Did Abraham Lincoln really âfree the slavesâ?
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 29. 06. 2024
- On September 22, 1862, US President Abraham Lincoln issued the preliminary Emancipation Proclamation. Did this actually end slavery?
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Lincoln was a Unionist. He fought a war to save the union. The abolition of slavery was simply a by-product of this policy, and was never the main goal of his activities.
@Walker Dey bro then y was there segregation
he did want to abolish slavery but he did not necessarily want black people to be free, he just wanted the economy for the north and south to be equal and their representation in congress to be equal. he didn't care about black people
@adolf Hitler says the idiot đ€š
Lincoln absolutely cared about blacks and fought a war to end slavery. Lincoln started off with the main intention of keeping the country together while simultaneously trying to balance support for the war, and during! the civil war Lincoln made the war about freeing the slaves as well. The civil war started because democrats wouldn't give up their slaves and fought so vigorously to keep their slaves that democrats tried to start their own country, hence secede from the country đ§. The civil war was all about stopping the southern democrats from seceding and stopping their slave trade, they are one and the same issue đ§ And Lincoln made the war into both issues! If the democrats would have stopped slavery there would not have been a civil war đ§ but the south seceded before the country could start the 13th amendment to free the slaves. Lincoln made it clear during the war that when the Union won that slavery would be abolished as well. The whole situation was fluid and Lincoln geniusly navigated a country bitterly divided on such an important issue and time in our history đđșđž and then a demonicrat đż snuck up behind Lincoln and killed him for stopping slavery đ đ
@Adonis Johnson I guess you were there đ The History Channel who I give more credibility to than you says otherwise. You can add Ulysses S Grant to the list of white Presidents (both Lincoln and Grant Republicans đȘ) that cared about blacks at the time while demonicrats were creating the KKK đ§
Also, can we mention the fact that people who still believe in the âLost Causeâ will use some of these arguments in this reply section to further spread their Confederate Apologia?
Wasn't the reason he wasn't an out-right abolitionist in the first place, because he knew that if he told and showed people he was, then he would've been opposed by almost the majority of the people in power? I thought everybody knew he opposed slavery from the beginning. At the time, people weren't afraid of showing they were pro-slavery and for him to even be considered as a candidate for presidency, he would need to make seem like he was on the side of slavery like how a politician nowadays would hide the fact that he's actually racist to get that single chance of being elected into that seat of power that's gonna keep him paid. Anybody else thinking that?
Thatâs true; it wouldâve made the civil war far far worse than it already was.
He couldnât afford to do it.
Exactly he learnt early on to be tactical when speaking know your audience(deal in reality)or never get anywhere in election let alone chance to win.
If this was true it would have been shown in his personal letters, which it did not.
@@callmethreeone Probably right even though always strongly anti slavery Lincoln did not identify with the abolitionist label.
There would be clues
Again looking at history with 2020s eyes and morals you need to wear the shoes of the era 1850s Lincoln was a man of his time dealing with multiple complex issues he travelled both sides and changed himself and the world and it's values.
@jaizo Lincoln was a man of his time 1800s so he was not different from most who held up the constitution for all except minoritys despite this he was always anti slavery from early life a key factor.
@jaizo why do you think ammendments are added then? Use your head lol
I hate to break it to everyone, but this guys interpretation is not very good. You canât talk about the civil war or Lincoln without talking about âbleeding Kansasâ, John brown, the abolitionist movement, the âtax on abominationsâ, etc.
True there are so many avenues to go down so many factors at this complex period of American history free state of Jones,Indians tribes role ,the role of free slaves in union army,infighting within Republican party to remove Lincoln and so much more such a vast history subject etc how do you cover it all in a comment.
@@soundscapefusions3101 I just donât like this whole reductionist lie that people buy into - the idea that âthe civil war wasnât about slaveryâ is somehow cool or intellectual or counter-culture. In reality, thatâs the line of thinking everyone is fed in school and doesnât question because itâs presented as the âcorrect narrativeâ which goes in defiance of the âmainstream thoughtâ when just the opposite is true! Itâs not a counter narrative, thatâs the lazy mainstream narrative!
