the String Butler. Does it work ? Do I need one ? (fitting, test & review)
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- The string butler, what is it, how do I fit one, does it work and do I need one. Hopefully all these questions will be answered in this thorough review and tests of the String Bulter. This video also show in detail, how to fit a string butler on your guitar.
You can find out more about or buy the String Butler here; www.string-butler.com
The String Butler is advertised as being the solution for a guitar that wont hold it's tune. The advertising claims that the string butler reduces the angle the string passes over the nut and therefore preventing the guitar string from sticking and not tuning smoothly and correctly. However, I have noticed that the String Butler actually increases the angle of bend in the guitar string but it moves it further up the headsock of the guitar. I will fit install a string butler on a guitar and then test whether the String Butler actually does what it claims and can it reduce or prevent the string from sticking at the nut and therefore making the guitar tune up and stay in tune better.
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About a year ago I picked up a used Epiphone Les Paul that had some significant tuning stability issues. After hearing about the String Butler I figured it couldn’t hurt to try it before looking at other issues. I put it on the guitar when I changed strings and was very pleased to find the tuning stability was greatly improved. Less expensive and labour intensive than replacing the tuners or working on the nut, the String Butler made a big difference. I have no problem recommending this piece of kit.
Yes . . it's far easier than a new nut and the massive advantage is that anyone can fit one and then remove it later if you want . . 🙂🙂
I have half a dozen guitars with Bigsbys and they all had tuning problems. I installed a string butler on one and it worked great. I've since put 'em on the other five and it's made a huge difference. They work.
Yes they do 🙂🙂
Ive installed this on 2 of my les Paul’s and they stay in tune so much better than without. I had trouble with the G & D strings staying tuned, the Butler eliminated the problem. I can bend notes all day long ( I actually did this ) and it stayed in tune. Well worth the money.
good feedback . . 🙂
Right. I was careful to look into the String Butler only after I had eliminated other possible causes of tuning issues for my LP, and then, after I still could not get my D and G strings to maintain steady tuning, researched the String Butler as one of the solutions to this problem. No single solution to anything is a panacea; always a good idea to ask questions, research, get advice, and find out which solutions seem to work best for the most players in your situation. Thanks for the review, anyway.
I've had the string butler on my les paul for about a year now and just realized by watching your video that my strings were not on the roller. Had you not done the close up test I would probably had never noticed. Thanks
Glad I helped . . It's easily enough done . . 🙂
The string moves straight across the nut with the string butler reducing burrs and lockup in the nut. Without the string butler the string has to move at a sideways angle across the nut. This thing is brilliant.
It is . . 🙂
I had tuning issues with my Gibson SG. Its a 2007 standard. I've had it this whole time. A couple of years ago when I started teaching I noticed the SG would not stay in tune to save my life. I had been swapping usage so I hadn't noticed it was that bad. I just recently refurbished it myself and it never goes out of tune. I considered a string butler. All I did was replace my Klusons with Grovers. I hate how the answer is so simple sometimes.
The answer can be simple but not obvious . . great when you get it sorted though . . 🙂
Crap machineheads are always 99% the root cause of tuning issues or in the particular case of the Fender Jaguar, the bridge body design in total...
What on earth were they thinking as that thing actually moves about when you whammy it and never comes back to the same place twice.
Although I think since then engineers have solved the problem, so bye bye in and out of tune indie music that bands like Sonic Youth have made their whole sound on. But they (sonic youth) use them too now and swear by them as without it that guitar is detuned after your first dive bomb.
As is the stratocaster with its floating bridge setup relying on a very fine line balance of string tension pulling one ways and springs pulling the other to hold something perfectly in place in space to a point where a fraction of a millimetre either side will detune the string by as much as the precious intonation will the first time you whammy that...
So there are many things that can cause de tuning
But if your guitar isn't a Fender or has an experimental whammy bar or is a hardtailed guitar like a gibson then you can bet its the tuners.
