How to Get 100 in All Skills in Fallout: New Vegas & Ace The Early Game THE RIGHT WAY
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- An updated guide on how to max out all your skills in Fallout: New Vegas, build a perfect character, and get to the Strip with over 4000 caps at level 1.
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13:35 "as long as you spend time to get all the skill books"
Always read the fine print
I've always made 9 INT builds and never considered how it wasn't necessary. I'm impressed by the level of research and knowledge that go into these vids.
Yeah, if you have all the dlcs then you'll more than likely have all skills maxed without high intelligence by level 50. The Fallout Wikia is a great place for knowledge on learning meta ways to play. Fallout 3 was where high int was more useful
@@wrath2008 lol not really, with Comprehension, all of the Skill Books, Almost Perfect, and all of the Bobble Heads you could get 100 in all skills with a starting Int of only 4, and all of your SPECIAL would be at 10 if you held off on the bobble heads until level 30.
+10 with glitch after leaving good springs
+34 from books
Level 50 glitch respect
50 perks
I only go up to 56 skill because of books
Special
Str 8
Per 4
End 9
Int 10
Chr 1
Agi 8
Luk 10
When I get 100 skills when leaving good springs
@@jaisummons2304 I have something a little better
Starting: S:2 P:6 E:7 C:1 I:9 A:7 L:8 take Four Eyes and take Skilled 3 times (first at Mitchell’s House, then when leaving good springs, and then in Big MT’s autodoc)
With the Lucky Shades, all implants minus Charisma and HP regen, the 1st Recon Beret, Reinforced Spine, the extra SPECIAL point from Lonesome Road put into strength, the Mr. House variant of the Courier Duster, and no perk points wasted on Intense Training, you should end up with:
S:6 (4+2)
P:10 (6+4)
E:8
C:1
I:10
A:9 (8+1)
L:10 (9+1)
With this set up you can take all of the best perks, such as Tunnel Runner, the Implant GRX perk, Better Criticals, etc, you don’t need Educated or Comprehension to still hit 100 in all skills, and with Weapon Handling you meet the requirements for all energy weapons and most guns.
Really the only downside is not being able to take Strong Back or Burden to Bear, but if you do decide to pop only 2 Intense Trainings into Strength you can get those if you want, and Weapons Handling won’t be needed if you go that route.
@@Slender_Man_186 big brain even bigger muscles
2 hand Sword
Chems
Power armor
I roll play as a berserker pumped up on psycho
I kill anything in 1 hit if I punch it
My brains not there in combat after combat I gain my intelligence back.
Imagine seeing someone in full plate armor breathing chems and charging in with with a sword right into Caesars men what would they think. He and the NCR wishes they had men like me.
The funny part is, if you're going for dialog options depending on your perks you only need 80-90 in all skills and then read a magazine
Yeah, only skills to 100 are your weapons of choice and skilled is a wasted trait.
@@nunya_bizniz skilled is great for helping you hit the early game skill check brackets if you don't plan on leveling to 50.
@@nunya_bizniz 🤣 skilled a wasted trait? It helped me get to all 100 skills with only 7 intelligence
@@nunya_bizniz you can fix that at old world blue you know.
@@nunya_bizniz It lets you hit the cap way early and you can later swap it for another trait anyway.
Just one thing: You don't actually need the stealth boy to get past the deathclaws on your way to new vegas, it certainly helps, but that route is entirely doable without one. You could sell that stealth boy or save it for later.
I usually cut through big mountain and scale my way down, then make a break for the strip. Way easier than trying to outrun deathclaw's
@@antonioalvarez9343 wasted 10mm by not going East soon as I was clear of Black Mountain.
Only alpha chads run the cazadore route
You can get a stealth boy out of the safe (easy locked) in the school house. All you have to deal with is 4 mantis nymphs.
I save all of my stealthboys. Currently I have 15 stealthboys in stock at level 48.
You could steal a star bottlecap in one of the goodsprings houses, sleep, and murder Malcom Holmes for his trader clothes for a +10 boost to barter before you even leave goodsprings
Wow didn't know that
There's definitely a star bottle cap in the white house where the women sleep, the one close to Victor's shed. It also has a shotgun and a Chinese Army: Special Ops Training Manual skill book. I believe there's at least one other star bottle cap in one of the other houses, either the one next to the bighorner pen or the one next to the general store.
It's not like Malcolm shows up again anyway.
I always do that.
Is the bartering necessary? I assume entering the strip through Fort McCarran and selling 3 snowglobes should be enough money to start gambling then having enough money for the implants.
'you can use an exploit to get skilled perk 3 times but thats cheating'
'ok so first thing you need to do is save scum until a certain super rare item spawns'
'and dont forget to download the sprint mod'
Really be out here playing on console too, how tf I suppose to use console commands
Yeah, I love how he just casually doesn't mention that he's playing with a bunch of mods xD
@@blizzyfingers676
That's not really cheating though
That's just enhancing the experience and speeding up the recording process
plus the d-bag is using tons of mods f him
One thing I do when breaking the casinos is I play blackjack up until I’m about 100 caps from getting banned, then save and switch to roulette. It’ll take a few tries but hitting a single number gives you a boatload of caps way beyond the regular number for the ban. A way to maximize the gains from gambling.
I was looking through to see if anyone else made this suggestion, glad to see I didn't need to. Lol
But whats the point of that just do dead money and you have enough money to buy everything in that game
@@noobgun12not everyone wants to do Dead Money early on.
@@GeraltofRivia22 console?
I've always gone by a rule where I stash and don't use skill books until I reach a threshold of 64 skill points. 4 skill books = 16 points with comprehension, which brings the skill to 80. 80 + magazine = 100, that way I don't have to scrape every last bit. I just max out my one gun combat skill, melee skill, sneak, and the rest is pretty much "Do I need higher than 80 for a skill check? If so, magazine." Makes it a lot less of a juggling game for the books.
Yeah man pretty much.
60 max with your own skill distribution and g2g.
I usually do 71 for stuff like lockpick and science so I can mentats my way thru to 75. party time also stacks with regular in a pinch. having int at 5 actually ensures that that strategy is always effective if you're under 100
@NoLifer4 bro who the hell did you sell the loot to?
@@balkaba3927 taking Jury Rigging helped. Keep collecting armor and guns, always repair them. By the time you get to Primm, if you have a high enough repair for EDE, he can be brought along as a luggage mule, pick up Cass and keep collecting stuff. When you get to free side/mick and Ralph’s you should be looking at about 40k caps worth of guns and armor.
why are you fine with save scumming and promote it repeatedly in your video, but get on your high horse about "cheating." Why isn't it cheating for you to save scum if you get any results you don't like? Why not just mod or console command the items into your inventory? I'd love a response for your hypocrisy and condescending tone.
If you want to get better caps for this early-game portion of the run, make your second trait "Good Natured." Doesn't alter your starting number of skill ranks, just reshuffles them a bit, taking five out of each combat-oriented skill and putting them in the "friendly" skills, such as barter and speech. Five extra points of barter doesn't make much difference in price per item, but you'd be amazed how quickly it adds up.
It's great for the early game, but fades into a non-trait later in the game as skill points accumulate.
Switch it out in Old world blues
@@Abdullah.996
To take _Skilled_ a third time, of course.
