USA: Please Stop Shutting Down Race Tracks
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 2. 06. 2024
- Cleetus McFarland and his Freedom Factory, Irwindale Speedway with their bankruptcy, and Atlanta Dragway have all gone through the same fear; getting shut down. As the motorsport community continues to change and adapt, the days of 70 year old tracks are dying. So what's the future of tracks and is it any good?
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0:00 Intro
1:00 Freedom Factory's Residential Problem
1:50 Do Race Tracks Make Any Money?
2:15 The History of Racing
3:30 The First Race Track EVER
4:00 The Expansion of Race Tracks
4:30 The Initial Downfall of Tracks
5:50 The Future of Race Tracks
7:45 Will Cleetus Mcfarland's Track Survive?
8:15 The Cost of Being A Car Enthusiast
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I will miss the days of drag strips with vending machines that look like they came out of Fallout 3 and the luke warm fries that were $4 to be replaced with $19 Miller Lites and $24 chicken tenders but hey, I guess we'll take what we can get, right? đ„Č What do you think about the future of tracks? Let me know below!
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I think the main problem is that the food is medicore. Get some veterans in there and people will love their sense of patriotism
Or we could just go unto the streets again
In my hometown they built houses next to a train track that is in use and even though the people who bought those houses had to drive over said tracks now complain about noise from the train especially because the train uses itâs horn at crossings for you know safety purposesâŠ
I mean carolina dragstrip/dragway (formerly Jackson dragway) has a food shack and that place is pretty good I think coffee and cars Host a car show there like every 3-4 months I think (you gotta remember coffee and cars do a car show the first Saturday every month if it not a holiday I believe)
@King Hachiroku I don't have a local track so its all streets here
It feels like we're in this cycle where housing developments are put in next to racetracks, leading to noise complaints, leading to the track being shut down, leading to everyone taking to the streets for racing, leading to those same people who were complaining about noise now complaining about the street racing and "why don't they take it to a racetrack".
Then now we get a Need For Speed Real Life edition. Its funny the world we live in.
You nailed it. This.
In Germany we have max noise levels for public trackdays driving. They measure noise levels. In Danmark I saw that too. On padborg racetrack they have a shed with microphones đ hey drive a little slower otherwise they will shut down the track for an hour. Than your decibal tank is empty.
And hold on. Some motorcycles are too loud to even drive there... But they are streetlegal. On the street the max volume is not important until you make noise on purpose than you will have complaints and maybe fines. I mean motorcycles will not be measured at rev limiter for legalisation purposes. But this is too loud on most tracks.
True
Yup, been happening for decades. All cause a couple morons move in 40+ years after the tracks been there
"NOOOO YOU CAN'T RACE CARS ON THE STREET!!!!"
"Well we'll race them legally on a track then."
"NOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT EITHER IT'S TOO NOISY!!!!"
Beeett...
Karen's are the worse wastes of life
Whoa jack behavior, fuck them
Oh yeah?
Then do something about it, Weakling!!!
I can understand why the race cars on motorsports like F1, WRC, Indycar, and NASCAR got so quiet because of the complaints. Damn karens.
Itâs really sad. Shut down the safe and isolated places and street racing explodes.. resulting in crazy ass accidents, damage to property, and loss of life. Itâs as if safety is not paramount đ€
and then people complain about sideshows and takeovers in their neighborhoods weeeee
Do we think there's a future? Or do you? I'm interested to know if there will ever be an affordable alternative if all the old school tracks get shut down.
I doubt there will be an affordable alternative. My only thought is to build tracks deeper in the outskirts, but how long will that last?
@@Gtotheyo my nearest track (thatâs affordable) is almost 3 hours out. Every time I plan to go itâs a logistical nightmare. My friends and I make do but itâs not really a realistic alternative.
@@jonccwong damn thatâs a mission
Maybe eventually people will realize that the death of race tracks is terrible for the general population because us motorheads will just do it on the street if we can't do it in a "controlled" environment. Yes, there are already people that do this, but it will get far worse if tracks are shut down.
NC gang.
Would be kinda cool if street racing became more mainstream but then cops would also be cracking down on it more
Turn this shit into nfs rivals, going 220 down the freeway in a Ferrari Enzo
Nyc is literally fast and furious
@@SakugaAsu street racing is a terrible idea, more accidents, less safety, more cops out on the street, car brands might even stop making sports cars for the people
In my city our racetrack got shut down in the early 2000s and got turned into a landfill. Now 2 decades later the cops are going around shutting down the remnants of all those who lost their outlet, not even racers, just people doing burnouts in industrial area back alleys late at night and bringing business to coffee shops that would stay open for these unnofficial weekly events. It's fucking sad.
Sounds like LACR
@@Gtotheyonah, this was Race City. Shitty to hear it's not the only one that happened to
People don't understand that race tracks gives to the community a lot of money.
@@ReddList Same happened in Ottawa with Capital City Speedway.
Reason why cops canât be trusted. They work for the state.
People are just going to have to take it to the street I guess.
Pretty much what I got from this was âpeople are dumbâ. I canât really get into it without going over the obvious. So Iâll just say that this is insane. âNormal peopleâ I feel like they just want the car enthusiast to die almost. Itâs like âoh we donât want you street racing because thatâs dangerousâ. So that only leaves the track which they complain about being to noisy(despite coping with trains and the like which are equally if not more noisy). So itâs just this loop and well with take overs being more mainstream itâs arguably worse then itâs ever been. Itâs just unfortunate really since itâs a hobby like anything else but it probably gets the most flack(at least from what Iâve seen). I could go in circles about it but you get it.
@@sparkcore7257smart words this guy
Like they did in the old days
Let's hope something off-street comes in that's affordable, easy to get to, and will allow us to keep enjoying the passion.
