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KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON MOVIE REVIEW | Double Toasted - Today at Double Toasted we have our Killers Of The Flower Moon review. In this funny video, we look at the Killers Of The Flower Moon trailer, discuss the performances, the direction of Scorsese and yes, we bring up the movies length and if it should have been shortened. What did you think of Killers Of The Flower Moon? Let us know in the comment section below.
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I’m with Korey. We need Scorsese to make a movie every year just to have De Niro not make trash Grandpa films
They could do Xmas Specials. For example Xmas with Travis Bickle, etc
Sorry pals, I do love those terrible grandpa films!
He was great in Awakenings and Copland. Both were directed by different directors. Seeing Deniro in a Scorsese every year will get boring.
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@@mryazman300or Greg Focker
My favorite line that illustrates how dumb Ernest Burkhart (DiCaprio) is is when Jesse Plemons shows up and tells Ernest he’s investigating the murders and DiCaprio goes “what about em?” And Plemons is like “uh… who’s doin em?”
If I can sit through Oppenheimer for 3/12 hours and I know I can sit through Martin Scorsese in IMAX.
You might have actually sat there for 3 hrs. This is already +1/2 hr longer.
honestly didn't think scorsese could keep churning out films like these, but he is a beast
A seriously passionate artist and I think the crew loves to work with him due to his respectful nature as a collaborator.
The radio show coda was really dope! The Osage murders playing out as hokey entertainment, told by white people. Scorsese closing out that scene talking about Mollie's obituary not even mentioning the murders of her family was a bit of a gut punch as well.
Really makes me look at the people that profit off of the whole “true crime” CZcams and media different. They do mention the victims, but it’s really weird how they profit off of murder stories. Idk man.
DeNiro perfectly depicted the evil that was bill hale. The osage nation loves uncle marty, lily, cara, jillion, and janae ❤
He played that evil so damn well! Give him a Oscar please!
I am excited to see this movie for 1 particularly unique reason..... 30 years ago my wife and her mom let a woman they met stay at their home for a short period..... during this time, the woman told them stories about her life on the reservarion in the 1920.s as a little girl, and all of the horrible things that happened to the tribe, and specifically to her own family. So my wife heard these stories from someone who had first hand experience. But the most amazing thing..... her name was Elizabeth Burkhart Ware, and her parents were Earnest and Mollie Burkhart..... played in this movie by Leo and Lily. I heard these stories second hand from my wife because we had a long distance relationship at the time, but besides how horrific and unbelievable these stories were, one thing in particular stood out to me. Elizabeth told my wife that this was an important part of history that was basically being swept under the rug.... she told my wife that these accounts were not being given attention for their importance in history. I will be watching the movie with the thought that I wish she could have been alive to see that these stories are finally being shed in a new light.....
Wow that's cool a small world
TL:DR
Native Oklahoman here ... a story that needs to be told. IT IS MY HISTORY.
@@kevinmichaeljoy8074Not a small world. The SAME country and the SAME people. People act like America had a hard reset before they were born and everything’s new.
@@hammirandaADHD is a hell of a thing. You probably wouldn’t like this terrific film.
This happened around the same time the Black Wall Street massacre in Tulsa
The Same Year. 1920
Yep
Colonizers….. aren’t they great???😂
It’s brought up in the film, actually
Would love to see Martin Scorsese’s take on that atrocious event 😢
As a Native American, I hear what your saying Korey, but don't forget, Native American consist of many tribes that are different from each other. One Tribe may be better off and do as you say, while others weren't so lucky.
It's weird for me to hear how people talk about us like were homogeneous, but I can recognize you're just trying to describe your thoughts on this particular tribe.
I feel you on the homogeneous part almost like what happens to my people Black people.
Native Americans are African my friend
Korey's just a black moderate who protects white people at all cost because that's how he keeps the lights on. If you wanted Korey's acknowledgment, then sorry that you born the wrong color.
