10 MMA Narratives That Were Dramatically Proven Wrong

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  • @AboutMMA_
    @AboutMMA_ Před 2 lety +1482

    No. 1- Chaels "Alleged' losses

    • @jbcb7509
      @jbcb7509 Před 2 lety +151

      Undefeated and undisputed that’s a real champ

    • @stabyourcat
      @stabyourcat Před 2 lety +95

      You'd think after 4 years this joke would get a little stale, but no, it's still fresh as a daisy! I still laugh super hard when another extremely creative MMA fan rehashes it.

    • @charlievalentine2220
      @charlievalentine2220 Před 2 lety +28

      This still makes me chuckle u know he is the true undefeated champ 🏆

    • @codyarsenault4299
      @codyarsenault4299 Před 2 lety +47

      He let NO ONE close. I mean how do you beat the man with biggest arms in Oregon?

    • @giga_chad9
      @giga_chad9 Před 2 lety +41

      @@stabyourcat what joke? The only joke are these alleged losses!

  • @ald3n507
    @ald3n507 Před 2 lety +566

    If you didn’t know who font or Vera was you’d think that font was the one who absorbed 300 or something strikes

    • @bernardomunozmp9874
      @bernardomunozmp9874 Před 2 lety +65

      Chito's ability to block/absorb punches was clearly shown, also chito's elbows and more damaging significant punches was what destroyed Font face

    • @neonbrigador3928
      @neonbrigador3928 Před 2 lety +52

      Large portion of Robs shots landed on Vera’s high guard and counted as significant strikes.

    • @bernardomunozmp9874
      @bernardomunozmp9874 Před 2 lety +27

      @@neonbrigador3928 100% you can clearly see it, or lack of, in chito's face

    • @GalactusOG
      @GalactusOG Před 2 lety +27

      Imagine what Chito would do to Omaley in a rematch?

    • @anthonyramos9841
      @anthonyramos9841 Před 2 lety +18

      @@GalactusOG Chito has been active fighting top contenders since he beat Sean while Sean has been padding his stats against TRASH CANS but I’m willing to be Sean DOES NOT want to fight Chito anytime soon

  • @n1k0abc34
    @n1k0abc34 Před 2 lety +67

    “You gotta be good at sucker punches, and you gotta have a good 50m dash”- Jorge masvidal

    • @CommanderSilence
      @CommanderSilence Před 2 lety +2

      🤡🐭

    • @branlopgar
      @branlopgar Před 2 lety +16

      To be fair, he told us several years in advance he's like that and that's how he rolls. If we accepted and made him an MMA superstar despite it, that's really more on us than on him

    • @dustingaethje1332
      @dustingaethje1332 Před 2 lety +2

      @@branlopgar Hey, you accepted it. Doesn't mean everyone did.

    • @branlopgar
      @branlopgar Před 2 lety +5

      @@dustingaethje1332 Maybe not everyone, but a pretty sizable part of the MMA community did. He was a really popular fighter, UFC 244 and 251 sold like hot cakes and no negative press when he started his own promotion.
      It was until Usman KO'd him and Covington had wars against Roid-man that the narrative started to change and Masvidal started to lose popularity. Then he supported Jake Paul before his boxing fight with Askren (again, no surprises there. Masvidal hates Askren's guts and no wonder he helped anyone to train for a fight with him) and that's when the narrative against Masvidal got rolling. And it didn't help that Covington dominated him comfortably before the sucker punch. But before all this, Masvidal was the man, and we already knew he has a knack for sucker punching mfers

  • @JebeTheGreat
    @JebeTheGreat Před 2 lety +461

    WMMA is not so different from the heavyweights. Both have some quality talent, but beyond the elite the dropoff is pretty massive.

    • @jacksdad734
      @jacksdad734 Před 2 lety +25

      Yeah. Go look at the rankings. It fluffed up by having a lot of the girls ranked in several divisions.

    • @branlopgar
      @branlopgar Před 2 lety +31

      With that one, I feel it was the least accurate take in the video.
      With all the women's fights we have been getting, even among the elites, we have seen far more stinkers than bangers. For every Weili vs Joanna we have three Gaethje vs Chandler, and for every Ngannou vs Lewis we also get two Namajunas vs Esparza 2.
      At 125 Valentina reigns supreme, but her reign has two duds (Carmouche and Maia), a fight that should not have gone to the fourth round (Murphy), two dominations (Chookagian and Andrade) and a murder (Eye) that naturally is the one clip they always play when it comes to Valentina. And this is talking about the #1 P4P female. I get it, everyone has off nights, but for elite levels, those off nights can't be this bad. And also the fighters are not held to the same standard as men. You can't have a fighter, no matter how good of a submission wizard you think you are, start hard sparring until you get to the ranked opponents.

    • @mortyjames5897
      @mortyjames5897 Před 2 lety +18

      and at least with heavyweights you at least get KOs

    • @cristiandelvillar3121
      @cristiandelvillar3121 Před 2 lety +16

      @@mortyjames5897 and have slow, sluggish, grappling-free, kick-less yawnfests

    • @dxburner222
      @dxburner222 Před 2 lety +17

      @@cristiandelvillar3121 still better than wmma

  • @thehighcommunity247
    @thehighcommunity247 Před 2 lety +164

    "The stand-off with Derrick Lewis that we won't talk about, followed up by First round murder town until his rematch with Stipe..." First Round Murder Town...I can dig it.

  • @thirtythree504
    @thirtythree504 Před 2 lety +37

    You guys kinda failed to debunk some of these

  • @swifty123
    @swifty123 Před 2 lety +24

    Top 10 narratives that were proven right:
    - Pat Barry always comments “first” here because he likes getting to the videos while they’re young and early

  • @Operation3Sixty
    @Operation3Sixty Před 2 lety +90

    Is anyone tracking referee stats? Given reffing is so subjective, i'd be interested in seeing how refs compare to eachother. How quick they are to stand the fighters up, how quick they are to stop the fight due to strikes, early vs late stoppage tendencies... etc

    • @tabasco.15
      @tabasco.15 Před 2 lety +5

      Where are your likes?!