BTW my favourite whammy system of all and the one that works the ultimate best is the Hagstrom one, with the Bigsby coming a close second but taking up way too much real estate to be practical or good looking on a lot of guitars.
If you put all the strings on first before you tighten the tuner nuts it automatically centralises itself.
Good tip . . . thanks 🙂
Thanks for a well thought-out video and tests. This is very convincing.I agree about modifying it to fit nicely inside the binding.
Thank you very much 😊😃 . . I've modified one for another guitar so it fits under the washers around the tuners and it looks like it was made that way. 😊
I have one on my Les Paul and it works a treat.
🙂
@@guitar-academy nice demonstration! Check out Tru glide from db instruments. Supposedly does the same thing but very minimalistic design compared to string butler. Do a video on it if you can.
@@allboutthemojo Interesting . . . They're out of stock at the moment, but it fits in with the sort of thing I review so I'll get hold of one. 🙂
@@guitar-academy great. The truglide does not seem to have any rollers where the string makes contact . How important do you think that really is? Those mini rotating drums essential?
@@allboutthemojo Honestly until I get one to test I can't tell you. I thought the same thing as you though, so it will be an interesting test. 🙂🙂
A very big plus for your video is that you took the time to mention the diferences between the three versions of the string butler.I have seen other youtube videos of the string butler but none have taken the time to talk about the difference between the three string butler versions.
Thank you . . I'm glad the video was useful . . 😊
I have a 30 year old Gibson Les Paul that was restored last year but still had the tuning issues from before. I recently bought the String Butler V3 and it looks to have fixed the problem. The G string was regularly going out of tune but has now stabilized and is holding much better. I can’t remember the last time I wasn’t constantly adjusting it. Thanks for all the helpful information. I wouldn’t have known anything about this if not for videos like yours.
Thank you very much . . I guess one of the good things about putting it on an instrument like that (that will increase in value) is it can be removed without leaving marks. 😃
I absolutely love your reviews!!👍🏼
Thank you so much! that's really nice of you 🙂🙂
Best review of this item yet ,thank 3
Thank you very much . . ☺🙂
I’ve wondered if this thing would work, now I know, thanks. I agree the 4 tabs would make me crazy & id have to trim them also which would be no big deal. Very good review, thanks.
No problem! Thank you very much . . 🙂
Waiting for my String Butler to arrive. I will be installing it on a Les Paul upon which I just installed a Bigsby B7. Roller bridge is a must for these, and the String Butler looked like the final piece to make for a perfect Bigsby install. Thanks for the video.
Sounds great! thank you 🙂
Great review. TY for your efforts and time to explain the pros and cons. I've installed a String Butler on both my Epiphone FlameKat with Bigsby Tremelo and Gibson Custom L5-S with Stetsbar Tremelo. On the Gibson I removed the "wings" that go around the tuning pegs as they were not needed after drilling a hole at the point of the Butler and securing it to the screw that holds the truss rod cover. I exchanged several messages with Butler and he suggested foam tape and/or 3M command strips to help secure the String Butler. I found that works fine and believe it will not hurt the finish.
I find the String Butler works very well on both guitars.
I posted photos on the String Butler Facebook page so you can see the Butler on the Gibson Custom L5-S.
Thanks for the feedback . . That sounds like a neat and professional looking fitting. I must admit I've taken the wings off the one I use on my Washburn acoustic and it looks a lot nicer (and of course does the job) . . 😊
Very well done video. All bases covered. Best Sring Butler review.
Thanks a lot 😊
I have String butlers on guitars and really like them. Thanks for sharing !!
Thank you for watching . . 🙂
I installed mine pointing the "wrong" way on purpose. (Consequently, I did not have to remove any tuner nuts). But because, there is an advantage to this method in that the angle around each roller is less (more obtuse) because the rollers are closer to the nut (farther from the tuning posts) than if it were installed per instructions. The string butler is held in position simply by the string tension. It doesn't seem to "float" around on the head stock. It hasn't moved since it's original position that it found when I installed it. More importantly, it works great I haven't had any tuning issues. Before the string butler I had tuning posts interfering with adjacent strings (Sloppy head design/build)! It's an Eastman AR372 and has a very large head with large distances between tuners. But now it tunes easily AND stays in tune. Well worth the money / time to install vs. the ongoing frustration of tuning issues.
