STIGA Dynasty Blade Review | Xu Xin Edition
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- čas přidán 6. 07. 2024
- Hey guys! Here's our latest review of the new high end blade by STIGA the Dynasty Xu Xin Edition! The legendary Xu Xin helped STIGA create this blade and uses it himself!
Dan is joined by Tom in the TableTennisDaily Studio where we give the blade a full in depth analysis on how it performs!
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Let us know what you think of the Dynasty Xu Xin blade! Be sure to like and subscribe, thanks guys! 🔥
TableTennisDaily looks pretty amazing!
it is harder/stiffer than Boll ALC? 🤔
Can you please compare it to Long 5 or Viscaria?
What is rubber have been combined on both side of blade ? Dan.
@@MaxPower2307 no
Shame you couldn’t get Xu Xin on another collab.👌
Bruh chill I already sold three kidneys already.
hmm... tips on how to get em?
@@Tired_m0nkey blackmail
Lmao😂
thx for the first review on CZcams
This was exactly what I was looking for 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Great review. Still want more review about dynasty, especially want comparison with other famous blades such as viscaria and long 5.
Yes. I’d really like tomknow comparison with long 5 and Viscaria too.
Wait this review for long long time
Please review the Nittaku Acoustic/ Violin series!!
Since you are reviewing the blade, you should have used your preferred rubbers tenergy 05 and dignics 05 to remove other factors since you used these rubbers on your tb alc. in this way as well, you could have made a direct comparison of xu xin’s blade and tb alc. putting the genesis rubbers put a question whether the difference or same feelings is brought either by the blade or the rubber. Thanks anyway and keep making videos. I love your channel. :)
Sponsors bro.. They are in for the 🤑
Totally !!!😂
Needs good brush to be consistent. That'd mean, 80% of us amateurs are not good enough to use this
Its just your technique ajustments
I wouldn't make comments like 'us amatuers' there's gonna be a lot of semi pros watching lol
@@gab5012 Semi pros are not amateurs lol. Then again, they brush well, unlike us amateurs
@@adlan1823 yeah but you say it like most people watching are amateurs, a crap tone of people watching this channel are trained players with good technique. I’m pretty sure that’s who most of the reviews are targeted at.
well the blade was made for a penholder, which would need more ball feel like a all wood blade. the elasticity is rated power on the stiga website which gives the player that to play spin. thanks for the review. I, like you guys thought that the blade would be too hard, but now I think I can follow through with purchasing the blade as a penholder. would've been nice if yall tested the blade with some harder chinese rubber.
thanks
i've thought this for a while as a penholder, but at least at high level, it seems that speed and precision is always more important than feel and spin. I feel the plastic ball more than anything is destroying the viability of penhold, so blades like this do inspire hope. have you tried the wang hao blades or hurricane series? they seem to be very unique in composition and very suited for PH play. i'm yet to try them.
@@jameslivesey8322 I'm currently using skyline neo 3 with nct intensity (xx old blade) forehand, using xiom omega 7 pro on back. My playstyle is like a wang Hao MA Lin mix heavy on backhand with strong serve and 3rd ball attack. I've tried the hurricane rub but found it to lack the touch and feel of skyline neo. I also tried it without neo and found with the skyline it's way too weak but strong tacky on serves. And I absolutely agree with u on the new ball. The plastic completely benefit shake hand hitters and makes it harder for us penhold spin varying styles to succeed.
it would be better if you: compared it to other popular carbon blades of similar composition (butterfly, dhs etc), actually used the rubbers it was designed for (DHS FH at least) and had some, even brief commentary on how this is designed as a penhold blade and how that might differ from SH play.
I use this blade (ST) with T05 rubbers and I love the combination!
Awesome to hear Antuan! Thanks for watching 💪
And you can make a living out of it ? And it won,t last long either..
@@882828jc Now i use Butterfly Moonbeam ST
@@antuan_tt1809 yeah but Dynasty carbon is great blade. One year later still Moonbeam?
Why wasn't the Genesis 2 M and S used for this review? It would have been a good opportunity to review them too.
Tom's got a good backhand. 👌🏼
Aha yeah he always has the upper hand on me in the rally due to his backhand! 😅
Hi Dan/All, interesting new blade. I see that the blade is available in three handle types. Is the Classic handle the wide flared handle on previous blades (i.e. Legend)? My current setup is Carbonado 145 (Legend) with T05 2.1 both sides, which has served me very well.