"I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races... "
- Abraham Lincoln
What a great man.
This is true, he wasn't a radical republican. He was a centralist and thought the compromise was treating all men fairly under the law, not argue that each race was equal but that they should be treated as such under the law.
It was a brilliant political stance that the south couldn't ignore.
Hey at least he was trying to free them before he died.
Bro can i have reference of it?
@Rick Wait, so your saying Lincoln is the same as the southerners who wanted black people enslaved?
@Geoff Kazuka How did Lincoln violate the constitution? Also, slavery wasnât being âfazed outâ before the civil war, the Confederacy was formed for the purpose of keeping slavery, and for a state to join the Confederacy, it must legalize slavery.
He was definitely against it. But he couldnât say it directly because of how fragile the country was. Even without him saying anything they tried to secede. Now imagine the chaos if he said he was ending it. People are sheep and you got to follow the popular opinion of the time.
What can you expect from a channel that is owned by Erdogan's govt.?
He was definitely for it he owned slaves he literally said he didn't care about slavery and offered the south to keep their slaves if they don't secede from the union. It and I repeat HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH SLAVERY. HE WAS A WHITE SUPREMACIST
@@nickolasphillips3776 He was no different than Jefferson Davis the Confederate president.
@@nickolasphillips3776 Youâre an idiot Abraham Lincoln never own Slaves once!
@@noskpain2792 thatâs absolutely disgusting and youâre an idiot for conflating Lincoln and Davis.
So basically ending a slavery was only a sideshow
It was just to make him look good in reality he didnât really care
Just helped him in the war.
Yep. Lincoln pretty much used people as his pawns
There would still be slavery today if it wasn't for him. It's pathetic to even insinuate that he wasn't for equality.
No
Funny how people in here finding out about THE TRUTH and start to doubt this man. THE TRUTH is that without him we wonât have today, let that sink in.
He was. Torn between what he wanted, what the country wanted, and what the founding fathers wanted, he did the best thing for the country & people as a whole. Imagine what this country would be like if he didn't make the decisions HE did.
@jaizo you keep saying this but what are you specifically referencing that is wrong? Free speech? The right to vote? A republic?
Wrong Abraham Lincoln was a horrible person, ushering the Age of Martial Law and US citizens being considered Enemies of the State. Well FDR passed that one, but Lincoln ratified the constitution to belong to the State and not the people, effectively making every person In this place a Slave. It turned the USA into a corporation.
Look up the truth of the matter by researching USA Corporation 1871
He forcibly arrested people who did not agree with him and unconstitutionally acted as a defacto dictator to the point he openly arrested opposing politicians and those who voted against him.
@jaizo7951youâre reading history wrong and applying 21st century standards. You look at history from a historical perspective or context, Lincoln simply couldnât get what he wanted and people back then didnât have a proper understanding of individual rights.
Lincoln was great- it's a problem for the haters- they have to find a way to hate him
Thank you for sharing what most likely is the TRUTH
I guess you support Confederacy and slavery, huh?
@@musicilya6674 Stand up comedy isn't for everyone........try again.
@@Apiranaturalfitness yeah yeah, confederate-slavery apologist. If you dislike Lincoln, then you're in favor of Confederacy and it's slavery.
@@musicilya6674 if you're pro Lincoln it just means you never did any research for yourself and just believed what you were told to believe n
@@Ozark-nq9uu If youâre truly pro-Lincoln you did a deep dive into the actual feelings and complexity behind Lincolnâs thoughts and everything he went through. The actions he did speaks louder than the writings he had to make to seem moderate so he could actually get work done behind the scenes.
Truth is stranger than fiction
I guess you support Confederacy and slavery, huh?
If hes so bad why did Martin Luther King Jr call him a great American hero?