If you're looking to get the most out of Barter for those early sales, it might be prudent to pop by Jean Sky Diving before taking care of business in Goodsprings and grabbing the Sunset Sarsparilla Star Bottle Cap in order to trigger Malcolm Holmes spawning in the game. Kill him and loot his outfit and cap, which each give Barter +5 for a total of 10 extra Barter.
For a "normal" build good natured is amazing. You only use 1 or 2 of the offensive stats usually but at least 3 of the non offensive it boost.
Rn I'm using energy weapon and explosion for offensive, and science medicine and repair (all at 100)
I always take the Early Bird perk, but not for minmaxxing. I find that it's the absolute best perk for immersion because it forces you to plan out your day and be like "well I'm going back to Novac because it's the only player home I have so I need to plan my day around walking back to Novac, sleeping 8 hours and being awake by 4 or 5 to beat the sun." It really makes you feel like you're a Wasteland walker on an adventure and not just a Bethesda PC on a Forever Walk.
Nah, I take it and pomptly forget about it so I'm left wondering why I lose carry weight
@@nook515 >he didn't take Pack Rat
I picked it on my first playthrough but never again because it's too op, you just need to wait until morning and there you go
How dare you remaster doc Mitchell this hard. You’ve erased the chadliest mustache in all of fallout
I like this guide. It's totally different from what I've been told to do. Having to essentially forget the "optimal ways" that I've been following like gospel gives me the same feeling as if I were playing it for the first time
Wow, you really understand this game. I wish I would have known many of these strategies earlier on. Great job making this video… you’re a pro, bro!
The regen implant is godlike if you do a HC run of Dead Money. Since just standing in the plaza drains your health slowly.
Wiki: In Hardcore mode, the Cloud slowly poisons the player character at outdoor locations of the Sierra Madre, dealing three health damage every 20 seconds. This will not occur in indoor locations or if the player is below 10 Hit Points.
3hp dmg every 20 seconds, that can’t even kill you? Save those 10k caps and eat blamco mac&cheese to recover those 3hp instead.
@@max7971if you actually make the game hard with mods and dont just play vanilla level difficulty. That passive hp drain is brutal
@@max7971bro has trouble making 10K caps in new vegas of all games lmao
You might not need 7 Strength, if you do OWB you get an additional 1 STR for rhe duration of the DLC which you can increase to 2 once you finished it (Spineless and Reinforced Spine perks) so counting the STR implant you have 3 additional S.P.E.C.I.A.L. points to distribute elsewhere while still being able to effectively use most weapons if you lower your initial STR, the minimal i recommend with this setup is 4 base STR but i generally go for 5 for comfort
Edit: additionally, most weapons with a high STR requirement don't really hurt that badly from the accuracy penalty since they're mostly spray and pray type weapons like a Minigun or AOE explosives like Fat Man or Missile Launchers so they're fine as long as ypu point them in the enemy's general direction. Only exception i can think of is Anti-Material Rifle which can still be wielded with the minimum 4 base plus implant and Reinforced Spine
Level ups can be halted by pausing the game frequently, if you wait to discover locations you wouldn’t have to. The skill point from uneven int is saved for the next level so it is optimal to obtain the intelligence implant before leveling up.
Instead of buying the luck implant right away, pass the 30 speech check to open Mick and Ralph's secret stock and steal the naughty nightwear between the bars for +1 luck
I've always gone by the Cazadors when I do a run taking me straight to Vegas, since they have to stop to do their attack they can't actually hit you if you're running away.
Tried going the way you did once a long time ago and had trouble with Deathclaw spawns
you could also use the terrain to jump on top of one of the tents in the tribal village area, then use VATS to shoot one of the bigger cazadore's antennae and frenzy it, make them kill each other, badaboom free fire axes and a 10mm submachine gun on the corpses.
@@FiveSeVIIen the route he took has a free hunting revolver and combat helmet on a gore bag on top of a cliff
Lol I cut through the mountains into the building with the unique plasma rifle from the right side of quarry junction. Literally never had a death claw on me. Just gotta be a lil careful and watch your hud
You can bring INT down to 3 and still max. Get the Intelligence Implant before hitting level 2 and get comprehension + every book along with Skilled Trait exploit x2. This gives you +2 special stats to put wherever.
When creating my character I only need to put his intelligence at 3 and all my stats will max out if I find all skill books and get an intelligence implant?
Charisma does affect the strength of your companions, and is actually really strong in that regard. However, you need a lot of points into charisma to really see a large benefit from which is just inefficient from a meta perspective.
Good thing meta is not important in single player games
Sounds worthless then. Companions are pack mules that offer bonus perks.
@@Ebola419 Have you ever seen Veronica practically bend over, and spank Legate Lanius it is awesome to watch.
@@Ebola419 never tried giving them better/fitting equipment, like vaquero raul & a swc loaded sequoia? Dude becomes the arizona ranger
It's noticable enough if you dont drop it to just 1, shouldve allowed more companions for every 2 points tho, like agility shouldve granted slight speed buffs per point
I found that you can get through the deathclaws by hugging the rock wall until you find Neil’s shack, then sneak past the super mutants, and go up the area where the boulder rolls down, also don’t forget to grab the ncr armor from the corpse at the bottom of the area, I also like to go through the repcon headquarters and get all the stuff from there, then once you get to new Vegas, go to camp Macaron and ride the monorail to the strip,
dont forget ur raider sadist armor
The 7 str isn’t necessary either. With the str implant and the spineless perk from old world blues, you can get 8 str with 5 starting str. Giving you the minimum str to use every weapon in the game effectively. I like this guide though, keep up the good work.
Even then, 6 is all that’s necessary for most weapons with the Weapon Handling perk, so 4 Strength would be a better bet.
My build is S:4 P:6 E:7 C:1 I:9 A:5 L:8, with Four Eyes and Small Frame being the Traits
With all implants minus Charisma and HP Regen, Lucky Shades, the Mr. House version of the Courier Duster, 1st Recon Beret, Spineless, and only a single perk wasted on Agility Training, this gives me
S:6 P:10 E:8 C:1 I:10 A:9 L:10
@@Slender_Man_186 Fair point with the strength. The reason why I start 5 is for the two +50 carry weight perks. Do you run your build for multiple weapons in mind or just one?
My build to start is
S:5 P:5 E:7 C:1 I:4 A:9 L:9, with Skilled and Trigger Discipline being the traits.
All implants except Charisma and Intelligence, the Ranger Sequoia, Ulysses' Duster, 1st Recon Beret, and Reinforced Spine (my mistake in my initial comment) I have an effective 45% crit chance
S:8 P:6 E:8 C:1 I:4 A:10 L:10
I'm built for my favorite weapon (and the Anti-Material Rifle) meanwhile your build sounds like anyone who walks in your direction is going to have a bad day.
@@conqueror7777 I figured out a better version of my build, one that can take Skilled instead of Small Frame and no Intense Training needed, you have to start with 2 strength instead. This kinda forces you into energy weapons exclusively in the early game and the low carry weight sucks for a while, but you still end up with the same end stats.
See, I basically just forgot about two whole ass perks that are great: Reinforced Spine from Old World Blues, and the free SPECIAL point you get after beating Lonesome Road. When you start OWB you get the Spineless perk that gives you +1 strength, and with Weapon Handling you have the requirements for the YCS-186, take Rapid Reload before that and the DLC shouldn’t even be a problem at level 16, take your spine back at the end and you get a +2 increase instead. Get the implant with all of the caps you got from Big Mt and you’re back up to 5 strength. You could honestly go right into LR from there, although get faction reps in order before you do so you get the Duster you want.
