Quick Tip: Torque Specs for Action Screws
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- čas přidán 13. 12. 2022
- If you're looking for a little action today, Steve and Caleb are talking about something that's important for anybody who's changed a rifle stock or even just removed a stock when cleaning the rifle. The torque specs for tightening action screws really have nothing to do with the action. They're all about the STOCK you're installing the action into. For example, over-torquing the action screws on a Savage rifle can make the action lock up. So what's the right amount of torque for a Savage action? That depends on the stock you're putting it into! Overtightening the action screws on another rifle like a Remington 700 or Howa 1500 can damage the stock, which will mess up your rifle's accuracy.
An old-fashioned all-wood stock may take only 30 inch-lbs. Modern synthetic stocks with aluminum bedding blocks often take 60 to 65 inch-lbs. of torque. A synthetic stock without an aluminum bedding block may come in the middle of that range. Where do you find the correct torque spec? Check with the manufacturer of the stock. For a factory stock, check with the manufacturer of the rifle. When in doubt, go easy on the torque. Over-torquing is much worse than under-torquing. And take it easy on rimfire rifles. You don't need to crank on those action screws to keep a .22's stock and action firmly connected. - Sport
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Not sure if you guys have a page on you website that covers torque specs, but man...that would be super useful if you started one and kept adding to it over time. Not all the manufacturers, but the general recommendations and a few common brands (like the 1022 you referred to). Truly one stop shop. You get great gear and knowledge. Thanks gentlemen and Merry Christmas.
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An informative video! Great takeaways on the various types of stock materials. Thanks
on my 10/22 I experimented with different torque (10, 15, 20, 30 in/lb) and all gave different kind of accuracy and group size. Some other guns may not be very sensitive to this.
Guys,
As always, informative while staying concise.
Many thanks... Pete
An old neighbor and friend Bob, known in the firearms industry as Robert Dunlap taught me this many years ago. I give this advice to folks regularly.
God bless!
As always good info guys
Some rifles are very sensitive to this, others not as much. It can be an important tuning point, depending on your application. It's all about application. The BAR Mk 3 can be very sensitive to the front stud torque.
I learned that when I took the stock off my Ruger 77/357 for cleaning that the magazine would not feed properly unless the stock was torqued exactly to manufacture specs. It still has never feed more than 3 rounds in the 5 round magazine without jamming and causing dents in the brass.
Very important and agree. “When in doubt, sell the tech manual regarding torque specs. Semper Fi
Really informative! Thanks
You just answered a question I didn't know I should ask. Thank You
HOWA/Weatherby timber stocks are also quite sensitive to over-torquing of action screws. They can bing the action right up. Found this out the hard way.
The best example I've seen on this is on a 10/22. Changing the torque on the stock screw can change the group size pretty good.
yes because of the slip-fit barrel and weak receiver. You can literally bow a 10/22.
You guys are great! Semper Fi
Good information, how the stock itself , construction dictates the proper toque . Very interesting. Thank you 😊
good info to know.
Reached out to CZ years ago about my 527 Varmint MTR which has a wood stock = no anwer from them! So, I have the action screws torqued at 30 lbs. Wondered if I was in the right ballpark for torque.
Much appreciated guy’s 👍
Keep up the good content gents. I have a few mini 14’s just wondering your opinion on torque for gas block?
Thank you for the info I've got the same type wood stock on a 1903 Springfield and scared to tighten it because it's a different stock style then original.
Conflicting torque specs from scope manufacturer and ring/ base manufacturer. DNZ for example recommends 35 inch pounds on ring screws but vortex says don't go over 18 inch pounds.
Last week I brought home a new Ruger M77 Hawkeye Hunter (walnut stock). I always disassemble new firearms and clean and inspect them. When it came time to re-assemble I began thinking about action torque specs. So I got out the manual and lo and behold the torque specs were listed on a separate yellow page. 95IP for front screw and 45-60 incrementally torqued for the middle and rear screws. Seems excessive for a walnut stock but thats what I did.
Mossberg patriot rifles will split down the middle of the mag well if torqued past 15 pounds. Ask me how I know lol
doh!!!!
Even more so important with scope and base screws. It is very easy to over or under torque those. Which can easily lead to bad accuracy or ruining a high dollar scope because it got crushed in a ring. Torque specs are important whenever dealing with firearms. If you ever find the torque specs for your X rifle in Y stock, save them everywhere. Last thing you want is that company go out of business and you have no one to contact when you change a stock.
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Hi nice video do you have a video on how to measure center screws action for a replacement stock
I have probably calibrated over a thousand torque wrench and torque drivers in my career but calibrating them is sometimes pointless when you watch people actually use them. Many don't torque at the calibration line, or they torque at an angle, or they use the torque wrench below 20 percent of range, many wrenches intentionally won't graduate the bottom 20 percent (no zero) just to keep people from doing that. But I must confess, when it comes to home projects, I am probably just as guilty about grabbing a wrench or socket and just torque by feel. Whether or not I can judge torque better than most is irrelevant, it is still wrong and can cost you a head or an expensive firearm. Oh and stay away from KB tools, I routinely fail them brand new, right out of the box...entire batches were red tagged and NRTS out.
Can someone help me understand how torque can affect precision? I know that some of guns are very sensitive to that. I fail to understand how it can become less precise if you torque within the spec both times?
What about the Ruger M77 with the angled action screw? I've read they require as much as 95 in/lbs. to properly bed the action. Anyone have experience ? True/false?
well , I have a lnib Marlin xl7 synthetic stock. Contacting the manufacturer will be difficult, any general spec for a pillar synthetic stock of this rifle?????
I loosing the action screws on my old wooden Milsurps stocks so not to mash down the wood over time .. Do others do this cause I was told to do this many years ago MB ..
Action torque is unique to every rifle. I've played w harmonics and group size by just changing torque. Kinda like a cheap man's barrel tuner
mossberg advised that the synthetic patriot torque as 25 inch lbs.
Why don't you guys who work for Brownells put together a spec chart from the different manufacturers and their stocks?
The amount of torque is also limited by the size of the screw. I always use a torque and follow the rifle maker's instructions. Sometimes there's an exact procedure for tightening the screws.
Savage 110 recommends 38-40 inch pounds.
Lando did the right thing
You also need a reliable torque wrench.
And use a quality torque wrench.
Are these two father and son?
Nope
Even his hair is torque to spec 😂
I never used the word cheap describing a product. I always said inexpensive.
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Why not just state the specs--- afraid???
Worthless video IMO