    • @Jeepsteve1982
      @Jeepsteve1982 Před rokem +2

      Yeah then maybe we could finally establish that Herb Dean is the worst referee in the history of athletic competition.

    • @waves1all1day1er1day
      @waves1all1day1er1day Před rokem

      They don’t keep ref stats because certain refs would have huge stats in certain categories like stoppages simply due to their seniority thus reffing mostly super fights where fighters are harder hitting or overall more skilled. Which would make the refs stats look a certain way just cuz they always ref the best fights

    • @desyncer
      @desyncer Před rokem +3

      @@Jeepsteve1982 Herb has a lot of questionable reffing moments but he would never beat Steve "a heart beat is intelligent defense" Mazzagatti

  • @PerfectPanels9
    @PerfectPanels9 Před 2 lety +49

    I remember when DC said "Francis is doing jiu jitsu" 💀😂

    • @ethanedwards7756
      @ethanedwards7756 Před 2 lety +5

      I feel like that’s what everyone was thinking during that moment. One of my more casual friends I was watching with said “isn’t this the guy that knocks peoples heads off?” After the takedown

    • @getintheflask
      @getintheflask Před 2 lety +8

      He did finish with a Kimura earlier in his UFC career

    • @champ1159
      @champ1159 Před 2 lety +2

      Francis has a bunch subs, that's because in France it was illegal to do GnP

  • @NoiseBombS14
    @NoiseBombS14 Před 2 lety +70

    Uncle Chael proving everyone wrong about Anderson Silva being unstoppable is number 1. I already know it
    Undefeated and Undisputed

    • @tonbog1053
      @tonbog1053 Před 2 lety +1

      Word around the camp fire was White told him not to "Iron Mike finish him to fast" for the numbers hints what happened in the rematch. I might be wrong but the gym can be a sowing circle

    • @tonbog1053
      @tonbog1053 Před 2 lety +1

      Still love Chael our MMA Ric Flair

    • @listenup7284
      @listenup7284 Před 2 lety +1

      That's stupid considering Chael got stopped in both Anderson Silva flights.

    • @NoiseBombS14
      @NoiseBombS14 Před 2 lety +7

      @@listenup7284 No he didn’t. Run the fights back. He stopped Anderson in both fights

  • @alexisafox
    @alexisafox Před 2 lety +130

    Bruh.. never in my life would I have thought Kamaru "30%" Usman would become one of the most exciting fighters to watch in the UFC. Little did we know he really was using only 30% of his skillset on the way up

    • @myrontate3937
      @myrontate3937 Před 2 lety

      Exactly

    • @spensermitchell4106
      @spensermitchell4106 Před rokem

      He’s mentally strong

    • @EmmeryMyers
      @EmmeryMyers Před rokem +3

      Usman had the exciting reign Woodley seemed primed for, Woodley had Usman's boring reign.

    • @gttrmgc3284
      @gttrmgc3284 Před rokem +3

      The only entertaining thing that Usman has done was get knocked out by Leon. shrug

  • @10secondlaughs96
    @10secondlaughs96 Před 2 lety +37

    Francis was a sizeable betting favorite against Stipe in the rematch

    • @Vitoloko210
      @Vitoloko210 Před 2 lety +15

      He was a favorite in both, the narrative that he is only a KO artist was still present however.

    • @madgavin7568
      @madgavin7568 Před 2 lety

      Most of the fans thought Stipe was going to get the job again though. Turns out the bookies actually got it right and the fans got it wrong.

    • @PrinceIsot
      @PrinceIsot Před 2 lety

      The hardcores weren't sold

  • @applethunderspice3072
    @applethunderspice3072 Před 2 lety +9

    This is why scoring damage is so crucial and a 10-9 must system for mma works but is also bizarrely inefficient

  • @God_of_Destruction_Kakarot
    @God_of_Destruction_Kakarot Před 2 lety +22

    It's hilarious that there's people that still think the beef with Colby and Jorge is fake! They are choosing to quadruple down and die on that Hill LOL

    • @umungus518
      @umungus518 Před 2 lety +3

      I can honestly say that when the fight was first announced i thought it was fake lol but I was proven wrong. Its sad though because I was a masvidal fan until he attacked Colby out in public. No respect for him after that.

  • @Ooga_Boogaaaaa
    @Ooga_Boogaaaaa Před 2 lety +120

    The thing is narratives change due to fighters actions. Usman has talked about increasing his ko rate relight before he KO burns. So not that narrative is wrong necessarily

    • @tabasco.15
      @tabasco.15 Před 2 lety +2

      Agreed, I suppose he's going off of the people that to this day call him Snoozman for some reason.

    • @numa2k147
      @numa2k147 Před rokem

      Narratives are made by people simply stating their opinions, nothing more. And should be taken as such

  • @beeno3487
    @beeno3487 Před 2 lety +57

    gotta say, as a wrestler, watching colby and usman "wrestle people to death" was absolutly mind blowing, and not just people, world class strikers. I was put into wrestling when i was 6. when i was 17 i saw colby covington for the 1st time, just wrestle and manhandle someone that could easily take his head off with a good punch, and thats how i got into mma. thats also when i realized that wrestling is indeed a martial art and an incomplete one at that. add kickboxing and bjj and your an mma fighter :)

    • @siontifictm7366
      @siontifictm7366 Před 2 lety +3

      Nothing mind blowing about it. Anyone can hold someone down, it’s impressive when they look for subs or gnp

    • @beeno3487
      @beeno3487 Před 2 lety +10

      @@siontifictm7366 yes chimiev held burns down so easily. And Colby held usman down the entire fight. Easy.