Speaking of which, If you decide to go with the Yesman Duster, start with 7 Luck instead, put the spare point into anything, use Naughty Nightwear for early game gambling. You can’t do this with any of the other Courier Duster variants, at least I don’t, I need 8 naturally Agility for Tunnel Runner, 6 natural Strength for Burden to Bear, and 8 natural Endurance for the GRX Implant perks. I prefer Mr. House’s for the agility buff reload speed increase, the YCS-186 is great but reloading after every shot sucks, and I also like to occasionally switch off to Ulysses’ Duster for the 5% crit chance increase in “oh fuck” situations and they look identical.
@@Slender_Man_186 i know its been a year since you replied here, but just started making a very inefficient energy weapons build before seeing your advice on these videos. If i wanted to do an energy crit build from fresh, how would i go about doing it statwise? Ideally with high int since i enjoy all the dialogue options for high intelligence
Dude this is insane your doing this again 10 years later good work boss I can’t believe you’ve been doing this for so long you just got another subscriber
This is a brilliant guide! It has totally thrown everything I took as gospel out the window. Thank you!
This is genius. I never felt like maxing out exploiting glitches. Thanks !!
Great guide. Taught me a couple of things. My favorite part about this game is learning new things about it after playing it for 8 years. Only things I would add would be:
1. There's a second Salesman's Weekly that you could buy/steal from Chet (on the bottmom shelf of the bookshelf on the left). Not necessary but nice to have as a backup. Just be careful because it loves to clip through the floor.
2. There's always a Stealth Boy in the easy safe in the Goodsprings School. If you need a boost to get to 25 lockpick, just get the magazine from Sunny and wear the hat you can loot from Doc's house. If you're still short, make a new game and take Good Natured then get rid of it when leaving Goodsprings. You can also open it with 25 Science using the easy terminal next to it. If you don't want to save scum for the Stealth Boy in Victor's Shack, get this one instead.
3. At first, tag Repair and Science so you can repair the 9mm Machine Gun and use the Chemistry Kit in Doc's house (make the chems because they sell for more than stims), then untag them when leaving Goodsprings. Will get you a few extra caps. (I'd still tag Repair because it's OP and Light Touch is the best level 2 perk and requires 45 Repair.)
4. Fast Shot is actually a really good trait. A lot of weapons (notably Energy Weapons) have such low spread that the downside isn't that noticable and the increased firing speed more than makes up for it. I wouldn't take it over Built to Destroy, but I'd consider it a viable trait. I'd even use the Auto Doc in the late game (level 40) to get rid of Skilled and replace it with Fast Shot so you still have levels to max out your skills (only applies if you have YUP or UPP; if you are playing Vanilla and the Skilled exploit isn't patched you could even wait until level 50 as you won't lose skill points when getting rid of Skilled).
I think Logan's Loophole would be a pretty good trait too because it can be swapped out at the Old-World Blues Auto-Doc around level 29 or something.
My only problem with relying on skill books is that you have to go through the tedium of finding all of the skill books. If you just want to do a fun/straightforward playthrough, then you should still go for the 9 int build. Skill books busted, but they're not fun to find for everyone.
This. I just did a run where I was chasing down skill books and it just felt like work and took me out of the RP of it.
Agreed.
It's a pain in the arse looking for em.
cry more
@@ryanjones3202 Oof, big man over here
I like the theory-crafting aspect behind doing a build like this. It’s more adaptable than anything I’ve ever made. I find it more satisfying to make a build that has to make hard choices, and behaves a certain way. The idea of having it all, oddly, feels antithetical to how i want the game to be like. Nonetheless, a very fine video, and would recommend.
Same, I prefer specific builds to being good at everything.
Haha it is interesting how different people's instincts are. I want to be a maxed out generalist.
@@LlywellynOBriengo play cod
@@Crowfist nah man
Why be good at some things when you could be good at everything?
Really great video. Thanks for taking the time to create an updated version. Can’t wait to see what else you have in store for us.
Quick tip when leaving goodsprings make sure to accept the rebuild charecter prompt as theres a glitch that when taking skilled as a trait for the second time it will stack with the first time while not further decreasing your exp gains this means you'll have 130 skill points from that 2 times alone.
P.s this can be done again in the big empty for another 65 skill points but as some skills will probably be at 100 at this point it's better to just take something like built to destroy or the like plus when you take skilled for the third time it makes it redicolusly easy to get 100 all around.
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@@thatrandomname7788 Bro save scums and uses sprint mod to run past enemies he's a hypocrite lmao
@@user-lh7mt7zo7l ikr for me I say just play the game the way you want lol have a good time and enjoy.
or you can just walk to the edge of goodsprings and hardsave right befoer the prompt pops up to rebuild. then just walk to it opening and closing ur pip boy until it pops up while the pip boy is on screen and then just constanly rebuild ur character taking skilled over and over til every skill is 100 at lvl 1 and be done with it all lol.
@@moarblood5120 Wait what? That's a thing? How did you find that out?
I always go with 9 in Endurance, Intelligence and Luck. Then divide the rest of the special points between strength, perception and agility. I always make charisma 1 and always use that one extra point for strength. So the stats would be
5, 4, 9, 1, 9, 4, 9
Then I take the quick way to vegas and buy a naughty nightwear from mike and Ralph's, play blackjack at the atomic wrangler then get a Intelligence implant. I do this will make sure I don't level up until I get the implant so I benefit from 10 Intelligence. I make sure to grab educated and compression then finally play the game for real and collect skill books.
If you stop investing skill points in skills once they reach 80 then the skill books can care you to 100.
I find that by level 30 I maxed out almost every skill to 100 and if I'm more diligent on the skill books probably max out everything before reaching level 40.
You can also use this method to max out most of your special stats. All you need is to use intense training and if you want high charisma then use chems and outfits.
Also, if anyone is wonder. This method requires all the big dlcs because they increase the level cap and add more skill books to the game to collect.
I like your method, but as of now I don't have any of the DLCs. With that said, should I set my SPECIAL the way you have or is there a better method to take?
This is a great guide here man. I’ve been playing NV since it released when I was 13 and your method is nearly identical to mine. Minus, ofc, the occasional & initially accidental use of the skilled exploit, I actually thought I discovered it at one point. I love the pacing and how you don’t waste any time. Many creators would (and have) crammed less info in a 35 minute video.
I’m pretty sure the safe in the goodsprings school always has a stealth boy so there is something that’s a bit more consistent
Yup, also, it's not hard to pickpocket the one from Joe Cobb, but of course, one has to do the intro part first to spawn him.
There is a little something to add to this. If you want more caps you can spend a little at Mick and Ralph's to buy the naughty nightwear which will raise your luck one more point. Wear that while gambling and it will be easier but that's not what will make you extra money. When you are just shy of the jackpot limit switch from blackjack to roulette. If you have ten luck you can put everything on a 32:1 bet. You will lose multiple times and when you drop more than a thousand below the limit, go back to blackjack to get that back up. But when you hit at roulette you will walk away with double or close to double what you would have with just blackjack.
I've always hated roulette, but I should really try this..
@@RedSaint83 I hate roulette too but I like caps more.
Pretty succinct and coherent. I have always put more points in Intelligence, and known that I didn't need to, because I always max it out too fast. I think I will adopt this method, although there are a couple of tweaks to that I will make to personalise it.