That's interesting . . I recently reversed the installation on one of my acoustic guitars and it improved the function. It juse goes to show experimentation can be a good thing 😊😃
I've had one on my Epiphone Les Paul for years. The stability was pretty before installing it and now it is very solid. Even after installing a Duesenberg Les Trem and using the vibrato bar it is nice and reliable.
That's great to hear . . 😊
Superb review. Thank you for this.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you very much 🙂🙂
Very precise & informative review!
Thank you kindly! 😊😀
This works!! I installed it on my Les Paul and it's worth it. Got mine on eBay with an authorized seller. Buy it!!
Oh, have to check this out!
That's how I got this one . . Ebay.
Clever idea. Thanks for reviewing it.
No problem! thank you very much for watching 😊😃
04/28/2023: This was the best informative video for this product, per the 3-warnings, the fit, and do I really need it, if I have no tuning problems. Thank you Mate, Cheers for Orlando, Florida USA
Thank you very much . . nice to here from you here in Wales, UK 😊😃
Very well done video mate. Funny thing is I play bass and I still watched the entire video. Good show. Cheers.
Glad you enjoyed it, Maybe I've converted you from the dark side . . . LOL 😂🤣
Excellent demo and review.
Thank you kindly! 😊😊
Great camera work
Thank you very much ! 🙂
For the D-G strings on my Gibsons, I use a Fender staple string tree and bushing. Long screw through the center truss rod cover hole and the job's a good 'un. Had them laying around so $0. Helps some. Makes the guitar feel a little better with less tension in the nut.
Good tip . . 🙂🙂
A very good and widely informative video about a very good product (if you have a tuning problem).
Glad you liked it! 🙂🙂
I put one on my Epiphone Les Paul Custom, and it's really improved tuning stability. Prior to installing this, I would need to tune the guitar 4 or 5 times while playing for an hour. Now I check tune before I play (which is usually spot on from the day before) and don't touch it afterward. Well worth the money if you have tuning issues.
Nice one . . 🙂
I play mainly Fenders so I don't have a need for a String Butler, but I did find your video very interesting and excellently filmed and demonstrated. Kind of reminded me of Open University programs from the 1980s - and that's a good thing, no shouting, no "What's up guys! Hit the bell, like and subscribe" histrionics. Saying that, I will subscribe now, cheers!
WOW . . . thank you very much 😊😃
Very informative. Thanks for the tips.
Glad it was helpful! thank you 🙂
That grinding of was the first thing I thought of when the video has come to installing the butler. And yes again you thought of that too, which i had hoped for. Otherwise I would surely commend on that LOL.
great minds and all that 🙂
@@guitar-academy Maybe yes Hahaha
String Butler and a graph tech nut on my Lester, and zero tuning problems.
🙂
Thanks for doing this review. That said, I feel like some of your tuning stability issue is due to how you wrapped the strings onto the posts after you stuck them through the post holes. Have you tried other common methods of wrapping the strings around the post and making them winch down on themselves to “lock” them in?
Great product! I have one on my Gretsch G2622T along with a roller bridge....no problems.
Very nice! 🙂
My 5622T is better with a roller bridge but I'll take your advice on the butler; thanks.
Excellent video
Thank you very much! 🙂
Sold! Great video!
Awesome! Thank you! 😊😀
An outstanding & very informative video that has earned you a like & a sub, well done :-)
Thank you very much! 🙂🙂
I own three of these great invention. A good way of centering the Butler is to tighten strings G and D before tightening the nuts on the E tuning heads. A little bit of lubricant on the rollers cant hurt either.