It is trt
If Abraham Lincoln said that he believed that all black men and white men are created equal he wouldn't even elected president..
Political expediency and possibly ignorance......I love the ancestor but he also canonized another racist, Gandhi.
Thatâs because MLK was a government agent himself & was promoted to keep the melanated people calm and directed
Because MLK was only offered one side of his education, just like the mayority of americans. You don't see information that is shown in the videos on US' public schools.
While Lincoln's views on racial equality were definitely a lot more complex and shifted a lot more than history generally remembers, this video seems to downplay Lincoln's significant political contributions in the passage of the 13th Amendment. While the Amendment wasn't officially ratified until after his assassination, it was passed by the House back in January, largely because of the intense lobbying and pressure Lincoln exerted to secure the necessary votes (to a degree previously unseen by presidents in the legislative process).
While it is arguable (and likely) that the Emancipation Proclamation was intended more to win the war than to immediately emancipate slaves, Lincoln was pushing for the 13th Amendment when Northern victory was a foregone conclusion, meaning that he genuinely wanted to abolish slavery and wasn't simply acting in an effort to end the war.
There's a different and important discussion to be had about all the ways slavery managed to persist in the South even after the 13th Amendment was passed (sharecropping, the convict-leasing system, etc), but the 13th Amendment was undeniably a major step forward in the fight for racial equality and an achievement for which Lincoln is rightfully given credit. By modern day standards, Lincoln's views on race are certainly regressive, but in my opinion, winning the Civil War and passing the 13th Amendment are two major accomplishments that easily put Lincoln as one of the greatest US presidents of all time.
Very well said!
The only reason this video was made was because they wanted to downplay the idea of a republican doing good for black americans. Look at the date the video was posted, right before election time.
Thanks for stating this. I think it's easy to fall into the trap of minimizing how important the moral question of slavery was at the time in an effort to bring to light Lincoln's many failings. This 13th Amendment issue can't be minimized.
@@canadianturtle7240 REPUBLICANS OF THE 1800'S ARE NOT THE REPUBLICANS OF 20TH CENTURY. TO COMPARE THEM IS DISENGENUOUS.
Can you imagine this was the 1800s generations had been brought up to belive the slave system Was the norm and Lincoln comes along and wants to change the system,not only that fact he also needed a lot of these same people to vote for him to enable that change...
No he actually did not end slavery!
@Zak Patat and u call wives slave, look at the mirror
@Zak Patat No historical evidence/ references or proofs , it's really unfortunate that your knowledge is comparable to 1 or 2 videos on yt, let me *Educate* you where you went wrong the term slave in Islamic term means servant who's not superior or inferior to any human whereas in western term means inferior human. It's as simple as that and now I'll summarise it for you the knowledge regarding Islamic slavery and western slavery first of all the difference between these two is like sky and land the slaves in the islamic era weren't labours/tools/ exhibitionist whereas compared to west this is what slave is considered. a slave was a part of the family of one's owner comparable to a maid in Islamic era. Your knowledge is infact so minimal due to you not being able to understand arabic or farsi as most of the documents regarding slavery are not translated into English for simpletons like you. If you need to understand it first learn the native language of the middle east.
@Zak Patat đđđ Messed up again, you need to study what islam means and islam is not islam without humanitarian concept so dude Islam generates humanitarianism it's far greater than it , and it gives every human equal rights. That's why i said you to research the older documents of slavery in the middle east go get a translator and research on it. Don't give me bible/ torah/ or other religions I'm talking about the era of islam before British cononialism don't give me 17's 18's or 19's these eras where were the British and America's used to rule enforcing every country onto their laws. Remember Islam has no such thing as western slavery Islam has islamic slavery it's comparable to a normal job such as being a doctor or a blacksmith.
@Zak Patat Once again regarding your concept of Muslim trade that you speak of in Zanzibar let me *Educate* you once again there's no enforcement of slavery except for war prisoners /theifs / mischief makers or the use of violence or harsh treatments for the slave as it's haram (Not allowed) and the one who does haram is not in anyways affiliated with Islam or with the teachings of it.