Thank you for investing the time to create this guide as to how you have gotten around this, it's going to save me a lot of naffing around doing similar.
Just saw your comment linking this video on your old video!
Glad I clicked it! Keep going!
The best trait is Logan's Loophole. 30 level is fine enough to stay with and not feeling yourself too overpowered. And due to increasing duration multiplies - take Lily and enjoy 20 min or real time stealth boys or 20 sec turbos.
Can’t overstate how powerful that trait is. I took it once to test it, and never looked back.
Overall good video, well explained and well articulated, but I have to disagree on a few points:
#1 is the choice of "viable" traits. If I had to choose, I would say Built to Destroy, Trigger Discipline, Fast Shot, and Skilled are all extremely good depending on what build you. Not a fan of Small Frame because you will get crippled much more frequently which can get you killed later in the game. The extra limb damage for +1 AGI is not a good tradeoff IMO
#2 is educated and comprehension. Neither of these perks are necessary and they are both a waste if you know what you are doing. I hardly ever use magazines in any of my playthroughs.
#3 is the route to New Vegas. If you take the path up towards Black Mountain and head up past where the boulder is, you can completely avoid all of the deathclaws and mutants, and you can get a set of NCR armor to disguise yourself and take the metro at camp McCarren completely circumventing the need for caps.
If you really want lots of caps, collect Fiend bounties, then play slots. Much faster than poker even at low luck. Anyway, Great vid. Respect for not using the skilled exploit at the beginning.
Eh slots is time consuming and not as effective as you’d think. The best idea for slots is to get to around 1k of the limit of the casino and then hope to get fruit from the fruitstand as then you will achieve all Casino bonuses as well as upwards of 3000 extra caps.
Blackjack is the absolute best way to make money fast.
@@AndreasFunnell not in my experience. It's reliable, but it's also really slow. In the time you spend clearing out a casino via the card table, you could easily hit a jackpot on slots and clean out the house. Slots are my preferred go-to, especially if I'm doing a low-luck build.
Thank you for watching the video and for your comment, I appreciate the constructive feedback! Regarding traits, I find Fast Shot and Trigger Discipline to be pretty bad. Fast Shot doesn't affect automatic weapons at all, which is probably what most people have in mind when they pick that trait. This means you only benefit if you're using semi-automatic weapons, so Fast Shot would be a big hinderance in accuracy where you need it most. Trigger Discipline does affect automatic weapons, which I think makes it even worse than Fast Shot. I don't want my automatic weapons to fire 20% slower in exchange for some extra accuracy.
Small Frame does cause you to take 25% more limb damage, but mid/late game you have so many stimpaks and doctor's bags that it becomes a non issue and is basically a free +1 AGI.
Regarding Educated, I agree that it's not necessary. You're also right that Comprehension is not necessary, but if you choose to not take Comprehension then you have to save/load the workbench crates in Honest Hearts to make up for the skill points you're missing out on. This can take thousands of attempts if you're unlucky, and I assumed most people didn't have the patience for this, including myself.
The path to New Vegas I showed in the video also avoids all deathclaws and mutants. The path you suggested is equally as good. Using the metro to sneak into the Strip is nice, but you're gonna have to unlock the main gate at some point in the game anyways. Might as well do it now while we have caps. They don't actually take 2000 caps from you, they just check to make sure you have more than 2000, so it doesn't cost us anything.
With Small Frame ... once you have repair to 55, go to the top of the hill by Goodsprings Source (Barton Thorn's girlfriend). Damage your limbs with the Bear Trap, reset it with repair 55, heal on mattress, repeat 50 times (if hardcore, use hydra, doctor bags, weapon binding ritual, daturana, or healing poultice so you don't have to go to an owned bed or a doctor between each damage). This is the Tough Guy challenge that reduces limb damage by 20%, basically negating Small Frame. Also, Adamantium Skeleton, Toughness, Hit the Deck, and Tribal Wisdom (Honest Hearts) are good to reduce/negate limbs damage.
There are very few ways to increase SPECIAL, so giving +1 Agility is pretty big.
By taking Small Frame, you have an extra point that would have been used in Agility, that can now be used for any other SPECIAL. Agility increases guns skill & sneak skill, draw & holster speed, reload speed, and increases action points available for VATS. Also, it's required to be 5 6 7 or 8 for many of the best perks.
I love everything about this video and i'm glad i found this damn channel
I was just looking at your video from 9 years ago after looking it up and only 6 days ago you post this, wow
I was doing the calculations a while ago and found that if you take skilled, comprehension, read all skill books and have high luck, you can do it very easily with only need 3 intelligence until you reach level 4.
Reading your build here, assuming that you take the skilled trait (and not counting the Lonesome Road DLC and the Small Frame trait), you only need 11.57 skill points per level which translates to just more than 3 intelligence.
I always go 5 strength 10 endurance bc all implants, highest health possible, and with the +1 strength from the implant the +2 from owb dlc and -2 on weapon requirements from that one perk (weapon handling maybe?) you can use every weapon in the game. I might miss out on some strength related perks but just prefer it also always pick up the lucky shades to get to 10 luck other than that this is the same build I do. Last bit it's not too hard to get 100 in all skills with 4 int if you get most skill books so you can go 6-6 for agil and perc or 7 in one if you prefer
You mean 9 Endurance at start, right? There are 9 implants, one being Endurance which would then raise it to 10
actually if you go east instead of west at neil’s shack ( where there are the dead ncr guy and the no damage bugged boulder with bear traps ) you won’t need any stealthboys, actually you will not even fire a gun or throw a punch if you keep running, also grab that ncr armor so you can use the choof choof at camp mccarran, remember to pay a visit to house, accept the quest, go to the cocktail room and grab your second snow globe ( first one will be where victor found you ), then speak to Jane and get your easy 4000 caps ( usually I do 9 INT + 1 from the implant and just then I can start my playthrough )
this is to get to the strip REALLY fast but CamBam even teaches us how to get rich and stuff.
Gonna play a 1 intelligence Gunslinger (since my character got shot in the head), but this guide will still be useful to get my important skills up. Thank you.
Actually, charisma does one thing that I don't know why no-ones mention it.
Charisma increases companions, damage and defense. I think as example, at charisma 8 you get 80% Defense and 60 or something damage. Add a mod that let's you recruit more companions, as well as everyone you want, and it's fun, but I also had before a mod that, the more you used something, the more exp you got.
Speech leveled up so quickly as you could've gotten it by talking. But I'm glad to see this info either way, and this video too!
Always glad to see channels who both, made videos in the past, once, suddenly then made new videos, and went straight into the path of success and charm
+5% to their damage and defense for every point is minor, at max 10 that's +50% which is pretty insane but overall they're not needed.
and if you run certain traits and perks, you can get like 4-6 Temporary Charisma while just starting at 1 (granted that won't effect the companion stats as it must be a perma point)
even then, just having 2 from the implant is a +10% which is pretty decent anyway for almost any companion.
@@theomegablade6415
It would’ve been worth it in FO4 if it could make your companions more accurate-might have made me less annoyed by them.
I got really sick of Preston whiffing laser musket shots quick, and Nick was actually just a pistol whip build, considering that’s the only way he could actually hit anything.
@@okonkwojones give them a modded up weapon and ammo, they'll whiff less with a weapon you've given that has more accuracy at the cost of not having inf ammo.
that or you can get a workshop mod that buffs all the base game companion weapons to be more viable.