Either one korey don't like you my friend.@@odizza1688
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Black and Native relations was very case by case. A LOT of tribes actually took in escaped slaves and treated them like family. Several "civilized" tribes though did own slaves. Theres also stories though of Black groups used to hunt and often destroy tribes. In the flip side tribes were sometimes rewarded for tracking and turning in slaves. So it's very case by case.
Human History is crazy stuff.
The Buffalo Soldiers were the ones who help track down Geronimo
@@tefnut93really?
@@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881 fact, the buffalo soldier were 20% of soliders who particapted in the indian wars
They got played out against each other...
I'm so glad they referenced the Tulsa Massacre in this movie. That historical incident popped in my mind several times even before the reference in the movie.
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🏚🏚Why do you think that the *Mason Mafia and the business of Crime* had something to do with the Tulsa incident that was taking place at the same point in this history?♦♣♥♠
Scorsese is going out like a pimp in his 80s, and God bless him for it.
Man's great!
I'd like to see stallone in a Scorsese movie
@@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881Nah.
His he done?
Did anyone expect to see John Lithgow or Brendan Fraser in the movie? I didn’t.
I was a little shocked.
@@trenee23000 two of the most adorable lawyers ever.
I didn’t. But idky Brendan fraiser had me cracking up when he first came on scene and was like “let me talk to my client. I haven’t talked to my client” screaming and yelling lol
“Hale was born in Texas and rose to prominence, herding cattle all the way from his native state up through Kansas before settling in Osage Country. By the 1900s, he and his wife moved to a dedicated Osage town for better trading. Hale was uneducated but a shrewd (read: shady) negotiator who amassed his fortune through nefarious means like insurance fraud and ripping off the Osage in trades.
In a memo to J. Edgar Hoover, investigator Tom White (played by Jesse Plemons in the film) stated, “Eventually he became a millionaire, who dominated local politics and seemingly could not be punished for any of the many crimes which were laid at his door. “His method of building up power and prestige was to put various individuals under obligation to him by means of gifts and favors shown to them. Consequently, he had a tremendous following in the vicinity composed not only of the riffraff element which had drifted in but of many good and substantial citizens.”
His influence extended down to all parts of life in Fairfax, the major town, including having a controlling interest in the bank, a part ownership in the general store and funeral home, and he was a reserve deputy sheriff.”
Scorsese, De Niro, and DiCaprio… This is a team up event I’ve been waiting for
I'll happily sit through a 3 1/2hr film made by a master like Martin Scorsese
Same here. Better than any streaming show.
I enjoyed Irishman and Last Temptation of Christ I finally figured it out it's a what if about faith and how it's important to do Gods will and everyone knows Jesus Christ is our example we must follow.
@@Thespeedrap that is the only Scorsesse movie I never finished. It bored me to death
@@parareefaelias656 Which one?
@@Thespeedrap last temptation of christ. not even the irish man got me bored.
People don’t like it cause it’s PROBABLY TRUE
It's 100% true and this is a nice version and tells about 5% of all the murders that happened. Read the FBI files on it. It's so ugly what they did.
It’s true for sure. The Natives got the okie doke for centuries. Some kept falling for the shenanigans unfortunately and got destroyed internally.
Let’s see how well this movie does because Scorsese movies rarely bring in the box office, despite him being 1 of the most celebrated filmmakers ever
But his movies with DiCaprio are always a huge hit: Aviator, Departed, Shutter Island, Wolf of Wall Street. Then again, WOWS was 10 years ago, and the landscape is dramatically different. It's not beating Taylor Swift, that much is for sure though.
I don't think Scorcese cares about breaking box office records. He just enjoys directing and making films.
@@Spoonky92Movie Production Companies does care about box office numbers but then Scorsese films doesn’t need that much funding because his movies doesnt cost that much to begin with
@@sakuragi1062irishman cost $300 million....
@@sakuragi1062hugo was $195 million
You know when Leo resembles a British Bulldog whilst assuming a role, that he's acting his socks off. Definitely will get an Oscar nom.
You're so right about the bulldog thing! I've never thought about that
It was a well done movie, but as a long time lover of the book, I wish the film had focused more on Molly and her sisters.