Swim team â€ïžâ€ïž
Not even lying, I'd love to live close to the constant drone of reving motors. Beats train horns, airplanes screaming, and highway noises.
it's also not like the tracks are going 24/7 with full activity.
I'd imagine it's super busy during events, sorta busy during the weekends and almost dead during the week and certainly not going during the night.
meanwhile an airport or highway is gonna be noisy and busy around the clock especially if the people who used to be on the track now start to take their fun to the street
Especially the sound of cars racing down daytona
i'd actually fall asleep with the roar of some distant V8s every night, like a soothing lullaby
Iâd live close to an airport or a racetrack. I love hearing both!
@@kuma_score7536 only cause of stupid regulations.
This isn't just a race track problem. This happens to gun ranges and gun clubs too
How often is it happening these days?
@AlexMartini it depends on the area. In the Charlotte NC area, there are only 1 or 2 out door ranges within an hour drive. The regulations on indoor ranges are pretty extensive, so we have less than 10 or 15 across the city and surrounding towns.
Airports too.
@@jeast417 I have to drive almost an hour even for an indoor range. No outdoor ranges for country miles. The only gun I can shoot in my own back yard is a shotgun, because there are neighbors behind us. If not, I could put bullets into the hill their house is on and it'd be pretty safe for people that live a half-mile or so behind us.
@@AlexMartini. We used to have 4 rifle ranges in my county back in 2012 when I got out of high school.
There are now 0 public rifle ranges. You can pay for handgun shooting at some indoor ranges but it's insanely overpriced. Or you pay another monthly fee for limited range access at one of two clubs.
There is nowhere to shoot for cheap or free anymore.
it's happening here in NZ too, people will move to houses next to a race track that's been there for longer than they've been alive and they have the audacity to complain, my guy, you made the choice to move there
Rip pukekoe
And they make the streets less safe vy removing the tracks, they will just start taking racing to the streets
@@smolltaco5667 So then they ramp up policing to insane levels until you get sent to jail and your car crushed for doing a burnout, while the vast herds of current thing supporters, who would have been borderline gearheads themselves up until the early 1970s, bark and clap like trained seals to thank Mother Government for keeping them saaaaaaaaaafe.
And look at the hassle's Tony Quinn had establishing the Highlands track in Cromwell .
In the UK there's a legal precedent that the establishment that was there first has priority. That would end most of the incidents mentioned in this video in moments.
I live in Hawaii. I dreamed of building a drift car. I ate ramen and saved up for years to build my S13 with the help of Forest Wang, Ross Petty and Steven Oliverâs. And we did it! 380hp, externally gated drift missle. It was so much fun! I got ONE event before the track suddenly closed down in 2005. Ive missed it so much ever since. Iâd give anything to have access to a circuit again.
Is there no other options on the island?
@@AlexMartini. I grew up in Oahu. But I live on Maui now. Thereâs a drag strip here and an autocross but no circuit. As far as Oahu goes thereâs some autocross and thereâs talk of building a circuit but I donât know how serious or credible it is.
Those guys are so badass đđđ tell me you still have the car at least
@@AlexMartini. It's an island bro, no that specific island probably doesn't have any.
@@JDMHMONGBOY96one of my biggest regrets was selling that car. I REALLY wish I still had it.
I spoke about this in my local forum. Home of California speedway. They complained so much about the noise and pollution of the racetrack. And theyâre now replacing it with warehouses. The race track is used on the weekends only during the summer. Warehouses have pollution from vehicles from workers and trucks 24/7. And I can tell you those trucks are a lot more noisy than the racetrack.
Rip fontana
@@626foo yup, itâs ridiculous, leisure should be a big focus on any community, they care more about revenue rather than people enjoying things, theyâre going to expect people to just work in fontana and nothing else.
@@mynameisrits all thatâs left is irwindale man catch me there Thursday but ainât no way im going clear to Bakersfield for a quarter mile track its Bs
@@626foo exactly, and they wonder why people street race.
@@mynameisrits man ill support street racing if it means theyâll open tracks back upđđđ
There was an older couple who used to live near us. They were a gearheads and they loved being so close to the track. But after they moved to Florida (this is in Wisconsin btw, so cold winters) this new young couple moved in and they were nice, but they kept complaining that i was too loud and im pretty sure they wanted the track shut down. (This track is Road America, literally the best road track in the country imo) And when the annoncement came that NASCAR cup series wouldnt be coming here (horrible decision but we do get the xfinity seris) they celebrated with a "wild" party, that no one went to.
I have a hard time seeing a track as big and famous as Road America being shut down. But the local dirt tracks around the same area are at risk.
@@class1xgames599 yeah that's true like the Milwaukee mile always gets hit hard year after year
@@benmcchain787 I can't wait to hear the complaining this year when the trucks come back đ
I would pay extra to live that close to a race track. I would love to move to Slinger and live right on the speedway doorstep. I already drive 40 mins there every Sunday, might as well make the trip shorter
Aw you live close to Road America!? Lucky! I have about a hour and a half drive to get up there.
It is a great track though! I finally have a car suitable for a track day now, so Iâd love to take it up there. Just not sure how to go about getting signed up and what all the rules are.
I go up there at least once a year with my father. We usually go see the vintage races or MotoAmerica.
The UK is honestly much worse. Public tracks keep getting privatised and we are starting to see a decrease in places for people to race without qualifications or tons of money. This is becoming a major problem now because street racing and reckless driving issues are more common.
The UK is absolutely fucked. It costs so much to live there now.
The closest track I know of is a 3-4 hour drive and is a drag strip
@@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg bruh it feels like we're at war with our own government
Late stage capitalism. We're all f ked.
