" Sigh.
Justine Seitzinger , LOL!OMG I shouldnt be laughing but that was hella funny, Yep there is a reason people don't surf beaches with heavy undertow as well.😁
Justine Seitzinger You would Blondie.
Um, what exactly does my hair have to do with my comment? Are you 12 years old, or just a moron?
Justine Seitzinger Her goal was unrealistic but she still didn't deserve to die, some of the comments are so cold hearted. I'm sure she had more courage in her left butt cheek than some people commenting here have in their entire body.
Jonathan Turbide Of course she didn't deserve to die, I didn't say that nor think that.
In the army we had a saying; ‘There’s a fine line between bravery and stupidity’.
"A man's got to know his limits".
So weird how she was so determined but skipped so many steps to like prepare for it
Agree. Wonder w.t.h. drove her to do this.
@@xeno4746 she made a gigantic banner and put it in front of her tent. Clearly, an adrenaline junkie with huge ego-problems. Imagine giving those 40k usd to homeless people instead of chasing super dangerous situations that achieve absolutely nothing but a high risk of death. You climb a mountain... okay... so? How is this helping the world?
Narcissistic arrogance in action.
Just laziness. What the prize with no work 😢
Ignorance. She thought her efforts were adequate preparation enough. Totally underestimated the difficulty of climbing Everest, and foolishly believed her expedition leader that he could teach her all that she needed to know.
I also fault the mentality that "You can do anything you set your mind to." No you can't. Not always.
"She didn't like walking."
Okay! Let's climb Everest!
Haha. Exactly. :D
Brian HL right!
Someone should have talked her out of it.
@deputyVH But even her husband tried to talk her out of it and so did her friends, but the more they warned her about, the more drive that it gave her to do it. All the people who wanted to help weren't being negative or didn't say that she couldn't do it, they were merely talking her out of the dangers of doing it.
I'm glad I'm lazy and don't ever have to worry about doing anything that crazy
😂😂 so mee
Everest scares me. Even if someone payed me I’d never even go to base camp
Ye LOL
Really? Its a pretty easy 7 day hike. We are going to hike there next year
@@seanfatzinger Nice, best of luck
base camp is safe. I'm going soon
If someone paid me to go to base camp, I would. I wouldn't climb past that though.
In a tragically ironic way, she fulfilled her intended purpose in life to be an example for others.
“If I can hike the rural Ontario trails, I’m sure Everest will be a piece of cake”
"If I can beat my 5 year old kid in a game of Call of Duty, I'm sure taking down the entire ISIS all myself will be a piece of cake."
@@ary2766 Hahahaha!!!
@alraune 666 um, no it DOES matter where you acquire your training: besides being fit and in shape, you need to be a skilled and experienced mountain climber, familiar with the effects of high altitude on your body, familiar with the extreme cold, willing to spend the time to acclimate by going up and down the mountain between the various camps, know how to use all your gear inside and out...you can't just wake up one day and decide I'm going to climb Everest next month after taking a couple of hikes, because guess what you'll be like this chick and be dead...this is the epitome of the worst kind of western climber
@alraune 666 well making it down is the most important part of the climb, isn't it? Which she might have known if she'd known anything about mountain climbing, instead of placing an unreasonable value on the summit...a real mountain climber would have known when to turn around, no matter how close they were, because the summit isn't worth dying for...these 'reputable adventure teams' lead unqualified people up the mountain every year, and every year some die because they thought they could take shortcuts, and there is no margin of error, no rescue up there, and i don't think that's something people consider when they are training, at sea level where there is plenty of oxygen
@@ary2766 Touche'!
It like one climber said, if you have no respect for the power of that mountain, it will take your life.
1,000,000% AGREE🥺
EXACTLY!👍
Who said that?
Agreed. Respect Nature or it can AND IT WILL kill you.