5:00 We supposed to be waving flags and eating hot dogs. 🇺🇸🌭. That cracked me up lol.
The Irishman was really good, but I don't think it warranted 3.5 hours. For Netflix the length was fine but I probably would have gotten restless in the theater. I didn't feel the length of 3 hours of Wolf of Wall Street, but it was much quicker-paced with a lot of humor. My favorite of Scorsese's films are his collaborations with Dicaprio so we'll see with the length, but I do want to see this one in the theater.
Yeah, I do feel this worked length-wise, better than Oppenheimer.
Its always worth it if Scorsese is directing/writing.
All I can think of is Tulsa, Oklahoma. Descendants are still alive and were recently denied reparations for the state and federal government atrocities
That’s really horrible… how dare they not get the reparations they deserve..
@@margot_777 just tulsa!Tulsa!? Do you know how many majority black Towns there were during the reconstruction era!? Jim Crowe literally put an end to us pulling ourselves up by our own bootstraps. We have been the only ones without reparations, monetary assistance, land distribution, to create and build over and over again.
My most anticipated film of the year.
Also it’s like DiCaprio called up Quentin Tarantino and said. “Hey you still got that brown tooth paint from Django?”
4:59-5:03…I don’t think Korey realizes how profound and brilliant that statement was in regards to Americas revisionist history of white supremacy and white terrorism…😂😂😂😂😂😂 That needs to be the title of a future book. And I can’t wait to watch this movie, Looks so good.
@TheOneManWhoBeatYou Yes, revisionist history.
One of the reasons why Osage would marry white men is because Osage needed a White (male) Guardian to be in charge of their Headrights money.
Osage women could bypass this by marrying a white man and making him their guardian.
30 min mark Korey you are absolutely right. If you look at the Spaniard caste system it's 16 parts. Yt at the top, black at the bottom and indigenous in the middle and the mixes.
Half indigenous and yt is meztizo and that's higher up on the hierarchy. Then there are half yt half black ppl m*latto. There are also half indigenous and half black which is afro indigenous. So there are P.O.C. who are def anti black and it makes sense unfortunately bc we're the racial group placed on the bottom so any racial group placed somewhere above, even one level up is going to do their darndest to appeal to ytness so that they can move as far from P.O.C. status and "elevate" and for that reason I resent the clumping of all non yts as if we are experiencing the same struggle. There are plenty indigenous ppl who visually can pass for yt and blend in, same with Latinos (I know it's an ethnic group not a race), and Asians (despite some being darker skinned in the U.S. they still aren't seen at the level of Blk ppl) and so you made a great necessary point. There are def anti black P.O.C. but they shoot themselves in the foot bc they're stuck in the delusion they can "tap dance" their way into yt acceptance, but it's never possible. Racists don't just dislike P.O.C. they don't see them as human and demand or don't care about their eradication.
cowlatinamerica.voices.wooster.edu/2020/05/04/the-casta-system/#:~:text=The%20Casta%20System%20was%20created%20by%20the%20Spanish%20to%20maintain,unofficially%20in%20place%20after%20independence.
learninglab.si.edu/collections/social-structure-of-the-spanish-colonies/Az7K7pzsxgRahMwn#:~:text=The%20social%20class%20system%20of,Mulattoes%2C%20Native%20Americans%20and%20Africans.
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Truer words have never been spoken. The "Natives" arent exempt. They also owned slaves as well. Yet they also got reparations, then turn around and deny tribal memberships to Black Natives to avoid having to share them, some tribes were sued and taken to court over that. Cant empathise with that, they laid with dogs and got fleas
"I felt the length but it was justified" was crazy
Oppenheimer was that movie to me, tbf.
@thefirstbourne149 Oppenheimer was too long in my opinion and I really felt it. Killers of the Flower moon on the other hand didn't even feel like 3.5 hours.
I prefer seeing movies over 2 hours on the big screen, 3+ hours is fine! I loved Oppenheimer too, never bored a minute!
If this happened now a days. The oil company would setup right next to the indain reservation and drill down and over and drill the oil out from underneath their feet.