Judging by your vid, this setup has a ridiculously short arc when counterlooping a slow spinny opening loop. It allows some 'illegal' shots, even if the incoming ball is low and loaded with spin. The ball doesn't go long. Looks like this is the main feature of this blade - you spin and counterspin everything that moves.
Yes this blade is made for players WHO has long moves and for countershots ( Genesis Has very short arc but its not spinny as everything from ESN or Butterfly or Chinese top level rubbers). This blade is slow but when you put very hard rubber and a lot of booster IT is ballistic, like you said put spin on table and counterloop or block everything. Perfect choice for lazy blockers with Dignics 09 c. Hoi Dom Kem and Audrey Zarif use IT and I think IT is hella underatted blade
Could you review Timo Boll CAF?
I want to know the differences between other timo series and CAF!!
7:28 nice backhand shot!
I just bought a stiga infinity vps v with juic nano rubber, I like the paddle but I think it feels a little slow after a couple months, any suggestions on a new paddle
Hi, I'm a beginner at this sport and I'm looking for a better blade. But I use an allwood blade. You mentioned "carbon feel" and "woody feel" what is the difference between the two? This will help me decide on my future blade upgrade. Thank you in advance and more power to your program.
Am I the only one who supposed Tom is Xu Xin ?
yes
275??! 50 goes to whoelsaler distributer....50 goes to retailer.....170 goes to Stiga...5 goes to XuXin
Yea Right
Review hurricane long 5 x
Do a complete video comparing the carbonado 145 and the dynasty
Can you make a video about equipment needed at different stages
venkata srihara bhaskar sunkara yes
I like Ryu Seung Min comparison :)
Haha it came out of no way 😂
I bought this today! Hopefully its not disappointing :p
I play a Viscaria Shakehand and am thinking to switch to this blade Penhold and get thrown back years of training - do you think I will enjoy the challenge or get frustrated very quickly?
I've played cpen for soon 30 years and will be changing to SH. There aren't any advantages to play cpen. But I've adapted a style which I've never seen in cpen so I have a superb backhand and a wery strong forehand.
I put on some grip tape and hold out way longer on the handle. The BH is pure power and control.amd feels super natural. But I'm still gonna switch to SH beacuse it's more pleasent to play and don't cramp my hand to much.
can you do a review of the Neo Skyline 2 blue sponge?
dear Dan please review xiom feel zx3 and Omega 7 tour
Finally!
Tulsi 🔥
Tried it with TSP Super Ventus on FH and Rakza 7 on BH. The combination became too heavy! Though Super Ventus feels better for BH here! Any recommendation for a FH rubber?
Harikraine 5 neo.
Which has more control carbonado or dynasty carbon? Dan mentioned that the dynasty is faster . Which of these two can generate more spin?
Dynasty carbon is made for spin and Woody feel. IT is like Maybach all wood blade but its not for everybody.
so basically the xu xin and non xu xin version are the same blade right? You just pay more for the design?
Do you guys know any similar but cheaper blade like this?
Shouldn't the Xu Xin version come with pen grip only? Weight would go down even more then ;).
You should do a review on stiga pro carbon
can you compare to boll alc?
So are they putting the rubber on the blade or what?
Hey Dan what do u think about sealing blade with sealer ?
Sealer ?Don,t tell me you can wake up after you spent your arm and leg n it..You want t save now ?
What different between read Raper and black Raper
If it is difficult to use with hard rubbers, just imagine how it is for Xu Xin with his super hard chinese rubber! Probably the hardest rubber on the world tour.
Not really. 39 degree plus boosting makes the rubber a bit softer than you think. Plus, boosted H3 and Skyline 3 are just as fast and even more spinny than Tenergy.
That is chinese degrees! They use a different scale in china! And I know it is spinnier, atleast when you hit very hard (which xx does).
@@mega2codnoob Well yeah. It's DHS scale, 39 degree in DHS scale. Have you used a boosted Hurricane 3 or Skyline? I have used both boosted and I can tell you you don't really have to hit it hard to get it going.
I also think xx has the national version of sg3 neo with that special blue sponge
Can you kindly review Clipper 75 thanks
Which racket is he using actually
230 $ основание 😩😦. Туда бы ещё накладки Tenergy 05 fx и была бы самая дорогая ракетка в мире) . Жаль, что у меня не будет такой... =(
Dan, what about fishing and lobbing?
Is this faster than the infinity vps v
Please review ovtcharov no. 1 senso blade :/
He’s already done that
why is it not a penhold paddle?
luxon4 because nobody on european market would buy. You can get Penhold version of this. But it would be rather awkward for a Shakehand player to try and review this in Penhold
how the dynasty compare to Carbonado 45 ?