"she believed in herself, very confident person" and that killed her
when "very confident" = delusional
Exactly 💯
I climbed 6 other mountains before going to everest and i still felt like i was not ready. Then i saw people like this and felt a little better. Until you see some of the same people at the top looking like they are about to die
That guy near the end hit the nail on the head: _"The more people that die on Everest, the more people want to try Everest."_
Agreed kind sir - the allure lies in the danger
@@donaldknowles9640 Yea, and also I think it's also about ego for some of them. People like to think they're better than others and it's like _"all these people died, but I survived so I must be smarter and stronger than them."_
But I think for most people it's just about reaching the highest point on Earth.
And for some it's just a challenge, and some just want to test their fitness.
There's so many different types of people who want to do it for different reasons, it's hard to pin a definitive label on them.
I'm sure though that if it was easy a lot more people would do it..
@@JoeBob79569 yeah brother - I think that ego has more to do with it than anything else - as far a the challenge goes there are peaks that are substantially more challenging than Everest think K2 in Pakistan which has a summit rate of less than 1 person for every 20 that summit Everest - they say that summiting Everest gives a climber bragging rights - summiting K2 gives a climber respect - I would however love to summit Everest
@@donaldknowles9640 Exactly! There are many more difficult challenges, and lots of things that are more dangerous, but Everest is the tallest and most famous. The average person probably knows that lots of people die on Everest and that it's the tallest mountain, so when you tell people that you climbed it they'll know what you're talking about.
But if you meet someone in the pub and tell them you climbed Annapurna, they mightn't give your ego the massaging it deserves. They might just think it's a small hill in the next town over or something!
Even if you explain that it was really difficult, they mightn't care, and if you tell them it's the 10th tallest mountain in the world they'd probably say "come back to me when you climb the tallest"! :-)
@@JoeBob79569 yes bro - I do agree with you that Everest has the most appeal for the reasons that you have stated - before I sign off - one correction if I may - Everest contrary to what I had (and many still do) believed is not the tallest mountain in the world - yes the summit of Everest is the highest peak above sea level however the height of a mountain is measured from the foot of the mountain to the summit - as it stands the foot of Everest (base camp) as you know is situated in the Himalayas which itself is already kilometres above sea level therefore there are mountains which have peaks that not as high as that of Everest - but are in fact taller than Everest because the base camp of these mountain's are closer to sea level - Chimborazo in Ecuador has a peak which is not as high as that of Everest - but the peak of Chimborazo is in fact 2 kilometers farther from the center of the earth than that of Everest - with that said I wish you the peaks of your dreams
Seriously: the interviewer has the audacity to ask the owner about the responsibility of his company to ensure the climber is not endangered when they clearly told her not to progress further and warned her that this would result in death. The stupidity is astounding.
She didn't respect Mother Nature, and she didn't respect the Sherpas, her arrogance was her downfall (unfortunately)
My uncle farted in my mouth this morning
@@nicholasguthaux4668 Lucky!
@@nicholasguthaux4668 any follow-through to chew on?
"She was sweet and nice" wow dude, must have really loved her
2012: Look at me, I climbed Everest. 2021: nobody remembers
She's more famous for the stupid way She died, not for the climbing.
Whether ppl make it out dead or alive the sherpas are the real mvps
In trekking, to be more precise
Truth. Without them, the climbers would be totally screwed...can't imagine them wanting to do it all when they have to carry all their stuff themselves.
@Primordial Wilderness stupid question. her type is obviously noodles.
@Primordial Wilderness ew, why are you gross? Go back to your primordial swamp
Ahh, your virtue signaling is much needed.
I don't know why they're praising her like she was a hero. again I'm sorry she seemed like a nice woman. but she lost her life to her inexperience and drive.
youandiryan eh. when you're on that side of the wrong with loved ones you can't help but support them. even if they're making a huge mistake. but yeah. it's silly to say lightly. her memory is largely respected by those who loved. she is still a fool.
sherpa is the hero
even expereced climbers have died on everest
I agree
Honestly if it was me, I'd scold those guys who praise her as a hero. I'd tell their love ones, like wtf were you all thinking. Climbing everest is a suicide mission. If she's my friend or a family member, I'd slap her face so hard she'd be paralyse and hopefully stuck on a wheel chair for life. So that she won't even think about going up that mountain.