@@okonkwojones also doubly, certain companions are better with certain weapons, like McCready, he'll hit a lot more often with rifles over say, a laser weapon.
I usually just use Dogmeat in an unmodded game for Lone Survivor or Cait if i want a companion as she's good with Unarmed and Shotguns
@@theomegablade6415 yeah, they get them knocked out of their hands a lot, so I ended up turning Curie into luggage with sledgehammer arms and that sorted me until I got bored of playing.
There should be an abundance of skill points available just check the wiki and don't go over like 60-65 to be safe. Also pick up any empty books as you can craft skill books.
You'll have plenty by the time you get to the Old World Blues DLC. You can then go around picking them all up from the wasteland and other dlcs, before using the empty books to finiaze any skill points remaining. I personally love having a collection of skill books, so there's plenty more than you need.
Point is Empty books, below 65 (Use armor and mentats / magazines to boost skills where needed) find all skill books from the wasteland, then DlC finish up.
Wait, you can turn empty books into skill books?
The permanent kind?
@@a.k8185 In Old World Blues. But IIRC, there are only 4 books you can create.
@@randallporter1404 i bought and finished the entirety of new vegas about 2 weeks ago.
Thanks for the answer anyways!
@@a.k8185 yes, but you can only create 1 of each skill book in OWB.
Good video. Might try this on my second playthrough.
I've had this game in my backlog for years and finally started playing it a couple of days ago. Started with minimal tips to see how things went and to figure out what to do for a second run. Basically just maxed intelligence from the jump, did the skilled exploit once (by accident but may do it the second time now that I know) and took the two perks that give you another skill point each (put both into luck). I'll be hitting the strip with 8 luck and probably about 2000 caps after the entrance fee. Now that i know what it takes to max out at the casinos I'll probably grind to up my caps beforehand. Hope I didn't mess up my first playthrough too much.
This is one of the best guides of all time thanks :0
At 13:23 to save the 2,000 caps you could alternatively use the monorail in Camp McCarran for free by running past the guards.
i keep seeing comments like this across videos and I'm confused, you don't lose the 2k, you just have to have it on you to prove the robot that you can afford the Strip. At least I never lost it in my games.
@@nebulous798 Apologies I was remembering wrong, what I meant to say was to get in without needing the 2k caps you could go through the monorail.
Or do like 3 quests for the King that take like 20 mins total and walk in for free, and with a quest to go get Rex waiting on you
Yeah, the NCR armor is so easy to find on dead corpses.
While the theory-crafting might be solid, I think this guide misses out on the fact that if you intently do most major quests in the game without intentionally level grinding, you'll finish almost the entire game by level 30-35 at most, and knowing that, the skilled's -10% XP penalty becomes quite noticable and how a character without the trait could have more perks and higher HP from levels instead.
Not to mention that there's not much use in having high levels without the content to challenge.
Also skilled+good natured with high cha/int lets you have the highest starting skill in the game, about 57 on those skills if tagged I think? And small frame's downside is very noticable on Hardcore where limbs are only healable by bags/hydra, not to mention the use of those skill checks at early game whereas combat can be compensated through the use of either companions or cheesy gameplay mechanics.
With Small Frame ... once you have repair to 55, go to the top of the hill by Goodsprings Source (Barton Thorn's girlfriend). Damage your limbs with the Bear Trap, reset it with repair 55, heal on mattress, repeat 50 times (if hardcore, use hydra, doctor bags, weapon binding ritual, daturana, or healing poultice so you don't have to go to an owned bed or a doctor between each damage). This is the Tough Guy challenge that reduces limb damage by 20%, basically negating the debuff you get with Small Frame. You can even climb up there without triggering the rebuild if you go from the middle of the 3 wells, or by starting at Victors Shack and navigating south along the cliffs.
There are very few ways to increase SPECIAL, so giving +1 Agility is pretty big.
By taking Small Frame, you have an extra point that would have been used in Agility, that can now be used for any other SPECIAL. Agility increases guns skill & sneak skill, draw & holster speed, reload speed, and increases action points available for VATS. Also, it's required to be 5 6 7 or 8 for many of the best perks. Adamantium Skeleton, Toughness, Hit the Deck, and Tribal Wisdom (Honest Hearts) are also good to reduce/negate the Small Frame limbs damage debuff.
Check my channel for a video on how to go straight from Doc's to the Strip the fast easiest way that requires no combat or stealth boy, no fighting cazadores or deathclaws.
having higher level.also makes the dlc enemies harder. so in that way skilled is a benefit. I always take logans loophole for that reason
You are ignoring DLCs... 5lvls up from 35 easily
SO you avoid side quests and DLC and then wonder why you are underlevelled. ok
No shit if you only run the major quests you aren't gonna hit max level, but then you aren't gonna get all the skill books either.
adore how much love you have for this game to make this, fun watch for sure
This is the best NV walkthrough I've ever seen. I used to play on console when this first came out so this is a good start to be replaying it again but now on PC.
cheers legend
Very comprehensive, wish I had this guide for when I was solely going off of steam/wiki guides to create a "god" character. I've always made a high intelligence build and chose comprehension without realizing that it's not necessary.
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Man I _JUST_ started a new playthrough after several years, and I'm already nearly half way through...wish I'd saw this video before starting, shame about educated being useless and I also didn't spec much into strength (I have only 6 with the implant).
Great video and explanation though 👍 straight to the point and no waffling on for 5mins at the start like a lot of other youtubers
6 strength isn’t bad. Get the reinforced spine I think and you’ll get about 8, and if I remember right there’s a perk called weapon handling that lowers every weapons strength require by 2.
Great video. I always wondered if you could do this but never knew how.
Traits - fast shot and trigger discipline are pretty good. You just should know that they are counter-intuitive to use. Fast shot is good for snipers, since sniper rifles are so accurate that penalty barely matters, and trigger discipline is good for automatic weapons, since it allows longer bursts.
In response to the health regen isn’t that good statement, it stacks. I used the legion power armor you get from lonesome road dlc when you nuke the NCR which makes you regenerate health, then for the hat I wore the advanced vatti accelerator or whatever it’s called, it does the same thing, then you can get the solar powered perk along with the implant for a broken ass regeneration build (works best outside)
With thems good eatings you have all the healing you need. Only use for the implant would be for dead money on hardcore. However I beat it without it with moderate difficulty.
Rad Child is better and monocyte is still bad
the armor you mention is the broken piece of your build
the monocyte breeder implant is 1 hp every 10 seconds (6 a minute)
the halo headgear thing is 3 hp every 10 seconds (18 a minute)
the armor you talk of is 2 hp every second (60 a minute) thats basically a free stimpack every minute of gameplay you have to go out of your way to die with that
My main problem with the video is saying get all the skillbooks so casually, like anyone wants to go on the wiki and look for books for 10 hours. If I just dont get, mele/unarmed/survival or guns/energy weapons/survival you save 300 points(minus your initial points). If you pick mele or ranged weapons you can just ignore the other one + survival and skip the skillbooks. Plus you can get 1 less endurance and skip the charisma implant and put it in intelligence to help ignoring the skillbooks even more. The video would have been 5+ hours long if you included findind all the skillbooks
God forbid playing the game after this start
cool guide!
I'm reinstalling the game soon (after a whole decade!) and gonna use some of your tips
thanks!