    • @schultemeister6975
      @schultemeister6975 Před 2 lety +3

      @@siontifictm7366 not true it’s very hard to hold someone down who’s the same size or bigger unless your a wrestler

    • @3starbadman
      @3starbadman Před 2 lety +6

      @@beeno3487 "Just hold them down, bro, it's literally just gravity bro, it's ez bro" lmao

  • @adabsurdum5905
    @adabsurdum5905 Před 2 lety +77

    Tommy I love your work and value your opinion so much, but the fact you ever considered that Forrest Griffin was going to beat Anderson Silva is downright silly.

    • @l9o6p7a3k4a
      @l9o6p7a3k4a Před 2 lety +34

      At the time it wasn’t.

    • @GalactusOG
      @GalactusOG Před 2 lety +24

      He was beating legends near their primes back then. You must be new.

    • @dubiousdevil9572
      @dubiousdevil9572 Před 2 lety +3

      @@l9o6p7a3k4a It was though. Forrest never really was all that great and everybody following the sport knew Anderson was on a whole different level. At least I knew that.

    • @l9o6p7a3k4a
      @l9o6p7a3k4a Před 2 lety +6

      @@MultiSlowjamz you must be new lmfao if you followed more than just the casual perspective of Silva you’d know at the time Anderson looked like he was trash and Forrest was the well rounded young gun on a win streak with a couple of give or take loses vs 2 HOFers in Tito and jardine

    • @GalactusOG
      @GalactusOG Před 2 lety +15

      ​@@dubiousdevil9572 Forest had recently beaten a slew of champions and legends that nobody gave him a chance against. So people really thought that maybe he could pull it off. Stop being such casuals.

  • @balkanboi06
    @balkanboi06 Před 2 lety +29

    Also Jose Aldo literally did the same thing as Chito did with Font. Lmfao Font ended up being nearly finished a bunch of times in his last two fights even with more strikes landed which did barely much.

    • @shadowwolf2713
      @shadowwolf2713 Před 2 lety +1

      Yea aldo got beat up pretty bad by font shot for chitos legs cause chito would kill aldo in a five rounder

    • @mmacaine
      @mmacaine Před 2 lety

      @@shadowwolf2713 idk about that. Aldo destroyed Chito.

  • @braydenyap7455
    @braydenyap7455 Před 2 lety +9

    The striking stats did tell the tale in the Vera fight, one had 3 KD and one didn't...

  • @Hunter-os5yx
    @Hunter-os5yx Před 2 lety +24

    “Fedor only fought cans” is the biggest joke ever he literally beat every great HW on earth during his reign. Prime Fedor also murders Couture. Dana is lucky that fight never happened.

    • @carphucker2973
      @carphucker2973 Před 2 lety +1

      Nah. His shit was a stage show bro.

    • @mariuszpudzianowski8400
      @mariuszpudzianowski8400 Před 2 lety +3

      @@carphucker2973 you can say that same thing about great fighters in the UFC, with amount of shady shit that been going on with Jon Jones career for example

    • @jameshaygreen6400
      @jameshaygreen6400 Před 2 lety +3

      @@carphucker2973 best heavyweight roster at the time was in Pride by far

  • @mrImAwesome485
    @mrImAwesome485 Před 2 lety +25

    Hate to talk about statistics on a video literally dedicated to debunking them, but WMMA in the UFC only has 2 knockouts across all their divisions so far this year. Lightweight had the same amount of knockouts on the Blachovicz/Rakic (the most recent) card

    • @user-mt2jm7vy6i
      @user-mt2jm7vy6i Před 2 lety +5

      Looking at last Namajunas title fight... Yeah, this divs are boring AF. Every single female headliner this year did put me to sleep.

    • @PrinceIsot
      @PrinceIsot Před 2 lety +1

      And that still doesn't change the list entry or it's validity. Divisions go through dry spells, happened to the WW division when none of the top ten guys were fighting each other happened with the HW division twice now and LHW.

    • @tbriecheese
      @tbriecheese Před 2 lety

      recency bias at its finest lmao

  • @CYMotorsport
    @CYMotorsport Před 2 lety +29

    4:05 mate I’ve heard you quite literally say this yourself. You were consistent in that it’s not true in your opinion but fans do persistently think this. I wanna say it was in a video about title reigns or something to that effect. Not saying you think that, but you absolutely went on about it in a condescending ( rightfully so) way. I too think it’s dumb but it does exist.

    • @ClownScript
      @ClownScript Před 2 lety +11

      @mVP get the ball rolling lol

    • @standingappa1160
      @standingappa1160 Před 2 lety

      what are you talking about?

    • @jeremyweems4916
      @jeremyweems4916 Před 2 lety +2

      I just read this in a British accent. I'm American.

    • @Havok999
      @Havok999 Před 2 lety

      @@jeremyweems4916 same cus he used the word “mate”

  • @Nick1994H
    @Nick1994H Před 2 lety

    Everyday you guys don't upload there's a 10-15min window where idk what to do with myself. Love to see it. Keep up the great work

  • @thedankswordsmantm
    @thedankswordsmantm Před 2 lety +41

    I always hated the narrative that Demetrius was beating bad fighters. Or should I say that without him the division was empty?
    I thought the Cejudo fight proved that there was a ton of talent at 125. But DJ was just that good. Because Henry tore through most of the division as well before getting demolished against DJ the first time. Lost a split to Benevidez and then tore through everyone again before his controversial win over DJ.
    I was really sad we never got DJ vs Cejudo 3. And now look at the division it's fucking wild. Could you imagine if DJ, Cejudo and even Sérgio Pettis were still there to mix it up with KKF, Moreno, Figuredo, Askarov and the ilk? It wouldn't be quite as deep as 135 or 155, but it would be comparable to 145 or 185. I just think people literally can't comprehend what is going on in a 125 fight and they don't like the idea of a 5'3" man that could crush you.
    Also no one complained that Anderson was beating nobodies when he was on his champ run..... The criticism just never made sense to me.

