PE2023 RESULTS ANALYSIS with Prof Tommy Koh | Political Prude Ep 8
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- We are capping this PE2023 series with a post-results analysis episode with someone we never expected to have on the show but are deeply honoured to host: Professor Tommy Koh. He is a Special Adviser at the Institute of Policy Studies at the National University of Singapore. He is also a diplomat, lawyer, professor and author who served as Singapore's Permanent Representative to the United Nations between 1968 and 1971.
In this episode, we pick Prof Koh’s brain on Mr. Tharman’s landslide victory, including the various reasons that led to the unexpectedly wide victory margin. We will also discuss what the future of Singapore with Mr. Tharman as President can look like.
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Chapter Markers:
(00:00) Opening
(01:30) Welcoming Prof. Tommy Koh
(01:44) Discussion on Tharman's Surprise Landslide Victory
(05:48) Discussion on Ng Kok Song and Tan Kin Lian
(08:27) Discussion on Politicisation of the Presidential Election
(10:40) Discussion on Whether The Results Show Support for PAP
(12:00) Discussion on the Relevance of Race in Elections
(14:37) Final Reflections on Results
(15:25) Discussion on Tharman's Capabilities to Fulfil President Role
(23:33) Discussion on Mrs. Tharman, Ms. Jane Ittogi
(25:48) Discussion on Social Media and Election Campaigning
(29:35) Discussion on Having an Optimistic Leader
(31:33) Discussion on Future Challenges and Opportunities
(35:00) Discussion on the President-Prime Minister Relationship
(38:11) Prof Koh's Final Words
(39:22) Closing
Singaporeans are not stupid and dun play play.....hor.
Indeed Prof Koh is the perfect person to wrap up this PE 2023! and what a smart move inviting him to this program.
Well done!!!
I am happy to hear Prof Koh pointing out the unwritten diplomatic role of our President.
As the Head of State, Mr Tharman with his tremendous linkages and experience, is an asset to Singapore; priceless and peerless. He is therefore, well suited to represented Singapore in the world stage, I cannot emphasise this enough. I wish Mr Tharman every success as the President of the Republic of Singapore!
Having said the above, I do not undermine Prof Koh's other insights, whose views are always valuable and highly regarded by me.
how is that "unwritten"? that diplomatic role has always been well-known. the real "unwritten" role is the soft power to influence decision-making at the highest levels imo.
@@jbrkjferkjbekjb, sharp .
That is the unwritten role which TKL had been trying hard to say.
5:05 “Jane was his secret weapon” Absolutely spot on, Professor Tommy Koh.
Agreed 💯
Yesss. But I actually don't really care (😅) that she is half-Chinese (actually my friends asked me "you ok with a Japanese first lady ah?" And I said "huh never thought abt this till you asked me") and Teochew (🙃), but I loved that she has interests in art, poetry, that Mr and Mrs T had the same vibe (😬), loved that they were truly .. in it *TOGETHER* (even though her first interview abt how she has the last word/"will run for presidency and you still get to do 'all your thing' " came off not very in their favour at first)
But I mean like when Mothership (😬) did the closing of the campaign trail, the pic of the Tharmans sharing a coconut (not 🍍 lol), really had the "this was long and hard, but I'm glad we did it .. together" reverberating all over. I didn't see the "I'm glad we did it ... together" from the other 2 candidates' other halves 🙃
Go hang your Japanese lady photo lah...Dont forget to recite your Singapore Pledge.
Thanks saved me 40 mins :)
An excellent podcast programme. Prof Koh was very sharp in his answers. Host was excellent too. Thank you.
Mr.Tharman is the best president Singapore ever had. There'll be no second Mr.Tharman for the next many generations. Singaporeans, Kudos, you have saved the tiny island. God bless Singapore!
I think you are a little judgemental in your opinion. Mr. Tharman had just started working as the president and nobody could see the future.
His pass performance speaks loud and clear... from what Singapore is today... ❤
Professor Tommy Koh is beyond excellence. He speaks clearly, even simply and straight to the point, this put forward brilliantly. Prof Tommy Koh and President Tharman are both absolutely top class people. Both brilliant, humble, with admirable integrity. They make Spore proud of them. Prof Koh you are super amazing.
You invited the best and very well respected man to end this series. Voting for Tharman means having two brilliant minds to serve the nation. Good day ahead for Singapore
Mr Tharman has definitely raised the bar for future President potentials, we're very fortunate and should be celebrating the coming proudest occasion of Singapore.
Thumbs up, Joel for all the installments covering the PE2023. You are an eloquent presenter to your interviewees with your incisive questions and their insightful repartee made for an unpretentious dialogue.