That narrator is really harsh on the sherpas and the guy he's interviewing.
Dont blame the sherpas for someone else's stupid mistakes... Also why did that other guy not refund them the $50k after he cancelled the trip?!
He didn't refund cause hes a criminal basically. And it is partly the fault of the sherpas because they knew she had only 20 mins 02 and two sherpas still went on up with her. If they had refused and said if you go alone she would have had to go back. It shouldn't have been a case of advising her or telling her strongly it should have been a command and if that fails they should refuse to take her. Of course they are also to blame.
Fortunately I will never have the money to climb this thing.
Why not? If you really believe that you will have no money for it, guess what will happen.
Proapocalypse
Me too
Many get sponsors to do it
Even if I had the money, I wouldn't do it. No way. That mountain was not meant for people to climb it even if they do successfully climb back down. Just because it's there doesn't mean we should climb. It's a highly dangerous climb and nothing but pride gets them to climb the mountain. They are paying for their pride to climb this mountain.
@@ondrej689 i wont freeze to death?
Walks to get groceries once , signs up for Everest 🤦♂️
She should have sticked to making sandwiches.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I feel bad for the guides/sherpas. I wish that they could find other ways to earn money. God be with them.
They do have other ways but this pays way more. So it is a case of greed.
The more i watch these documentaries, the more I realize that climbing Everest is not worth it at all. The exhaustion, lack of oxygen and feeling sick is enough to destroy one up there.
And it is not even an real achievement because most pay their way to basically be carried up.
The Audacity of the fifth estate to try to blame the the guides smh...
Dirk Antoine the guides are not, but the owner is.
NCTarheel13 no he tried his best and even gave her more oxygen after she ran out! She literally had her life in her hands and let her pride get in her way of living.
Kanika Haggins this woman should not have been taken on a climb.
The guides and bis owner are all responsable if they accept clients they shouldn't.
The expedition company had never got anyone to the summit, so yeah I blame them too. They obviously didn’t know how to do it just yet.
She chose the startup because the more experienced companies would never have even allowed her to attempt the climb with zero "summit" experience.
I wonder which family member recommended the startup. Did they get a finder's fee?
They killed her for a few grand, moral is don't trust your 3rd world family members.
Bingo! None of the respectable guide companies would EVER let someone like this on Everest, NEVER!
In this particular instance, I believe there is far too much blame being apportioned to the Sherpa who were climbing with her, and also to the expedition company she climbed with.
I am not a climber, but regardless of whether I climb or not its quite clear that nobody can DEMAND anyone else go back down. You can tell someone, shout at someone, threaten them, demand they turn around, highlight the life or death risks they're posing to other climbers, etc etc, but beyond that, what else can you do realistically to MAKE someone turn around if they're adamant they are NOT turning around?!
Nobody owns the mountain, there are no police to enforce such a demand, and its not as though people are going to physically drag someone back down the mountain, so I'm stunned to see people like Russell Brice saying such things as he did.
The simple fact is that this woman killed herself, and all the blaming and accusations are be essentially misguided. Nobody in their right mind would even attempt to physically force someone down, against their will, on the slopes of Everest, when the person won't turn around!
Well said.
I am not sure why they are blaming the expedition people. She must have been very stubborn and difficult to deal with and there is only so much they can do, giving her advice.
Don't mean any disrespect but people here in India will take grueling advanced mountaineering courses and would still not dare to climb Everest and this lady here thought that a few local trails and a rock climbing gym will suffice for Everest. Common man........smh.