Dynasty rob you more..and you can make them more happy.
There's no better blade than STIGA Dynasty Blade Xu Xin Edition - at least until the next blade will be reviewed, which will then exhibit much better qualities than the STIGA Dynasty.
I think they dont really understand the blade when saying that hard rubbers are difficult to control with this blade. It is a chinese style blade with hard outer plies and flexible feel (what was used to be called "soft" back in the day) which is ideal for hard and tacky rubbers. Using softer rubbers as a workaround to get control of this blade is like thinking you are playing european style with a chinese style blade ... it will work, but its not ideal.
Rip i hoped xx was playing you
?
What rubber for it?
Can you plz make a video on yashaka mark v for semi pro players
Hey Suparno we are looking into this :)
@@TableTennisDaily i am waiting to see the video on mark v it will be very helpful there are no proper mark v review across CZcams
hey just buy the normal dynasty unless you want the intimidation factor of the xx version
Good rubbers
i got the dynasty carbon penhold xuxin edition and it weight 97g.... it is ridiculously heavy for penhold...
The blade itself is 87g, not 97g.
And where are the rackets of xu xin classineta?
He used to play with Stiga Intensity NCT and the Rosewood V. Also prior to switching over to his own Dynasty Carbon, he played with DHS Wang Hao for a short time.
That point at 7:33
🤗😀😊
I see a lot of stupid argument about wood hardness. at less than a 10th of an mm thickness the wood grain structure plays more rolls in the elasticity properties. The effect is accentuated a few fold in compound layers as well. just pick a few koto layer blades and non koto layer blades and measure the rebound timing in slow motion and you can argue from there per se. We are ultimately talking about the hardness 'feel' of koto layer on a table tennis blade. Not your home furniture. You can come up with so many ways to science it out with real world data.
Pongfinity maç yap
is it better than the Boll ALC?
Doesn't look like it ..... those rubbers suk ......
Hi, thanks for the very informative video. Please can you let me know what type of softer rubber you recommended in the video, I didn’t catch its name. Thanks Gaetano
G R they mentioned a Tenergy 05FX
Who else wants a Tom vs Dan 1 set showdown as a 100k special?
czcams.com/video/uAe5YDBG8PU/video.html
@@HarryWizard 💪 Enjoy!
Should have used DNA Pro H that Rubber Suks .... blade Looks slow
Well... for big hands the thinner handle is definitely not an improvement 😭
'Hes playing like Ryu seung min in the 2004 summer Olympics'... im dead 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
cheapest place to get it seems tt japan
I just bought one and it doesn't feel, look genuine. It has 98 grams and in the review is 89. :(
I think every manucfaturer release same product in various weight, because different person need different weight.
It can vary up to 10 grams in weight
I’ve heard of the weight of the dynasty Carbon going even over 100gr, you just got a rather heavy one. the range is definitely +\-10gr
Could you review Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Off, pls?
it's amazing. i mean, as a blossoming penholder, I have tried: some yinhe blades (good for trying out materials but not the best), analox bt 550 (my first blade All+ thin spin machine, Stiga Infinity, Butterfly ZJC, Nittaku Septear, Nittaku Acoustic and the MEO. admittedly, I use hurricane 3 on the forehand, and haven't used this on other people's blades. But by far the best for me out of the ones I have mentioned are the Septear, Infinity, Acoustic and MEO. I currently use the MEO. the septear is 7 ply and lighter, so is very effective for close to the table driving. the infinity is also light and fast, quite good at controlled, fast topspin. the MEO and acoustic being heavier and of harder material take it up a notch. I find the meo to have a very solid but in a strange way soft feel. It has a soft core but very hard outer ply. some flex but feels solid on blocking. definitely a flexy blade though compared to more extreme carbon blades, and not the best at smashing. but at hard, controlled topspin this blade excels. the feeling is fantastic (I've had two already) and it's very cheap. the intensity, which i have read was a copy of the MEO specifically for XX, is more than twice the price. before the intensity was a thing, XX used MEO. there was also a period when XX used faster Stiga all wood blades like the maple, ebony, rosewood series. but he reverted to the intensity, and played that for most of the highlights of his career. basically, XX and Ma Lin have been MEO players for a long time.
I have tried the blade. Definitely one of the best penhold all wood blade. Great feeling, control and spin. However, it doesn’t have a carbon layer, so it results to be a slower blade after the new plastic ball comes into play.