@Zak Patat we don't have slavery. We freed them all.
You should not judge the people of old in modern light. This is unfair.
They were ahead for their times. Million times better then those who lead is today.
He was a pragmatist, he couldn't just force what he wanted while knowing the whole nation would oppose him, unlike Turkey, the US is a democracy. He worked hard to preserve the union and when the chance came, he ended the slavery.
You act as if you don't know how the government works.
Lincoln wasn't perfect. He was a man of his times. We're talking 1800s here... The important thing is he took steps in the the right direction. Seems his beliefs evolved over those civil war years. This is a man who visited a recent battlefield, met recently liberated slaves and told them they are equal and should always fight for equality. Also, if he only cared about reuniting the union, he could have ended the war much sooner. That war would not have ended without the abolition of slavery.
all these "hate comments" that are disagreeing with this whole video are the SAME people who clicked on a video titled "Did Abraham Lincoln really âfree the slavesâ?"
Really interesting, but could you, please, link us to your sources? Where did you get Lincoln's quotes from? It's nothing particular with the channel, I just think we should offer the possibility to go directly to the sources and, also, credit the people who gathered that information in the first. Thanks a lot for opening this debate.
You can do by yourself which is much more satisfying to do
@@Omar-ic3wc no thanks. i want someone to find it for me
@@Omar-ic3wc The burden of proof is on the one who made these claims. If he can't even put them in a pin comment or in the description, then he's probably lying about all of this.
@@dipperjr7696 why don't you debunk it then ? Call it lies but can't debunk.
@@dipperjr7696 prove him wrong then
Even if he didn't, I'm holding him fully responsible
African Americans should be grateful to Republicans.
Exactly, He probably said that he should tell the opponents of his move, those who were in the northern army, that this move is not only humanitarian, it is the right thing to do in terms of the fact that it will also benefit you.
@@NIcholasparker88 there shouldnât be âafricanâ in america
@@NIcholasparker88They should be grateful to Abe. Nobody owes anything to em.
Thanks to Lincoln fighting that war, they have the right to engage society in a fair and equal way. Republicans as a whole? Nah.
Neither democrats either. Hell, the democrats actively admitted to using them for votes
It is African in America
Keep in mind, people consider this guy to be the greatest president of all time.
He was a great president and more of a man than you will be
@@pistolwhip.4167 Thatâs mean. Why would you say that?
@@matthewlasalvia7026I mean did you wage a war on your own principles? One that resulted in huge social reform? Became a legend of history for freeing slaves?
@@pistolwhip.4167 Why the personal attack?
No president can just do what they want without support- he had to wait until the ducks were lined up, they he did it. He was great, in my view.
Thanks for showing the other side of so called 'Great' Abraham Lincoln
@Rick haha school is a brainwashing institution, it hardly teaches any true history.
@Ankit Tiwari alteast it doesn't teach to poop in the streets
@Ankit Tiwari
Your hate towards Muslims has only destroyed your nation...
@Ankit Tiwari shaka is teaching peace lol. STFU
@Abu Ashir because history portrayed him in that way
Glad im not the only one who came to this conclusion. By all accounts, from history books to popular opinion, the civil war was about freeing the slaves or slavery. Which is misleading, as we naturally connect the words together. But it wasnt. It had the look of virtue signaling of being about slavery. Which it partially was. But ask yourself, "What about the slaves??" After the war was over. What happened to the slaves?? The actual people were an after thought. They were a means to an end. The true motives like most things in this world were economics.
Remember Lincoln did not live to implement reconstruction his form of it would have been a slower better thought out process,instead of what actually took place which was a disaster.
Wrong on all points. Iâll try to type slow for you. Most people fighting for the North in the civil war did so because they wanted to end slavery. Thatâs not supposition, thatâs taken from careful analysis of the letters, memoirs, and diaryâs they left behind. Not to mention the literature and folk songs of the time like the battle hymn of the republic/John Browns Body. This was written for the civil war, because of slavery:
In the beauty of the lilies
Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom
That transfigures you and me;
As He died to make men holy,
Let us die to make men free;
While God is marching on.