    • @Hempujonsito
      @Hempujonsito Před 2 lety

      DJ fought cans like Ray Borg defending his belt on fight nights LMFAO
      Thankfully King Henry saved the division and fought guys DJ ran from *cough* Dillashaw *cough*

    • @HunterGargoyle
      @HunterGargoyle Před rokem

      I always said Anderson Silva never fought anyone good i also found Silva to be a clown show, the devisions were empty without DJ or Silva...

    • @aleksandrilarionov6545
      @aleksandrilarionov6545 Před rokem +1

      @@HunterGargoyle Silva was a marvel to watch fight, his record speaks for itself, the "cans" argument doesn't make sense, defending the belt usually means defending from a top contender, who was in his division isn't up to him, sometimes there can be barren divisions but I think Silva is an all-time great

    • @HunterGargoyle
      @HunterGargoyle Před rokem +1

      @@aleksandrilarionov6545 all Silva did in his fights was clown around, there was no one any good at middleweight to give him even minor trouble, put Anderson Silva in Pride's 185 devision he'd have been destroyed by Vanderlei and all the other top guys there

    • @HunterGargoyle
      @HunterGargoyle Před rokem

      @@aleksandrilarionov6545 he was boring to watch

  • @ives3572
    @ives3572 Před 2 lety +56

    Really funny and at the same time really ironic how Justin Gaethje labeled Charles Oliveira a coward and a quitter leading up to the fight, only to get knocked down first before being forced to quit under Charles' RNC. So happy for Charles that he has overcame and conquered despite his troubles in the weigh-ins, still the undisputed champion for me and no screwed up .5 missed weight will change that!🇧🇷🏆🙌👏
    If he manages to succeed in pulling off the win over a formidable opponent that is Islam Makhachev next, he's passed Khabib in terms of lightweight GOAT status for me.

    • @reservoirfrogs2177
      @reservoirfrogs2177 Před 2 lety +8

      Beating Islam would make him completely indisputably the lightweight G.O.A.T
      Something I would never have ever considered 3 years ago

    • @mariuszpudzianowski8400
      @mariuszpudzianowski8400 Před 2 lety +8

      "He is a quitter" oh wait I have to tap and quit cause I'm choking - funny shit. Seriously tho, Gaethje wasn't kidding when he said he trains BJJ once a week.

    • @therezzman4806
      @therezzman4806 Před 2 lety +4

      When he beats Islam, he will be the lightweight GOAT for everyone in the sport. They can cry until their tears get dry but nothing will change that fact when it happens

    • @MynameisBrianZX
      @MynameisBrianZX Před 2 lety

      Gaethje is known to be full of shit when he’s trashtalking. Take his previous title shot, he kept talking about how his folkstyle wrestling was going to neutralize Khabib, knowing full well he has actively avoided wrestling his whole UFC career and called wrestling in MMA a bitch move.

    • @tmerchead1
      @tmerchead1 Před 2 lety +1

      When trash talking goes wrong!

  • @DJjune7
    @DJjune7 Před 2 lety +7

    Early stages of a youtube video comment section: weirdos ENSAMBLE!!!

  • @10secondlaughs96
    @10secondlaughs96 Před 2 lety +44

    These weren't narratives. Anderson was -460 against Chael, -675 against Maia, -330 against Forrest

    • @ViniciusRodrigues534
      @ViniciusRodrigues534 Před 2 lety +2

      What makes you think that bets aren't part of the narrative? Actually, this bets shows how the narrative was strong in that time.

    • @Hempujonsito
      @Hempujonsito Před 2 lety +1

      @@ViniciusRodrigues534 oh boy, if you think bookies buy into narratives, you're actually clueless

    • @viljamtheninja
      @viljamtheninja Před 2 lety +1

      @@Hempujonsito If you think they don't, you're even more clueless. Unless you're saying that literally every fight is rigged and literally every bookie knows it.

    • @viljamtheninja
      @viljamtheninja Před 2 lety +2

      Odds hardly say everything. Lots of fans don't bet or even pay much attention to the odds, narratives have lives of their own. Hell, just CZcams MMA has tons of narratives all of its own, completely irrelevant about odds.

  • @strise1234
    @strise1234 Před 2 lety +10

    Tries to debunk that fans aren’t thrilled about small fighters, then tries to debunk that fans aren’t thrilled about women’s mma by comparing their low finish rate to the previous mentioned small fighters.

    • @Malygosblues
      @Malygosblues Před 2 lety

      Yeah I thought it was really weird how Flyweight was portrayed as this electrifying division. When it has mild hype at best.

  • @yarpyepiddy
    @yarpyepiddy Před 2 lety +24

    #6 (women’s mma) absolutely has not been proven wrong. There’s one good fight to every 25 fights, and that’s being generous.

    • @IncredibleMD
      @IncredibleMD Před 2 lety +6

      Comparing the women's divisions to the divisions you just had to argue weren't snoozefests was an odd rhetorical tactic to employ. Yeah, Weili vs. Joanna is great, but one good fight doesn't prove anything anything more than Anderson Silva vs. Demian Maia proves Silva was a shitty champ. Hell, Silva easily makes up 30% of the Top Ten Worst Title Fights, and he's still talked about as one of the sport's legendary champs.