Thank you! I've been wanting to do a low intelligence/high strength build for a while(named Lenny, of course) but the sacrifice of skill points has kept me from going through with it. Maybe I will finally do it with these tips
I have always liked the health Regen implant, saves you from wasting healing items between battles. Yea 1 HP every 10 seconds sounds bad but in practice I usually go into every encounter at full or almost full health. I would forgo using the charisma implant and get the health instead.
yeah, but You can also get bonus end from old war blues and lonesome road, those are permament increases, so can You not, technically have all of them? Alongside implants from OWB
@@helgrin8754 yeah and they stack, so you heal faster.
Isn’t reloading a save to change rng an exploit…
Well yes and no
There was a time I got to the Khan's encampment and New Vegas because something attracted the cazadores from the abandoned Khan tents to the ones at the road. And it looks like something that can be actively triggered and might be a safe alternative route,
this guide helps me a lot. I play since 2 days and doing the steps was much easier as expected.
Thx
S7 P1 E9 C1 I9 A5 L8
that is my starting build for most runs i do, it takes Early Bird and Claustaphobia Traits, it's basically a super strong build that cleaves through the base game with little issue and strong for many DLCs, i usually never went to max level for most my runs or even get to 40 most times, let alone 50, so i'm usually near max by the end of the game.
It's a very fun build with the constant special stat changes and is an exceptionally strong Melee build, though it wasn't made to be a melee build.
Edit: with more knowledge on how to min max the Skill points, my new build is
S7 P5 E9 C1 I4 A5 L9
This with all DLC bonuses and implants grants S10 (Reinforced Spine), P6, E10, C2, I5, A7 (my LR boost choice) L10... This is all before Traits too, which can give some good additions (i Reccomend Early Bird or Claustaphobia (Paired with Solar Power/ Night Person to off set the downsides) and Built To Destroy or Hot Blooded)
If you decide to use the "Skilled" Exploit for an extra 65 starting points on leaving Goodsprings and re take it, that nullifies the 1 lost point from Inteligence ((or 2 if you want) each Int point gives 0.5 Skill Points per level, or 25 in total from Level 1 -50)
I used to love 'Early Bird', but now I exclusively go 'Skilled' (without exploiting) and 'Built to destroy'. Just such good traits if you want to use the perks 'Super Slam' and/or 'And Stay Back'. In my build I try to go for both of them just for the fun of it, but also because there's so little ammo in Dead Money, that 'Super Slam' is a lot more efficient during that DLC.
@@RedSaint83 I use hot blooded a lot, as it's just a free damage boost when below half HP
@@RedSaint83 also "Bloody Mess" or "Slayer" is super strong in Dead Money, as it buffs your overall damage while giving a chance to instantly destroy all limbs and also directly buffs your melee heavily, which is something you'll use a lot in Dead Money
I never dump Charisma anymore cos Animal Friend is an extremely useful perk, especially during OWB.
@@rudolfantlerofficial Yeah but... in OWB the whole concept is to sneak, you're meant to have high science with high sneak paired with the sneaking suit to travel in a mostly safe fasion...
Charisma is good if you're using companions a lot anyway, but overall, no, it's not got good perks and a lot of them are buggy, Animal Friend being one of them, as it can break quests in certain places and actually do MORE problems in certain areas.
I hate when people compare exploiting to developer console commands. Some people like to enjoy exploiting the game engine and using meta ways to level up especially if you play on console so all ways should be covered that way you give the player options depending on how they want to play and sharing knowledge is awesome about the game and ways to manipulate it.
I’m about to go download new vegas on steam and exploit this glitch. That is more interesting to me than a non min-maxed character.
It’s a single player game too lol.
It literally is basically console commands, just longer. The goodsprings glitch let’s you get 50 perks but requires a ton of grinding. The ammo hot key glitch can give one a serious op advantage when combined with the goodsprings glitch. The bottlecap glitch is also op.
I still get educated because it helps make getting the skill books less tedious since it gives you some additional leeway.
You can creep up over Black Mountain, watching out for bear traps and a falling boulder, to get to Vegas quickly and avoid potentially needing the stealthboy so you can sell it/save it for later.
I habitually follow that route and stop by Repconn Headquarters for the Q-35.
I actually came up with a different method in my mind (haven't tried it yet tho but I'm positive it will work)
Basically you get your luck to 10 with Intelligence at about 7 or 8. As well as taking the "Skilled" trait for 5 extra points in everything. There's a glitch you can to earn another 5 points for everything but for the sake, let's say you're doing a exploitless, glitchless run. And then it's all about finding skill books all over the Mojave.
If I remember correctly, there about 4 books for each skill in the Mojave so all together that's 12 skills for each skill (without comprehension of course)
Plus with all the surgeries for each SPECIAL (minus Luck), your character should have about 40 in each skill. Assuming the character is level 1
"I'm not gunna pick skilled 3 times but I will save scum for the stealth boy"
okay
That bugged me too
was looking for this comment, I 100% agree
I really liked this video, thanks. I'll try that next run.
Great video. I would like to add that I found a Stealth Boy in one of the ammo boxes at the bottom Devil's Gullet, right under the wooden plank that you descend on. It's very close to Goodsprings, just slightly to the east. All I fought on my way there was 2 coyotes, should be doable at level one I think
I mean, if you call the skilled exploit cheating then so is using sprint mods to get to Vegas more easily since you can run away from everything and deathclaws. Plus, the exploit is coded into in the game, modding adds mechanics that were not there or intended
4:17 Its not cheating, it might not even be an exploit, unless we ask Obsidian themselves.
Someone who plays the game for the first time will still pick the exact same traits they picked from doc Michelle's house unknowingly when leaving goodsprings and at the sink.
it is cheating but so is using the sprint mod
Old world blues. Can make skill books and put all those wonderglues and books to use, and with comprehension you get 3 point per book (more with more rqnks) so each stat takes 30 or less bools which you find everywhere, and the glue can be farmed with mugsy. 1 mug is 2 wonderflues and 3 syringes
You can do it with 3 int if you take the extra time in honest heart to get a minimum of 3 books per crate where they spawn and a more lvl per lvl stat distribution
How does this not have more views?? Great video inspired me to do a legit play through after losing interest because of cheats
If you were to use exploits, all of this can essentially be skipped.
If not, then why not pick up the ncr outfit at black mountain to get to Vegas and grab the snowglobes at the vault and the fort? If you don't care about going straight into the lucky 38 right away then there's another snowglobe. combined with the graveyard globe that's 8k without selling a dime. Plus, going to camp McCarren for the monorail will net some gear from the fiends, so couple hundred caps.
There's a bunch of ways to get loads of money even without exploits. Like tsun said, the bounties are excellent. Combining the 8k, the gear, bounties and breaking every casino that's well over the required amount.
And by doing all this, you still have the black combat armor for you and a companion if you so please.
Very good for starters but for more experienced players, it's a okay start.
the great thing about new vegas is that there's an infinite amount of ways to break a level one character. You can reload dash with the revolver, you can do the skilled exploit, you can get implants at level one, you can do so many things its ridiculous.
Meanwhile skyrim the only thing you can do to get op is the alchemy enchant loop.