Chorus
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
His truth is marching on.
@@frankiefrostie1 thanks for being insulting instead of enlightening or showing actual knowledge.
I will not acknowledge you with a response beyond what i previously wrote.
You truly dont deserve it
Frankie youâre so wrong lol
@@frankiefrostie1
Notice the references to Christ and salvation.
"Let us die to make men free" is referring to setting people free from the bondage of sin.
Not about human slavery.
I'm just wondering how many that responded to this is living in America .
If you want check person
real character give him power
Abraham Lincoln
I feel like he wanted to free the slaves but he wanted to stay president so he had to tell the people what they wanted to hear.
It's so obvious lol
It would be great if you understood how American government works. Lincoln had no authority to abolish slavery, period. He doesn't make laws because he can't. Only Congress can make laws, which is known as the Legislature branch of government. Lincoln only had authority to issue Executive Orders (EO), which all presidents do and have done. The Emancipation Proclamation had a fancy name for an EO but it wasn't a law. The 13th amendment like Corwin amendment could not be approved by Lincoln, as the President, who is head of the Executive branch of government, cannot veto an amendment, only laws. He had no say in passing the amendment. He signed it, but it was only ceremonial. The whole question is moot about him ending slavery, since he couldn't do it.
The cherry picked quotes passed around from debates make him sound like he was on the fence. He wasn't. He wanted to end slavery. But the only path to the white house was through republicans in his party that weren't sure about ending it, as opposed to the smaller electoral college votes from the abolitionist sides. Abolitionists can sound as uncompromising as they wanted, since they were not running for president. It's an unfair comparison. Lincoln wanted to not to instigate northern Democratic whites by stating freed blacks slaves were equal, as that would insight the still largely bigoted Democratic Northerners to incite falsehoods that Lincoln would bring them up north and steal their jobs. Did you actually read about the 1863 White Irish Democratic riot in New York City where they went out and massacred black Americans in NYC. That was Lincoln was up against. You could not run on a pure anti-slavery ticket, even though he was clearly anti-slave. He saw it incompatible with the principles in the Declaration of Independence. Read that earlier speech and writing.
Slavery was Constitutional
@@SandfordSmythe Thatâs correct, and Iâm glad you spotted my point. Slavery became Constitutional by the Exception Clause in the Thirteenth Amendment. From the technical side, the word slavery appeared for the first time in the draft of the thirteenth amendment and then ratified in December 1865, after Lincoln died. It transformed the Constitution into a document that now contained slavery instead of getting rid of it. A very ironic ending to the war no?
@brenkelly8163 Slavery under the codes of the difference states was Constitutional, as it was accepted by the Constitution although not by name. Lincoln or Congress could not challenge that. I think too much is made out of the exception of slavery in the correctional system. I'm not even sure it could exist legally under the cruel and unusual punishment clause. I'm sure there were many angles to this wording.The war accomplished a lot in this area.
I thought he was a vampire hunter đ€
Lmaooo shut up. đ€Łđđ
there is a reason why Vampires are said to have pale skin...
He had to abolish it to accomplish his goal
Very good research. Thanks for sharing the true of face of white colonization.
You are being brainwashed by watching this propaganda channel hehe
Then what do you gain by calling someone racist
Did your income increase?
@@nightfury2472 dear we are just agreeing the true history thats all. Lies and treachery, thats what america is made upon.
@@saleemosmani5936 True history.... in a 7 min video. Lol. America was made on 1 hour and 30 min documentaries ;-).
Next, do a piece on did mohammad really freed the slaves?
@Bergr B
Please bring source to your claim.
The workforce division has always been there in societies. Caste isn't Indian word or has any semblance to reality.
Slavery in India? You must be kidding, right?