Good tips . . 🙂
Made one myself, works great, don't know about actual string butler, but idea itself works.
wow . . I'm impressed . . 🙂
SUPERB job
Thank you very much 😊
The binding and "over-shooting" tendency when tuning is a issue of the slots in the nut, not just the tuners themselves. You probably already know this, but for the sake of those reading the comments, there you go.
Good feedback . . Yes, I can safely say the tuners have nothing to do with the issue on this guitar . . 🙂
looks to me like the nut slots are too deep
I've fitted a string butler to my guitar an LTD EC-10 and it's a massive improvement over the original configuration, you can reverse the fitting of the string butler, that is to say it can be fitted 180 Degrees from how you have demonstrated, this is if you have sufficient room from the truss rod cover; I think that they even mention this in the fitting instructions.
Yes, they recommend fitting it that way to acoustic guitars because fewer acoustic guitars have truss rod covers 🙂
Perhaps putting a drop of oil on the srting butlers rollers would ensure it working longer and increase its sensitivity, would be good for long term use especially in coastal areas where there is more moisture and Salt in the air so it doesnt rust and pit. Thanks for a great and informative video
Good tip . . I live 200 yards from the sea and 20 feet from a river, perhaps I should do that . . 🙂
Dry graphite would be the answer as any wet lubricant will bind eventually and need to be cleaned out of the roller
A very comprehensive review, and I'm sure it works as far as you have described it. I do, however, see at least 3 reasons not to get one. First, the issue of break angle (up/down) simply doesn't seem to have that much of an effect. Alan Carruth has written about this at length and his research suggests that, for both saddle and nut, the difference is minimal provided their is sufficient downward pressure to transmit string vibrations sufficiently and define the beginning and end points of the strings prcisely. Second, the break angle (side to side) can certainly be a problem, but a lot of companies cut the string slots at a slight angle to account for this, and any handmaker will do this of you ask, or a guitar tech will cut you a nut with this adjustment for a lot less than the price of a string butler. Finally, lots of handmakers and some companies design their headstocks so that the strings pass over the nut without any side/side angle. The telltale sign is that the head is tapered away from the nut (all pedal steel guitars which have standard heads are made like this). Even budget company Seagull has this feature, although the angle is not completely elimiated on their guitars. I have guitars by makers Nigel Thornbory and John McQuarrie (AKA Northwood), neither of which have any side/side angle at all. Hoaving said all that, I also have several guitars with standard pegheads, and have never had the problem the butler is supposed to fix, and I play a lot in altered tunings and string bends. Of course, I'm only experienced with acoustics. It may be a boon for electric players where the bends are a lot bigger. In summary, I think you presented a very balanced and honest review of a product which seems to be an effective, expensive solution to a problem which maybe affects a tiny minority of players.
Great close up camera work! There's a lot of guitars where strings will bind where the string pass other tuning machines on the guitar. Considering this for an Eastman AR503CE. I am concerned that the extra material under the 1st and 6th string tuning machine washer will be a problem. Not sure if there will be enough threads for the nut, with the higher nut. Think I need to find a way to check before ordering. You end up with less post for the string to wrap around on? Not sure I like the idea of adding weight to the headstock. Seems minor changes seem to change the sound.
I have an acoustic with some issues on the D string. As neat as this device is, I think just working on the nut a bit would be the better option.
Yes, it would definitely be a cheaper option 😊
I found this very interesting and learned alot. Many thanks for your time and effort. 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it! thanks 🙂
Ideally an extra turn on your post would also help tuning stability, but a good review.
Why do you say that? You don't think the string is being pulled through the hole, do you? More turns is more turns to settle and longer being unstable doing it.
@@richsackett3423 Not neccesarily. An additional turn on the post (say a total of 2 on the bass strings) will increase the friction against the post and minimise slippage. The extra turns are under greater tension (provided they are would flat to the post) and will therefore stretch very quickly, and yes i do notice, from experience, that these extra turns do help stability.
Thanks for the excellent video. I see holes for screws. Should you use these? I wouldn’t want to drill into my headstock.