@@kiwifarmsalwayswins8316 block boosting too if you want to add onto the list of things. not that this is level one territory but you can nuke both ncr and the legion and have them not hate you. hell, I've punched the legendary bloatfly to death just bc of boredom. ive made a all 10 special, all 100 skill character before. there's a lot to the game that you can do, period. I've 100% the game and i only MAYBE have 700h in, and I'm still discovering stuff.
as for skyrim, not true. there's ways to break the balance of the game aside from just that, but not as much as fallout new vegas. I'm assuming it's because of oversights and or the gamebyro engine that new vegas runs on.
You don't need the ncr uniform either just run by the guards and jump on the monorail. They are not hostile after you exit on the strip.
Hi thanks for your comment. The reason why I don't use the snowglobes early on is because that requires you to enter the Lucky 38 and talk to Mr. House, which at level 1 means you can't negotiate for more caps for the Platinum Chip because of low barter. You also trigger a reputation reset with the NCR when you first leave the Lucky 38 and the soldier comes up to talk to you, which I choose to save until after I nuke them during Lonesome Road. This way you have no negative reputation with the NCR. There are also more suits of black combat armor in the game, so I don't care to sell them, and you can also get even better armor early game like Combat Armor Reinforced from gambling at Gomorrah. I hope this helped!
@@CamBamGames Hypothetically though I think it'd be faster still if you were to go to Vegas right away and gamble then. It saves out the stealth boy, selling everything and even the armor.
While I do know that it's scripted to happen using the rep reset after nuking might be considered a exploit by definition. Me though--I don't really care. I do it too but if it is a exploit then why not take the easy out to Vegas and get the implants that way?
If it's not a exploit then sure I understand, but like whoever said it you can just run straight into the monorail skipping black Mt altogether. it's scripted that they attack you but once youre in Vegas you're free.
How long does this take you, from the moment you leave ol doc Mitchell's to the implant?
Congratulations for this excellent guide, mate! I have just started a new game in Very Hard difficulty with this specific build, it seems really powerful. In fact this is my baptism of fire in Fallout: New Vegas, because I have never played it diligently until fifteen days ago. P.S.: Would you allocate to Endurance the extra point you get at the end of Lonesome Road? Because in this way you would be able to obtain all the implants (although the one for Charisma and the “PHOENIX” Monocyte Breeder aren't essential). Alternatively, you could allocate that point to Luck, raising it to 10, in order to gain a 10% Critical Hits Chance, once you have obtained the related implant. Therefore, if you wear Boone's 1st Recon Beret and if you trade Wild Wasteland (once you have unlocked all the special encounters in the base game and in the DLCs) for Built To Destroy using the Sink’s Auto-Doc in Big Mountain, your Critical Hits Chance will reach a great 18%, and if you have chosen Finesse, you will reach even a terrifying 23% 😎.
@@AnonymousAnonymous-qo8gr It looks like a weird bug, I recommend you to restart your game, I hope it will refresh everything up. You can choose up to two traits, I strongly suggest that you assign Built To Destroy or Wild Wasteland, besides Skilled. Actually it depends on how you like to play, just choose Built To Destroy if you want to create an awesome Critical Hits Build with at least 8 points in Luck in the very beginning of the game, or you could opt for Wild Wasteland if you prefer to enjoy Easter Eggs and quirky encounters filled with many unique objects, like the Alien Blaster, but remember that choosing Wild Wasteland will prevent you from obtaining the YCS/186, an extremely powerful Gauss Rifle, moreover, as far as I know you won't find more Alien Power Cells in addition to the ones you get from the Wild Wasteland encounter, whereas the YCS/186 employs the common Microfusion Cells).
If you want you can get +10 for every skill if you grab skilled when leaving goodsprings on the charactor editor and another +5 if you go to the sink auto doc
This is literally the most new vegas thing ever:
-Woke up
-spec your character correcly
-Steal stuff
-sell stuff
-go to casino and bet
-quit and buy luck implant
-bankrupt the casino again
Ring a ding ding baby, now its time for me to spend my time to play this shit again if I could get the mod to work correctly
Pro Tip : You can actually use the duplication glitch on all the skill books in Zion and the energy weapon skill book on Sierra Madre, that can get you to 100 skill right away
Only for pc
Dude Thank You so much , you should have a lot more subscribers , Thanks again mate 💞✌😊🖖
Fun fact, there is one more place to get a stealth boy in Goodsprings and it’s been there every single time I’ve gone for it. I’m not sure if it’s 100% or I’m just lucky but the safe in the old schoolhouse has always held one. Only protected by a couple of praying mantises and if you’re spending the time to do small quests then you can get caps for clearing it from Sunny.
I think its hypocritical to say that "you shouldn't go through and use the exploit to take skilled because that's cheating" and then recommend save scumming multiple times throughout the rest of the video.
You people just can't understand the RNG versus literally exploiting the games bugs? Are you mentally ill or not very smart?
We’ll just say the multiple reloads were the courier seeing the future with his crazy luck and he just had the best circumstance for the whole game.
savescumming isn't an exploit or a glitch though it's just reloading a save
@@nuwcz What would be the point for a dev to put in a system for a random chance event if they intended the player to cheese it with saves? My point is that both are equally as unintended by the devs
@@zaydengestures7275 still not a glitch or an exploit. and savescumming is intended, why would they add gambling cooldown in fnv if they didn't expect people to savescum gambling, when you add saving to a game you willingly know people will reload saves to get favourable outcomes. a glitch that duplicates items or breaks the gameplay is a completely different thing.
imo having to watch a guide like this is more unintended than savescumming. you're cheating by knowing exactly where to go, basically the same as if you played and savescummed back.
You can actually go with 10 charisma and 10 luck in order to get as many caps from Chet as possible.
Once you leave Goodsprings, you change it to your regular build
Now although this is the best method for general skills If you want proper perks, with the educated perk + 10 intelligence you get around 842 skill points with all 50 levels (+65 from skilled if I understand the perk) along with +45 from tag +160 can be gained from when you start equaling out to 1102 and if you do not care about your perks (or waste points on special) this is the simplest way to do it without grinding too much for books, as you’ll only need 198 more points. However, as the person in this video demonstrates you can just grind for more books, in all there is a lot of room for change, and it’s honestly quite easy to grind for books
Edit: and if you scum your levels and get infinite caps with Chet in the ghost town gunfight glitch, which I will not put here, you can get max skills before you leave good springs, and even if it’s not enough just get the comprehension perk and spend a little while grinding for books, you have far too many options so don’t stress to hard. I will say though, I spent like this video and one line in a calculator to write this, so correct me if I’m wrong
This is a really interesting vid, and you do a great job explaining. However, one small gripe with it, kinda feels weird when you label stuff like the extra perk stacking from skilled as "cheating" given its an exploit, but then turn right around and savescum to get the stealthboy, and even mention the savescuming for the extra perk magazines as an option. Thats still an exploit. Between the magazine spawn savescumming and the perk exploit, there's almost 0 difference outside how long it might take to get your desired result. And at least using an exploit with the perk stacking gives a negative. I dunno. Seemed kinda off to me. Otherwise good vid.
Only one of those two things is a bug and not a 'feature' of every game with a save function. If you play with one of the patches, the Skilled stacking doesnt work anymore because it's a unintended exploit, so they are different.