@Bergr B
We don't see them as 'khalay', whatever that means. You're a racist for saying it out loud, discriminating people based on their skin colour, just like mohammad called Ethiopians raisin heads.
We have had President, Prime Ministers, scientists, head of ISRO, DRDO from Southern India. Much of the CEOs of silicon valley are from Southern India. Take your head out of the other end of your body.
No
You hit the right 3 words, The Corwin Amendment.
Great video
None of this changed the actual answer to the question, which remains yes.
He still signed it !!!
thank you. i hate it when people make him seem like this amazing god.
Iâm seriously shocked with this information. I never knew this.
@@samtheman1037 itâs all true tho.
Yes, he is a goat. Was he perfect no, no he wasnât. He ainât god. He did lay stepping stones towards it even after his death, in a time when we were all still sophisticated savages.
Don't look at historical events such as the Civil War with a 21st century viewpoint, realize it was a different time meaning different values, beliefs and ways of thinking.
We must not look back at people of the past and judge them or denounce them as evil just because they believed or did ignorant things that weren't considered ignorant back then.
And no I'm mot trying to defend slavery or racism but just accept its the way the world was back then. Just be glad it's not the one we live in now.
They knew better, there were quakers and abolitionists as well as African Americans fighting against slavery back then, so there was no excuse for owning slaves
@@angelalunsford4546yes but this video and many people forget that abolishing slavery was very unpopular back and Lincoln had to play a balancing game.
i see why lincoln got shot to the face
Good now recognise the Armenian genocide
The emancipation proclamation only freed slaves in states currently in rebellion which left out W.Virginia, Conneticut, New Jersey and Kentucky ( under military occupation).
That's all he had authority over then.
He didnât have congressional approval to do that, you guys donât see his genius.
When did slaves in Union states such as Delaware and Missouri receive their freedom?
13th prison=slavery never ended in addition to the emancipation proclamation technicalities.
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i was doing a research project on his real thought on slavery and this was my most helpful source. thank you!!
Why am I not surprised?
He did not free us. We freed ourselves. Gullah Warriors. They don't want us to know about this. We fought & WON. LOOK UP GULLAH WARRIORS
Abolitionists freed black people
Are you really going to condemn a person for thinking of an idea to solve slavery in America. Just because he thought of sending slaves back to Africa doesnâtât mean he would of or could of. So donât condemn a man for thinking of different ways to solve an issue. Be a human for once when studying history. And understand people are complicated.
2:15 The last part sums up why US has social & instability.
This video takes Lincolns quotes WAY out of context.
Like if you were in space and were trying to shoot context which is on Earth, you would hit Pluto you are so off.
Lincoln had to play with the politics at the time. He already had a draft of the Emancipation Proclimation at the ready for ther right time. Slavery was a divisive subject at the time so he had to be careful with his words. Had he downright said he would abolish spavery right then and there, he wouldnt have been voted president.
@@degamispoudegamis Agnostic towards slavery but for political gain?
@@degamispoudegamis He was only for power.
I'll say Abraham Lincoln did the right thing by ending slavery one good credit and he did sign the emancipation proclamation but still I don't know his abolitionist?
I mean no,
â *except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States* â
Iâll take a politician with good outcomes over one with bad outcomes
Nicolas M no one is perfect and we will never have a perfect president. Only ones filled with flaws and who make many mistakes. I believe freeing slaves was a righteous decision no matter.
Ahhh Iâm so very happy to hear that people are beginning to SEE
4:44 we always heard that and thought was a good thing, guess we were wrong
I just clicked the video and haven't watched yet. But I hope he ain't actually the bad guy. I would hate it. I have great respect for him. But after watching, I don't know, what my view will be.
Turns out he was a tyrant who ordered the murder of thousands, destroyed newspapers critical of him, imprisoned citizens for criticizing him or not openly supporting him, exiled political critics, and used "freeing slaves" as a battle tactic. Completely trampled the constitution, and when judges ruled he didn't have the power to do such things, he would have them imprisoned or worse. Directly ordered the killing of civilians by use of his "bummers"
abraham lincoln thought slavery was wrong, but didnt think black and white people were equal
That was the common thought then.