Have some good memories of Rockingham, was gutted when it was bought out and closed, we almost lost 3 sisters and Birmingham wheels, not looking good for racing/drifting in the future
Similar instance in my community where locals built an awesome shooting facility then had a couple move into the lot next door, built a house and now the range gets multiple complaints a month solely from that couple complaining about noise. When THEY were the ones who built a house next to a gun range. Cant fix stupid
Then they win because the district or county judge doesn't want to deal with all the complaints. smh
Oh you can fix stupid. Just give it time and make sure you have a Darwin Award ready too.
I've gotten into going fast later in life. Now that I have the cash, time, and knowledge. I have 0 race tracks near me. The last one actually just shut down last year. The price of a track day is 4 ~ 5 times the cost of the ticket I'd get for street racing, including the insurance hit. Its just not attractive with the time and money I'd have to put into traveling to a track, and paying for hotels.
The street racing scene around me just seems to be growing, heck I've joined in on street races just because there is no where to do it legally.
The fines are nothing compared to what it costs to do it legally so we do it illegally.
Exactly, you get it. Hell, there are several car youtubers who started their career with cool cars by being absolute menaces to society lol
It'd be like taking the table away from someone who has already ordered their food and expecting them to not eat it elsewhere.
I've done pulls on a road near a power company and had both of my vehicles up to 90 on the interstate (in Mexico if you get my drift). Waiting for a safer situation to do a 100 mph run, because once you get going that fast, normal vehicles tend to get a bit hard to control. Especially a suburban, because why not do a top speed run in an old beater SUV? Likely transmission failure be damned, I paid for the whole speedometer, I'm gonna use the whole speedometer (eventually).
My problem with the tracks is how far everything is now. God forbid your car takes a shit especially when youâre in higher risk Motorsport like drifting, and your car is stuck two hours away from home đ. The worst part is I see so many old race tracks that are only 30 mins max from my house like Saugus speedway etc. but have been closed and donât host racing anymore.
The closest full blown racetrack to me that I know of is Watkins Glen which is still a 2hr drive. They have track days but they are like Alex said, like $600 a day or something crazy unless you do the "drive the glen" charity for $25 and 3 laps (supposed to be at 55mph max, last time me and a buddy went some guy totaled his mustang in the group ahead of us). The next closest track is NY Safety Track, which is a training track for motorcycles first and a racetrack last, idk what they charge but that's 4hrs away.
My race track is getting rebuilt into a better track so the Nora or nascar can race on the track
@@kylelyons1939 New York Safety Track is awesome, full day of racing for 150 I think. No decibel limits, we had a straight piped GT86 there a few years back
A lot of people will trailer their build to the track for this very reason. They'll have their tow rig, usually some pickup truck or SUV, something reliable that'll get them from home to the track, then their high horsepower wheelspin drift demon that might break down or be slammed into a wall and be too damaged to drive home.
Some even build their tow vehicle to be an even better tow vehicle, with a good set of heavy duty/offroad coilivers and other suspension components being common changes.
@@e36blur Your still not racing anything but the clock.
Fuck it if people have to take it to the streets they will, you can't take away our tracks and not expect the streets to be safer.
It works for bicycles.
Addictions are not good for you, i hope you can become a safe driver soon
@Goat if your definition of fun is putting yourself and others lives at risk you need to broaden your horizons
@Goat start your comment with a word not 3 return key presses. You should stay inside your house, they live there and have the right to complain about your objective stupidity and ignorance, and lack of care for others lives and needs. You do not need to pollute the earth and the neighbourhoods eardrums, you have an addiction
@Goat because i am a human being with thoughts and emotions capable of displaying compassion and understanding. We didnt survive by not caring about others
And when street racing starts happening in those areas people are gonna start loosing their minds
Reasonably so
Take it the track!
Just not those ones!
reminds me of people who live next to John Wayne airport in California and complain about airport noises.
All the damn time. I honestly don't get people but of course when it's "convenient" for them but no so much any other time
In the city I live in (Adelaide, Australia) we have the Adelaide 500 and the government got rid of it. When voting for new state government, one of them promised to have it back. Pretty much they saw the economic hit the city got after losing one of our last big event (Adelaide has been losing events for awhile). And so when we got it back it was the best Adelaide 500.
In Australia we don't see this as much. Most of the time we already have a hard enough time trying to modify our cars so tracks are left alone :D
CAN WE HAVE AUSTRALIA PLEASE?
Especially NSW, there's like two tracks left
@@AlexMartini. I watch Supercars they have2 track Adelaide Melbourne Queensland street and outback tracks in New South Wales there is3 street and outback tracks including a 6\12 hour race đ
How can you say that when multiple tracks get closed every year due to Karen's complaining?
No you do not want australia Alex we are treated worse than an actual criminal itâs disgusting
The fact is that most of these tracks were built a while ago when they were in the middle of nowhere. Now there are towns building around them and more people move closer and closer and closer until they make noise complaints and shut the place down. There was a race track somewhere in NSW Australia that closed last year because of noise complaints. Aswell as being a race track it was a training ground for the military. Now some people around there are driving a bit recklessly on roads. You move near a race track, make noise complaints about it, and now the people who raced there are doing pulls in your neighbourhood. Great. Fucking great.
Yeah my local track/dragstrip got bought out and replaced with plans for a Walmart supercenter. And then they're gonna wonder why there's so much street racing
Bad times to be a Motorsports fan in AZ. Really sad to see Firebird Raceway/Wild Horse Pass being shut down. It was the first track I rode on and the place I won my first sport bike race. It's actually not being shut down for homes though. They want to use the land for some kind of freeway extension.
Arizona Speedway was recently shut down because the state wants to use the land for something else. Probably homes.
Arizona Motorsports Park was shut down for a while because people complained that the noise was too loud. It opened back up but there's a sound limit. Interestingly there's no sound limit for the air force base located, no joke, a quarter of a mile away from the track.
same here man. Here I am building my race car only to see all the tracks being wiped out in a year. And left going wtf am i supposed to do now?