Thx for the replies 👌
@@solomonleung0312 yeah, i'm definitely not on your level! when I play with carbon blades compared to my MEO, i just feel there's way less feeling and way more speed, both too much for me. I usually don't see too much difference in spin though, as I think Spin is almost entirely generated by technique and rubber, with the blade only contributing to throw angle. I'm not sure if the MEO has a higher or lower throw angle than carbon blades in general. I suspect that it differs quite a bit between blade thickness, inner or out carbon, etc. but to me, the MEO is very balanced. slightly better as a looping blade than a hitting and blocking blade, but controlled, around 85g, crisp, decently fast. Also note, the Stiga Intensity is the same composition as MEO. Xu Xin used to play with MEO, and because of CNT's sponership with Stiga, Stiga introduced the Intensity for Xu Xin. I'm not sure about quality and how it plays, but the intensity is lighter and considerably more expensive. even in the plastic ball era, Xu Xin played his best TT with this all wood, MEO knock off. something to consider for us mere PH mortals.
Dan play with Ma Long
DHS Hurricane Long 5 Review with Ma Long would be sick :O
I thought it was pronounced dynasty
British accents are a bit different.
4th!
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Dope! Thanks for subbing!
Koto, like Limba, is not a hard wood! They are both on the medium to soft side of wood.
xxxTheWildRedxxx Koto is a hard wood for table tennis blades for sure. Limba is definitely softer.
@@fedor6595 I am building table tennis blades since more than 15 years. I do have many different Limba and Koto veneers at home. Whenever I look into wood databases they show comparable physical properties for Limba and Koto.
What is your source?
@@xxxTheWildRedxxx hi thanks for your comment, I find koto wood to be quite a lot harder than limba actually. Which blades do you find similar where one is using limba a the other using koto?
@@TableTennisDaily I was talking about the properties of wood here and not about how table tennis blades feel. I know that it is possible to build blades that feel hard using Koto outer.
However you keep on saying in your reviews that Koto is a hard wood. That is just not true. You could just read about it in any wood databases that you can find in the web.
xxxTheWildRedxxx no offence but koto has a 25% higher hardness rating than koto on the Janka scale and when it comes to table tennis blades this is hugely significant. A table tennis ball is extremely light after all. Koto is also a known tropical hardwood. It’s obviously not a very hard wood but it’s much harder then limba when you’re talking table tennis blades and that’s what’s important here. So to sum up it’s 25% harder than limba and koto itself is defined as a hardwood.
Can you please do a more genuine review where you talk about pros and cons and not only pros? Then these would be usefull... The way these reviews are now, everything you review is the best equipment ever, but it isnt😢
To be totally honest I really liked this blade, I've used the stiga hybrid wood for many years and never found something which I would think about switching for and this blade is the closest thing to make me really consider changing. Obviously not suited to everyone but for me personally it's great. I'm sure other people wouldn't like it as much 👍
They talk about the pros and cons are you blind? Also it’s stigas most expensive blade ever so obviously it’s going to be good. 🤦♂️
@@tommaynard8101 please compare the dynasty carbon with the carbonado 145 in terms of control ,spin and sweetspot . Which of these would be better for looping?
How about the genuine version(non xu xin) edition? Same fill or not? Exp the weight
@@tommaynard8101 well I'm 2 years behind. But I also use the stiga hybrid wood and it's their best blade ever. Such power and control in the same blade and it's ridiculous. Used tenergy 05fx on FH and tibhar short pips on BH. Cpen player but switching over to SH and looking for a blade which is similar to my hybridwood but why is it so expensive? It's a blade for God's sake.
20%go Xu Zin.the rest go money sucker of company. The fact is,who is behind that blade..And how long they been trainning. NOT because you got that stupid mind or money to buy a damn blade to make you a better player..Doing that kind of review ,just promote you to be more stupid.
Which has more control carbonado or dynasty carbon? Dan mentioned that the dynasty is faster . Which of these two can generate more spin?
Definitely dynasty. Yes, surprisingly they blade feels like a wooden blade with extremely great feeling and control. However, its speed is still as fast as the carbonado 290. Speaking of spin, due to its wooden feeling, dynasty can generate a lot of spin when serving or pushing backspin.
@@solomonleung0312 have you played with the carbonado series of blades? Since they have limba outer plies compared to koto on dynasty carbon .I thought carbonado should have more dwell and provide more spin? Your thoughts?
narendran ramakrishnan I have tried Carbonado before. I am sure that Dynasty has a longer dwell time. Yes, Dynasty indeed has a harder koto outer wood layer, but at the same time it uses the newer textreme+ carbon layer. The carbon feel is not as strong as carbonado, but with the same speed. So i think it has more spin as well.