Why is this even a question?
He did not invent the light bulb. He did not compose the Bohemain Rhapsody.
And , he did not free the slaves.
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God America would be a paradise today if Lincoln would have followed through on his plan.
WE WISH HE DID TOO. PARADISE IN THE MOTHER LAND!
John Wilkes booth ruined it all for whites
So I was in the south, and I was listening to this southern radio which was played all over the country. When the talk hosts got on they were talking about racism in general and how they were devoted white supremacists. This was when Obama was in power, and near the end of the talk one of them said "I can't believe we're going to be kissing blackies butts!"
He was politician, he had to play his cards carefully, Do the piece on Armenian genocide
Yes he's The Great Emancipator đ
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Obviously he had to say all of this because he was running for office and couldnât risk losing voters. But he was definitely an abolitionist and believed equality to some degree, which was a lot for the time.
Obviously that's not true
nope, whats true is what he said.
@@nickolasphillips3776 Lincoln's presidency saw the end of slavery; his mere election launched a rebellion against his nation to protect slavery, and he refused peace terms that didn't include its abolition.
I love how so many people love to point out some quotes from Lincoln, very early in his political career and paint the entire picture of the man from them. As if I could take old posts from your Facebook and twitter feeds and make broad generalizations about who you are as a person today. Unfortunately so many people have never truly researched who he really was. And in todayâs society, we donât acknowledge a persons right to learn and grow and change ones ideals or beliefs.
Yes Lincoln at one time believed in ending slavery by recolonizing slaves back to Africa. Yes he also believed early on that whites were mentally superior to blacks. As well as roughly the entire south and almost every person in the north. He was not a well educated man. He was a product of his surroundings. Indigenous cultures in Central America once believed that sacrificing babies to appease their gods was an okay thing. Yet we donât demonizing these cultures. Simply because they were a product of their time.
Lincoln, over the course of his life, presidency and coming into contact with the likes of Fredrick Douglas began to understand the quality and worth of African Americans as an equal member in our society. Equal to a white in rights and liberties in every way. The man grew and learned from his past and his mistakes. Something I can see from reading the comments that very few here have ever done.
He was a politician in the most divisive time in our countries history trying to appease the northern populace in a losing war that wanted nothing more than to make peace with the south and maintain slavery. While running for reelection against a former union general and northern democrat running on the premise of making peace with the confederacy and winning in the polls at that time. Imagine how this country would be today if he took that approach. We sit here now and praise the likes of Biden or Trump for doing the same thing he did yet, in the middle of a civil war. He needed to appease those who didnât oppose slavery in the north. He needed to appease those who wanted this bloody war to end. He needed to appease union slave owning states from defecting to the south. People love to quote his letter given to a paper in which he stated if he could save the union without freeing a single slave he would. It was a political move. He needed support from a populace that had little interest in shedding so much blood for supposedly ending slavery. Mind you also just prior to this there was the New York Irish riots (a Union state) in which they killed, linched and burned hundreds of African Americans until the Union army was sent in to quell the unrest. He somehow needed to maintain support from those wanting slavery to end and those in the north who had zero interest in the issue of slavery. Everyone is so quick to demonize a man when not a person here could give a better solution to this countries most difficult time.
Do some more reading, on Lincoln, on Fredrick Douglas. On some of the greatest researchers on this man. Stop picking one liners from the manâs life and claiming itâs who he truly was till death.
And for those who I know will inevitably make the claim he only ended slavery to win the war, there were slaving owning states who actually fought for the union side and did not defect to the confederacy. Once the war was over Lincoln would have had no need to abolish slavery in the union friendly states. He could have simply freed them from the south, won the war and ended the matter there. He did not because as he said it âin giving freedom to the slave, we assure freedom to the free-honorable alike in that we give and what we preserve. We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope on earth.â
Come on....He gave his life with the decision to free the slaves. You are looking this courageous act from today's mindset.