Here in Victoria, Australia, we have Avalon Airport right near the Avalon Raceway because there *used* to be like a "it doesn't matter how loud it is here there's an airport" zone. Now they removed it because a close suburb, Lara, was built. Guess what? They complain about the speedway (dirt speedway). Even funnier is that they don't complain about the trains, or the planes that literally go over their heads. A plane went right over the speedway when I raced there.
I did a google search on historic tracks in Milwaukee county, so many street tracks back then before the suburbs were developed đź
RIP Road America đșđž
Road America is one of the last standing tracks up here. Good thing they're loaded otherwise we'd probably be in trouble.
Road America isn't going anywhere.
Road America is probably the most popular track in the Northern Midwest. I don't think this video is aimed at the tracks that already host large events and are super popular. It's the small town dirt ovals and backwoods quarter miles that are at risk.
@Class1X Games Yes. Which is what scars me about Slinger. I don't think it would shut down because that basically is the town. And their biggest sponsor is a gasoline hauling company who basically own the town. People have definitely complained but that track is loved and was there wayyy before the houses were
i work for a company thats over 100 years old and makes engine parts(started with piston pins) in a town that was started on street racing.
I'm working on turning my Mazda 3 into a track specific build and the fact that more and more tracks are closing down is making me want to get it done that much sooner.
Mazda 3 gang
I'm not surprised to hear this happening in places like AZ due to a lot of people leaving the colder states for the warmer ones. I've heard that there are new housing and apartment buildings going up everywhere in certain parts of AZ to accomodate the exodus. Gotta put them somewhere unfortunately. đ€·
I think what would really help tracks nowadays is lowering the cost for entry a bit. Out here in Illinois, you only have options for Greatlakes Dragaway which is over an hour, Byron Speedway which is also over an hour, The one in Indiana (I can't remember the name) which is also...over an hour away and the one in Joliet which is 15 minutes away from me personally but seems to be closed 90% of the time unless they're doing NASCAR stuff. Most of the tracks nowadays charge $50 if you want to race now. Factor in gas getting there and back as well as all the gas you're buring while racing and it can get pretty pricey. Not to mention some of the other neccesities like food or a helmet if you're hitting certain times. I've also seen some people get refused after entry because they were wearing shorts not knowing pants were a requirement. You can rent some, just sit around and spectate or leave. lol.
I'm all for legal racing. I fully support it...but I can see why most people *don't* go.
Don't forget WWT Raceway near STL, it's still in IL. I'm lucky I live 5 minutes away from there and that they have things like midnight madness for people to race legally.
@@logantylerb.5299 That one is even further from me. Almost 4 hours. I haven't heard of that one though.. Midnighy Madness sounds pretty cool.
A lot of the people moving to Az are from california. They destroyed their state now moving to AZ destroying ours.
I live in phoenix and go to wild horse all the time the fucked up thing is itâs not even being removed for housing they wanna put a goddamn freeway straight through it when they could EASILY build around it yeah it wouldnât be as fun with a freeway right there but at least we would still a track. but you are also right about new houses and apartment buildings being put up where ever they can squeeze em in
@@Tyler-uz1ci also building a freeway there isn't going to reduce traffic at the i-10 tunnel which is the purpose of the highway extension. Its simply going to get more people clogging up the highway. So its nothing but losses all around
It's a sad time to be living in Arizona đ no wonder we see people racing on freeways, small roads and major roads too.
I live in AZ too and I thiiiiiink that wild horse is still open to some degree? I could definitely be wrong, but I saw that they have some events planned on their website for 2023 not too long ago.
@@stvticsteve7249 yeah I always see stuff get posted at least once a month whether that's a drifting event or autocross. But also depending on how big the event is sometimes they do a full on car show like Fuelfest
@@stvticsteve7249 it's crazy that I'm starting to see street takeovers too in like Mesa and Tempe and they're out of nowhere
@@ConstantineGaming okay sweet it sounds like theyâre still alive then haha. As for the takeovers Iâm sorry, hopefully they chill out đ€đ» im in Tucson, so not much in general goes on here lol
@@stvticsteve7249 havent lived in tucson in years, wheres the nearest track?
its not just car tracks, its all tracks, especially motocross, which is the motorsport i come from. There are a lot more motocross tracks than the average person would ever realize, you probably pass by at least one on your daily commute, but the big ones that run practices and races are dwindling
In Victoria BC we lost our local track last year. One of the oldest attractions near the city and sub developments around the track combined with the politics surrounding the track ended in the closure of the track
Then you got Vancouver island motor circuit where it costs a lot to go and the neighbours around it are pissed, and Saratoga has had to implement muffler rules and other bullshit do to a group of people trying to get it shutdown
I live in Idaho, and that track was on my bucket list. I started planning a trip in 2019 for the 2020 daffodil cup. Then COVID hit and travel wasn't allowed, and it closed down the year after. I was very saddened by that. Oldest track on the NSRA schedule.
I think the future is having one big anchor track like a nascar venue with smaller tracks in the infield or with a road course have a smaller config. That way the lager property can fight the legal battles and the local racing can be protected under that umbrella
They all turned into "booming real estate markets"
S1ap?
I did bit expect you to be here man!
Also it's sad
Maybe when your looking at renting a house, View the surroundings if you actually wanna live there
I remember few years ago, Imola race track (Italy) was almost closed down because of noise
*The track is 100 years old. Was built outside the city but people moved there.
Like Cleetus said, if you wouldn't build a track near a residential development, why would you build a residential development near a racetrack
Because housing is a greater public concern than letting a couple of people live out their VROOM VROOM obsession.