Looking forward to more episodes!
No doubt the charm of Tharmans appeal. It is very heartening to know Sporeans hv elected the best candidate for our President. The intellect equal and mutual respect of Mr and Mrs Tharman demonstrate a formidable pair in the eyes of many many. No flaunting, no pretence and very-themselves. ❤
Great job guys! This podcast has a good team who did their homework to ask great questions, offer great thoughts and invite great guests. Also bravo to the interviewer who is so articulate, composed and respectful of others. He handled each interview session very well. I, as an older viewer, have learnt so much just from the content of this PE2023 political prude series! Keep up the great work!
Thank you Prof. T. Koh.. your generous words AND WORDS OF WISDOM.. yES THE singaporean has matured in voting for the person best suited to be the President.
A fair assessment by Mr Tommy Koh on all the presidential candidates. In my personal view, i also see a more matured electorate thru this Presidential election. Majulah Singapore.
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The population is really more educated in their thinking and these days, the vast majority care more about the character of the candidate than his race. We all trust Tharman 100% for his integrity, compassion, intelligence, his international stature that will bring glory to Singapore. His great asset is his wit and humility + of course his wife.
Excellent interview, thank you!
I really love the way how Prof Tommy Koh has described President Tharman as a someone who transcend race. This description sat really well with me because not once was I noticing his race but really how he could represent Singapore and fly our flag high internationally. I am looking forward to see what our new president bring to us and how we could all contribute as one Singapore.
Very engaging interview! Very skilful and objective questioning by the host. The flow and the though process was good. Professor Tommy Koh was very objective. Enjoyed this episode. Well done
Always so enlightening to hear from prof Tommy. Direct, clear and impartial.
Mr Tommy Koh you are a man who deal fair and know how to judge ?And your knowledge is powerful.
“She’s got a brilliant mind and a very good heart” ❤
Thank you for inviting Prof Tommy Koh. Always enjoyed his candid view on things. Also happy with the result of PE.
Finally got a pineapple puppet?
Prof Koh always has surprising but candid views.
Thanks for this quality content!
Prof Tommy Koh is always an outstanding diplomatic governmental representative, ambassador-at-large of our Singapore, forwarding our interests and goodwill with numerous countries around the world. It has also always from his friendly nature and diligence of political sciences engagements with foreign countries and governments, that make Singapore 🇸🇬 so well known and reputable ❤😂🎉. We are blessed to have Prof Tommy Koh as a Standing Man Of Cultured Diplomacy for our Singapore ❤😂🎉.
Prof Tommy Koh has given such an in-depth and informative analysis about Tharman being abled to be chosen as our new president, as well as the lost two presidential candidates’ performances during their individual campaigning.
Congrats to the host! very professionally conducted interview
I too feel very honored to have Mr Tharman to be my President. I urged the balance of the 30% Singaporeans to unite and see how things turn out before drumming out all the conspiracy theories .
First time seeing this podcast. I am impressed with this host. Well done, Joel Lim 👍👏👏👏
Host Joel Lim, you did well. Prof Koh was and is the same person, with diplomatic polish. EP Tharman must surely deliver based on the population understanding of his capability and his neutrality as most favoured EP. The People Association must come under EP purview to meet the unity and social cohesion agenda. Many had and will ask PA sincerity to serve the population at large without political partisan role. No doubt, Budget deficits are a no no but equally, Budget surplus is not governmental purpose to strive for. The National Reserves guesstimate is not useful and yet of concern for national security in fuller disclosure. I wouldn't tear my hair over finance semantics. Otherwise, a good job done by Joel!
Prof. Tommy Koh .. voice of wisdom !!
I pray the next generation produce men n women of wisdom who are able to steer this ship into a better phase .. peace , prosperity , a workforce w cutting edge in latest technology , a biz class thats world class.
Yes President elect Mr Tharman deserved what we feel of him
I am glad you guys came along to add sugar & spice with an Unbiased discussion with key folks like the PE candidates and Now Prof Koh, Thank you, team, Kudos.. I will keep watching this channel for more... I don't support MSM as we feel they are "puppets" of the incumbent government, Fortunately, I have access to many other media platforms to collate my own opinions of the Current Affairs situation. Keep up the good work and looking forward to GE for more sugar & spice.
Great interviewer
Well done Joel. Always said u have nice ears. Do change that plant behind you. Keep smiling. U r a fine lad. I voted for Tharman too. Visually more appropriate to have their photo on the wall I must say. In Jurong, I knew he did an excellent service to the people, in the arts community his wife made many great contributions. Without any doubt, the correct choice. Stay cool and all the best. U stay healthy, am following your unlimited talented progress. 👍
Prof Koh is one of the most respected person in Singapore
Absolutely!