Yes he did
This Abe Lincoln video characterize generations of one set of people dictating the movement of others without legitimacy, and such attributes inherented by present day provocateurs.
He is the best
Well what do you expect, Lincoln is no Zabit.
He fought for land more than slaves
Now I get it.
Counseled
Cassius clay was more of an anti-slavery politician than Lincoln.
Taught my 7&8 year old this bc he wasnât great
He did What he thought. Was right but Slavery continues under multiple concepts
whos here for a assignment from social studies.
Here for my 11th grade history debate :P
Been telling people this for years! And get called a stupid ignorant racist in return for it.
If they was serious about no more slavery the 13th amendment would say no slavery at all for any reason no exceptions
Work was part of the penal system.
@@SandfordSmythe no duh captain obvious the problem with the 13th amendment is that it says it's okay to put black people back in slavery if you call them criminals then they make up laws to lock up black people en masse want proof look at how they reacted to crack era vs how they react to the current opioid "crisis" saying they can't arrest their way out of this problem
@@creepyjimcrowjoebiden9293 It said nothing of the kind.
@@SandfordSmythe Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
That's what it says like I said before if they really wanted to get rid of slavery it would've said no slavery at all for any reason and the prison system makes billions off that free labor with convict leasing
@@creepyjimcrowjoebiden9293 You deleted the comment, I referred to. And stop this silly nonsense.
If America is so vocal about slavery.. then why donât they speak out against current slavery in the Middle East around the world?
America first
Twisting the facts...without lincoln, slavery could stayed for another 50 years. He is great man who sacrificed lot to achieve what he achieve.
He's not twisting the facts, he's giving the whole picture. Yes, Lincoln abolished slavery, but he was definitely an average racist man morally and typical of it's time unfortunately. We as Americans, that we are more aware of this topic more than back in the 1860's, should appreciate what Lincoln has given us and what to avoid for our future.
Yes
Then John Brown is the real guy?
These people conflate slavery and racism. Slavery is primarily a politcal-economic issue racism is a biological a political issue.
i dont like abraham because i feel like it
The Emancipation Proclamation only applied to the Confederate State, and Abraham Lincoln didn't have jurisdiction in those states, which was the reason for the war.
The EP was after the war started. Lincoln issued it after he made many offers that he would allow slavery if the South put down its arms. He considered them part of the US.
And I have reason to believe the Stephen Douglas DID NO look like that đŻ
The war had nothing to do with slavery and he cared nothing for them . He was a typical lawyer, the lowest form of life .
Look at the slave laws for traveling and look at the laws now a days for all people with drivers license. Then tell me he made change
Tbh I think Lincoln is like Itachi Uchiha, who helps the world while letting the people/world think he is a "bad person". But in the end, those who can read between the lines will know that these guys are legends who work/operate in the shadows.
@John John Ever stepped out of your city bubble
You just compared a U.S president to a Japanese Manga/Anime character, I'm done đ
is it a wrong idea that slavery was only a mean to bring more power to the people with industry and capital over the people that worked the land? sounds like the first steps for capitalism, why didn't the industry develop better tools for the camp in exchange of free the slaves? why they didn't balance the economy with taxes for imported goods so the locals didn't loose capital? At the end there were two kind of slaves, those that worked the land and those that work in the industry
Facts!1
the Buffalo Soldiers free the Slaves
They were called buffalo soldiers because they were sent out to kill all the Buffalo to starve the Indians
Thank you for taking the huge risk of telling the truth.
Duh- 10 cent scholar here- duh-
@@normanspurgeon5324 what does that mean?
Oh iza miss massa, good ole abe was gud white folk
He sign the E P in 1863 .. we love him he made the first steps to end slavery. We love Barack and V President Kamala...
Finally...
South won that battle I wouldnât been slavery too in this year
Did you know John brown hated Lincoln