No I would drill for these either. The holes offer are an optional mounting method for guitars where the method I used wont work, for example vintage tuners which aren't bolted down at the top. 😊
I got one when they first came out, worked like a charm wish I had thought of it first LOL
yeah . . It would be a great thing to own the patent on . .
Thanks!
thank you 😊
Excellent video, especially with those break angle graphics and close ups ! Can I ask where you found
that aftermarket Tune O Matic roller bridge?
Thank you very much . . I bought the bridge off eBay but I can't find the seller anymore. Perhaps a search on eBay for a roller bridge will find the same product from a different seller 😊😃
@@guitar-academy Cheers, appreciate that lightning fast reply. :
@@steveb7714 No problem . . it was just chance I was on the computer 🤔
great video, i also like the idea of the string passing through a radius on the roller, this will remove the strain on the string at a single point, and instead distribute any angular force along the entire radius of the roller, so i think that, even though it appears to have a larger break angle, it may actually be smaller, as it needs to be considered the angle from where it exits the roller and travels to the peg, not from where it enters the roller..
[addition.. wont be the entire radius, just the length of the arc along the roller, on which the string travels, doh.. i can still see it, just cant mathematical describe it]
ofc i could always be wrong, illness has made a mockery of my critical thinking capacity.. so hopefully someone reading can confirm/refute/correct my thinking? regards
Great observation. I tend to be way to detailed in my thinking also but didn't pick-up on that fact. You should be able to take string at a 90 deg angle and still have less friction than the angle thru the nut.
Good review. That's a good point on the angled nut slots. I looked at getting a String Butler for one of my Gibson's, but I ended up getting some Gotoh locking machine heads for £60 instead, mainly for aesthetics. I'd definitely say go for the String Butler for straight nut slots, if you're on a tighter budget.
Thank for your feedback . . 🙂
Very nice guitar! Always wanted an ES style guitar but never got the chance as there was more appealing designs for me at the time.
That was a cheep one, but still really good quality . . 🙂
If you want smooth tuning and stable tuning, the real option is to dress the nut with proper nut files so the grooves are smooth and profiled to the string. The sound is usually improved too because the strings do not 'sing' in the nut slots. There's a bit of a black art to it, it's not difficult but there is a learning curve and no two instruments are the same, and the files are about £100 per set.
You should purchase the Music Nomad Peg-Winder = No slipping. I think this device Does what it's supposed to-do. Thankfully, I play a Suhr & Taylor and have no tuning issues. I like the rolling bridge-saddles. Always use Nut sauce to lubricate: nut, saddles & all string contact points. Nice demo & information.
Thanks, I check out the Music Nomad Peg-Winder 🙂
I have no idea what Nut Sauce is, but I've always rubbed a pencil lead (graphite) on the slots in the nut to lubricate them. Works like a charm.
I had to oil the rollers to get it (a knockoff) to work on my Les Paul, but now I can do big bends on the G without having to retune. I still lube the nut.
A bit of lube or graphite helps a lot . . 😊
One thing that is often needed, is to tighten the nuts on the tuners, and sometimes the screws on the tuning heads.
These work. The objective is to move the break angle forward of the nut so no string bind. I have v2 installed on 3 guitars; 1 Gretsch and 2 LP's all with Bigsbys and roller saddles. I feel this is when these work best.
There is no denying it has worked really well on this guitar . . I am going to try a troublesome acoustic I have next . .
If u have pushed in bushings, they have adapter kits for them. No modifications needed.
Yes, they do do an adapter . . 🙂
Did it improve tuning stability when using the vibrato arm?
I never had a problem with that, my problem was getting it in tune in the first place. But the vibrato arm is staying pretty stable . . 🙂
Hello, viewers , on this butler, It’s been out along time now. I venture a guess , because I wanted one but never got around to it. On my Gibson like tail pieces I do the wrap around the tail. It seems to help the tension on the bridge. I imagine it gives more sustain. I like not putting pressure on the nut. This I’m sure it does. What else it does I’m not sure. I’ll watch the rest to find out alittle more. Well better tuning is good, I agree.