@@Turbobuttesthen what are you doing in this channel bug. Get back to your cage and work
@@Turbobuttes that's not an excuse, if housing is such a concern then first work on making it more accesible to residents instead of allowing the rents to go insane and for AirBNB to generate scarcity before allowing developers to take any land they please without asking about the repercusions that can be caused to and around it, either enviromental or in this case to a track that had been there for years and that was rescued by someone using their own money to do so, so again, if you wouldn't allow a track to be built near a residential development, why would you allow a residential development to be built near a track? And if it happens, owners have first to agree what they're getting into, don't pretend to be surprised about the noise and proceed to complain about it.
@@albnoel Can't help that CZcams is putting this sort of bullshit into my recommendations sometimes. Was curious about what level of idiotic circlejerking I'd find in the comments, and yup, it's all there. HURR DURR WE'RE JUST GONNA TAKE IT TO THE STREETS HURR DURR MOTORSPORTS ARE IMPOSSIBLE WITH LESS NOISE HURR DURR FUCK CONCERNS OF URBAN GROWTH WE HAVE VROOMING TO DO
@@Turbobuttes REEEEEEEEEEE I WANT MORE BUG PODS NEAR THE RACE TRACK. REEEEEE THE TRACK IS NOISY. SHUT IT DOWN REEEEEE
I don't understand, people willingly choose to live next to a race track and complain? Don't they have, you know, the whole rest of their county, town or state to consider instead? I'll add this to the bucket of things I'll never understand.
once you learn that most people are retarded, things make more sense.
You can't understand or reason with the mentally inept.
1. Cheap house, has everything your complainer ass could want except thereâs a racetrack which is very noisy
2. Buy said cheap house
3. Get racetrack shut down
4a. Sell house now worth more because no racetrack and no fun
4b. Now live in neighborhood where only problem is young people dying in street racing accidents
they'll learn the important of circuits and tracks when people start dying on the street. It's a sad thing to say but its the truth about this situation and why need for speed sorta shows a light on why all racing needs to be kept on the track due to the amount of traffic you can hit when not focused
Even if your focused, mechanical failures happen. Public roads arenât well paved and often have defects. Itâs more an issue of controlled vs uncontrolled environments. A race track is as controlled as you can get.
They won't really learn though. These types don't think that way. They just create more laws, make the penalties of existing laws more severe, and ramp up enforcement. The idea that they screwed up by closing a track or that one should be in the area is never one they have.
In a way, the public is inadvertently forcing a second resurgence of street racing. Ironic, since 20 years ago the same public was trying to get street racers off of public roads.
Englishtown NJ used to be an AMAZING track that we lost to new homes built too close. We still have ATCO and Island, but I don't think they'll last to much longer either.
shouldâve kept englishtown open, fuck the residents lmao
Knew there would be some Jersey in the comments... Englishtown was also much further north and almost in the center of the state so easier for more to access and hosted much larger events both racing events like NHRA and more exposition like Monster Jam or diesel-nats. The tracks down south have kept racing alive but don't have the other side which Englishtown did and that was frivolously wasted because people built and bought houses next to a pre-existing condition they vehemently hated.
I just had to grow up in the generation where cars in general are dying right in front of my eyes. I want to be taken back to the 80's and 90's to witness the peak. Taking down racetracks means that street racing will become even larger and more dangerous.
Our local track is having this problem, they want to build a big condo complex right in the track's backyard, another I've filmed at had a local show up to every event with a dBmeter to see if he could get the track shut down for sound violations.
That's a huge bummer. Do you think it's going to happen?
@@AlexMartini. Unfortunately it's in the stage where I can only imagine it will happen. Mission Raceway is a pretty awesome park, circuit racing, drifting, drag racing, Motocross, etc, and is the last one in the lower mainland of BC up here in Canada. I was chasing for Spec-D out at stratotech in Alberta, which is where I found the guy trying to get the track, located much further away from residents, shut down for noise violations. He stood right by the main straight where the winner did some victory donuts, just tipping the noise over the limit for a split second. It's definitely a problem everywhere unfortunately.
befriend the locals, become a vital community asset through genuine charity & Humanity, and - perhaps - that'll boost y'all's chances of saving the track. as i said in my main thread comment, ain't gonna be as much people showing up to close the track if the peeps that hang there regularly deliver Meals on Wheels, clean up the neighborhood, and let special-needs folks hang out and be "one of the dudes". đ
good luck to y'all from Texas.
~ Mesyn
Itâs like what we saw happen with skateboarding. It took to the late 2010âs for everyone to figure out that if your city doesnât provide skateparks, your city will become a skatepark. Same thing weâre seeing happen here.
P.O.S Karens have been moving in next to race tracks as long as I can remember The first time Karen tried to shut down Orlando Speed World 1978, then again in 1984, 1990 and it continues today. Every track that is shut down should be replaced with a sewage reclamation facility.
What's wrong with sewage reclamation? That's genuinely beneficial. The only people who would be opposed to that are NIMBYs anyway.
@@csmlyly5736 Definitely beneficial , But no one wants too live next to the stink.
I think we can all agree it would be an upgrade nevertheless
When I was in NY they shut down the tracks and then they kept denying permits to open new tracks because âthere was to many street racing and tracks would just encourage more street racing.â Now that Iâm Florida thereâs a good chance some will get shut down to rezoning.
I work in an amusement park, and go to airshows alot, and I feel the EXACT same way about people complaining about these sorts of things, You live next to an airport/amusement park, What the hell do you expect about the damn noise? but of course people complain and complain, and historic places get shut down.
Those people who live next to an airport and complains about the loud noises are just *pure idiot of the year* they don't understand how noises work, just motherfuckers who are too dumb to understand.
@@danniserendret4301 They think the world revolves around them, and they just succeeded in closing down an airport nearby us
They want us to stop street racing, but give us nowhere to go when we do.