Very good discussion. I enjoyed listening to your breakdown of this film. It's such an important tragic story that needs to be told. We can't pretend that horrific events like this didn't happen and run away from the dark ugly moments in our past..... and I'm glad that Scorsese decided to tell the story from Molly Burkhart's point of view. Lily Gladstone is a true revelation and she deserves an Oscar for her beautiful heartfelt role. Please go see this film!! Also, I have to give a shout out to the amazing Mexican cinematographer Rodrigo Prieto for his beautiful stunning photography in this film. What a year he's having shooting both Barbie and this movie.
A consultant on the film recently came out and said the story would’ve been fitted greatly had it been from Mollie’s POV instead of Ernest. And the way he explained it, I get why. I’m sure it’s still an incredible movie though.
Sorry did you mean benefitted 😂?
Hollywood wants to focus on the very famous white guy, not the very talented indigenous woman.
@@thefirstbourne149 lol that makes way more sense
Yeah. My first thought. The Green Book, Jackie Robinson style.
I think you could make an investigative film that is suspenseful and works via Molly's POV & Tom White through the Native American Undercover. There was a different approach to this film that not only stayed true to the book, but made the Osage Tribe the main focal/driving point of the narrative. But Scorsese does what he could through his usual wheelhouse of storytelling and while definitely a flawed one, is still a compelling and tragic calamity of greed and control through the criminals of this case.
Some theaters in Europe and a few in the USA had an intermission (~15 minutes) at the mid-point. Intermissions used to be common in the 60’s for long movies like “Cleopatra”. For this movie, theaters that had intermissions were ordered by the studio to stop. By adding an intermission, the studio claimed it was a disruptions in the flow of the storyline. For me, I could have used an intermission to empty my bladder. After the movie, every urinal in the restroom was occupied.
I would love to see Scorsese make a movie about Tulsa
Don't know if I'll sit through a movie for this long but I'll definitely watch it at home where I can pause on the detail that really give out a good analysis. I'm still rooting it for it though in theaters
A long film at home feels longer. Trust me.
@@EzeICE And? If this movie is good, why wouldn't you want it longer?
@@shindean you didn't understand what I said. The runtime is usually the clinch that will stop people from going to the cinemas.
@@EzeICE I don't care about other people, I care how I analyze the film. Runtime doesn't matter in my home.
@@shindean more power to do. You obviously cared about my thoughts. Good day
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The 1920s you has this and later the Tulsa massacre
I didn't think I could be more scared of DeNiro than in Cape Fear.. He was pure evil in this film. It wasn't too long - I saw it last week and I am still thinking of it.
It was worth the runtime, a smaller film than I thought it would be
It's a rare thing when epic movies like this are made. Takes me back.
I saw this last night, yes it is too long and I felt they could've trimmed the first couple of hours but once Jesse Plemons came in , I was hooked for that last hour of the investigation and trial and that last piece where Scorsese make his cameo is great.
If anything Leo felt like the weak link not that he was bad or anything but unlike De Niro he didn't disappear into his role and I couldn' t help but notice that. At times he felt like an adult Arnie Grape
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Agreed. Too long, and pacing was a little slow up until Plemons showed up.
Leo plays a terrible man, as he was in real life.
Leo felt like the one trying so hard in the role, whereas DeNiro and Gladstone truly embodied these people and are some of the most remarkable performances in the film. Especially for Gladstone, who brought a complexity to the wife that conveyed so much love and heartbreak that Molly must have experienced being with Ernest.
For a second I got scared Martin was gonna take his hat off.
The movie is about 60 minutes too long. It really drags until the third act. I’m so glad Scorsese decided to make the epilogue a radio play, otherwise the movie would have been 4 1/2 hours long
This is an important film of a piece of American history I’ve never even heard of.
the movie didn't even feel like it was 3 hours really time just went by i was so engaged in the story
I love scorsese he always have a great delivery goodfellas was long but great too
Just watched this movie last night and I loved it. I’m a Martin Scorsese fan , but didn’t wanna watch it cause of how long it was. Decided to and boy was I glad I did it. And the “spanking” Leo got in the movie is an old Masonic practice that they do in early fraternity clubs in college that pass through Masonic temples around the world. Robert deniros character in this movie was very powerful and had connections all around the world. Was honestly a little upset they didn’t show how big his influence was. Nevertheless great movie.