This is the first time I'v seen the String Butler and instantly thought, That Will Work. The second thought I had was wanting to kick myself. For Not Thinking Of It First!
Yeah me too . . it seems so obvious in retrospect . . 🙂🙂
Has it fixed tuning issues long term? I see the strings gently turning the rollers and I see how well it fits but my question remains. Does it fix whatever tuning issues you had?
Yes . . the tuning was sticking. So you could turn the machine heads and nothing would happen and then it would suddenly snap past the where I wanted it to be. Now it moves smoothly into tune as I demonstrated . .
Lude is all you need
You have about 1 to 1 and a half tuner winds less on each string than I do and I thought I didn’t have enough. Do you cover this point in another video?
That's probably more because with the string butler in place it needs a little more string and I put the originals back on.
I don't cover it in any specific video but I will in the future after your question . . 🙂
I have a String Butler on my ES-335. It works as advertised, at least on my guitar.
Yes . . it definitely works . . 🙂
I put it on my 175, supreme, and junior. Next up, my gretschs and SJ 200 acoustic.
Works great
Thank you 🙂
The radius at the break angle occurs is important.
Is this Del Preston from Wayne’s world 2? “ I had to beat them to death with their own shoes”
lol . . I wish . .
Thank you.
thank you . . 🙂
Do the rollers work that well on the unwound G, B, and high E strings?
Yes . . they do, but it harder to show on camera . . 🙂
Are those plastic washers come with it? For me I would put a thin padding on the center too to avoid marring the headstock..
Yes the plastic washers do come with it . . good idea, anything to protect the headstock is good 😊
@@guitar-academy yeah I saw in the other vid of yours between v2 & v3..😁
With how monotone you sound I honestly thought you didn't like it. Nice surprise at the end haha
lol . . it kept you watching . . 🙂
I put one one on my 2009 Les Paul that has an issue when is isn’t being played. The product works. I was surprised at how it effects tone and feel of the guitar. Not saying the result is bad, just not seeing anyone selling-reviewing this product mention this fact.
weird . . I think the reason nobody mentions the change in sound is because for most people it doesn't happen and there is no way it can effect the feel (apart from making the head a little heavier). Are you sure you didn't change strings or do something else at the same time that effected your guitar ? ?
I suppose on some guitars it might affect truss rod access (I have one that has the first tuners are close to the nut).... Also are the rollers prone to rattle and is lube favourable? Otherwise these look quite useful.
I didn't lube (as you could probably see) but it wouldn't do any harm. The rollers don't rattle because the pressure of the strings keeps them in place, but it's something I'll watch out for. 🙂
Interesting, can you obtain the rollers or the whole attachment in brass. Why? I am assuming most of the contact tension is now on the roller instead of the bone nut hence this may change the tone and possibly the vibration traveling through the bone nut into the neck. Just thinking out side the square!..
No . . all the lateral tension is still on the nut so all the resonance is being transferred into the neck. That's why the rollers move up and down easily, so they don't effect the lateral tension. Good question . . .
Thanks for your reply. I thougjt i put it out there. I like all your vidoes all my axes are master builds.
A really nice idea. It might save string breakages up at the nut. Might eliminate or push head-section string resonance way above the playing frequencies. I do wonder about balance with the extra weight on the neck end. On the other hand the extra mass of the head might give extra sustain, (if you want it of course.) An alloy version could solve that. Is it possible that the lower tension might case the string to move inside the nut during heavy playing? I do agree about a tiny amount of lubrication on the roller.
The String Butler is only 30 grams so it is very minimal.
I orded one of them looks like it would work i do like rollers for the strings i have them on my saddles now with this it should take care of the tunning problems
I like rollers too, especially on older style tremolo systems. Hopefully your tuning problems will be history 😊
can you put up side down to have a smoother angle?
