Chicago Heat: Mark Prior and Kerry Wood’s Season of Dominance
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
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I've always wanted to cover the career of Mark Prior, but his story would not be complete without Kerry Wood. In 2003, both of these players were among the most feared pitchers in MLB. They were dubbed by Sports Illustrated as "Chicago Heat". What happened following 2003? That's what we're here to find out. I hope you guys enjoy the video!
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Kerry Wood was so much fun to watch. Wish he was able to stay healthy
When I was younger I'd be sure to mark the days when Wood was pitching so I could watch him. When he was on he was the most exciting pitcher in the game. He made great batters look absolutely stupid.
agreed. 2003 was fun...he really came to life that year. It was such a blast!
Mark Prior could've genuinely been a hall of famer if his career wasn't cut short by injury.
kerry wood too
in my opinion, he could have been one of the best pitchers in the history of baseball, right there with Pedro and Maddux as best right handed pitchers of all time
Really? He had one good season and it was very good but that is no way an outlier to say he would have made the hall.
@@LudaChez he was a top prospect
@@papas_ash so? Know how many top prospects don't even make it to the big leagues? Prior would have had a great career I'm sure but he was not a sure thing for the hall
The 2003 Cubs will always have a special place in my heart
it will also too! especially that foul ball catch kid!!!
Fun fact when my parents lived on the north side they went to a double header with wood and prior and they made a sign that said throwing fire with wood and prior and they got on Tv the cubs lost both games but pretty cool
Maybe a video on Todd Frazier and his decline with age would be interesting
my first cubs game ever was a 2003 prior start at wrigley against the reds. he was def my first favorite player.
The best thing I can take out of my first game was a Darwin Barney moonshot😂
2003 NLCS almost broke me as person lbvs. Very fun season but thankfully 2016 happened💙❤
Yeah, game 6 (and game 7) is the most painful sporting even I've ever watched. I saw the Bears lose the Super Bowl as well as lose to the Packers in the NCF Championship game, but even those games weren't as painful as game 6 of the NLCS.
When I rewatch game 6 I still think Prior is gonna cruise to a CG
I turned 11 in summer of 2000 and it was my first season of really watching baseball. The early 00s were fucking awesome even with the juice. I went to games that had like 5 HoF players in them at given times and saw Kerry Wood pitch at least 3 different times in Chi and Stl. Nuts to look back on how lucky I was!
Kerry signed a Jersey for me when I was a Kid. He always went to sign autographs and was known for being an all round good dude
In hindsight it was Mark Prior's scap loading that ended his career. His perfect mechanics allowed him to load his scaps in such a way that he gained more velocity but it put tons more stress on his body. Loved watching him pitch.
His mechanics were not perfect. His career ended because of the way he threw the ball
Read it as if there are quotation marks around perfect
@@blankname6629 Bingo. His career ended because of his off kilter mechanics. Nothing to do with Dusty. He threw over 200 innings once in his career smh.
Wood was the Stephen Strasburg of his era. Great pitcher just decimated by injury
We’ve gotta get this man more subscribers. The videos are always awesome.
This was my favorite year ever watching baseball. I love the 2003 Cubs!
Prior in the second half of '03 was so dominant that I felt completely secure in the notion that the Cubs would win every game when he was on the mound. The only Cubs player to match that kind of dominance was Arrieta in '15. Wood was really coming into his own in '03 as well, and Zambrano was also turning into an ace. If Wood and Prior had stayed healthy the Cubs would have been the next '90's Braves. It's just tragic what happened to those two. As much as I love the 2016 team, I really really really loved that '03 team. Kerry Wood might be my favorite Cub ever honestly.
Btw, I have never blamed Baker for their issues. Throughout most of baseball history starting pitchers have pitched an insane number of innings and plenty of those players stayed healthy. Also, a managers job is to try and win games and Prior and Wood were the best bet for that team to win games. They never would have won the division if Baker didn't ride his two horses.
I remember Prior colliding with a second baseman, Marcus Giles coming forward to field aground ball. Mark did a flip and landed on his right shoulder and was out for an extended time. I think that was the beginning of the end as the next spring training he was injured and things were never the same.