I’m always at awe each time I hear Prof’s speaks.. jus love His analysis and his foresight from a real wise man. Well done Zyrup Media..💪🏼👊🏼👏🏻😘
I think Joel did a good job facilitating the podcast :)
I dunno about you guys, but I’m only 5 minutes or so into this video; and already I very much prefer Professor Tommy Koh’s analysis and views, as compared to that Eugene Tan.
I didn't watch the Eugene Tan one but YA MAN first time actually hearing Tommy Koh speak and I love what I'm hearing (I'm only 13mins in) - absolutely right. Haha on TKL he's like "I think the endorsement by TCB and TJS was counterproductive" - spot on good Sir, that was the moment I decided I was never gonna vote for TKL. Dudeee.
"You cannot judge a person's future performance on the basis of his past affliations" - love this. I hope this plays out well!
I'm at the 13min+ mark when he's talking about the Chinese guy who only vote for a Chinese candidate - "the percentage of 'Chinese chauvinists' .. is very small! Race is never irrelevant .. but PE23 shows us that race is not decisive" -- more eloquently than I could ever have put it hahaha but 💯 love this I agree.
The political prude is really good and informative!
I never saw Tharman as Indian...hahah.... He was just Tharman, a great candidate!
We need more of Prof Tommy Koh sharing his ideas 💡 ❤
I've only heard of his brilliance but this is the first time listening first hand and I love it 🎉
Cheers for the good work done so far.....Please continue your good work.
The best is yet to be! 🎉🎉🎉
Very well done and a good closure to this PE. Prof Tommy Koh is the perfect guest!
Intelligent questions and a rather insightful conversation. Nicely helmed by a competent host too! Just subscribed. Keep it up guys!
Love love Prof’s analysis
I am proud of the voters' choice that transracial, rational and wise. Proud to be a Singaporean!
13:05 Quote from Prof Tommy Koh: “Race is never irrelevant, but PE2023 shows us that race is not decisive, it is the MERIT of the candidate that is decisive.” Indeed, the electorate shows maturity and wisdom by giving their vote to the best candidate, overlooking his race. Tharman has lots of merit: integrity, character, stellar leadership, ministerial performance, global outlook & experience, and of course, his dignified wife Jane Ittogi.
I really enjoyed learning more about international politics from experienced perspectives such as Prof Koh. Please do more of these podcasts!
Very good indeed and very enlightened! Thank you!
good interview, thanks for sharing!
EXCELLENT WRAP UP! PERSONALLY I THINK THARMAN IS THE BEST CANDIDATE WE COULD HAVE MR KIM SONG AS AN AMBASSADOR TO ONE OF THE ASIAN COUNTRIES BUT HIS AGE AT 75 IS ONE OF THE NEGATIVE POINTS.
An excellent interview and dialogue . Hope you can conduct such top quality interviews in the future. Thank you
During the campaign, Tharman was asked for his views on the transport of foreign workers on the back of lorries. While not specifically tied to his "Respect for All" theme, Tharman's response was very hopeful. It would have been good to have asked Prof Koh on this matter, given Koh's own strong views on this matter :)
This is a very interesting show by the team . Thorough & well analysed by Prof on PE & the electorates.
Very impressive discussion
Congrats to everyone
The president elect & the electorates.
Amazing victory
❤
Very good interview . I really enjoyed it.
Most of our family and friends voted for Tharman based on the character of the man (and wife) and an endorsement of our trust in his abilities to be a good president. It helped that the other two candidates were somewhat disappointing in the public persona displayed prior to the voting.
The Hawker centres should a platform for the progress and for the good of the society. Don’t do it just during an election period but politicians should be available and seen on other days too (extra work, I know). Food for thought!
Very good discussion
Prof Tommy Koh is still excellent re[presentative ambassador for singapore with his excellent record of diplomacy. we thank Prof Koh for his outtstanding performance for Singapore
Tommy Koh,I wish to give you a book written by my gifted son.The title of the book: My Journey in Maths.He respected a lot .He told me before that only three persons in his mind can change the world. Three outstanding Singaporean:Tommy Koh, Tony Tan, and Lee Hsein Loong.❤
I did not know you spoke to Prof. Prof is an institution. I pray that Prof continues to be healthy and of sound mind. It is an academic treasure for the think tanks when Prof writes.
AMEN Prof Koh !!!