It's pretty hard to feel sorry for her. To me she just seemed stubborn and childish. Attempting to summit Everest with ZERO mountaineering experience is a fool's errand. At the end of the day, her tragic end was no one's fault but her own. I'm sorry for her husband, family, and friends.
I have to agree somewhat. Watching the video I noticed she appeared to "train" on the Niagara Escarpment outside Toronto. If the NA is even a 1,000' I'd be surprised. Probably should have tried some of Canada's mountains on the west coast to check her limitations/abilities but she mentioned she didn't have the funding to do all that "training" I suspect. I admire her dream and the drive to live it.
You have to respect the mountain.
Yes. The mountain always has the last word.
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Her husband should of had the backbone to tell her she has no business climbing Everest. I have no sympathy for him he's just as responsible in my opinion. If my wife came to me with this idea I'd Atleast not agree until she trains hard for a few years and climbs some smaller peaks.
Watching this documentary should be mandatory at base camp
Exactly
Sad she died, but no future climber to Everest or anywhere else should take this girl as an example. She is everything you shouldn't do while preparing yourself for any climb. No matter how stupid some might find these climbs, I feel everyone should do what they want to in their capacity. Cheers!! Namaste🙏
The photo of her at a climbing gym CRINGE- then her putting up a big banner of herself in rented gear at base camp has to be PEAK narcissism (sorry for the pun) - she was more interested in image than anything else. I imagine she was completely insufferable as a human being
Imagine paying $50k-100k and then being told the trip was cancelled because it's too dangerous, and NO REFUND. ???
You’re also forgetting that by that point you have also spent about a month at base camp
She did not successfully climb Mount everest. This video seems to glorify stubborness instead of healthy determination. She's not a hero. She caused her own death and almost those of others.
Totally agree.. I'm sorry she died, but it irks me how they all portray and admire her as a brave, exciting, admirable and courageous person.
@S I agree with you, but I'm 13 and not as dumb and utterly stupid as her
to successfully climb everest means you get back down alive anything else is a fail.
Lauren
Already, you’re a rocket scientist compared to her lol
Yep not a hero
You can't physically make someone turn around on Everest. The company she was with told her several times to turn around and she wouldn't it. It's not on their shoulders at that point. That's just my opinion though.
slonekettering25 true I agree, but 80,000 $ dollars later,they still should have refused it they proceeded with her ambition to climb it, but being a professional climber excepting the money with the promise they're going to reach it wth out failure, I've personally been on top of the world, her group kinda did lack experience with the situation of the understanding life itself, no one can pick anyone up at that altitude, but I did personally guide,and save a couple life's at my own choice for the simple fact,I would want that, but ofcourse you still have to have a understanding that you can't depend on anyone to save u, and you have to respect that,and go at peace!!!
I think she was given extra bottle of oxygen if I'm not wrong. She was already so late in summiting and still spent 30min up there, which is a very long time. Which is too much and stupid! Every ouch of oxygen counts once you put them on. She asked for it...tsk tsk tsk.
richard they said she was only given enough oxygen for the way up. the climbing company is at fault too
***** okay what are you trying to say? drunk or something? and rescue missions are insanely difficult.
The problem is that she was an inexperienced climber and took much much longer to make her way up, so she was using more oxygen than a regular climber. This was stated in the film. And she did spend far too long at the summit, again, wasting oxygen. Also altitude sickness/lack of oxygen does affect brain function, so her reasoning was impaired. This woman was in way over her head and should never have been on that mountain in the first place, endangering many others and ultimately killing herself.
She spent 30 minutes taking pictures and boasting when she could have started back down.....narcissism at its finest
The Fifth Estate is hands-down the best of all documentary shows.
I feel sorry for the Guide and the Sherpas who now have to explain to western media what responsibility actually means
what they see is: they paid money, they died, the guide was responsible for the safety.
They just ignore the fact that sherpas tell people "it's not safe, go back" and people don't listen.
Make that North American media. In europe its rather different. That is obviously my opinion.