Dwight eisenhower was a brilliant man. He designed us these sweet tracks in the interstate system.
Like here in ft worth we have I20. look for a single digit number in front of your local interstate. Here ours is 820. that means it's a loop that goes around and meets back up with the the original interstate. Makes a 50mile track around the city. :D
Anyone else almost start crying when they heard him speak of getting a $600 ticket? The impact of people trying to take away freedoms from people like us might just be another day for them. But to us; it's like taking a kid's toys from them and tossing it in the trash to then be told to yank it back out yourself. We work way too hard to be kicked while down especially if a lot of us aren't even on solid ground.
Here in Maryland the Maryland International Raceway has worked with Budds Creek and claimed it being a historical site to preserve the tracks which same thing happened in Unadilla. Best way to fight for these tracks and through claiming them as historical sites
I hope Cleetus goes that route with Freedom Factory. Best part, it's true. DeSoto Speedway was a historic site.
Just as long as Cecil County Dragstrip sticks around, I'm good. The hour trip from Baltimore is worth it though
Lived less than a mile from the legendary Islip Speedway and it was the "Go to" spot on Saturday evenings to hang with friends and family. A historic place since the Demolition Derby was essentially invented at the place. It was featured annually on the "Wide World of Sports" for The World Figure 8 Championships as well. That was a big deal at the time. The usual pattern prevailed. Track was there since 1947 with no problems. Housing crept closer. Complaints started about the noise. Jeez, people- it's like moving next to an airport at the end of a runway, then complain about the plane noise. You KNEW it was there and NOW you have a problem?. I think there were attempts to mitigate the problem by providing newer windows or something. But I think the owners realized just how many windows would need to be replaced as more and more houses were built. Surprised it actually lasted until 1984. To be fair- near the end it was a bit of a dump, so it was more of a nostalgic thing than a fun experience. You didn't sit down because you'd end up with splinters bigger than your hand stuck in your ass.
When it comes to the freedom factory I think that when the developer talked with him afterwards he mention maybe turning the part nearest to the tracks into a racing village. So the houses affected most from the track will be tied to the race track and be made for people who are into cars instead
People would still complain, no point.
This reminds me of the reaction to the incident at the Alameda County bomb range with the Mythbusters. The incident was indeed a major safety oversight and need not be repeated. But when people were surprised and outraged that there was a bomb disposal range next to their houses. It was their fault in buying the houses and the county and state's fault for allowing housing developers to build willy-nilly.
There's a developer making a community around a track. There's a HOA but it maintains a track.
So like a racer's village. I've always said I'd never support an HOA, but this is an exception. I can get behind one as a means of keeping a local track alive. Also, because HOAs are unreasonably powerful, it should be able to shut any karen up who complains about a track that they knowingly moved next to.
Where is it đ
People near me bought a cheap home next to a volunteer firehouse. They sued about the noise and successfully got the firestation closed. A few months later the house burned down and the land was sized under emminate domain to reopen the fire house......irony.
This situation also applies to every airport that the people who move near the airport complained the noise on every aircraft landing and take-off, even the airport was built in the first place.
Make no mistake, these people aren't morons. You think they buy cheap houses next to race tracks without knowing about how loud they are? lol
They aren't actually bothered by it, they are just trying to increase the value of their house so they can sell it, and make a large enough profit so they can go live somewhere nicer.... and its working.
I'll never forget when I lived in Myrtle Beach 12 years ago, the local news had a few residents of the trailer park (yes, MOBILE homes.) next to Myrtle Beach speedway give interviews, and said they wanted the track shut down because of how noisy it was.
R.I.P Myrtle Beach Speedway
I've lived next to a 1/4 mile clay oval race track for over 30 years. The track is owned by our county fair board and they've been racing there since the 40's. No one is shutting that down. Besides, the tractor pull competitions during the fair are way louder than the normal weekend races.
There was a video by Slap who explained why a lot of race tracks close and that his track, the legendary Greenville-Pickens Speedway, was closing. In short, surrounding suburbs or rural areas of small metropolitan areas expanded their market/city lines, which will be built around the race track... and then the Karen's come. Pretty much a human equivalent of a bee nest.
Link of you're interested: czcams.com/video/Dp5X0SQ8ffo/video.html
New Asheville Speedway same thing happened, The Biltmore Estate and River Link Hippies shut it down....
bees are absolutely essential to the environment comparing them to kerens is asinine
â@@SKULLKR3W what about wasps or yellow jackets? As far as I'm aware, they're just dicks. Lol
I talk about this every time there is a fatal car accident on the streets. Last story I heard was this, some father came home from work and wanted to go for a drive in his Audi to relax from a stressful week, he died alone on the highway, too fast and not enough skill, lost control...... in an Audi! I'd bet these stories would be fewer if there were more motorsport parks close by.
It's funny but I think that the more race tracks close down= more street takeovers that happen. Give people a place to drive fast and they won't do it as much on the street
I promise you the people that go to the track are not the same ones at takeovers even if tracks were to close. There would be a lot more street racing for sure, but the main difference is that street racers typically don't shut down an entire busy intersection
This one hits close to home. I'm from Phoenix and they're closing our local track soon.
When?...
@@AlexMartini. honestly I'm not sure. I just know last I heard it's some time this year. I know the latest show/race I've heard of is in March
Yeah dude itâs actually really sad to see that track die offđ even us northern az people are sad about it
@@tylerhale1696 isn't there one being built up in Kingman?
@@thedonutmiata5135 but who wants to go to Kingman tho
As someone who lives with a former NHRA drag racer it's a shame that racing is not as popular as it used to be back in the 70s to 90s
Wow! You knocked it out of the park. You are right, racing has gone from being spectator-oriented to participant-oriented. Some club tracks like NJMP in Jersey have struggled , but so has every track. Though you have to have cash to drive cars on track, it is more accessible than ever. If people are going to spectate in the future, it will be online. Tracks will not need as many seats or spectator amenities because of it. Great report, man!