THIS is quality. Take off from here
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In today's socio-political environment, there's a pronounced fatigue among the citizenry over endless promises made by political elites and the undue politicization of race and ethnicity by a select elite. Above all, the collective yearning is for a leader who uncompromisingly champions the state's sovereignty, ardently works towards the unity of all Singaporeans, focuses on enhancing the welfare of every citizen, and fervently endeavors to raise Singapore's prominence internationally. Make Singapore great again 🇸🇬
Thanks Prof Koh. I was so sure TKL will secure his PE deposit, and equally sure he will not do well because that group minds that behind him. Most of us had have forgotten half of the voters are female, and Jane performed so well to mitigate Tharman trailing PAP shadow side effect. Tan Cheng Bock is pretty dumb to get involved in this PE even as personal capacity, his party should walk and comb the ground again and again in West Side of Sg. Alas, next GE will be tough for the ruling party, how they found someone like Tharman that really hold the ground well, and not always condescending with full of air.
Actually TCB's PSP members were activated to help TKL and were told to vote for TKL. They were also briefed to say they volunteered in their personal capacity if questioned 😅
Thank you so much for your nice Talking.may I'm share with you, I'm just share with public want them need .I'm done job with heart Clean.all is true Let public look👀✍👤
The Hawker centres are the places where our politicians should be seen more often, and offering the platforms for both sides ( the locals and the politicians) can hear each other better. Except one incident where Mr Ng KS had, generally the people would not do that. Of course, it’s not easy task, especially for the politicians. But, I am sure they can overcome that. Majulah Singapura!
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Waiting to see - after 14sep
I agree that Tharman's popularity transcends race, but it was also obvious how much effort he puts in to increase his "Chineseness" in his campaigning:
1. Use of chinese's liking of "Ong Lai"
2. Demo of liking of Chinese culture through calligraphy.
3. Having his Japanese-chinese wife flaunts her teochewness.
My point is while I agree that Race card is no longer decisive, we must not believe that the electorate is race-blind. Tharman's efforts to enhance his Chineseness tell us a lot.
Plus the fact his wife was very prominent and vocal in the campaign (compared to NKS and TKL). It was all very strategic moves by Tharman and his team to appeal to the Chinese voters.
Literally how all elections everywhere are done when there are constituencies to woo.
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If Murali could defeat Dr Chee, Tharman could take on TCB even if the latter had qualified to run.
Haha actually (as a Chinese) I felt it was a bit too try-hard lol. Even at a point where I asked myself, does he not care about his own ethnic group? (and yes I'm aware he's of Sri Lankan Tamil ancestry but for simplicity sake ok .. lol)
Anyway, for me I'll say I voted for Tharman cos (1) familiarity gave him the edge of course but (2) personally I was sold by the TDK interview where he showcased his portfolio as education minister very extensively and the impacts of those policies and decisions. In part also have the TDK podcast hosts to thank for asking good questions so that the convo could develop in a helpful manner. It was, to me, the best interview where the candidate was steered to be able to share their achievements and 'sell' themselves by elaborating on their KPI and such.
Most importantly, I envisioned who I wanted to see at eg. William's coronation if Charles really decides to abdicate haha. Not that I care that much abt the monarchy but more like I asked myself, who would I be most confident of representing SG abroad, that would make me proud to be a Singaporean.
That being said, I'm gen Y and I know people in both gen Y and boomer generations who voted for NKS!
Majulah Singapura 🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
❤🎉❤...
On race in this PE 2023....we are becoming less racists?
Correct. A compelling reason to scrap the reserved election for President and the GRC.
@@franciscody9622As a minority, I think it's too soon to scrap the GRC.
Actually, it wasn't so much of a surprise. 60++% of Singaporeans support the PAP government. So, a small percentage of those who support the opposition shifted to support President Tharman, that's added up to the 70.4%.
Oh. All the merit labelling that’s why seemingly high percentage I see.
What is voting percentage? Those who showed up and voted, or of all voting age Singaporeans’?
Does voting percentage include or excludes, those who didn’t bother to show up?
Does it include upon total, those who didn’t bother to “chop” on Any candidates(null vote)?
Anyone knows the true figures? Curious as I didn’t bother to be Involved.
Tommy should be president la
ok I haven’t watched this video yet, but I’m guessing that Tharman’s secret weapon is his wife Jane. Let’s see if I guessed correct.
The analysts presume that those who voted for Tharman did so because he was the best candidate. But it’s quite possible that a significant number chose him because he’s associated with PAP and is the most familiar face. I also saw many posting that they would never vote for NKS because he must have bad morals since his fiancé is much younger and they do not wish for his and Sybil Lau’s portraits in public institutions. These people may be a minority but I don’t think their numbers are insignificant.