@@user-ie6jr4bg1w i'm not so sure about that, english people seem to be extremely obsessed with traveling even if it's dangerous.
And in europe in general we still have plenty of idiots who are not responsible.
Should have just rolled her back down the mountain.
Yeah cause after taking 60 grand off her they weren't responsible in any way
I took a commercial plane to Florida 2 weeks ago. I was higher than Mt Everest, had oxygen, a seat, and was about 49,500 dollars cheaper. yay me
I love the planes. They are both cosy and cheap. I have summit beyond Mt. Everest more than 20 times. It is so weird that people still want to do it in a costly and arduous way.
Ditto . 29k feet, and someone's bringing me a drink ! A miracle.
But you didn’t accomplish conquering a mountain that few have. Climbing this mountain is something incredible making it or not.
Congrats, you're just one of another billions of people.
bad joke
We lost a Kenyan in Mt Everest and I've watched this documentary to understand the mountain better .
I just want to walk to the base of the mountain. Look at it from the bottom then walk back. That’s not even easy as it sounds.
"darling, what are you going to do next month?"
"i'll go climbing Mount Everest"
"but you can barely cross the street"
"and so what?! "
..............
there's this thin line between bravery and stupidity, well you know on which side of the line she was on the way to Everest
This is what happens when you tell someone their whole life starting with childhood “If you put your mind to it you can do it” this is stupidly at its finest I’m sorry she lost her life but when you are unexperienced you should listen to the people who are telling you “No”
These are adults who know full well the consequences and repercussions of what they are doing. These adults pay a ridiculous amount of money and devote a lot of time in this process of climbing Mt Everest. They are at base camp for 2 months witnessing first hand the carnage of this mountain and at anytime they can walk away. It’s the perpetual victim and not accepting accountability and trying to blame a country or government or an expedition company for ones owns actions.
Why is this glorifying her?! She made so many stupid mistakes
This should be a lesson in what never to do! And how arrogant people can be!
I agree that she made many mistakes, but I would not call this arrogant. I would call this blind and ignorant. Stupid, also...
@@brunozzz2736 There was a lot of arrogance and inexperience. She was stubborn and refused to listen.
Making "so many stupid mistakes" is what most people naturally do when voting, getting drunk, smoking pot, over eating, gambling them self into debt, driving while distracted, having illicit sex, not regularly bathing etc. Why pick on a dead person who isn't any less qualified to make decisions than most people?
I think the bodies on Everest would show that.
@@danieljones9245 she almost got other people killed for her own glory.
This is my favorite kind of story: human arrogance vs. Mother Nature. And nature reminding us just how powerless we are against her.
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What about father nature
Even if we try to destroy Mother Nature she still wins in the end.
"To build a fire" is an amazing short story about this exact thing. It's horrifying to read but it's great. I'd recommend anyone seeing this to check it out.
The craziest part of this video is that the guy didn’t refund people 50k after cancelling the climb lmao
The cost of the expedition and logistics didn't disappear and I am shure this case is part of the contract.
I thought that too 😂
Neither the managing team, nor the sherpas to be blamed, they did their best to convince her to turn back, but she didnt listen. Even she put sherpa's life in dangour too. Just respect and listen to who knows much much more about the mountain....
Her friend and husband act like she was a success. But she wasn't. The entire point is to get there and back safely. She was only talking about getting to the top, not getting home.
Susan Appleby. Yes, the summiting is not a success till you get back down safely. I think that's a common mistake that many people fails to factor in for the descend if they have enough oxygen and energy left to get down. Well, ego gets in the way, just purely dumb.
Plus: She obviously had no concern whatsowever for the lives of others she would be endangering with her idiotic plan. Not only was she a failure rather than a success, she was also a narcissistic and egotistical idiot.
I wish there was a double thumbs up for this comment.
MegaSmk AND she left behind a three-year-old daughter. There is nothing in the world that I would want to try if it meant that I might not ever see my child again.