    • @BigSteve9713
      @BigSteve9713 Před 2 lety +1

      Nope, it's been proven
      Wrong, you just hate

    • @mariuszpudzianowski8400
      @mariuszpudzianowski8400 Před 2 lety +6

      @@BigSteve9713 yeah, not too long ago we had that banger between Rose and Carla or did we? Idk, I felll asleep after second round of that shitshow

  • @thomasholford7897
    @thomasholford7897 Před 2 lety +8

    If we’re being honest, GSP didn’t fight the best MW in the world when he beat Michael Bisping, Robert or Yoel would have been completely different

    • @zachlegrand7820
      @zachlegrand7820 Před 2 lety

      @@ejy123 no one is going to argue that

    • @atruedovahkin8254
      @atruedovahkin8254 Před 2 lety

      Wasn't bisping the champ tho? He was obviously the best MW stop hating clown 😂

    • @thomasholford7897
      @thomasholford7897 Před 2 lety +8

      @@atruedovahkin8254 so can you honestly say that Bisping could beat Yoel or Robert during that time, Robert’s striking was way above Bispings and Yoel probably would have straight murdered him in look at it objectively and not be biased toward Bisping, right after Bisping lost to GSP kelvin gastelum absolutely blasted him into retirement

    • @reservoirfrogs2177
      @reservoirfrogs2177 Před 2 lety +1

      @@thomasholford7897 Mike took that fight on short notice immediately after being choked unconscious

    • @thomasholford7897
      @thomasholford7897 Před 2 lety +1

      @@reservoirfrogs2177 I know he saved the UFC Shanghai Event but it still doesn’t change that that the fact that he got KO’D and then retired one fight after you really think he could have fought either Yoel or Robert and won?

  • @jg5004
    @jg5004 Před 2 lety

    You guys are so close to 1M subs!

  • @axlefoxe
    @axlefoxe Před 2 lety

    Love this channel

  • @extreame7304
    @extreame7304 Před 2 lety +6

    Forgot to mention that Nunes sold 5 ppvs in total

  • @Lukas-ri3le
    @Lukas-ri3le Před 2 lety

    So this episode so awesomely worded. Love it :D

  • @Arseni118
    @Arseni118 Před 2 lety +4

    I dont think the issue with Kamaru is that he's bad or boring we can all agree he's fantastic, but it's his personality. Idk man something about him really rubs me the wrong way, like he's trying so hard to be liked and it comes off either inauthentic or desperate. Idk man, I guess I just don't like the dude.

    • @IncredibleMD
      @IncredibleMD Před 2 lety

      Those rivalries were exciting solely due to the exciting rivals he had. Jorge Masvidal could have a more interesting rivalry with himself than Kamaru Usman could with a fighter who wasn't carrying him.

  • @benji8215
    @benji8215 Před 2 lety

    I loved the newspaper graphic at the start,v well done

  • @MrDude180
    @MrDude180 Před 2 lety +15

    Hmm a fair amount of these were proven right before being "proven" wrong

  • @keaganlockwood9294
    @keaganlockwood9294 Před 2 lety +2

    This video was so much fun. “Murder Death Killed Dan Hooker.” 🤣🤣🤣

  • @yoorenzo4562
    @yoorenzo4562 Před 2 lety

    I literally thought my PlayStation controller died when I seen the notification at 1:35-1:40.😂😂😂

  • @drewgamezzz8482
    @drewgamezzz8482 Před 2 lety +7

    And the Charles Olivera story is the most impressive story in the UFC today honestly, and you just can’t sit here and say that man isn’t the best in the world now imo. And I feel he’s on such a roll and also such a monster on the ground and also has great striking, I do believe a fight with him and Khabib would be a lot closer than most would think, and also I really do believe that he could beat Khabib, but that’s just one well sadly never get to see so.
    But love or hate him, n9 one can sit there and say he isn’t the best 155 in the UFC and that he doesn’t deserve the belt, cause I couldn’t think of someone who deserves it more.
    Also don’t even get me started on that “missing weight” bs. I remember seeing in twitter a couple fighters saying they were told that the scales were a half pound off, and there is a scale out in the back that they step on before going out to do the official weigh ins, and you can’t make me believe he wasn’t on weight before going out there and then the scale was off and he missed cause of the Bs scales and now he has to get his belt back that he never really lost imo.
    But anyway, all that matters is he won and he’s still the one in control of his career and still the person who is about to contend for the fight again.

    • @andrehughes7303
      @andrehughes7303 Před 2 lety +1

      No doubt man well said . Can’t wait for his next war ! 🇧🇷⚔️

    • @drewgamezzz8482
      @drewgamezzz8482 Před 2 lety

      @@andrehughes7303 same here, I wasn’t a huge fan of his for a while, but man he has gained all of my respect in his last 4 or 5 fights, and I dk anyone on the roster that o would bet on against him tbh. I mean he’s already beat all of the best ones the division has to offer other than Islam, and I think he can take him too tbh.

  • @alliancewhitemusic9682
    @alliancewhitemusic9682 Před 2 lety +3

    Amazing content as always . Making mma more popular

  • @TA-hf6si
    @TA-hf6si Před 2 lety +3

    Some of these were a bit of a stretch :p Great vid tho

  • @FightNightFellow
    @FightNightFellow Před 2 lety +2

    I can BARELY be considered a "casual" fan by most fans, but nearly every single video these people release, I can call out some things that are just blatantly wrong

  • @yourwifewasinmedms5137
    @yourwifewasinmedms5137 Před 2 lety +13

    Lol imagine thinking the best strategy against a counter striker is pressure. Of course Anderson Silvia an elite counter striker is going to capitalize on forest Griffin charging forward with punches

    • @ChainsGone2012
      @ChainsGone2012 Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly... Like no one saw the Chris Leaben fight as his first UFC fight. The only thing that made any Silva fight "boring" was fighters who wouldn't engage. Personally I think it's dumb... he's a counter striker, what do you expect. Plus Maia makes most fights look bad if he's not getting the finish b/c no one wants to engage on the ground and he has zero standup.