For many professionals, the race thing is a function of ceca. It has been a very disturbing FTA that changed the professional labour landscape. And many people aren't sure what the actual benefits have been.
The benefits and fairness of CECA is indeed questionable, and we worry for our younger generations job prospects. Disappointingly no Minister or MP dare to call for a thorough debate or review of the benefits vs losses resulting from CECA FTA. We are also worried about the massive losses incurred in investments in India.
The best win simple....
TKL's social media manager is Iris Koh, a very bad decision on TKL's side
I think a short 1-week+ 'campaign' is quite the farce.
0:11: 🎙 The final episode of Political Prude podcast features an interview with Professor Tommy Koh, discussing the election results and what it means for Singapore.
4:36: 🗳 The video discusses the factors that contributed to the landslide victory of a candidate in an election.
9:00: 👤 Mr. Thurman is seen as a fierce and independent person who will not compromise his integrity in carrying out the duties of the presidency.
13:47: 😮 The issue of race is still present in Singaporean society, although it may not be as loud as before.
18:50: 🌍 Having a diplomat with high international standing is important for Singapore's connectivity and pursuing agendas.
23:26: 🏟 The speaker discusses the importance of championing volunteerism and injecting life into the football community.
27:53: 📱 Social media played a significant role in the 2020 elections in Singapore, with candidates using platforms like Instagram to reach a larger audience.
31:53: 🌍 Singapore faces challenges in a divided world but aims to be friends with both the United States and China.
36:41: 👥 The next Prime Minister of Singapore will be Lawrence Wong, who will work with President Taman.
Recap by Tammy AI
how did u goof up on dpm Wong being the next pm...lol... good podcast though
All the good words. Very normal. Stereotype. Yes, he is capable. Before the election, he still have current followers derived from his position and the continuous acknowledgement in the Singapore arena. May i propose to be fair to other candidates in the presidential election that any government political personnel holding ministerial position, who have the intention to run for the president position, to remove themselves from those position at least 5 years in advance. That will seem more fair to the other candidates.
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Yes, the voters are wise in choosing Tharman. Having said that, it is because the opposition TKL is not a strong candidate. He is known as a spoiler in the 2011 election. Still, he is able to increase his votes from 4.8% to 13.8% a 2.8 times increase. Imagine if Tan Cheng Bok were to be fielded a 2.8 times increase of his 32% in 2011 PE. The electorate wanted an opposition but at the same time a good capable president. If TCB or TJS were to be the opposition candidate, Tharman win would not be 70%, probably marginal.
Not many Singaporeans know that Tharman is well known internationally except maybe a small minority of atas aristocrats
All three candidates were chosen by the Lee Family. The Lee family wanted Tharman to be president.
Over 75% of overseas voters have voted for Tharman while less than 8% voted for Tan Kin Lian despite having support from guys like Dr Tan Cheng Bock, Lee Hsien Yang, Dr Chee, and others. As Professor Tommy Koh said, the 70% margin was shocking but not unexpected and this also goes to show that the vast majority of Singaporeans still demand high standards from politicians and presidential candidates and Singaporeans may also be fearful of politicians with ill intentions or hidden agenda may destroy the image and future of Singapore by promoting toxic politics and misinformation to confuse voters.
He should be the PM.
If the candidate was continuously serving the people and his constituency, he have the advantage of a number of supporters exist prior to the election. Hence the rule of eligible candidate should not be holding any political position for five years prior to the president election or submission of intention to stand for election. To be fair to the other candidate.
Must note that Tharman had more time to campaign because he knew from the outset he would qualify to run for EP.
Tharman had more than 20 years in politics. Singaporeans are very familiar with him. He has a great advantage over the other candidates.
We do need this kind of familiarity to lead us into the new industrialised world.
@@user-tj7sd9cy7n The EP is suppose to protect reserves and get top appointment to the civil service. He will not be part of the Governent setting policies.
He said it he is biased.
Interviewer lacks depth to probe further on Tommy Koh’s answers.. it’s not really a conversation, more like a list of Q&A to go through. But Singapore standard so still ok lor. 😅
Vote based on race is bu enlarged those new immigrants. My colleague is one of such.
It is good that Tan Kin Liang did not win, he is better as a opposition MP.
Tommy Koh one of those smart pap people unlike the rubbish people who call him and Tan Cheng Bock “traitors” immature and childish
Tharman did not show the Faults were, ignore it so that Many will do it -Fault- again. Keeping people Uninformed and Unaware ,and to Not learn from past Mistakes, is wrong. Our Lives are full of Negatives, face it and live it, or you go Heaven all things positive.
the secret ingredient is being an ACS boy
Haha is that in a good way, or bad