Thanks a lot Dusty baker
Damn Dusty Baker
these two should have been having hitters quake in fear for years to come
I'm glad Prior got his world series ring as LA's pitching coach
because god damn did he earn it
Thanks for the nostalgia! I went to the double header where the Cubs clinched the division in '03, and it was an unforgettable experience. Everyone was watching the scoreboard near the start of game 2 to see if the Astros lost, and the crowd would erupt seemingly at random whenever a goose egg was put up. Good times.
So grateful I got to watch these years and then see them win the WS in my lifetime.
Great video. I remember watching this all go down. Im old enough to see careers start and end. Hell, players I watched are now getting into the HOF lol. As a Giants fan I feel that Jason Schmidt doesn’t get enough love.
I was late this time but, I like to wait for greatness, and it was worth the wait!
The documentary on Kerry’s 20 strikeout game is so good I’ve watched it a bunch of times fantastic way to spend a hour or ao
GOD TIER video, concise and sharp
You should do one on Jason Bay...that guy crashed and burned in NY after being very solid.
as a Mets fan, it was a great signing when the Mets signed him, it seemed perfect. But damn, he became the worst everyday player in all of baseball on his time with the Mets (in terms of contract and production on field). It was either a strikeout or a groundout. If Bay could have been productive, I still believe Mets could have made playoffs in 2010 and 2011.
"Not infront of my eyes, I was a toddler..." I felt old real quick haha
I’m a Cubs fan for life, but, the Cubs only 2 notable players from the early 2000’s are Sammy Sosa and Kerry Wood, but I wouldn’t know I’m too young to remember the early 2000s Cubs
Loving your content dude, keep rockin the interesting topics and appreciation for data
"imagine not making the playoffs in nearly four decades"
The Mariners: ಥ‿ಥ
2001, 200, 1997, 1995.... The Mariners have been to the playoffs plenty.
This was a great vid! People forget how starting pitchers can and historically often were overused.
I forgot Astro’s were in NL. Lol
You mean bang bang cheaters
That Cubs lineup was so good at the time, I don’t know how they didn’t even make the World Series then
??? Everyone knows
Two words: Steve Bartman.
Dusty Baker...
I meant the lineup on paper
It was the error the shortstop made in game 6 cuz then the marlins took the lead
You should do your next video on the best players without a ring or something along those lines, been trying to get ppl to do a video on this for a while now hahah it’s not like there isn’t any 😅😅😅
Glad you still mentioned Clement and Zombrano
Poor guys. Had Prior and Wood won the 2003 NLCS and eventually the World Series, who knows how they would've been afterwards? But in the end, their health is what matters. Kerry Wood, Mark Prior, I am truly sorry for all the suffering - physical and emotional - that you all went through! You still remain fantastic heroes to all of us Cubs fans!
Javi Vazquez was so underrated
The Cubs also had a really good team in 2001. This was Sosa's best year as well, and in my opinion, the best Cubs team of the Sosa era. But the Cubs started playing meh till the end, and the Cardinals and Astros both got in. Tough division
That was a fun season, ending badly, but there are some really great memories. The fan base had exploded by 2003, following a 1998 that came out of nowhere. You started seeing people wearing Cubs shit everywhere.....and outside of myself, I rarely saw anyone in a Cubs hat, and I lived IN CHICAGO. Of course there were plenty of Cubs fans, but I think most were closeted, tired of hearing the “lovable losers” bit, or hearing from White Sox fans who are the consummate, chip on their shoulder little brother type. They HATE the Cubs. Literally despise the Cubs and their fans. I’m a Cubs fan, but a baseball fan too. I never rooted against the Sox, and was happy for them when they won the WS. Just really different fam bases and perspectives.
I didn’t watch the last game of the 03’ NLCS. I had an anatomy final the following day, so I tivo’d it, and headed to the cadaver lab to study. I just felt like, “Do well on your test, and then enjoy the World Series......THOSE are the games you want to see live anyways.” Coming off of Bartman and Alex Gonzalez, seemed like sound logic.
We fielded some pretty good teams in the years to come. The Cubs really started spending money, realizing that a packed house at every game, and merchandise sales from tons of fans.....was actually profitable. We could never perform come playoff time though.