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“Feel the length” should be the poster phrase for this movie.
It's funny that the book he movie is based on the birth of the FBI, and DiCaprio was in a film about J. Edgar Hoover.
He was J. Edgar Hoover.
I haven't seen the film but I heard nothing but amazing things about De Niro's performance. As someone who still enjoys the Oscars, I still think, regardless, the Best Supporting Actor will go to Robert Downey Jr. When you already have two Oscars, it super super hard to get a third. Downey Jr. will get the Jamie Lee Curtis treatment of last year.
If you mean for Oppenheimer, I fully agree!
@@Skeezer66What else would he mean?
@@TalkingThrones I don't know if RDJ has done any other films this year.
Gosling for Barbie and Marshawn Lynch for Bottoms.
More comedy at the Oscars please!
@@travisspazz1624 I think 1 of those will happen, but not for the guy with the SB ring.
This movie was an absolute masterpiece! So glad to see a film show the truth and history that hasn’t been talked about
A beautiful execution
leo was originally considered for the lead fbi agent, but i guess he figured that role wouldn't require him to do too much acting, so he opted to play the role of the dimwitted nephew to king and husband to mollie - otherwise, i don't think that particular role would've had much prominence in the movie at all
A country ass Goodfellas 😂😂
Wow i just heard the whole story on the Osage murders on serial killers podcast. It's great to see this story get out more its a sad truth that should be known
I'm really looking forward to this one. I really love a good period piece plus the story is really interesting... what seems odd is how they didn't have any mention of Brendan Fraser in the trailers..
I didn't know he was in this, I'd guess he's the FBI agent, which they seem to be treating as a surprise.
He plays a small role in it
"Country-ass Goodfellas"
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An actor needs a good script and director, the same as a footballer is useless without a ball , it's very hard for even an actor like de Niro to get good parts at his age , de Niro never lost it , he just needed a quality script and a brilliant director
This is why a real life time traveling Robocop needs to exist.
To Corey's point lots of Native Tribes were slave owners the actor Don Cheadle found out his ancestors we're owned by native Americans Some tribes were slave catchers they also fought for the south during the civil war
Real American history. They won't show this in Florida.
Still sounds like a movie I’d rather watch at home
That's fine. I just want people to watch this and learn about the treatment of indigenous Americans *somehow* and not brush it off.
Here's a trick to seeing this movie without needing to go out and pee. Don't drink anything until Jesse Plemons arrives on screen. Then it's okay. By the time you need to go, the movie's over
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At the end of it, I would say this movie was much more worth the 3 and 1/2 run time than the Oppenheimer 3 hour run time, which really was about an hour longer than it needed it be. My own reaction was that I barely ever laughed during this movie and the heaviness is an endurance test.
Robert Deniro's performance was exceptional.
De Niro needs to keep making bad movies in order to pay child support
Just watched it and loved it
Gonna see this Saturday. First Scorsese movie i'm gonna watch in theaters. Can't wait i've been hearing good stuff 👍
Me too actually holy sh*t!!
Can't wait for this one!!!
I really want to see this movie next weekend. Been hearing all good things
The runtime is be a one inch barrier of entry that doesn't warrant this much discussion. It's just a number the movie itself is the substance
This movie needed to be 6 months long cause this was just about the beginning the end has not got close. These are still controlling everything
We supposed to be waving flags and eating hot dogs...lol
On the subject of run time, the length didn't bother me. I saw this and 'The Irishman' (and 'Heaven's Gate' with an intermission) without breaks and it wasn't an issue - until I had to use my legs to leave lol! You can see how those films could be broken up into a mini-series though.