    • @pantherhd1
      @pantherhd1 Před 2 lety

      I fought MMA and boxing left sport unbeaten with my last fight finsh by 1st round 30 second knock out.And everything works on different fighters.Forest griffin is not best striker NOW pressure a counter striker work don’t tell me bout Chris Leben or anybody.Simply because pressure work at right time that’s What Chris Weidman done in there fights.And also pressure Cheal sonnen pressure In to land takedowns

    • @yourwifewasinmedms5137
      @yourwifewasinmedms5137 Před 2 lety +1

      @@pantherhd1 mean you’re talking about a totally different type of pressure now…pressure wrestling is completely different than what forest griffin does… come on dude. In the realm of stand up if you pressure and elite counter striker with zero threat of take down and on top of that you your self are just a good striker at best then you’re going to get finished.

    • @pantherhd1
      @pantherhd1 Před 2 lety

      @@yourwifewasinmedms5137 I don’t know if you fought or not.But not true the best style to go against a counter Fighter in average who holds the middle.I know I coached Fighter and I was Known and not blow myself feared has pressure fighter.I use do all style that be counter striker in begin of around them pressure them holding middle.And some best Knock Out have been on counter strikers I pressure with jab and body and combine Jab left hook.Or use the left side of my body and walking them on to Headkick off 3 to 5 or 7 hit combo

    • @pantherhd1
      @pantherhd1 Před 2 lety

      @@yourwifewasinmedms5137 I see you Play UFC games but how many UFC Fighter you put to sleep on curren roster.I’m not gonna state my identity.The Last Time I was seen a UFC Fighter he was teaching a class and he shouted my name telling people what use to do.I’m a hell Fighter trust me I’ve pressure in into group on street knock them out.I don’t want give to many tips.if they not grappler the leg kick and body punch mess counter striker up.There waiting for counters if not Anderson Silva or Chuck it’s dangerous game.Specially when the plan is not throw strike or combo that’s seen on video

  • @Hudson2000
    @Hudson2000 Před 2 lety +1

    “DualShock disconnected” Yep I was the very few that was effected by this

  • @brunoacevedo4686
    @brunoacevedo4686 Před 2 lety +4

    Got the like purely for the happy can putt line

  • @blitheringrando1410
    @blitheringrando1410 Před 2 lety +3

    Font looked like he got beat into a gang but they didn't want him to make it...

    • @fmb1013
      @fmb1013 Před 2 lety

      FIGHT BACK FIGHT BACK

  • @lowerclassbrats77
    @lowerclassbrats77 Před 2 lety +7

    Were they invalidated or were they proven to be accurate most of the time🤔

  • @aaronandcaitlinnelson5617

    You make a great case but I'm just not into WMMA. Do the ratings keep up with the men? Just curious if I'm an outlier.

  • @TheRealOTK
    @TheRealOTK Před 2 lety

    Loved the little Street Beefs reference 😂

  • @fanoffighting4283
    @fanoffighting4283 Před 2 lety

    great release!!!

  • @bransen2099
    @bransen2099 Před 2 lety +2

    Can I say, I really appreciated the Backstreet Boys callback during the GSP return

  • @MMAJesus420
    @MMAJesus420 Před 2 lety

    Quality 👏🏼

  • @Pauaw
    @Pauaw Před 2 lety

    You guys should do a top ten wildest press conferences

  • @guusama3404
    @guusama3404 Před 2 lety +12

    about the % part between wmma and actual mma(IAM KIDDING), in any case, yes the % are similar, but it comes from the same 2 or 3 fighters in wmma, while in men it comes from anyone at any point...thats why the narrative is still true, most mma fights you watch will not end on a finish, and you know from who to expect a finish, so you dont go for cofe during a cyborg fight or rose or andrade...and you never go for cofe on a male fight, because thats what made this sport huge, the truth on Dana's remark about a fight breaking out during any other sport...

    • @aaronbethel03
      @aaronbethel03 Před 2 lety +1

      Even if the finish rate is the same there not there technically and aren't willing to scrap so most of there fights are boring e.g Rose vs esparza

    • @Skullet
      @Skullet Před 2 lety

      ​@@aaronbethel03 Rose vs Esparza is one fight, there are countless similarly boring fights between men who were technically less skilled than a lot of their female counterparts.

    • @mariuszpudzianowski8400
      @mariuszpudzianowski8400 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Skullet but those guys were very rarely fighting for belts!

  • @Sleepingfishie
    @Sleepingfishie Před 2 lety +3

    Do top 10 MMA countries. Based on fighter’s, history, etc.

  • @joeygelling9199
    @joeygelling9199 Před 2 lety

    Lol Tommy! Dude that “uh oh Happy learned how to putt” line was fucking great. Extra likes for you bro. 😂😂😂

  • @jaykemper
    @jaykemper Před 2 lety +1

    I watched that first Sonnen-Silva fight live in a packed sports bar. It was absolutely insane.

  • @dudeduderson8046
    @dudeduderson8046 Před 2 lety +2

    I disagree that using the absolute best of the best women's fights as an example that ALL the women's fights are worth while. When its good, its good, but when its bad, its REALLY BAD. Saying its "roughly the same" as their male counterparts is also just a cope because they are not, the numbers mater.

  • @rat4992
    @rat4992 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Terrifying in a Lovecraftian way? What are you talking about there is nothing Lovecraftian about being talented and heavy handed

  • @lowerclassbrats77
    @lowerclassbrats77 Před 2 lety +27

    To be fair the UFC usually (not always) lets fighters go when they're on the down turn so losing in another org isn't wholly unexpected.

    • @1337menno
      @1337menno Před 2 lety +3

      It happend the other way around. When the WEC got bought and joined the UFC. The WEC guys showed all the UFC fanboys.

    • @ChainsGone2012
      @ChainsGone2012 Před 2 lety +1

      @@1337menno... Exactly, same with Strikeforce. They came in a wrecked their divisions in the UFC.