Itâs like when skateparks get shut down so everyone who normally went there just went to places they werenât supposed to skate, but more dangerous.
Reminds me of that one place in California filling their skate park with sand to deter skating. Like bruh, skate parks are MADE FOR SKATING SO THEY DON'T RAIL GRIND AT THE PARK WHAT ARE YOU DOING
best part? After they filled it with sand, the dirt bikes showed up. Once they were done having their fun, them and the local "sk8r for lyfe" crowd got out their shovels and manually moved 37 tons of sand.
@@lsswappedcessna rail grinding at the park is still heavily encouraged tho
Australia has a massive event called Summernats, and this year the local government closed the track for whatever reason, so guess what, everyone that wanted to race or do burnouts took to the street. Again, closing the safe and regulated tracks seems like itâs just gonna cause more problems than not, including if track entry fees skyrocket. Because it already isâŠ
It's shitty to say but I think the car enthusiasts section in general is towards the end of it's life. The auto industry is moving away from performance and the new performance cars are generally priced out of most people's range. I really don't see the used market coming back down to pre-2020 prices and from my experience a lot of younger kids prefer not to drive. All this added on to shutting down tracks
Idk it sucks but I feel we might be approaching the end of an era in the next few generations
On top of that everything is "as a service" now. There's no reason to modify a car if you don't even own it, legally you aren't even be able to.
Everything is going this way, its the corporate overlords looking to squeeze the last pennies out of us.
@@Full_Otto_Bismarck We still have the right to own whatever we damn please it's that the greedy corporations don't see it that way.
3 generations ago, my father's family sold their farm land to some gear heads and they built a 1/4 mile track. It operated for nearly 100 years and was the only race track for 250 miles in any direction.
As a kid I used to fall asleep to the sound of jet cars, big v-8's and the echo of the announcer.
They shut the track down to make room to expand the freeway, and then they built warehouses all around it.
I do not even think we have an actual 1/4 mile race track in my state anymore. Lately, people have been going after the Bonneville salt flat racers as well, and these are guys that are litterly in the middle of nowhere in a completely inhospitable desert.
Seems like some people are so sad they won't let others to have fun
I live about 40 minutes from lime rock Park in Northwest Connecticut and thereâs constantly yard signs trying to shut down the track. Itâs already one of the only tracks in the country that canât run on Sundays. I run with a club called modified machines and we run on the smaller track thatâs on the interior for only $150 for a full day. Last two times Iâve been there I put over 50 miles on my Miata and Iâm exceedingly grateful to God for it.
In Boise Idaho we were able to get OMC Raceway on the National Register of Historic Places! Owyhee Motorcycle Club has provided motocross and dirt bike riders with a track to race at in the Boise foothills since 1940 and the land is in an area where multi-million dollar homes are being built. It was a long battle but we got it done! We now are working on Meridian Speedway in down town Meridian Idaho. This track has a long history and is where Davy Hamilton from Indy car cut his teeth racing. Many more drivers have raced there and it is where Hailie Deegan won here first Nascar lower level race.
It's interesting how different the sportbike community is from the performance car community. It was nothing for me and my boys to load up the bikes and go to Pocono raceway back in the early 00's and just rip all day...or of to NC Car and ride the track. I guess it's because a lot of people can't risk losing their car, but sliding out or blowing up your bike isn't as big of a deal. Considering I've never taken my cars to a trackday kinda explains it. I hope that the young folk can find somewhere to open these cars up, other than open roads. Maybe old airports are the future...idk. Just a thought.
This is happening with everything....I live in Tempe, Arizona, and there's a local favorite outdoor club here called "shady park" that hosts some of the top DJ's in the world. It's right on University avenue, right in the downtown nightlife area, at one of the biggest party universities in the United States. It's more than a club, it's a major hub of the community, and it's one of the only true cultural hubs this artificial feeling city has. Well brilliantly a housing development group built a senior citizen home right next to it for older people that want to go to Arizona State to take classes. The old people living there started complaining about the noise, and eventually due to this they shut the club down, even after a very long battle. Gotta love people that move next to loud/noisy areas, then have the audacity to complain that it's not quiet enough for them.
Same thing has happened in the uk with smaller race tracks known for banger racing (our version of demolition derby) and motocross either due to noise complaints, bankruptcy, or redevelopment of land for industry or housing estates as a result of urban and suburban sprawl.
Same thing has been happening in the aviation community with smaller airfields. They were purposely built away from everything (one I used to fly out of was literally built in a swamp so people wouldnât want to live next to it, but they did anyways) then people move next to it and wonder why itâs so noisy. Or some company builds a residential area next to an airport because the land is cheap. Why was the land cheap, because of the airportâs noise and then they all complain about the noise.
Just so incredibly dumb that people are that self-centered
A lot of the issues are brought on by the tracks themselves selling off extra land they own which then gets sold off to developers... Also racing in the USA began in the 1800s in the Chicago area
this hits home. Az losing our tracks is unfortunate. thanks for the video
It's called urban sprawl. Route 66 dragway outside Chicago got shut down as well.
Don't forget about Bradenton Motorsports Park which butts up to the Freedom Factory will be shut down too. We had a stock car track in my town that the land around it got developed into resedential and they complained until it was shut down also.
This is definitely going to lead to more street racing
this is like if you lived next to a train station or airport or something like that and you wanted to get it shut down
My friend lives by an airport and his neighbors complain about noise, people are actually retarded
Quebec Canada here and it happened here too. Residential area kept growing and people started complaining about the noise and they shut down 1 of the ONLY 2 race tracks we had. The funny thing is, they also complain about young adults do meets in large parking lots or drive fast on regular streets.
the same thing is happening to music venues. they build this nice venues and then some developer puts a housing block next to it and then the venue closes down
"Damn! I can't race on my favorite nearby tracks because they're closing! What will I do?!"