If you have the time to go see Opprenheimer but not Killers of the Flower Moon... you saying it doesn't have to be three hours but you can say the same thing about most 3 hour movies. Opprenheimer, Beau is Afraid, Avatar 2. If you really care about seeing a movie a runtime shouldn't stop you to go see it in theaters, especially scorsese
You're right. I sat through Ghandi and I know a lot of people would disagree with me, but I loved every minute of it. I'm glad Scorsese made a film like this. He's a brilliant filmmaker and I'm sure I can sit through this film because I'm interested in the story. Spielberg has done some pretty long movies that I've seen at the theatres and I've enjoyed them as well.
Just don’t drink too much before/during the movie. At about the 3 hour 15 minute mark, I looked at my empty soda cup with temptation, lol.
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We’ll see how this film does
I saw the movie. it is too long. Actors were great but by the end I didnt care about any of it anymore because it was too long .
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I really understand and truly think the criticism towards the film in its approach and focusing so much on the villains/victims instead of the investigators and Osage Tribe that were the main cast of the book will be ruffled by that and the rare times I can see the inherent problems with its execution. Personally, I think it was unique, if not always flawless added context to the story by providing the motivations and reasons behind the criminals of this case, even if it falls into Scorsese's usual storytelling wheelhouse at times. In spite of that, this was visually crafted well, utilized the period in set design and cinematography, and everyone in the cast is belting out fantastic performances (outside of a few that were odd or won't age as well upon reflection and repeated viewings, right now, a cameo actor comes to mind and Leo is the weaker performer of the 2 other leads that play their parts exceptionally well). So yeah, very high recommend from me as well and one worth seeing in any convenient way! ;)
What was wrong with the cameo, though? Even if it’s distracting, I don’t think this was ever an “ages-well” thing, it would just be distracting for someone or it wouldn’t. I liked seeing that actor play it up, so maybe that’s just me, but then there’s Leo. I personally thought maybe you could say he is just the least great out of three great performances, but again, what will not “age well”? Unless it’s a piece of dialogue I missed, then maybe, but otherwise, I don’t think anything he did ages well just because it is that film. It’s like Gone with the Wind, which is considered one of the greatest films of all time (which I haven’t seen), where some performances from one of the few black actors in movies are the time we’re asked to give performances that didn’t agree well.
I'm always down for a Scorsese flick, but I can wait 6 weeks for it to hit Apple TV, where I can hit pause for snacks and bathroom trips. One big reason Scorsese works with streamers like Netflix and Apple now is because they're happy to let him have the budgets and runtimes he wants, unlike those currently in charge at the studios
I still remeber that oil well scene from tintin in america that was also setin 1930s
If only movie theaters had intermission, I would go see it.
You know it’s real good if Martin gave a full price. And for the record, Im one of the few who enjoyed Irishman lol
Is this movie gonna be allowed to play in theaters in Florida with the current legislation going on?
I live in PSL, Florida. I have seen trailers for the movie playing in local theaters so I’m certain it will play in mainstream theaters like AMC and Regal, I don’t know about independent theaters though.
Dang, you guys have state censorship in Florida?
Wait does it relate to minorities or is it more just a liberal vs conservative thing, like they’re gonna say stuff about the movie being woke or just being unholy or something like that?
Nope. No censorship here. The movies out in theaters.
Seeing Monday and I can't wait!
Saw it today. It was brilliant. Didn’t mind the run time.
Just saw it and its a great film. Deffo worth an imax ticket
How did you guys saw this ? Îs this în cinemas ?
They most likely saw it at a press screening before it’s released to the public.
I think it comes out this Friday
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They don't like that history ugh u mean the truth or watered down version cause it's always worse in real life.
i think it was a fine piece of american history... its one of those where i thought the runtime was a little long, but at the same time... its hard to put that much material in a shorter film... might have been better as a miniseries ... edit* oh yeah i didn't like the ending, which makes me think about the miniseries thing i just said.
No way. It's worthy of hearing that soundtrack in a state of the art surround system all the way to the end of the credits.
I wonder how much Korey and Martin know about the history between "Native Americans" and "black people"? Colonization really destroyed a lot.