@@guber9339 Calling it a feature is a stretch. Theres loads of bugs, especially in Bethesda games, that never get patched. And there are features put in games to stop you from doing stuff like this, like how the loot is made permanent once you enter the house, hence why you have to save outside to keep rerolling. Saying this is a feature is like saying its a feature to kill shop keepers in skyrim and reload to change what items are selling. They are both exploits, one just has an easy fix, and therefor was fixed. If there was a way to code the game so EVERY item in the random loot pool was fixed into a solid state as soon as you start a game, they would probably implement it given this is an exploit thats been around in the creation engine for ages. But its simply not a feasible fix both in the engine they are currently using, along with how big the worlds are. 0/10 man.
Why would savescumming be an exploit? An exploit is an unintended mechanic, stacking the same trait when resetting your build isn't intended.
There is an anti savescum mechanic when gambling in the casino, so if there isn't one for loot spawning it's more likely intended
@@Yunoxz if it's an intended mechanic then why doesn't the loot reroll every time you load into an area? By that same logic everything that can be exploited but savescumming is ALSO a mechanic. So savescumming to get a critical hit in every situation>mechanic. Savescumming to pass any chance encounter>mechanic. Savescumming to get specific random encounters> mechanic. No, it's not a mechanic. It's an exploit. It's a way to work around the games actual mechanics to get a specific outcome you desire. By this same logic, again, killing every merchant in Skyrim to reload their inventory is a mechanic. Forgive me, but I don't buy it. I have a hard time seeing how good ol Todd was totally planning for people to spend 60 minutes killing the same npc over and over so they got the firesalts they wanted. An ACTUAL example of a mechanic and not an exploit is how oblivion merchants restocked every 3 days. You could easily wait the 3 days in game, and check to see what they had. And that goes for many other mechanics within Bethesda games. They have repeatedly shown that they have pre built in mechanics to help with certain issues that do NOT involve savescumming. Respawning loot and enemies in dungeons in oblivion is another great example. In that situation, you either: put in the effort to get the items the legitimate way, or you savescum. Of course the 2nd saves an immense amount of time, but this isn't about time it's about "doing it without cheating". Savescumming is an exploit. Nothing more. There is nothing to show that this is an intended mechanic put in by developers. The fact that he only uses savescumming to get around obstacles put in by developers just goes to show that. The game says "don't go this way", player goes that way, player will die going said way if not for one specific item, player savescums to get extremely specific item. "but it's a mechanic". Sure.
“i don’t use the Skilled exploit because it’s no better than console command cheating”
>save scums for stealth
boy, installs sprint mod
tbh following a build like this Is cheating. but cheating is fun so you know
lol, so if you die and have to redo a part, open the chest again and now you have more loot than last time what do you do? Quit the run?! Clown.
In what universe is Save Scrumming(Which is basically RNG) and glitching the same skill 3 times over the same thing? 1 stealth boy = 15 to all skills to you?
@@nebulous798 lmao no genius, that’s not save scumming lmfao that’s just dying and reloading a save. very different from saving right before you load a cell and then reloading again and again until the loot you want spawns. lmfaooo
@Jared C. but what if he got the loot in his first try? What then? Did that occurrence illegitimize his run? We disregard the fact that the Stealth Boy is useless, since you just ride the right mountain side and the garbage pathing AI can't get you, but that is besides the point.
The point is the devs designed the game around the possibility of you 𝐫𝐨𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐝𝐢𝐞 and getting the best loot, but its not designed to deal with you getting 3 times the stats, with no extra downside, mind you.
They are in no way, shape, or form anything remotely similar, as you tried to imply in op.
Hey, I get it, I also almost never save scum in my games, especially if I'm doing a blind playthrough, the difference is I don't pretend that thats the only 'legitimate' way to play a game.
@@nebulous798 no, it wouldn’t. I don’t see your logic. I’m not even against save scumming it’s just that his logic also makes no sense because he’s doing exploits (or planning on it if the first load of victor’s shack doesn’t give him the stealth boy) for crucial parts of his run but then claiming other comparatively minor exploits are illegitimate (the bonuses from taking skilled twice aren’t, as he says himself, remotely necessary to achieve max skills similarly to how exploiting for the stealth boy, as you said, is also unnecessary) i was just pointing out this fallacy in his judgement
something worth noting: you can snag a second stealth boy without killing Joe Cobb if you raid the safe in the goodsprings school house. might be worth having as a backup, just in case.
Funny that you chose to go left and use a stealth boy and walk past the deathclaws, when going right, hugging the wall, you can easily avoid the super mutants. There's the rock trap of course, but you can easily avoid it hugging the wall in a little indent along the way.
Also, I believe I read that the game will save the half skill point for next level if you have an uneven intelligence, so like if you have 5 like in this case, you save up half a point so you get 12 points first level up and then 13 on next level up, then 12 on next level up 13 on next and so on and so forth. Assuming you kept the same INT lvl.
I was a bit disappointed that temporary int boosts don't work when levelling up as coffee early on would be so imbalanced with its +3 int lol, but that makes sense.
“Using exploits is basically cheating” *uses a sprint mod* 🤡
That's just a quality of life mod really.
@@nicotinepoisoning most of these players are on console bro
Doesn’t help with death claws trust me😂😂
How To Be A Total NERD and Not Have Fun in Fallout New Vegas
Bro ur take on this is dumb stfu
if you change traits on tutorial end, and re-pick skilled, you have another 65 ability points free
and in the OBW dlc, if change skilled and re-pick, give another 65 ability points free for 195 totally
Good vid, i had a blast doing this
i've personally never used any magasines or hunted for skill books so although it may not be uptimal i'd personally go with educated over comprehension. the starting stats does however seem interesting
I’d be interested to see you do builds for New Vegas like unarmed and stuff, fully fleshed out like this.
unarmed is the most broken build doesn't need to be min maxed its just insane anyways
I have a really good build that uses energy weapons, high crit chance and damage, and light armor, and it works something like this:
S:2 (don’t worry, we’ll fix this)
P:6 (lowered to 5 from Four Eyes)
E:7 (no Charisma Implant)
C:1 (useless)
I:9 (I hate hunting for skill books)
A:7 (action points and perks)
L:8 (gambling go brrrrt)
So, Strength, with the Reinforced Spine perk from OWB, the implant, and the extra point granted by completing Lonesome Road, you end up with a strength of 6, with Weapons Handling that’s perfectly fine for most guns and energy weapons, and it’s enough to get Burden to Bear for carry weight
Perception ends up being 10 with the implant, Lucky Shades, and 1st Recon Beret, naturally your perception is actually 6 which is enough for the Better Criticals and Sniper perks.
Endurance ends up at 8 with the implant, which is enough to get the GRX Turbo perk.
Charisma is still 1 lol.
Intelligence ends up at 10 solely due to the implant, again, I hate looking at a wiki to hunt for stuff, I just wanna play the damn game.
Agility ends up at 8 with the implant which is enough for Tunnel Runner and allows for faster reloading of the YCS-186 Gauss Rifle
Luck ends up at 10 with the implant and Shades, if you plan on getting the Yesman version of the Courier Duster then make your Luck 7 instead and use the Nightwear when gambling early game.
Good spring schoolhouse has a safe with a stealth boy, super stimpack and some other goodies. A few magazines in there too like Salesman and Programmers.
I went with a high enough intelligence score to max my skills out on my first play. This is on console so no sort of unofficial patch or anything. I got to the screen showing a level-up with 100 in every skill, and it wouldn't allow me to continue until I'd spent the points. Broke my game. Since then I always try not to do this. Just can't be sure it won't bug out like that. I like the struggle anyway, though. I never take skill boosting traits and always go with a 1 in endurance.