Susan Appleby but she did get to the top. Can you make it to the top without dying? Regardless if you make it back down
When a Sherpa tells ya to quit it’s a good idea to quit
should be mandatory in fact, she might be alive if she listened.
@@russellg866 at that altitude people start to lose their minds and don’t think straight
It feels so weird to watch someone in real life knowing they are literally going to their death.
These sorts of documentary's are the best tho, cus it tells you what it can be like when its raw. Which I think is good, cus, let's be fair there's a lot of lessons to be learned from it.
Personally I hope this does not discourage anyone from their dreams, just hope you know what you're in for beforehand. .. Great documentary. Thanks.
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Sherpas had nothing to do with this death . This was clearly on her arrogance and Ego
This woman really was not honest with herself about her abilities to climb this mountain, and that was big problem #1. What kind of person displays big posters of THEMSELVES wearing a snowsuit on their tent at base camp? Really? The snowsuit that she probably needed help getting into, seeing as she never even WORE one before. IDK guys, but there's always going to be people out there who just don't have a clue. There's no amount of limiting of permits, or raising the costs, or selecting only experienced trekkers, that can save some people from themselves and their egos. Sad.
The truth is there will always be many egoistic dumb asses out there.
Well she was there under the guise of raising money for a Toronto children's hospital, hence the posters. Which ended up not raising any money at all. But yeah, she was there for herself.
Well, at least she died doing what she loved: Being stubborn.
😂😂
Her husband probably had enough of her ego. When she came up with the Everest plan, he was like “ oh yeah, it’s gonna happen “
Her husband didnt even know she was going until the last days before she left Canada.
She didn't want to go back. Then begged for help. She didn't want to die. She was totally unprepared mentally and physically, no idea what she was getting into. What drove her to do this ??
R.I.P.
narcissism (the first few minutes show this perfectly)
Stop trying to blame the company. They arent her parents and arent going to physically pull her off the mountain and hold her captive so she cant climb. She is a free person. If she wants to learn then they can teach her. Thats the business.
ImmortalHitman no, but they can refuse to guide her. Fools should have.
This is so typical of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's Fifth Estate. She was Canadian and thus despite the obvious, her amazing selfishness, someone was more wrong than her.
NCTarheel13 they told her BEFORE she went that she would kill them and herself and that shouldn’t go! Wtf are stupid or dumb because it’s pretty obvious what happened.
@@Tarheel13 She had a few warnings, was slower than a snail, was using up her oxygen, then stayed at the summit for too long - again using up oxygen and her body deteriorating. Nothing penetrated her brain, so she paid the price.
she probably didnt want to spend more money. i am guessing the more experienced well known guides costed more money. she probably just wanted to take the cheap route
To be honest, the story first started interesting, and then when they told who she was it got a little silly.. And then when she made that climbing poster it just got more silly... and then when she brought that poster up with her tent... It just started to become... to much... Like who is she trying to fool? Is it that important to show of to other people? And when she didn't even seem to care for the other experienced climbers life.. I just lost it. She could never reach the summit or even half the mountain without the experts, but still she just didn't give a crap about their own life, or listened to their warnings... She didn't care that her presence could kill the others when they warned her. And she just stayed at the summit for 30 minutes while knowing that she barely had any oxygen left? I mean wtf? And I thought that this just couldn't become more stupid.. And at the end.. I barely felt sorry for her, just more face palmed, sorry. I'm a snowboard instructor myself who love to climb mountains and take some risks to push myself in life and support that lifestyle 100%, but this story is not inspirational nor heroic, just more rather narcissistic, egocentric, and stupid...
nicely said!
@barret jo Chill out dude, people will always express their opinions through social media, you don't need to read them every time
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@barret jo make 1000s of mistakes, but never make a mistake where you death is almost sure!
@@Thadnill Ah he got ratioed.