What can I say? I wouldn’t have it all any other way, because the 2016 World Series was just fucking bonkers. A surreal moment, and it was perfect. OF COURSE it went to extra innings in game 7. I, along with millions of other fans, were practically shitting our pants the entire game.
I get in to fights with Cubs fan who hate on Theo and what the team is now. I say who gives a flying fuck, they won a ring. It was worth scorching the earth. If they aren't good for another 10 years who cares? They ended a 108 year curse! I think that would be worth it. Anyway what do you think?
I remember in 01 when the cubs collapsed the second half as usual then 03 after the aramis Ramirez, kenny lofton trade I knew they were destined to go far. And then the heart break came smh lol
As a lifelong Cubs fan I've heard every reason or excuse as to why Wood and Prior were injured, but I will forever blame Dusty Baker. You trot a pitcher out and have him throw 120+ pitches every time he's out there, something bad is gonna happen eventually. Guys like Wood and Prior are investments and you have to protect your investments
I thought I was the only one who thought Baker didn’t know how to handle a pitching staff. I think the injuries probably had more to do with bad mechanics as anything.
@@darkstar92772 taking the time to look back at the 2003 team as a whole, I think I've looked at them through rose colored glasses because they really weren't a good team. They won only 88 games and had they beat the Marlins that fateful October night, I don't think they would have beaten the Yankees that year. They had great starting pitching, even if Dusty ran them into the ground (4 starting pitchers went over 200 innings each). The bullpen had Joe Borowski (33 SV in 39 chances), Kyle Farnsworth (10.13 playoff ERA that year), an aging but still very consistent Mike Remlinger, a washed up Antonio Alfonseca and6 his 6 finger fastball, and not much else. The offense finally got a lead off hitter when they fleeced the Pirates for Kenny Lofton and A Ram at the trade deadline. Sosa's numbers were dropping. Moises Alou hit better at any other park away from Wrigley. Only 3 players went over 20 HRs for the Cubs. They had some big names, but they just weren't really that good.
As a huge fan of Mark Prior, who happens to not like the Cubs at all. I'm still pissed at Dusty for ruining Mark Priors career
Oddly enough the best pitching performance of that entire NLCS was Game 5. The Marlins, down 3-1 gave the ball to their ace-in-training, Josh Beckett and he absolutely dominated the Cubs throwing a two hit shutout just to force the infamous Game 6.
They may have been overworked, but I know at least Prior was never going to make it. Despite being touted as having “perfect mechanics” his throwing mechanics were actually severely flawed. He was always going to end up putting a ton of strain on his elbow, whether he was throwing 80 pitches a start or 110.
Another amazing feat is that in 2021 averaging a 94.3 mph fastball would only rank you 56th in all of baseball in average starter velocity. That was ranked 1 in this video.
Love your videos dude! Thank you!
Gosh my elbow hurts now after watching this.
Great video!
This was great content
10:00 says ER instead of hits
Edit: When it says 8 ER
I miss the days where pitchers would throw 120 in a game. I hate how starters go like 5 innings and 80 pitches.
Can understand it in the regular season when it's a grind, but in the playoffs they need to let them go the distance. Every game counts
@@shoukatsukai Oh I totally understand it but its just annoying in my opinion.
I used to enjoy watching Doc Halladay pitch complete games while throwing 110 pitches. Starters need to go longer in games.
Why is Wood's 20 K game "infamous" ? Bill James regards it as the most perfect pitching performance ever, I'd say that's pretty famous.
Of course Prior never told his manage he wanted to come out. THAT IS THE MANAGER'S JOB.
In the '90s and early 2000s there were several managers - who had played in the '70s, when guys like Seaver, Ryan, Carlton, and the great Wilbur Wood were tossing 300+ innings. When they became managers, they forgot that Seaver and Ryan were freaks of nature, Carlton had the most ridiculous conditioning routine ever (and was a freak of nature), and Wood (as well as the Niekro brothers) was a knuckleballer.
They also critically forgot that back in the day the last 1/3 of the lineup was three gimmes. You might face Doug Flynn, Bud Harrelson, and Felix Millan - PLUS THE PITCHER, AND HIS NAME AIN'T OHTANI - on the same night. Pitchers in Baker's (and Felipe Alou's) day could coast half the time. By the turn of the century you had to bear down against everybody except the pitcher - and if he was Carlos Zambrano or Dontrelle Willis, even he was a threat.