    • @dubstepXpower
      @dubstepXpower Před 2 lety +1

      @@ChainsGone2012 exactly this wierd narrative that UFC fighters are better just because is false. UFC is more American and brazil focussed.

    • @ChainsGone2012
      @ChainsGone2012 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dubstepXpower the UFC is the best league and probably has the highest concentration of great fighters, but that doesn't mean it has the BEST fighters always. N

  • @matthewjswider
    @matthewjswider Před 2 lety

    “Controller disconnected” was the best Easter egg you’ve ever had in a video.

  • @thedankswordsmantm
    @thedankswordsmantm Před 2 lety +13

    I feel like people forget Anderson had a rib injury when he fought Chael. It might have been broken but I forget. It's so hard to breathe, let alone move, let alone fight with rib injuries. And he pulled that shit out from the depths of hell for the win.
    It's always used as a feather in Chael's cap, but he failed a drug test for being juiced to the gills and got tapped by a guy with a rib injury.
    The narrative should have been how it proved Anderson isn't just finesse, but also a warrior.

    • @jamestoney6599
      @jamestoney6599 Před 2 lety

      I feel like people forget Anderson failed a drug test for a steroid that causes bone brittleness too.

    • @madgavin7568
      @madgavin7568 Před 2 lety

      Anderson was juiced to the gills as well. He's not innocent of using steroids, he simply got away with it until he eventually popped.

    • @ChainsGone2012
      @ChainsGone2012 Před 2 lety +4

      Exactly

    • @KABAR1943
      @KABAR1943 Před 2 lety +2

      Anderson also juiced my guy

    • @judestinks
      @judestinks Před 2 lety +5

      True, but also Anderson was juiced up too

  • @brettwright6504
    @brettwright6504 Před rokem +3

    To be fair Francis was nothing but a hard Punch up until that second stipe fight

  • @shaggyfights494
    @shaggyfights494 Před 2 lety

    That STREETBEEFS clip was of lord choppa😂 I was there for that lol

  • @Dionysius21
    @Dionysius21 Před 2 lety +29

    Ngannou wasn’t a false narrative , at first he was all power no skill but the more fights he had the more his skills grew

    • @ryanspencer2412
      @ryanspencer2412 Před 2 lety

      No, he had skill. He just had to improve it and have the opportunity to show it

    • @trevorrovert3103
      @trevorrovert3103 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ryanspencer2412 You can say that about literally anyone or anything. As far as we know, the narrative was 100% true before he started adding to his skillset.

  • @budddwyer1269
    @budddwyer1269 Před 9 měsíci +2

    You know wmma is pathetic when joanna vs weili is the only fight that ever gets brought up

  • @KeefeL
    @KeefeL Před 2 lety +22

    The Ngannou narrative was absolutely true until it wasn't.
    I love technical fights - that's what I find entertaining as a fight fan.
    But you can't deny that knocking Rozenstruik out with windmill arms in such a short amount of time, was not fucking hilarious at the moment. Particularly with the knowledge that Bigi Boi is an extremely technical striker.
    Now though, Ngannou is unstoppable with his much more refined fight game, that has good wrestling defence AND offense

    • @winsalot84
      @winsalot84 Před 2 lety

      You don't think there is a reason he did that to bigi boy though? He knew he could. It's situational. Ever since the first Stipe fight he has been situational. To his detriment against Derrick Lewis.

    • @KeefeL
      @KeefeL Před 2 lety

      @@winsalot84 isn't that the whole point of the original comment? He has improved greatly in MMA. At the time of the Rozenstruik fight, it's not that "he knew he could". He can still put anyone down with a flurry.
      The hilarity in this was that he didn't know how to win a fight any other way. Now he's one hell of a champion

    • @jamesf8507
      @jamesf8507 Před 2 lety +1

      by "technical" do you mean being huge and laying on Cyril Gane, doing nothing while getting damaged and having a sub attempted on him?

    • @KeefeL
      @KeefeL Před 2 lety +1

      @@jamesf8507 I suppose wrestling is laying on the ground. Maybe, stick to kickboxing

  • @grantg610
    @grantg610 Před 2 lety

    The beginning of #2 was gold!!!

  • @americandissident9062
    @americandissident9062 Před rokem +2

    “Women are finishing at roughly the same rate as their male counterparts…” No they aren’t. If you’re going to start using stats, then it’s not “rough” stats. You don’t use “roughly” in statistics. They’re finishing at a consistently lower rate than their male counterparts in all divisions where they have male counterparts. If it was “roughly” the same, then their would be A year where A female weight division had a higher finish rate than their male counterpart division, but there are none and have been none so far. Stats is a realm where we can take feeling and opinion out of it. Women simply do not finish their opponents as often as the males of the same weight.

  • @user-zd9rt8cs4g
    @user-zd9rt8cs4g Před 2 lety +1

    I like how you mentioned O malley biggest success being famous within tiktok (DE)generation

  • @GARBO96
    @GARBO96 Před 2 lety +2

    "They make up 10% of the roster they get 10% of the bonuses" yeah sounds about right to me what did you expect

    • @Malygosblues
      @Malygosblues Před 2 lety +1

      Ikr, he really dropped that stat as if it meant something. Let's also remember that fight bonuses can be awarded arbitrarily, so it's easier to fudge than a fight metric.

  • @ADunc10
    @ADunc10 Před 2 lety +2

    Chael was a master at trolling fans and fighters. Pure entertainment.

  • @stopabledu
    @stopabledu Před 2 lety +3

    ironically the women division just had one of the worst main card fights in history lol

    • @jaydaniel2145
      @jaydaniel2145 Před rokem

      Only 2 people liked your comment so you had to try and make fun of people more popular than yourself 😂. Trolls are always the same on CZcams 👍🏽😂.