I decided, hey...let’s look up this “utmost adventure” company. Probably some “fly by night” business who’s already gone under. WRONG...this program tries to paint them as such but when you research them, not only are they still around (operating all over the Himalayas), they’re incredibly well-rated. So who’s left to blame? The Sherpas? You mean the most highly regarded mountaineers on the planet? This program brushes over some major, major factors. “We used to goof on her for being lazy”, photoshopped pictures, a history of compulsive behavior, high rise apartment “training”. At what point do you stop and say “oh wait a minute...that’s the REAL story”?
At the point when knowing she had hardly any 02 two guides still took her up. Of course they are partly (and a big part) to blame.
Story of courage. No experience ,training , despite having lived in Nepal a force of nature she didn't evaluate or assess the danger I think this is a story of warning to never overreach yourself to keep a clear head and no get sucked into crazy pipe dreams .
She was a big girl. She made her decision.
there’s a fine line between confidence and arrogance. sometimes, as in this case, that line divides life or death.
Short but true
The ONLY responsibility these companies have is not accepting unqualified, unprepared climbers period! Don't accept whoever can pay, have guidelines and requirements and don't accept anyone who doesn't meet them. That was their mistake. After you are up there and you tell this person, go down or you will die and the person refuses, what do you expect the sherpas to do? How can you force an adult to go back down? That is impossible! IMPOSSIBLE!! If the person refuses to go back, there is nothing you can do to force them.
I'm shocked. After scaling Mt. Anthill in rural Ontario and regularly accessing the finest sports nutrition at the All You Can Eat Curry Buffet Pagoda, what could go wrong?
Her addiction to her ego, labeled "determination", killed her. It's like watching a junkie OD.
Junkie is an offensive term. Please have empathy for addicts we suffer greatly and none of us want to be addicts. I'm 4 years sober but I still remember what I went through as if it were yesterday and feel for all addicts.
@Rodrick Evans Yeah, but can you not have empathy for the fact they have pain, shame, embarassment they can't bear? Child abuse victims, for example. It's not a direct choice, it's complex.
Junkies are junkies, don't like the word? Don't be a junkie
This is like being a runner of 1 mile and deciding to run a 26 mile marathon without any training. People have died doing this. She should have trained , climbing for years and then try if you still wanted to.
She got the dream of being at the summit, but she didn’t dream of coming back down.
If you don't make it back down, you haven't "climbed" anything.
Thats like saying if you dont spit after brushing your teeth, you didn't brush your teeth.
Stop it. Let her have at least that moment in death and gratification of reaching the summit, fulfilling the dream. Without a doubt, it’s a reckless, stupid urge she acted upon. But don’t judge the dead ... she did climb it.
The sherpas are the Angels of their Kingdom, in this case the HIMALAYAS.
When they tell you to go back GO BACK!!!
I totally agree with you. These sherpas were not given the respect they should have been.
One of main complaints is too much emphasize is placed on Shirya in this "HEY EVERYBODY, HERE I AM" silliness. Bathing her ego with a showboat attitude. Rest her soul, had she only known. Beck Weathers said it best "if you have no spouse, lover, friends, family or co workers, then by all means climb Everest. That lame "She died doing what she loved" is a bunch of nonsense. You can bet 'Love' turned to "Terror' in the final hours. Then the thrill is gone. R.I.P. Shriya Shah-Klorfine ... ... ... NAMASTE!
agreed..she was naïve about the reality of Everest.
THIS.
Hahaha! Please....she died to feed her ego and self gratification. Nothing noble at all.
Should I get down this mountain considering my family describes me as a person that hates walking ??? Nah 'm Stay... ✌🏼
I will admire Mount Everest but I will not dare climb it under any condition.
Thank you.
I know it must be so frustrating to feel so close and to be told you need to turn around...but jeez! They can't leave you and they are risking their lives. If they die it's on your hands...so if a sherpa says go back, you go back.
That's why overconfidence is more dangerous than low confidence...