Yes you can on some guitars. They recommend you put it on upside down on acoustic guitars. It depends if the truss rod cover gets in the way. But even if it does I guess you could modify the truss rod cover . . 🙂
I really like the Faber products as well German made too Good stuff 👍
Yes . . pay for the quality and you get quality. 🙂🙂
@@guitar-academy Hey speaking of that and it's kind of besides the point but I purchased a Celestion CreambackM for only 65 dollars and got scammed I was sent a twenty dollar bag of disposable masks I should have known it was too good to be true So be careful out there People are taking advantage of the current situation Be safe my friend 😊
@@paulcowart3174 Thank's for the warning . . the world has gone weird at the moment . .
Gibson should really just redesign their Headstocks. Think I’m going to have to get one of these for my 336
I think because the big guitar names use the headstock shape as part of there trade mark its hard to change . . 🤔
What bridge is that on your guitar???? been trying to find one to fit my bass vi
The bridge is the original bridge, but the rollers were put on separately. I can't remember where I got the rollers now, I think it was eBay or BlackDog . .
@@guitar-academy thanks dude
What about graphite nuts? Do I need one if I have a Black Tusq installed already?
My personal opinion is that Tusq are very good and you can't get much better than that . . . 😊
@@guitar-academy I mean, do I need a string butler if I have a Tusq?
@@kiillabytez If your guitar is difficult to tune because the strings stick at the nut or headstock then a string butler might help.
@@guitar-academy So, what you're saying is, no, I don't need one then.
I used to just file the nut slots at an angle towards the tuners then use a pencil in the slots to coat it with graphite
hi, what about esp, ltd les pauls designe? are these have same tuning problem?
This is a solution to a problem that doesn't happen on all guitars of any make, it depends on the guitar, strings, nut and setup of the guitar. A lot of Gibson design guitars are fine. 😊
@@guitar-academy thank you for answering and tried to help me ;)
@@cimen9793 Sorry I couldn't be more helpful 🤔
I need something like this for a Kramer Banana headstock.
I hope you find something . . . 🤔
Very interesting but in light of the fact that i don't have tuning issues with my guitars i won't be buying one. One tip for smooth tuning is when changing strings rub some graphite (from a pencil) into the grooves on the nut
Yes it's amazing how well this works . . good tip 🙂
That's too old school.
I've had alot of black nuts.
Works great.
I've no tuning issue with my Les Paul, but that break angle will eventually damage the nut slots
I hadn't thought about that, but quite possibly.
Don’t know if you need one, but mine damned sure works.
😊😊
Have you tested the TruGlide by DB Instrument Amp?
Sorry, not yet . . 🤔
@@guitar-academy I was thinking that since the TruGlide does not have rollers, it still has friction to help with the issue you mentioned with cheap non-locking tuners while still straightening the strings at the nut. Also the price is much lower than the String Butler. Just ordered one for myself.
@@quochuync Yes, they seem like an interesting alternative and I can imagine advantages and disadvantages but as you say, price is a big advantage. I hope you get good results from it . . 😊😊
Thorough and thoughtful, as you'd expect from a northerner...
Thank you . . . 😊
thank u
You're welcome! 🙂
Mounting it the other redirection will fix break angle. Probably enough clearance & you could remove truss cover or just a screw if needed. Taller washer? You can certainly see images of such placements on google. If you are joining the modern world to fix tuning I'd suggest getting get a proper compensated nut too.
Mounting in the other direction is how you fit them on acoustic guitars with no truss rod cover. It works correctly as it is so I see no advantage in creating work and making the truss rod inaccessible. 🤔
I couldn't help but notice that you only have a couple winds around the post Not sure if it matters but I like to have 3 to 4 myself Seems to work for me and don't have any issues Good demo 😊👍
Normally I would do the same but because it's been a demo guitar and the strings have had to be re fitted, they've just ended up that way . . I didn't want to put new strings on until I was sure I wasn't going to have to take them off again . . 🙂
I just removed the nut and replaced it with locking one on my lp.
That's interesting what sort of tuning system are you using ?
Put a couple black marks on the rollers also and you will see the rollers moving much clearer...I like the product though...
I'll try that, but I need a new marker first . . the ink was running out. 🙂