Public Roads:
city, state and federal governments: *making it difficult for motorsports to exist legally*
people who own high-performance cars or built cars: "fine, have it your way"
Rural highways, interstates, low-traffic subdivisions: đđđ
It's almost like they're trying to kill car culture in general...
Cars = freedom, and the elites know you work harder with less distractions
I used to live next to the Illiana speedway, which was built in '47. It was either every Friday or Saturday night, I remember going to sleep hearing the cars and announcer. Was never interested in watching the cars but I love hearing the loud engines at night. Sadly they closed the track a while ago due to noise complaints even though all my neighbors said they missed it aswell. Kinda stupid when you realized that most people nearby didn't want it to go and the track was there long before any of the residents.
#SaveAutosports
I want to see my kids racing on something that others raced on.
This is happening in Phoenix, AZ. It pisses me off. People just keep moving here. Traffic is getting worse, and the reasons why I loved it here are fading away.
Gearheads need a place to go. Especially the Southwest it has been a part of our culture.
That's where the issue lies. You're getting a bunch of transplants moving to Phoenix-Maricopa for the "warm" weather but they're also carrying their shallow attitudes along with them.
It sucks ass here anyways. I dont get why people wanna move here lol
@MarloSoBalJr (Gaming) and I'm a transplant....GO BILLS.....buuuut I adapted the AZ way of life.
The large influx of people coming here & the self entitlement of moving near a track & wanting to shut it down is pathetic. It was there first, know your surroundings.
For example, when I moved here I was anti-gun. Now I shoot for recreation because I looked at what AZ did here & learned I was ignorant to that life. I didn't try to push anti gun opinions & learned this way of life.
I grew up across the street from a strip. Lived across from it for 30yrs. When it closed it took me months to be able to go to sleep on Wednesday & Sunday nights. It sucked when it was gone đ
Thank you so much for Buttonwillow, Apple Valley, Irwindale, and Chuckwalla đ
We lost MOROSO due to the rare situation where they were bought out to be turned into a Amazon Warehouse, and the track was built next to Pratt and Whitney test facility that tests jet engines (so if anyone complains about the noise will have to ask the feds do stop building jets). R.I.P. Moroso.
Karen: build next to a race track
Also Karen: The race track should get shut down since its too close from my home
I know someone who lives a block away from the North 40 lot at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. He has loudly complained every Memorial Day weekend for the last 13 years. Like clockwork, he forgets that he voluntarily moved right next to the most prestigious race track in North America, that hosts one of the highest attended sporting events on the planet.
This happened in the UK a lot too, the track has been there years and then people move near by and are shocked a race track makes noise....
Fortunately i live in Germany where we still like cars :)
I'm dreading the day when my home track, Brainerd International Raceway, inevitably gets shut down due to these issues.
Lack of tracks = dangerous street racing = tracks being built. It all equals out đ
They never do that third step. They just raise the stakes with street racing enforcement until the only people left are the people pushed to the extremes and actively evading enforcement. Takeovers in a nutshell
All the local tracks are gone in our area. Long Beach re-opened briefly & closed again. There are zero new tracks being built.
In 1960, Green Valley Raceway opened in Smithfield, Texas. It eventually hosted NHRA races, and SCCA Can AM pro racing series on the road course. In 1986, it was closed down due to all the noise complaints. The city literally ran them out, because the property could be developed into suburbia and the city would get more property taxes. The same thing happened to Mangham airport in the same city. Where it was is a planned housing development. It is all about money.
In South Carolina there was an old dragstrip near Columbia called Blaney Dragway that was closed down in the 80s over complaints and was turned into a residential area and because of that theyâre a lot of street racers around but if blaney was still around it wouldâve been great for us young teens to race on instead of on the street
Street racing and take overs will only increase if they keep shutting down tracks
Building your house next to a race track and complaining about noise is like building your house next to the Chernobyl power plant and complaining about radiation
Yeah but living near a racetrack isn't going to kill you slowly
This is kind of what happened with m1 concourse in Pontiac Michigan. They made a track with dedicated garages that could be bought or rented and it turned into a club for the Uber rich to store and race their cars. I personally hope Waterford hills doesnât get shutdown anytime soon as it is in an area that could start becoming very expensive in due time.
Happened recently to a track in the PNW, (Pats Acres Racing Complex) couple new neighbors moved in, complained about the noise, and county shut them down. Still an ongoing fight to get it back
I live in NE and Iâm surprised the track Thompson is still around. I think the locals are used to it and donât mind & in this era of Karenâs, itâs refreshing to have a quality track literally inside a rural Connecticut neighborhood
people shut down tracks but keep golf courses open...
Yes because to most people cars are a boxing four wheels that get some round in a quiet efficient manner. Noisy cars and racing is a nuisance whereas a golf course or something respectable that you do with your generic boring family
@@TwoDollarGararge To be fair, why build houses near a track when it could've been anywhere else? Then the same people that complain about tracks being too noisy have to deal with street racers ruining public roads or even properties. I get that everyday population keeps growing and houses is necessary, but come on...anyone with a mind would know building houses in a place that is noisier than your neighbors is not a good idea. May as well start building more houses in the mountains, maybe more work but less complaint.
@@EnhancedTrashBin because what usually happens is the race track brings a little more money to the area and then developers of real estate see it as a future growth spot and get in early and start putting down homes
@@EnhancedTrashBin The other reason they build homes near a racetrack is usually the developers go to the town and convince them to turn the area around the track is to residential area so they can build homes and the town or state can then get property tax so there's also that incentive