So you had guys throwing 130+ pitches, every one harder than the last, in their early 20s. And that gives us the sad ends to careers like Mark Prior, Kerry Wood... and another name from the 2003 top K list, Jason Schmidt.
People love blaming dusty baker and it’s bullshit there wasn’t a emphasis on pitch counts back in 03 any other manager would have done the same thing yeah it’s sad that prior basically became Steve Avery in the fact that his arm practically fell off
Do a video on Jason Schmidt
I was at Mark Prior's first start.
What is "infamous" about Wood's 20 K game?
I remember that 2003 season it would’ve of been perfect if the Cubs went to WS & won it .
8:00
Me: Sees Oliver Perez took the loss
How long has that man been in the big leagues and how in the hell is he staying this long?!
Still can't get over how stacked the 2003 braves were. Lineup was so good that vinny castilla was the worst hitter.
Why does it say 8 ER and 2 ER at 10:02
8 hits 2 Earned Runs.
what surprised me about the 2003 NLCS collapse was how Prior and Wood just couldnt close the Marlins down. Come on
Alex Gonzalez error was the real culprit. Baker should have made a pitching change way sooner. The rally probably would not have happened
Go Cubs
Hi notis on
Narrated by Tony Hinchcliffe?
5:11 shows Sammy sosa in 1990 lol
2004 both pitchers were above average, and in 2005 prior was above average according to era+
I blame Dust Baker entirely on the Nlcs demise for his over use and eventual injuries of Kerry and Mark GUy was too stubborn and old schooled I think to realize hey maybe they're tired.
A total shame what happened to these 2 talented pitchers arms
i heard they were very over used cause thats all they had
What is sad is cubs management ruined those 2 pitches
infamous doesnt mean what u think it means
10:01 what was the 8 ER supposed to say?
Hits
How about Kerry Wood hitting 2 HRs in his rookie season!
Kerry Woods homer in game 7 was insane. I'm a Marlins fan and I thought we had it in the bag cause of momentum. Then he hit that bomb and I throught.....uh oh. Obviously it turned out it my favor but that moment was hype as fuck. Wrigley looked like it was going to collapse from the celebration
I hate Dusty Baker for ruining them. Especially Mark Prior. As a fan of prospects and not the Cubs, Prior was one of my all time favorites to watch. And Dusty blew out his arm by age 25. Can't believe that moron has continued to get GOOD jobs as MLB manager to this day
Theres only 1 mad dog
Woods arm was destroyed
He said CHicago
Holy shit I forgot how terrible the early 2000s Brewers were
they were good in 2007 and 2008
They're careers being shortened os absolutely dusty bakers fault no pitcher should ever be reaching 120 plus pitches that's absurd even for the era they pitched in
Steve Bartman was more dominant.
Why did you have to expose Cubs fans like that
Twins didn’t take Prior because they couldn’t afford him
No they really wanted Joe Mauer who was a Twin Cities native who was one of the top pure hitters to ever come put of the HS ranks.
"Best pitching duo in the league" LOL......
They couldn't gargle Johnson & Schillings balls.
For THAT season, Prior and Wood were the best duo in the game. He's not talking about all time. He's talking about the '03 season specifically.
@@williamkoscielniak820 Yeah but that's still not true. Schilling and Brandon Webb, Mulder and Hudson, Hudson and Zito, Mulder and Zito... Probably more. Wood had an OK year, but not dominant by any stretch. That 2003 team was overrated af anyway. Deserved to lose the way they did.
Yeah and then the Cubs won the World Series. Mad Cardinals boy?
Man seeing those pitch count numbers make you cringe now a days.
Thats terrible to many pitches buy young arms
Dusty baker ruined these guys careers. So much potential to be used and abused.
Mark Prior who gives a shit. What, one good season. So did Alan Benes. Where is his litany of youtube videos
Jim rigglemen ruined kerry wood
It’s all black
Dude, that's not how you say Chicago. The Chi- is not said with a hard c like in tai chi, its more of a Sha- sound as in shaw. Sha-caw-go, Ill-i-noy.
Gosh my elbow hurts now after watching this.