  • @juliantoocold
    @juliantoocold Před 2 lety +1

    "uhhh ohhh Happy has learned to putt" just a fucking sick reference

  • @captainobvious2538
    @captainobvious2538 Před 2 lety

    I just was watching this on my PS4 and I had to come back on my phone to comment on how tripped out I was when the dualshock 4 disconnected thing came up 🤣

  • @mcflappers3488
    @mcflappers3488 Před 2 lety +2

    Usman is still boring the only time he even has a semi entertaining fight it’s bc the opponent brings it

  • @andrewsexton5051
    @andrewsexton5051 Před 2 lety +2

    I don’t know Tommy. The title says dramatically proven wrong but it seems most of your examples are the exception rather than the rule

  • @davidallen9580
    @davidallen9580 Před 10 měsíci

    Happy knows how learned to putt 😂 I love this channel

  • @patmurphy8622
    @patmurphy8622 Před 2 lety

    “First round murder town” .. writing that one down 😂

  • @yoshiatsamo
    @yoshiatsamo Před 2 lety +1

    Thought my ps4 controller disconnected 😂

  • @Tony-gy1iy
    @Tony-gy1iy Před 2 lety +2

    talm bout naradive B? Dicey dicey

  • @ubong1293
    @ubong1293 Před 2 lety +7

    lol most of these narratives are definitely still true

  • @jurgenpergega7451
    @jurgenpergega7451 Před 2 lety

    Congrats on the new office. 👍

  • @drewgamezzz8482
    @drewgamezzz8482 Před 2 lety +4

    @14:00 well technically his weakness was everybody’s favorite uncle, Chael Sonnen and Uncle Chael pounding on him for literally 24:30 seconds lol. And yeah he technically won with the choke, but I mean Chael laid out the blueprint to beat Anderson really, just for some reason no one other than Chael did what he did and just kept taking him down, dominating him on the ground refusing to let him up and really refusing to let him breathe or catch a full breath without Chael raining down blow after blow after blow. I feel any of the ones who lost to Anderson after that were kinda not that smart for just going out there and implementing a similar game plan against him, except not getting too comfy in the last minutes and letting him get that choke on them.
    Anyway, that was still my favorite Anderson Silva fight up until the part where he won, that and the Michael Bisping fight lmao.
    Anyway, Chanel laid out the perfect example of what to do to Anderson and it baffled me that people would get I’m there and still just refuse to take advantage of that gameplan and Just continue to try and strike with one of, if not the absolute best striker to ever exist in the UFC ever.

    • @skindred1888
      @skindred1888 Před rokem +1

      I dunno, I'd say that bisping done a better job of showing Anderson's weaknesses. That guy must've feinted a thousand times in the fight.

    • @drewgamezzz8482
      @drewgamezzz8482 Před rokem

      @@skindred1888 idk, I mean, Bisoing did a great job against him, but most would argue Anderson won that fight in any other country, while we can all agree the fordt Silva v sonnen fight, if not for that hail Mary trianlge, sonnen won without a doubt.

  • @JO-rx7go
    @JO-rx7go Před 2 lety

    Hands outstretched.......still waiting for that cold one

  • @stan9918
    @stan9918 Před 2 lety +3

    man my heart breaks for uncle cheal

  • @nathanchristman6660
    @nathanchristman6660 Před 2 lety +1

    love that happy gilmore reference

  • @Ricardo_Muna_Singh_716
    @Ricardo_Muna_Singh_716 Před rokem +1

    "Sometimes the numbers do lie" ???? - Go try telling that to Big Poppa Pump

  • @Nossirrah18
    @Nossirrah18 Před 2 lety

    Okay but I want that video about fighters dancing that’d be spectacular

  • @RustiekeRakker
    @RustiekeRakker Před rokem

    Face turned to ground beef lmao hahahaha

  • @MOSTBOX
    @MOSTBOX Před 2 lety

    Please create a video explaining MMA scoring

  • @abrahanchahin4921
    @abrahanchahin4921 Před 2 lety +1

    1:43 bro charge your controller

  • @runryerun8789
    @runryerun8789 Před 2 lety +18

    Few really care about 125 especially after Figuiredo/Moreno/Kara-France. So there is a lot of truth to that

    • @Malygosblues
      @Malygosblues Před 2 lety +2

      That's not entirely true, there's also...
      ...um... the fleeting memory of Henry Cejudo and Mighty Mouse?

    • @hunterwolf6898
      @hunterwolf6898 Před rokem

      What

    • @NWAEAZY
      @NWAEAZY Před rokem +2

      Royval is entertaining as fuck, Pantoja has a lot of ko power, Manel Kape and Mokaev are rising stars, and there’s other’s examples.

  • @kermitthefragg
    @kermitthefragg Před 8 měsíci

    Charlie Olives might be the best throw away comment ever made at press conference, it's become such a deeplyl engrained part of mma lore lmao

  • @malcolmcampbell8787
    @malcolmcampbell8787 Před rokem

    Love the venom shirt

  • @westendlolo3313
    @westendlolo3313 Před 2 lety

    I remember being a young child and new to mma seeing Anderson drop Forrest in the way he did mesmerized me lol

  • @bertrach
    @bertrach Před rokem

    10:48 The phrase is "Be all, end all"... you can't be all if you've already ended all.

  • @Stephen92994
    @Stephen92994 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I have to disagree. Women’s sports in general doesn’t have the same pop men’s sports have. Not saying they aren’t talented, but it’s about like watching the WNBA. Julianna Peña vs Amanda Nunes 2 is hilarious the way Peña is running after her. Sure you can name off a couple good fights but more times than not they’re for sure on the slow slide.

  • @Mitchy_Slicks
    @Mitchy_Slicks Před 2 lety +17

    Stipe would be considered Cleveland's bravest. "Finest" is used in reference to police. You now owe me a TTH video.